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Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Doc M posted:

All I really know about Opel is that the Manta has a legendary reputation in Germany as the vehicle of choice for a certain type of teenager (here in Finland, the rough equivalent would be an old Toyota Corolla). A lovely old Manta also participates in the Nürburgring 24-hour race every year, complete with a fox tail hanging off the back.

edit: I am in no way an Opel Manta scholar so my information may be slightly inaccurate

There was also a whole genre of jokes about Manta drivers. My favorite:

Slow day at the gas station. A young guy comes in and tells the attendant, "ey*, I locked myself out of my Manta, do you have a piece of wire so I can try to get it open?" Being a friendly guy, the attendant gives him some wire and the young guy is off.

A quarter hour later the attendant notices that the Manta is still sitting there, with the guy trying to open it. He decides to go out and help, and when he gets near to the car he sees that the guy's girlfriend+ is sitting inside, making helpful remarks like "more to the left," "no, higher," and so on.

* Stereotypical Manta driver word used to begin a sentence.
+ Canonically, she would be a hairdresser.

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Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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twistedmentat posted:

What about rolling them down a hill?

Imagine me posting a video of the Blechbüchsenarmee here (because I can't find one).

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Krispy Wafer posted:

I want one of those .justice government email addresses.

for.great.justice

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Jerry Cotton posted:

Why the gently caress are the only two OSs in the world (that I can easily get) that work on old computers and support SMP Linux (which I don't need another box of) and Windows NT?

Comedy option: BeOS

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Jerry Cotton posted:

I didn't know Beos supported SMP.

:eng99:


That was its major selling point. It was the first SMP OS on consumer grade hardware.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Cojawfee posted:

No fair, you changed my music by measuring it listening.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Imagined posted:

I can't help but suspect that that guy probably actually listens to maybe two hours of music a year, too.

Music? Music? That would be ruining the experience, nothing but pure unadulterated 440Hz sine waves for me.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

I had a CD burned for me this very morning. It has X-rays of my shoulder with a plate and a literal dozen screws in it. Hopefully that's the last one.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Cojawfee posted:

Also, this all reminds me of a story from years ago (that was probably fake) that was about an underwater cave. In this cave, they found a self portrait of a giant squid made of the bones of sea creatures.

That's an HP Lovecraft story, can't remember the title right now.

e: I was thinking of Dagon, but the creature there is not squidlike.
There's a similar plot point in Terry Pratchett's Jingo.

Zopotantor has a new favorite as of 21:22 on Dec 6, 2019

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Cojawfee posted:

Strichzeichnungstift

Punktierapparat (in German, scroll down for translation).
Not to be confused with the Punktiergerät used by sculptors.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

shovelbum posted:

*checks box sovietishly*

vodka, check

How many grams?

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Scarodactyl posted:

I bought the full version of Operation: Inner Space, a game from '94 that still ran natively on windows up to 7 (maybe even on 10?). It is still for sale at its original full retail price, which is sort of cool and sort of a bummer.
Cool game, though the conceit of fighting through levels based on folders and filea on your computer has become a bit unmanageable.

Doom as an interface for file management

quote:

If the user inflicts a wound upon a process monster, the corresponding process' priority is lowered to give it fewer CPU cycles. When the monster accumulates enough damage and is killed, the associated process is also killed.
[...]
A significant problem with the current implementation of PSDoom is that monsters are much more likely to attack each other than expected. This causes many windows to mysteriously disappear as the program runs. For the same reason, the computer is prone to crashing because certain processes are vital to the computer's operation and should not be killed.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Sweevo posted:

They were reliable enough back in the day. The only problems I ever had were with lovely cassette players chewing up the tape rather than any problem with the tapes themselves. Long term it depends a lot on how they've been stored, but I've got ZX Spectrum games from the early 80s that mostly still work fine.

For error correcting there was usually something, even if it was just a checksum byte. Computers could generally work out if loading had failed even if they couldn't do much about it beside printing an error message and making you start over. So it was more error-detection than correction I guess.

Yup, Spectrum BASIC had one-byte checksums with no error correction. If you got the dreaded Tape Loading Error, you had to rewind and retry, possibly after fiddling with the cable and volume control.
It was quite reliable due to the low transfer speed. IIRC, the Spectrum tape format used some kind of FSK modulation.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Groke posted:

I should think "pornograph" would be the device for playback, the media itself would be a pornogram.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBe0p13cPxk

e: I guess in English that would be "pornographer".

Zopotantor has a new favorite as of 18:12 on May 4, 2020

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

T-man posted:

I mean I admire the dedication and big dick energy of "gently caress you, no backwards compatibility" since windows has bent itself backwards trying to do the impossible. Probably wouldn't appreciate it as much if I ever used an apple product or *scoff* pay for software. Linux Forever!

