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Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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Those things are pretty popular in a lot of countries, since all you need to do is jam the heater head onto the shower and you have instant hot water at the tap. Most of the pictures of them on the internet look pretty scary, but it is possible to safely install them and not burn your house down or electrocute yourself in the shower.

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Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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I'm pretty sure D2x added normal tcp/ip network modes, so you don't have to worry about much besides finding buddies to play with.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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They're not super popular though because lovely old wiring and lovely new wiring isn't stable enough to actually route well. It doesn't help that if something big kicks on and causes a quick dip or surge it'll knock your internet out until it stabilizes again.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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I doubt it helped much that CF cards already existed and were about the same size without the flimsyness that comes with disks.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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It's actually still in the 32-bit versions, so I can use edit on my fancy tablet.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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In the mid 80's/early 90's? Most likely.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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Phanatic posted:

Hey, remember UMD? And Memory Stick (okay, that's still around, for the time being)?

Sony has thankfully been quietly shoving Memory stick off the stage for a while now, most of their stuff has a combi-port of SD and MSpro duo.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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DrBouvenstein posted:

That doesn't include the Vita, does it? I've been thinking about getting one (especially since my PS+ subscription is getting me several free Vita games I can't play,) but I hate that I'd have to buy a memory stick that's two to three times the cost of an SD/microSD card.

The Vita memory card is special and exists entirely because PSP piracy was too easy.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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Serperoth posted:

I've used Win7 laptops with all that junk in so it's definitely still a thing. Don't know if the driver issue is still there, but it does sound super scummy, thanks for letting me know (a friend is looking to get a laptop).

Most laptops have unbranded drivers now, so you can get away from the junk easier. Nvidia, Realtek, and Intel all offer drivers for most laptops at their websites.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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My tablet did something like the ISO idea, except in a single zip folder. They had the crappy installer, but the actual drivers were unbranded and there wasn't any junk as part of it.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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Most early CD games didn't have copy protection because the CD was enough. Unlike floppies, they were too large to share via bbs, and no one had a CD burner when they first came out.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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KozmoNaut posted:

I actually thought to myself "Why doesn't mullet dude just order those European releases straight from Europe over the... Oh right, 1985 :doh:".


Are you sure? Because just about everyone I know listens at their computers or MP3 players. Whenever I go visit friends and family, all of the CDs that used to be proudly displayed are gone, and no CD player-equipped stereos in sight. Instead they stream everything, either directly from a NAS or from a streaming provider. We've got three major providers here, and they all offer sizeable libraries and decent sound quality. Why have a giant CD collection taking up space, when you can store it all on a hard disk and/or stream it?

Cars, since using your phone will destroy the battery life, and actual radio sucks.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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I open Pandora when I just want to listen to music in the background and it does a fantastic job of doing that.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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I have heard that Hauppauge is worse than that still, actually physically requiring the CD to install the base drivers, and all the updaters check to see if the disk is in the drive before they will run.

I don't really understand the point, since the software generally works with one card, and it's not like you can pirate the physical device.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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The game came out in 2000, there was a major thing that happened just a year ago and potentially had ties to video games.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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I actually had a digital compatible radio, and there was only one station that was even slightly listenable in digital mode. Even though there were a few stations broadcasting, the signal just degraded so heavily because of trees and buildings. Satellite radio has it's issues because most people don't want to pay for radio when they can listen to FM or their phone for free.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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You can download Android stuff that actually does that, though my phone at least isn't bright enough to actually reflect visibly.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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Don't a lot of synthesizers and music equipment only export to floppies still?

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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To be fair, there's a lot of push back against payday loans in the US at least, and they're straight up illegal in 14 states. They'll probably be gone like 900 numbers in a few years.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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You can use minidv or vhs/c without issue, so long as you have a capture card or a firewire card.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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MiniDV is easier to find and higher quality, but if you want cheap home movie feel you'll want VHS.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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If you don't care about quality/are a parent it's been about $8 for a roll of film, development, and printing at walmart/walgreens/whatever since probably 1996.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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Last Chance posted:

Do people still use ram disks?

