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Two questions: 1.) I assume I'm not image leeching if I'm taking the banner off of lpix.org? I can switch hosting but I figured it was kosher... 2.) Roster, strategy, lineups, etc. are below. If I've left anything off, please let me know. I'm sure I've screwed something up/will screw something up going forward...  Team Info Team Name: St. Louis Self-Congratulators Home City: St. Louis, MO Home Stadium: Busch Stadium III DH Preference: No way; DH is for communists (I can do a DH if that helps people) Feeders: 1961 NYY (5pts) 1996 MON (3pts) 2012 ARZ (2pts) 1993 CAL (1pts) Roster C: Elston Howard, 1961 NYY (howarel01) 1b: Paul Goldschmidt, 2012 ARZ (goldspa01) 2b: Aaron Hill, 2012 ARZ (hillaa01) SS: Nomar Garciaparra, 2005 CHC (acquired via trade. I gave up 1961 Yogi Berra to alpha_destroy.) (garcino01) 3b: Gary Gaetti, 1993 CAA (gaettga01) LF: Moises Alou, 1996 MON (aloumo01) CF: Mickey Mantle, 1961 NYY (mantlmi01) RF: Roger Maris, 1961 NYY (marisro01) BN: Jim Edmonds, 1993 CAA (edmonji01) BN: Justin Upton, 2012 ARZ (uptonju01) BN: Tim Salmon, 1993 CAA (salmoti01) BN: Miguel Montero, 2012 ARZ (montemi01) BN: Clete Boyer, 1961 NYY (boyercl02) BN: Mark Grudzielanek, 1996 MON (grudzma01) SP: Pedro Martinez, 1996 MON (martipe02) SP: Whitey Ford, 1961 NYY (fordwh01) SP: Chuck Finley, 1993 CAA (finlech01) SP: Mark Langston, 1993 CAA (langsma01) SP: Ian Kennedy, 2012 ARZ (kenneia01) CL: JJ Putz, 2012 ARZ (putzjj01) SU: Brad Ziegler, 2012 ARZ (zieglbr01) SR: Dave Veres, 1996 MON (veresda01) SR: Rheal Cormier, 1996 MON (cormirh01) MR: Craig Breslow, 2012 ARZ (breslcr01) LR: Daniel Hudson, 2012 ARZ (hudsoda01) AAA: Vladimir Guerrero, 1996 MON (guerrvl01) AAA: David Hernandez, 2012 ARZ (hernada01) AAA: Trevor Bauer, 2012 ARZ (bauertr01) AAA: Johnny Blanchard, 1961 NYY (blancjo01) AAA: Chili Davis, 1993 CAA (davisch01) Strategy Hit and Run: -5 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: -5 Trying for extra bases: 1 Stealing Bases: 1 Aggressively Tagging Up: 0 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -2 Giving Intentional Walks: -5 Pitching Around Good Hitters: 0 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: 0 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: 3 Bringing in Pinch Runners: 3 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: 4 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -5 Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: 2 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: 2 Lineups Without DH: 1.) Garciaparra, SS 2.) Alou, LF 3.) Mantle, CF 4.) Maris, RF 5.) Howard, C 6.) Goldschmidt, 1b 7.) Gaetti, 3B 8.) Hill, 2b 9.) Pitcher, P With DH: 1.) Garciaparra, SS 2.) Alou, LF 3.) Mantle, CF 4.) Maris, RF 5.) Salmon, DH 6.) Howard, C 7.) Goldschmidt, 1B 8.) Gaetti, 3B 9.) Hill, 2B Note: If facing a lefthanded starting pitcher: 1.) No DH: Tim Salmon subs for Roger Maris 2.) Is DH: Justin Upton subs for Roger Maris
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ST LOUIS CONGRATULATORS When you say "players in the minors who shouldn't be there" do you mean players from the MLB roster? Apologies if I'm telling you something useless, but Salmon should be on the roster and Davis should be in the minors. I'm assuming "who's on the bench" vs. "who's in the lineup" and "order of the starting rotation" don't matter right now? Also, what does the (##/##) mean in front of players? I'm guessing (current ability out of 100/peak ability)? If so, Goldschmidt is pretty bad and I should probably consider playing someone else at 1b.
