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Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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spog posted:

Remember when phones had standby times that were literally measured in weeks?

Whereas the latest smartphone can maybe get 2 days of light use out of it.

Yeah but i also remember a time when cellphones had a monochrome screen, a battery that got hosed up if you charged it wrong, monophonic ringtones and only enough memory to hold 25 phone numbers and 10 texts. I prefer plugging in my smartphone every two days...

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Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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I thought about getting a couple of those. Just throw one in the car and one behind the fridge or something. Just in case my wives in labor and a quantum filament disables all other communication systems or something like that.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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Ka0 posted:



I was exited when the first digital Mavica was released. It was around the time I was starting to to work so I had a bit of money for my stupid crap. I got one of these thinking the days of photomats were over for good.

:smith:

This is amazing cause i just bought a Sony NEX-F3 and while flipping through the manual i noticed a "What is a infoLITHIUM battery?" section and i thought to myself that they've just came up with another stupid marketing term. But nope, looks like they've been using this stupid marketing term a long time now.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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madlilnerd posted:

Here in the UK we do bank transfers. It's really easy if you have internet banking, or you can do it from some ATMs.

Yeah its really strange that bank transfers aren't really used in the US. Everything i need to pay on a regular basis just gets transfered automatically at the end of the month. Paying my rent in cash or with a checks? What?

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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Libluini posted:

Germany has lots of them, some are even open to the public.


What? I've lived in germany for 30 years and never seen one! Maybe i just don't visit old office building enough.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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Pilsner posted:

Old phone: Press down (button or joystick), press first letter of contact's name - or keep pressing down until reaching the contact. Press call button.
IPhone: Tap Contacts. Oops, it's showing some contact I don't want to call. Click Back button. Drag until I find the contact I want to cal, tap contact. Tap the number of his I want to actually call.


Dumbphone: press down to go into contacts, oh great I want to call someone who's name starts with an "o", press the 6 button three times, scroll through all your contacts starting with "o", select the right contact, select the number you actually want to call, press the call button

Smartphone: tap contacts, tap the letter on the right to jump to it, tap the right contact, tap the phone number

This poo poo about making the thing you don't like seem overly complicated and bad works in both directions.
People who feel superior because of the type of phone they are using, be it smart or dumb, are really annoying so can we please go back to talk about cartridges, laserdiscs and weird TVs?

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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Mr. Flunchy posted:

I know it's a pretty stupid question - but why the hell is it apparently so difficult to build a sensible, reliable train?

Well you are in the obsolete and failed technology thread. If you make a "Post awesome trains"-thread we could probably fill it up pretty quickly too. I think we already have one of those in AI though.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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Krispy Kareem posted:

Wrap around windshields lingered for quiet a while.

Early to mid-90's Saturn:



Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme:



Granted, it's possible we're both right since you were probably referring to the front windshield whereas all my examples are of the rear. And the only examples I seem to be finding are all GM cars so maybe it was just a stylistic choice on their part.

Still, it seemed they really helped with rear visibility. Now we have big honking C pillars creating blind spots.

Hey now, it's not just GM. And it's not just wraparound, it also has giant D pillars. Best of both worlds!


I still like it :colbert:

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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Radio Help posted:

For sure, we use a trackball for our ghetto POS system at work. It's perfectly suited for the small space it's in. I was referring to the ridiculous little ones that clip to the side of your keyboard/old-rear end laptop.

Speaking of joysticks,


Man, playing Falcon 4.0 and Mechwarrior 3 on this thing was the buttery jams. Sadly, I cannot think of a single game that'd utilize it nowadays.

I dusted mine of recently to play World of Warplanes. And a friend of mine is loving deadly in a chopper in Battlefield 2 with his.
I've also heard about some guys using theirs to play Kerbal Space Program, but thats just weird!

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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p-hop posted:


Also, I can't even imagine the smell when you open one of those glass-top cars on a hot summer day. You're out of work finally, go to your car to head home, open the car door and... WHOOMF 130°F of pleather/vinyl/plastic fumes.



My Car has a glas roof that pretty much spans the whole length of the car. Its not getting much hotter than a normal car.
Although to be fair, when we drove it around on corse in the summer for a couple of weeks we had the "curtain" closed all the time because of the sun roasting our heads.
It's really not a feature for hot sunny climates.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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Yesterday I tried to print a borderless document. I say tried because everytime I select "borderless" it switches to "HP high quality ultra max glossy 10$ a sheet photo paper". Because that's the only paper the printer can print borderless on obviously. What the gently caress? Its 2015, just let me print.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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Kaizoku posted:

As long as we have truck drivers we'll have nudie mags.

Playboy has always had decent non-nude content, but at this point "I read it for the articles," is more believable than anything else because who gives a poo poo about porn ('stunt' shoots with washed up stars notwithstanding, people get weird about their naked celebs). I'm just curious if this shift is a decade too late or perfectly timed. Considering the magazine landscape, anything between those two times would've been foolish.

Even truck drivers browse pornhub now that you can get mobile internet and free WiFi in a lot of places. Nudie Mags really are a dying breed

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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DrBouvenstein posted:

I wonder what the market is for a lockscreen that has two PINs/passwords.

