Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer - BIOWARE REDEMPTION ZONE

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Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Felinoid posted:

Can't even be bothered to do a London Bronze? Dayamn.

Yeah unless you've decided you're tired of the game all together this is a goal you'd regret not getting because it's pretty easy to just get through bronze.

Now, after you get your personal goal, if you don't feel like doing the meat grinder that London can be I don't blame you.

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Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I don't get what's unreliable about the projectiles, you don't even really have to aim either throw or warp.

# ¿ Aug 13, 2012 03:47

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

The more mobile enemies can dodge.

But warp usually hits anyway and throw will too if you take radius.

# ¿ Aug 13, 2012 03:57

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Oh, yeah, I end up hosting a good percentage of the time, which may be why I have such luck with projectiles (well, the AA projectiles. Cryo and incinerate probably are about 50% against little things on gold) . I rarely set out to host but I always end up the host when the host inevitably leaves 3 seconds before the hack is complete.

# ¿ Aug 13, 2012 11:18

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

The Geth infiltrator is a lot of fun but I wish I would've got it like a month ago because instead of sneaking up and killing a group of enemies usually what happens is an N7 character turns the corner and kills them all before I get into melee range. I'm not complaining too much though, because bronze matches almost are always under 20 minutes.

# ¿ Aug 15, 2012 22:56

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Anyone tried to ABC with a human vanguard on gold since the change? I could actually do ok (and by ok I mean not just end up wiped all the time) by selectively charging on gold pre-change but it also ruins the fun that is the human vanguard rhythm game.

# ¿ Aug 22, 2012 02:44

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I really liked your guide, SciFiDownBeat, most of the tactics you described of classes I have seemed fairly good starting places. My main disagreement is the Paladin. Making your own tech bursts is a chore and you could probably do better at it with a regular human engineer. But even on gold and even in my sucky hands the light melee is super effective if you go cryo shield.

# ¿ Aug 24, 2012 09:45

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

SciFiDownBeat posted:

Makes sense, since it's the only class I haven't unlocked. I just mashed together advice that I remembered from other goons.

Thanks for the advice Rick! I'm happy that at least one person liked my guide... or even noticed it...

Gangringo posted:

Bronze to silver is a pretty big jump. You need a team that is either level 12+ or has some really good equipment to do silver. The jump from silver to gold is much smaller than from bronze to silver.

Remember that bronze, by nature, has to be beatable by four level one characters with base equipment.

Also, as said, add me on origin (gangringo) because everything is more fun with goons.

I don't know, I'm not very good and I'm almost never going to lose on silver with no equipment and well lower than 12.

# ¿ Aug 31, 2012 06:24

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I still think that cannibals are the most bullshit enemy in the game.

# ¿ Sep 1, 2012 08:38

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

MrDude posted:

Something stupid from the Bioware forum that may be worth giving a shot. Basically, Human Adept specced for melee damage supposedly 2-shotting (Gold) Brutes by a couple accounts. OP says something to the effect of taking 5 bars off Banshees' barriers, but not armor. Current theory on page 4 or so is that HA heavy melee counts as a power (can be blocked by Banshee hand shield?) and may have some kind of multipliers. No video proof, possibly all bullshit. I can't keep up with the math. Still, could be a fun waste of a Gold match.

If nothing else, I feel bad for barely giving HA a shot, since I thought HA had the same melee as Drell Adepts :downs:

I'm not really that surprised. I've never tried it off of bronze, but melee human adept is a lot of fun and surprisingly effective.

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

Why not try with drellept? Same heavy melee, reave's better than all the HA skills combined and your light melee is motherfucking kung-fu. :black101:

I've done a drell adept melee build, and while you definitely can do more damage than the human, even on bronze you're still glass and wind up dead a lot more often. Plus the DA is one of my favorite classes to use on gold and I need the non-melee build to stay alive there.

# ¿ Sep 4, 2012 07:13

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I've been trying really hard to solo this because I've never been able to do it, and this game just really slaps me in the face with the fact that I suck as I try to do it.

# ¿ Sep 8, 2012 09:16

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

FronzelNeekburm posted:

Either I've forgotten how easy Bronze is, or all those Charge buffs are hilariously strong. Soloed FBW/C/B with a Kroguard and felt like I was a living grenade, just knocking crowds of dudes over every three seconds.

Surprisingly, only two dudes so far who insisted on blowing all their medigel in the first couple of waves, and a lot of competent N7 < 120 showing up in my matches.

The one public match I have been in, I was really impressed, until someone used their gel in loving round 9 when we weren't in any danger of losing.

# ¿ Sep 8, 2012 11:18

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I'll let you know how it works if I ever unlock that character, but since they added gold equipment that's pretty much all I get now (and not the good stuff like grenade increases or whatever).