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Apr 10, 2013 13:15
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St. Louis Self-Congratulators I've only got 29 guys on my roster. I'm missing 2012 ARZ Trevor Bauer, who should be languishing in the minors. (I'll probably swap him with Rheal Cormier because holy poo poo Rheal Cormier is bad in this game.)
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Apr 10, 2013 14:58
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Monathin posted:Due to the limitations of BBM, Trevor Bauer isn't in the database, since he only started this last year and the highest year the league builder rosters go in 2011. Sorry, I probably should have pointed that out. Oof. No wonder my Arizona-based bullpen isn't quite as good as I'd imagined. One fewer year to demonstrate a track record of being awesome. Alright then, please add 1996 MON Ugueth Urbina to my team (urbinug01) ...probably he should've been there from the start. e: GONNA SET THE LEAGUE ON FIRE FairGame fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Apr 10, 2013 |
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Apr 10, 2013 16:14
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EC: St. Louis Self-Congratulators So, uh...now that there's EC stuff, what do I...y'know, do? Minor housekeeping notes: 1.) Please swap Kennedy and Hudson--Kennedy becomes LR, Hudson becomes #5 starter 2.) Please swap Chili Davis and Jim Edmonds (Davis to AAA, Edmonds to bench since I need a backup CF)
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Apr 15, 2013 16:12
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Monathin posted:I'll be likely simming tonight and updating tomorrow so you can see. Right now is 'final roster changes'. Neat; thanks! I'm not supposed to take part in the whole pick 'em thing though, right?
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Apr 15, 2013 17:53
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Dear god my team is terrible St. Louis Self-Congratulators Swap Jim Edmonds to 1b instead of Paul Goldschmidt I...don't even know what else to do; I don't have any more pitchers than what I have in place... Play Whitesnake albums before Chuck Finley starts
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Apr 21, 2013 16:00
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St. Louis Self-Congratulators I posted lineups in the old thread, but I guess they got ignored. I just noticed you're using the position #s as lineups. So please use these as my lineups. 1.) Garciaparra 2.) Maris 3.) Mantle 4.) Alou 5.) Howard 6.) Edmonds (remember, Edmonds is my new 1b, replacing Goldschmidt) 7.) Hill 8.) Gaetti
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Apr 22, 2013 15:34
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Smasher Dynamo posted:
If I've done anything stupid because I'm an expansion owner who has no idea what the gently caress, please correct/ridicule as necessary
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Apr 28, 2013 18:23
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Smasher Dynamo posted:For Expansion Owners Only!
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Apr 28, 2013 20:48
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CraigK posted:Dave Veres is on a Super League Team? Jesus Christ, I still have nightmares from when he pitched for real! Dave Veres owns and is my favorite "bad, but not hilariously so" Cardinals closer of the last 2 decades. Runner-up: Juan Acevedo anyway.... St. Louis Congratulators Moving deck chairs on the titanic: 1.) Ian Kennedy to rotation, Hudson to DL. Call up Ugueth Urbina as long relief. 2.) What the gently caress is a Nathan Longernan? Release him so I can get a cooler fake player. 3.) Platoon Montero at catcher vs. RHP and Howard vs. LHP 4.) Justin Upton to AAA. Vlad Guerrero to big club. 5.) Platoon Vlad in RF vs. LHP and Maris vs. RHP
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Apr 29, 2013 15:27
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Apr 30, 2013 16:25
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I never watched Rocky Balboa because I was afraid he'd die at the end so thanks for writing all that up oh, and the baseball stuff too i guess
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May 1, 2013 04:53
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Yeah, no orders here. My team stinks; Langston and Finley have 90+ ratings but apparently are rubbish in the Super League. Other than Mickey loving Mantle, all my hitters suck too. Guess i'll just play out the string and hope to draft well.