One unlocks, the other wipes. Or maybe just deletes things like text history, photos, etc... but doesn't do a full wipe, so it's less obvious and let's you avoid a destruction of evidence charge.

Don't iphones have a function where it wipes the device when you type in your code wrong to many times? Its been a few years since I've used one.

Shai-Hulud
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Trebek posted:

I had at least a few stolen. I started just leaving my truck unlocked overnight because it was cheaper than replacing a window and a head unit. I think head units in general look like hot garbage these days.

Someone broke into my car and only stole the faceplate of the head unit. There were CDs and some still wrapped DVDs lying in the car. Nope, just the faceplate. loving prick.
I'm looking into Android Auto right now cause my car got room for a big head unit. Just having a big touch screen also gets rid of most of the terrible design head units have this day.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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Trebek posted:

poo poo just looked that up and now I kind of want an Android Auto too.

Problem is that decent headunits with a capacitive touchscreen still go for about a grand. Especially since you're gonna need some adapters and poo poo for stuff like steering wheel controls. I expect the prices to drop in the next one or two years since this is pretty much early adopter stuff.

And I'm not willing to save a hundred bucks or two and get a cheaper one without a capacitive touchscreen. If I'm gonna put a touchscreen in my car it has to be a good one!

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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Nothings keeping you from just making one round an writing in the times for all future rounds though.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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Jerry Cotton posted:

I guess you guys had cheap-rear end poo poo television sets with cheap-rear end poo poo connectors because this SCARTs falling out all over the shop oh my god it's like SCARTmageddon thing sounds completely foreign to me :smugmrgw:

Yeah seriously. I mean yeah they were impossible to plug in blind and sometimes just broke but falling out of the TV? I always felt like they were holding way to tight to the point of me being afraid that I'd damage the TV when I pulled it out.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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wayne curr posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display#Discontinued

It's funny how nobody really noticed when Plasma TVs disappeared :smith:

My 2012 Panasonic Plasma is still going strong! I was sad to see them stop making them cause picture quality is just amazing. It even got that whole smart TV thing going so I can watch my youtubes!

With late generation plasmas a lot of the issues weren't a big deal anymore. Burn in was rare and you pretty much had to force it to happen and while they still use more power than LCDs it's not like the early models that sucked your power station dry.
But LCDs were cheap, thin and bright so when you see them next to a plasma in a brightly lit store they just seemed better.

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Shai-Hulud
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atomicthumbs posted:

It is obsolete! As you may have noticed, modern cars only come in white, black, silver, and (for sports cars only) dull red.

Come to europe! Here you can buy compact cars in a lot of bright colors!
Sometimes even bigger cars get interesting colors, but only the "sport" version of course!

Shai-Hulud
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BalloonFish posted:

Pfft. It's all about sliding windows for that authentic 'difficult to open while driving, poo poo air flow and tendency to leak' experience. But you've probably never heard of them...



Really the whole original Mini is fractal levels of obsolete and failed technology. All it did was show every other manufacturer in the world the correct way to do a small front-wheel drive transverse-engined family car without all the brilliant but pointless design wankery.

Flipup windows is where its at!

Shai-Hulud
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My Lovely Horse posted:

I moved to a new office at work and noticed that the mouse on this PC was a bit slow and moved weird. Thought maybe the glide pads were dirty or there was a hair stuck on the sensor and had a quick look.

It's mechanical. I haven't seen one of those in a decade.

I encountered one of those one or two years ago while working for on of the biggest shipping companies in the world. Made me laugh cause, sure I get it dear IT department, why throw it away when it still works, but come the gently caress on.

Shai-Hulud
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Like those two horizontal glas pipes that light up and flicker and are being used in every sci-fi show from the 90s

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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Oh wow. I knew it was used on star trek, but i thought it only started with tng.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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Yeah the only time I saw 500€ notes were when Chinese tourists came into our shop because they didn't know that pretty much no one accepts them.

Shai-Hulud
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Interestingly low budget phones seem to have the FM radio activated more often than more expensive phones.
The Moto G4 Play and the Huawei P8 lite both have FM radio.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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I have worked with all kinds of printers from cheap consumer grade poo poo to hilariously expensive Direct to Garment printers and they are all garbage. Its just seems impossible to build a printer that works fast and reliable. The best printers i've used are super simple B/W laser printers. And even with those i just installed one that just would not loving work unless i install the drivers from the weird virtual CD drive it emulates the moment you plug it into the pc.
gently caress printers.

Shai-Hulud
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Keiya posted:

Why does no one make phones like that anymore. I'd rather have good battery life and nokium-nintendium alloy than a slightly faster cpu and higher resolution screen.

There are rugged phones (Samsung makes some and I think companies like CAT do) and there are phones with great battery life (The Moto Z Play for example and I think Asus or Acer or someone do some special big battery phones).
Getting both in one package is an it harder though.
Of course the newest flagship phones from Apple and Samsung are as slim and as beautiful as possible without regard to battery life or drop survivability. Those aren't the only phones on the market though.