Yes, but with SSD's being way cheaper than ram there's no loving reason to do it.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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twistedmentat posted:

Remember when game companies didn't treat their customers like criminals?

What, you don't remember the uncopiable copy protection matrixes and the disks with non-standard sector layouts that make it impossible to make any backup or install your program to the hard disk?

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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Jerry Cotton posted:

Ah but that in no way hindered making back-up copies or multiple installs.

And most modern DRM doesn't either. There was only a small period in the late 2000's that DRM was truly garbage.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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Minecraft kinda poisons the voxel discussion well, since it uses voxels internally to store the world data, but everything's made of regular polygons. Dwarf Fortress is another game that uses voxels for storage, but it's rendered with just text graphics. A lot of newer games are using actual voxel rendering for terrain maps and deformable items however. Cryengine uses Voxels for terrain by default, for instance.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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It should have a PCMCIA slot, just jam a network adapter in there and enjoy some Win95 viruses.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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AFewBricksShy posted:

I still use that too. (34).

I wonder if anyone born after 2005 is going to wonder why the universal symbol for rolling down your window is moving your hand in a circle. Do they even make cars without power windows anymore?

Why's the save button in my computer this blue lego block?

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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Jonathan Yeah! posted:

Couldn't you just use the ISA/ serial ports over USB? I imagine that would be way cheaper than baking 20 year old tech into a swish new motherboard.

A lot of the ISA/Parallel via USB stuff doesn't actually work for most of what places want. You have to get the company to recompile their original 1985 drivers to actually read properly through USB, and that's hard when the company that made your ISA card has been dead since 1994. Most places that uses those are factories and stuff where it would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to actually upgrade to something modern, so when the computer breaks they get a new motherboard and throw a patched version of DOS or Windows 3.1 on and keep using their ancient stuff.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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The good news is that if you have about an hour, you can flash the firmware to a CF card and slot that in with zero modification since they shipped with either Microdrives or CF cards.

Microdrives totally go here I guess.



They're literally tiny hard drives that used an expanded CF bus for data and power transfer. They've been completely out performed in stability, speed, power draw, and capacity by the regular flash memory CF cards these days.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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atomicthumbs posted:

The CF interface is IDE :ssh:

Yes, but the Microdrives are the about the only things that used the extra Type-II stuff for extra power.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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I mean, it's the same idea as RJ11 and such, since it's just the same 4 wires except they're a bit more obviously split up.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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I actually have a collection of CED movies and a player and it is a giant pile of poo poo.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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I still love the fact that Microsoft modernized it in Windows 8 to the frowny face of doom.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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I never had Sheep.exe, but I did have Neko.exe which was a cat themed one. Apparently someone found the source and ported it to 32/64 bit Windows back in 2010, but good luck finding it.

edit: I lied, the 64 bit version is still hosted.

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Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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Lemniscate Blue posted:

Compare that to Mechwarrior 2, which was its own soundtrack CD and all the game data was just Track 1.

Nope, that's just a Redbook Audio game disk. A lot of early CD PC and console games worked by encoding the data as track 1, and this is why many of them warn you to not play it on a normal CD player.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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Vanagoon posted:

Or, you know, a disc.

Having a local copy of the operating system, the thing that keeps the computer from being an expensive thing with a lot of blinky lights, is important.

Windows and OSX both let you make a disk or USB backup to restore a broken install of either OS.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

Probably a lot of it was trying to copy the Macintosh lines at the time, since they had the power button in a similar spot on the keyboard instead of on the machine.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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Tubesock Holocaust posted:

Before there was a card swipe machine at every register, there was this:



I haven't seen one of these in years.

My therapy office still uses this thing, it's great making a payment via card and then having the secretary lose the carbon paper behind her computer.

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Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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The Gamecube IS original hardware, unless you're playing one of three things that don't work on the Wii because of missing expansion ports.

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