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May 2, 2013 17:38
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Smasher Dynamo posted:There are probably one or two teams per expansion class that are completely unsalvageable. The rest can be fixed if you know what you're doing. Granted, new owners probably don't, but having them build teams from a very small list of feeder teams probably isn't going to do much for them either. I'm probably one of the one or two unsalvageable teams and I'd still rather keep going. I have no idea what I'm doing so I'll lose for a while. That's fine. Here's a question, though: I'm seeing that there are some teams who have pitchers who pitch to contact, leading me to believe there are entire strategies around having sweet ground ball pitchers and amazing fielders to suck everything up. When I'm putting together a roster in the future, should I be looking at a player's peripheral defensive stats on BBREF or something? I really was just going "welp; he was a good hitter/pitcher" with 0 context to defense, park size, etc. In other words, was my feeder construction bad merely from a talent-selection standpoint, was it fine talent-wise but lacking a coherent strategy for how to get outs/runs, or just lovely all around?
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May 2, 2013 20:41
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So when/how do I draft?
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May 6, 2013 05:29
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So I guess I have the #2 pick in the draft coming up. Meaning I'm either going to have a Ser Barrold or Babe loving Ruth. That's pretty awesome. However, 1 guy--however incredible--does not fix my poo poo roster. I need mutliple starting pitchers and a 3b. Desperately. If you want to make an offer, by all means, please do.
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May 6, 2013 21:21
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Senerio posted:Don't trade Dispersal Draft Picks. Everyone is saying don't trade picks. So I probably won't unless someone wants to offer me 2 seriously legit starting pitchers and a 3b solution. And that's probably overpaying even for a Babe Ruth or a Ser Barrold, First of His Name. What am I missing, though? Yes, those 2 players are loving amazing and exist on a higher tier than literally anyone else. But with the rest of my roster being basically complete poo poo, wouldn't it make more sense to fix several weak spots rather than have 1 really amazing player?
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May 7, 2013 14:13
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Cthulhu Dreams posted:If I was you, I'd start to auction your pick now so you have plenty of time to solicit offers and ensure you are getting a reasonable deal. Also, log into IRC and run any trade by Smasher. Ruth is the 'obvious' first pick so people can buy your pick with confidence. Understood. I actually have the #2 pick so presumably it's Barry Bonds that I'm trading. And yeah: what Smasher outlined below is what I had in mind (though I'd actually prefer a starting pitching-heavy deal rather than 1 SP + other awesome poo poo) Worst case scenario I don't see any deals I like and I end up with Barry Bonds, which would be pretty cool too!
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May 7, 2013 14:59
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ForeverBWFC posted:I stand by my statement, Ruth and Borrold will definitely help more in the gauntlet than 2 better-than-average pitchers and an infield option. I'm not planning on going to The Gauntlet, though  And in a large sample size, you want competent pitching more than you need a circus strongman, however much that circus strongman owns (see: the 1998 St. Louis Cardinals) Furthermore, I'm not looking for "better than average" pitchers. I thought Chuck Finley and Mark Langston were going to be good since they had strong careers and were rated in the 90s and they got loving shelled. I'll keep my #2 pick if someone doesn't knock me over with an amazing "fix your starting rotation for the cost of 1 Barrold Bonds" offer.
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May 7, 2013 18:37
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ToiletofSadness posted:Here are my unsolicited thoughts on your situation: Thanks for this. Would this be a serviceable SL outfield? LF: Mantle CF: Edmonds RF: Maris/Vlad platoon Also, Roger Maris is a loving trap player  I suppose it doesn't matter what I can do with my #2 right now because nobody is trying to trade for it. I'd love tons of picks instead of players too! Really, it's the same logic I had originally: I have too many holes for 1 pick to solve. Either I need more picks, or I need to flip my pick for multiple players.
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May 7, 2013 21:56
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I'm finding this all fascinating, at least. Like, if I had to do this all over again I'd have a coherent strategy to my team/park rather than "dudes that were good" and "yay st. louis" respectively. I'd also have completely avoided the 2012 DBacks since it seems to be a pretty good rule of thumb that all the current players in their prime are bad.