Shai-Hulud
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FilthyImp posted:

The Deeponia series is a decent one.

Pretty sure Daedalic makes Point and Clicks because they're easier to code... though I think maybe they made a dungeon explorer based on their Swedish LotR analogue.

Eh the Deponia games are alright until you notice the racist and sexist tendencies they built in there. I mean, you sell a black woman so she can work as a monkey, you send children into a pedophiles trailer home and your love interest (which of course falls in love with you even though you character is a massive rear end in a top hat with few to none redeeming qualities) is literally named "Goal".
But its all in good fun so its ok!

Shai-Hulud
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Is there anything done with Java that is worthwhile?
I don't know anything about coding and poo poo but every time i have to use some piece of Software for work and i notice it uses Java i know its time to take a break and come back later when it sorted itself out. Is it just impossible to do decent software with Java or just really hard so no one bothers?

Shai-Hulud
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Hey also regularly dump apps that never get updated to newer API levels as far as I know. So if you use some ancient API in your app and never update it you might get the boot.

Shai-Hulud
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Every car made more than 25 years ago gets collected by someone. Even the really lovely ones. Cant wait for the Renault Twingo and VW Golf 3 market to explode!

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

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Horace posted:

Invest now! Twingos already have a cult following and they're right on that old car precipice where almost all of them vanish over the course of a couple years.

I was actually looking into getting one when i needed a cheap daily driver to get to work. Those things are cheap, roomy, and pretty reliable. They also weigh next to nothing. They never made one with a fun engine though so i skipped it and bought a MX-5 instead.

Shai-Hulud
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It weights about a ton and makes 140HP stock. Seems alright to me for a daily driver!

Shai-Hulud
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More recent Samsung phones have gotten way better with that bloat poo poo. They still throw every function they can think of into the phone but the Interface ist way more like stock Android and they toned back the garish colors. Their phones also are powerful enough by now that they can just power through some of the trademarked Samsung jank.

Shai-Hulud
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Man when i upgraded to Windows 7 i had to use some weird Vista drivers to keep using my Audigy 2 ZS because they didn't make drivers for 7. And it had to be the exact right version so i had to download it off of some shady site. I think i still have that driver folder on some old backup disc because i was afraid to lose it and never find a download again.
loving sound cards...

Shai-Hulud
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Someone once broke into my old Peugeot and only stole the removable front off of the stereo. Didn't steal the stereo itself and didn't steal the CDs that were lying on the passenger seat or the still shrink wrapped DVDs i bought for a gift that day. Still baffled by that....

Shai-Hulud
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Krispy Wafer posted:

They're not too obsolete. I have a near 50 year old Bulova that I was able to get serviced at the mall. If you can still get stuff fixed at the mall then it's not yet obsolete.

The problem is you can easily swap out regular watches to fit your mood, but it's not as easy with a smartwatch because that does more than just tell time. If you leave your smartwatch at home suddenly you're missing texts and notifications that you've gotten used to monitoring on a watch rather than a phone. Also it's not apparent how angry co-workers are making you as your heartbeat monitor start going off.

That's why i don't like a lot of smartwatches. I want them to look nice but bland so that i can switch around watchfaces whenever i feel like it and don't need to worry about them matching the golden crystal encrusted casing. Switching the watchface pretty much replaced my need to switch watches.

Shai-Hulud
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Humphreys posted:

That's a really good point. I'm struggling to find something that was a big WOW for me in more recent times. I think my first was the TV tuner in my friends dads black apple desktop, then ripping CDs. It's a stretch but maybe OS virtualisation and 4K resolution are more recent things I was excited about when I first used it.

SSDs for me. I jumped on that wagon pretty late because i tend to wait quite some time between upgrading my PC and holy poo poo does it make a difference. Everything is just so much faster its insane.

I bought a laptop with an HDD in it last year because it was cheaper to upgrade it to an SSD myself and for the two days i used it before the SSD arrived i was pretty sure i just dumped my money down a garbage hole because using it was just terrible. The moment i put in the SSD everything was fine. Felt like a modern machine worth the money.
I don't have any spinning platters anywhere in my computers now.

Shai-Hulud
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Shut up Meg posted:

The Martian was touted as being as scientifically-accurate as a movie could be, whilst still being enjoyable. You certainly felt that for a movie they really made the effort to be as technically realistic as they could.

Except the part where the guy runs his calculations on a supercomputer cluster by: A) sitting on the floor of a datacentre with a laptop plugged into the racking and B) the big 'CALCULATIONS CORRECT' that popped up in the middle of the screen.

Well how would you know that his calculations were correct otherwise?

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Shai-Hulud
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You guys know that the Nokia 3310 and Nokia 105 exist right? If you are desperate for a phone that can only do calls and texting and lasts forever they are right there and dirt cheap.
There are also several weird startup companies that sell phones that only do rudimentary stuff while costing hundreds of dollars.

You can also just use any old smartphone. My wife uses an old first gen Moto G as a work phone where she only needs to receive calls and without Wifi or mobile data on it lasts about two weeks on standby.

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