Linux with or without systemd?











:unsmigghh:

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Veotax posted:



No, that would be me trying to get a 1997 Mac game working on a Windows PC in 2005, I think. I can't read the date on this old screenshot I pulled off my old Photobucket account.

I wish I could find the screenshot of someone running (IIRC) a CP/M emulator running inside a Windows (or at least MSDOS) emulator running in SheepShaver (Mac emulator) on BeOS.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

LifeSunDeath posted:

Always wanted to try out a Datahand keyboard. I really thought they were going to be the future of typing but they weren't.



The keys were supposed to require almost zero movement of your fingers to actuate and therefore be more comfortable and efficient.

You could mount them in weird places too:



Have a Writehander (left handed actually).

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

Drain enough of those mercury puzzles into a tub and you can float cannon balls on that poo poo!

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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Johnny Aztec posted:

Yeah, this is by design. They want, and need, those people in prison slaves.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Dick Trauma posted:

I think it would be a great promotion to put an elephant on it. What's the worst thing that could happen?

Well, the worst thing that did happen...

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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Cojawfee posted:

Everytime I want to watch 2001, I remember I have to get through that ape sequence first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gggQtG8hgKY&t=45s

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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Some Goon posted:

Anything with a needle can play a record. You'd just have to affix a needle made of something that won't damage it. And with no preamp you wouldn't have anything to offset the riaa curve.

Yeah, you can just tape a sewing needle to a piece of stiff paper and play a record with it once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaqmdcaF87w

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

TotalLossBrain posted:

that reminds me of a line I saw in a journal article about some RF spoofing method: "This is the signal-processing equivalent to playing xylophone with a cat: it's ugly and illegal, but it works."

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Dick Trauma posted:

I remember reading that some of those tiny cameras came with a length of thread to indicate the focal length.

Wikipedia posted:

An 18-inch (460 mm) measuring chain was provided with most Minox subminiature cameras, which enabled easy copying of letter-sized documents. The espionage use of the Minox has been portrayed in Hollywood movies and TV shows, and some 1980s Minox advertising has played up the "spy camera" story.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

wa27 posted:

RPN for life



These are still being made AFAIK, but what I really want is the programmer’s version.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Cojawfee posted:

Holy poo poo they are 200 dollars. I think HP could definitely make a new one and sell it to people into retro computing. A lot of those features seem like they would be really useful for assembly stuff on old microprocessors.

200 dollars is small change for obsolete computing hardware, compared to some other things.

That's the cheapest one currently on offer.

Here’s a video showing how insanely complex these are.

Zopotantor has a new favorite as of 20:02 on Mar 19, 2021

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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Shibawanko posted:

teachers prescribing how you should write or tie your shoelaces was so stupid back then. what the gently caress does it matter how you do it as long as the result is there

At least with shoelaces there is a right way and a wrong way to do it (reef knot vs. granny knot).

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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Humphreys posted:

Might be due to the most common letters in English language being E, T, A, R, then S? Not sure if translates to most common opening characters in a sentence, but need thing I learnt from a cryptography course (and Wheel of Fortune)

ETAOIN SHRDLU

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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Arsenic Lupin posted:

Spearphishers are frighteningly good at what they do. If you're personally worth hacking, or if you're in an organization worth hacking, it's going to be addressed to your correct name, apparently from somebody you have an existing connection to. I saw a news report the other day of people being hacked because they opened the conference program for a conference they were going to be presenting at. It wasn't actually from the conference organization, and the payload was something they would reasonably have opened.

quote:

The Nigerian criminal group known as London Blue, has even used legitimate commercial lead generation sites to gather information on CFOs and other finance department employees.

":airquote:Legitimate:airquote: lead generation sites" my pasty rear end.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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Johnny Aztec posted:

I kind of want you to send me a box of burnt out Photomultiplier tubes.


I don't know why, but.....I do.

Maybe the people running this have a few spare ones.

quote:

Mounted on an inside superstructure are about 13,000 photomultiplier tubes that detect light from Cherenkov radiation.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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LifeSunDeath posted:

what do you think scrap value on that thing is?

Before or after removing the asbestos/PCBs/whatever may be in there?

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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Computer viking posted:

Oh yeah, as I said the writing was on the wall for sgi long before the first itanium machines came out. High end MIPS was probably doomed by intels ability to convert massive sales into RnD.

I'm not equally sure about Alpha, but I get the impression HP/Compaq wanted to get out of CPU design and worked closely with Intel from the start; it's hard to keep an architecture going when the new owners actively want to retire it.