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May 7, 2013 22:21
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 St. Louis Self-CongratulatorsSmasher, is it kosher if I do this? If not, then just assume I use my pick on 2000 Barry Bonds. My team sucks, and a Ser Barrold (Praise be Unto Him) doesn't help me as much as multiple players likely would. I REALLY want to trade my pick. What I'd want back: 1.) Another lower 1st-round pick + a #1 starter type OR 2.) A high 2nd and 3rd round pick + a #2-3 starter type OR 3.) Whatever mystery thing you've got to offer. In other words, please don't think I'm neglecting my team. I know I'm on the clock, but I was hoping the championship would be decided by then so that everyone had perfect information on the draft. If I'm not allowed to post to solicit trades/drag my feet, I choose 2000 Bonds. If I don't get an offer I like, I choose 2000 Bonds. ...sorry to be a pest.
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May 13, 2013 00:54
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tatankatonk posted:You know what? Take both. Take them both. Take Gibson, and Hubbell, and the pick, and just give me Bonds so I can show the world my love for dingers Trade accepted. I'll take your 1st rounder, Gibson, Hubbell. You can have a Ser Barrold, First of His Name
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May 13, 2013 01:56
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Hey, I still control the 18th and 24th overall picks and still need SP/1b/2b/3b help (my team is real bad; I picked some bad feeders). It was super late last night and I needed to go to bed, but I was in negotiation for the 24th pick. I believe the packages were: My 24th pick for: Billy Williams + Steve Carlton (don't remember years; can y'all post please?) or My 24th pick for: Johan Santana + Rafael Palmeiro + Frank Tanana + some utility infielder I'm leaning toward the second package but I worry that Santana will suck in the Super League. Raffy's a big improvement over Paul Goldschmidt, and Tanana provides insurance in case my rookie Gibson rolls poorly. The second package gives me an acceptable rotation (Pedro/Hubbell/Sananta/Ford/Gibson) and an adequate lineup everywhere but either 2b or 3b (Elston Howard/Palmeiro/Nomar/Mantle/Edmonds/Maris-Alou platoon, whoever I draft at 18 for 2b or 3b) with some decent subs (baby Vlad, Chuck Finley, Mark Langston). My bullpen would still be a dumpster fire, but whatever. I can abuse my starters or something. Does this seem like a reasonable return? I feel like it improves me far more than a single draft pick would.
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May 13, 2013 14:26
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Cthulhu Dreams posted:Billy Williams is 1964 and Steve Carlton is 1978. I can come up with another piece as well - what do you need? I like this package more than the Johan one. I'd be rolling the dice big time between Rosen and Garciaparra at 3b and SS respectively, though. Anybody else want to weigh in? Will 1978 Carlton play in the SL? e: note that if left to my own devices, I will likely use the 24th overall pick to select a starting pitcher.
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May 13, 2013 15:15
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Eh. Whitey Ford did OK by me in the EC. I could live with another lefty starter. So many trap picks in this game, though.
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May 13, 2013 15:39
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Cthulhu Dreams posted:Billy Williams is 1964 and Steve Carlton is 1978. I can come up with another piece as well - what do you need? Assuming this is still on the table: Trade Accepted St. Louis Self-Congratulators give up: 24th overall pick in draft Receive: 1953 Al Rosen 1964 Billy Williams 1978 Steve Carlton
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May 13, 2013 17:16
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Smasher Dynamo posted:Great, I go to bed and I wake to find that, once again, the Cardinals and their fans have ruined it for everyone. Not that trading your #1 pick in the draft for a bunch of crappy players that CthulhuDreams has no real interest in using isn't a fantastic strategy. Still, I suppose this is one of the things where I'm just going to have to let the children learn from their own mistakes. Trade approved. It's my #2 pick in the draft  ...but yeah, if I hosed up, I hosed up. Seemed like it was an OK deal in IRC and it vastly improves my 3b (Gaetti), SP5 (Chuck Finley), and 1b (Paul Goldschmidt) status.
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May 13, 2013 17:37
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I'd actually enjoy having an old-rear end Rickey Henderson. What are we talking, here?