Same story for PA-RISC, I guess - I know less about it, but I have a maybe unfounded feeling that there were more Alpha than PA-RISC machines around?

Was the threat of itanium one of the reasons sun/Oracle kind of gave up on sparc as a competitor, or was that just market forces or a desire to be more of a services company? What about desktop PowerPC? :iiam:

Itanium was originally HP's attempt at getting VLIW architecture into the mainstream. Some kind of x86 compatibility was added only when they decided to cooperate with Intel (IIRC).

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Oh hey, another product from shortly after HP's mechanical engineers got a CAD tool that could handle freeform surfaces and decided that from then on everything had to look half melted.








I may have worked on that tool, but please don’t blame me.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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VictualSquid posted:

So, I mentioned that plotters don't have to be digital.
Have you heard the good word of x-y writers?


You see those lab connectors? This is where the signal goes.
You generally have a function generator that generates a fairly slow triangle wave on the X. And some sort of result to this on the Y input.

I have fond memories of writing a program (in UCSD Pascal on an Apple II, really good stuff at the time) for drawing curves on something like this via some kind of D/A converter, in a physics course in school. Turned out that my first attempt was way too fast for this, as you said it needs really slow waveforms.
The other time it was used was for the final exam, where our teacher demonstrated that beer foam exhibits the same kind of exponential decay as radioactive substances.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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Trabant posted:

But yeah, engineers will probably be the last group to give up on that approach, esp. those that have to develop code. Everyone else... yeah, I can see it happening. If your computer or application has a halfway decent search capability, highly structured organization may not be worth the effort.

Engineer here and I would like to have my BeOS file system back.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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His Divine Shadow posted:

Stuff that's lying on the shelves around here:


Some kind of coax to ethernet stuff?

Thinwire to twisted pair adapter?

(It was called thin wire in comparison to the yellow stuff.)

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Yeah, I’m a software guy, I’m leaving transceivers and poo poo to the experts. My only hands-on experience with network cabling was when I had to solder BNC connectors to thinwire some 30+ years ago. That sucked.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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thepopmonster posted:

I know there are a few retrobuilders in this thread, if anyone wants any or preferably all of:
* AGP radeon 9800 - 256M/128 bit (unknown if works, don't have any AGP machines)
* PCI ATI TV Wonder 650 (probably works - the PC I pulled it from just had a dead PSU)
* PCI no-name card with 3xUSB and 3x firewire ports (same)
* PCI-E passively cooled full-height PCIE 512M Sapphire Radeon HD4670 (this one works enough to come up in at least 2D mode in Linux and the caps look good, so I'd say this one works)
* 2x patriot PC3200 400mhz DDR dimms cl 2-3-2-5, PDC-1G3200LLK (unknown)
* a PCI-E Dell 4350 adaptor, 1/2 height card, full height bracket, no fan (parts only)
* 2x2GB DDR2 667Mhz ram (works, compatible with Celeron 420)
and are willing to pay the postage from NOLA (close-enough in SA gift certs is fine) please PM (or email me if you don't have PMs.)

So, with that out of the way, let us all praise the transputer.

The what?

The Inmos Transputer was a UK development - the idea was there was a very simple stack-based processor with on-chip ram (4K) that had built-in serial interconnects (4x20mbit, which in the days when 10mbit ethernet was "fast" was a big deal). It was basically supposed to be the next big thing - parallel task-based message-passing architecture - but pretty much sank without a trace. I recall an anecdote that they had a symposium or whatever themed around the transputers and someone went to the trouble of going round and asking all the presenters how many transputer nodes each of them had and none of them had more than two, so that might have had something to do with it.

http://people.cs.bris.ac.uk/~dave/transputer.html)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdK3PXKvYgs

The first company I ever did a job interview at was building PC plugin cards with transputers that did… something. I don’t remember anything else, except that they asked me if I would be OK with having cats in the office.

Oh hey, found an old (German) article about it. It was one transputer, and the board was a SCSI controller.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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Kwyndig posted:

Cats, in a computer office? Were they at least MS certified?

IIRC it was just the company owner's cat which was allowed to walk around the office. This was a small German company; our garages are tiny so startups are usually founded in repurposed residential buildings, and this was one of that sort.

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Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

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barbecue at the folks posted:

Membrane keyboards were necessary to get early 8 bit computers down to their desired price point, but boy howdy I can only imagine the kind of carpal tunnel syndrome you got from having to learn to code on one of these:



Sinclair machines still manage to surprise me every time with how small they were. Also that design!

The typing issue was mitigated a bit by the input system, with keywords being auto expanded.
Here's an interview with the guy who wrote the manuals for the ZX81 and Spectrum (which were really, really good):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcWLudpe0n8

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