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May 14, 2013 04:07
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GrickleGrass posted:He's a pretty shiny turd, as far as turds go. A fast turd. A patient turd. Still has some value especially as a pinch runner, fourth outfielder type who can't hit for poo poo but can swipe some bags if you're facing a team that hands out walks like AOL free-trial disks. Both are nineties era relics. I have a lovely selection of turds for your old Rickey. Perhaps a Mark Grudzielanek or Mike Lansing might be of interest at middle infield? Or a 1993 Chuck Finley or Mark Langston? Perhaps a 2012 Paul Goldschmidt or Justin Upton
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May 14, 2013 04:50
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GrickleGrass posted:
Both Gruzielanek and Lansing are 1996 Montreal models. Grudzielanek's 26. Lansing's 28. Lansing didn't make my roster. Grudzielanek hit .285 with a .313 OBP in limited duty.
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May 14, 2013 14:58
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With the 18th pick in the draft, the St. Louis Self-Congratulators select 1905 Napoleon Lajoie The Rochester Generics are on the clock.
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May 15, 2013 14:47
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Do you like crapshoots on borderline Hall of Famers? Then I've got a player for you! For the low low price of literally any draft pick, even the last overall in the draft you can have a 21 year old Vladimir Guerrero! He's basically a fetus (his rookie year 1997; this is the 96 version) but he actually did just fine for me in limited play in the EC, and if he rolls well he's probably better than any other OFer you could get late in the 4th round. I've got like a million outfielders (and you probably do too) but if you need a Vlad, he's yours.
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May 15, 2013 19:26
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oldskool posted:Have I got a fourth-round pick for you. I don't know. Have you?
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May 15, 2013 23:28
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mrnoun posted:Galactic Wanderers Want a '96 Vlad (Fetus Vlad), '96 Alou (in his prime), or '93 Chili Davis? Also, condolences on your loss. Good on you for even attempting it, though!
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May 16, 2013 03:24
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mrnoun posted:Davis was a full-time DH by '93, but I'd be willing to take a flyer on Vlad and Alou, if the price is right. Who would you want for them? It'd be Vlad OR Alou, since the remaining guy becomes Maris' platoon partner. I need relief pitching. I also need a good 3b/SS type that can spell my glass menagerie of Al Rosen/Nomar Garciaparra. In Vlad's case, any draft pick gets the job done. That only applies to one of you; I'll need to take a longer look through your roster. Alou's in his prime and not a crapshoot; I'd likely have to be really impressed by an offer (which as I've proven, doesn't mean it has to be a good offer) to move him. I'd rather Alou/Maris than Vlad/Maris.
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May 16, 2013 03:47
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Reminder that I'm still looking to acquire bullpen help and draft picks, and I totally forgot that my roster includes 2 usable outfielders I'd like to trade You already know about Baby Vlad (1996 Expos), but I also have Tim Salmon (1993 Angels) and Moises Alou (1996 Expos) I'd prefer to keep Alou as Maris' platoon partner, but for the right deal I'd move him instead of Salmon. Salmon has literally no platoon split in his career and would make a perfectly good RF for someone. Vlad's a total crapshoot still, obviously. mrnoun, if you prefer more of a sure thing, I'd move my Salmon for your Honeycutt & 4th rounder.
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May 16, 2013 15:51
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mrnoun posted:I'll take that. Rad; thanks. Viscount Slim posted:FairGame, I'd like to make you aware that I have the 2000 Cardinals as a feeder, so if you'd like to try your luck on any of the pitching staff before they went crazy or died, I can help you with that. oh my god I need Rick Ankiel give me Rick Ankiel also are you using your old-ish Lankford? FairGame fucked around with this message at 17:05 on May 16, 2013 |
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Viscount Slim posted:Haha, done. As to Lankford, he was my fifth outfielder for a while, but, nah he's pretty low on the chart after all these seasons of drafting. He's available. I already have a Dave Veres (1996 montreal). If you like, I can give you my Dave Veres in exchange for Rick Ankiel. Then the two Veres can hang out and hope not to touch each other because they'll cause this horrible abomination like at the end of the Van Damme movie, Timecop.
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