I can get through solo on bronze with consumables, and don't usually die in the main combat. It's the cash rounds that do me in pretty much. Actually really it's just the hacks. But I haven't managed to not get one yet in several hours of play today.

# ¿ Sep 8, 2012 16:16

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Two Finger posted:

What are you playing on? If you're on 360 I can give you a hand?

Thanks! I play on PS3 but I still appreciate it, so many people here have basically let me tag along to packs (like Wet Biscuit McGee and Fight Club Sandwich have gotten me like 4 packs between them, and I'll probably be bothering one of you guys when I crawl out of bed some time this afternoon). It's just frustrating that I still can't get them on my own. I seem to be really close with either a human vanguard (which I unfortunately only have my vanguard at around level 12 right now since I promoted for the last event and then didn't touch it until this one, which isn't helping), or a Batarian Sentinel but my strategy just doesn't work with the hacks.

# ¿ Sep 9, 2012 10:51

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I really wish they would stop doing these challenges that can't be done with public groups until they figured out how to tell PS3 players the requirements for the objectives.

# ¿ Sep 20, 2012 03:52

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I finally got a vorcha today!

# ¿ Sep 24, 2012 05:41

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

Noone ever tells me I'm horribly wrong with these guides, so I'm just gonna assume I'm some sort of tactical genius. :zaeed:

Kick rear end, take names, break fans: a short guide to vorcha sentinel

Like fire? Hate air conditioners? Vorcha might just be the race for you.

The basics: 750 health, 250 shields. Very fast movement speed and dodges. Heavy melee is very fast and covers a lot of ground. Still not as fast as just shooting the dude, so use it sparingly. Passive health regeneration, which is absolutely amazing on higher difficulties.

Powers: Bloodlust: every kill you get allows you to stack bonuses, going up to three kills. Can be upgraded to either turn you into a melee damage beast or have ridiculous (+600%) health regeneration. Each kill on the stack lasts 15 seconds.

Flamer: it's a flamethrower, like it says on the tin. Fantastic damage to armour and health, suffers against shields and barriers. Cancelling it partway will let it recharge more quickly, so only use as much as you need. The burn damage it paints on targets is nothing to sneeze at, so if a lit enemy has a bar or two of health left, feel free to leave them and let them burn down on their own. Possibly the best trash-clearing power in the game. A single round of flaming (+the DoT) will kill basic mooks on any difficulty up to and including gold. Shreds bosses.

Cluster Grenades: the soldier gets carnage instead but carnage is terrible. If you have the VorSent, take him over the VorSol every time. A handful of biotic grenades that do massive damage. Can set off all types of power combo and actually has the damage output to pull that off. Note particularly that flamer will prime fire explosions and cluster grenades will set them off.

Preferred weapons: Reegar, preferably with a ULM acolyte as a backup. Even if you took the flamer shield upgrade, you're useless against shields and barriers.

Muffin's specc: http://narida.pytalhost.com/me3/classes/#34POLOA@0@0@A@@@0@0@0@0

You have two jobs: clearing trash and killing bosses. Anything in between is someone else's business. With the armour killing upgrade, two flamers will burn up a brute on gold. I haven't crunched the numbers but purely from observation, it's on par with a Piranha GInfiltrator for DPS. Your super-quick dodges make it easy to bug out, then re-engage, if something goes wrong. Cluster Grenades can be used for a quick damage-dump if plan B goes wrong.

You're not as squishy as the numbers would have you think but you're not a tank either. The health regeneration gives you the edge in protracted combat but it you're still not a krogan. Your speed and mobility and your biggest assets to staying alive. The regen is icing on that.

I ended up using this build and it was pretty good.

You guys weren't kidding about being almost unkillable on bronze. But it seems like you can die, if you actively do something to contribute to your death such as rushing forward into a pack of cannibals or stand literally in front of a turret.

# ¿ Sep 24, 2012 07:15

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

It does seem like stasis on Atlases does something.

# ¿ Sep 24, 2012 08:04

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I imagine they'll make it lighter rather than stronger.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2012 03:25

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

It's amazing how many points you wrack up as a vorcha sentinel, even without really noticing it. I don't feel like I'm doing any better but my score is a lot higher.

I'm also glad I'm not the only dork who put their forum ID number instead of their username into that "who's playing" list in the OP. Whoops.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2012 07:27

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I think farming on Gold is a good way to learn at least what your general level of survivability is with a class, even though it doesn't accurately reflect on your ability to kill things in a non-farm context.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2012 09:55

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Just reconnect it? (=

If you want to play with someone of your skill level hit me up sometime (rick9109). Don't let my 485 N7 level fool you, I'm still really bad at this game.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2012 12:22

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

Anyone got any tips for Asari Vanguard? If the charge changes stick, I want to give her more of a go.

I've found the class most effective where you are a close combat character that uses your charge as a bailout, rather than as an "Always Be Charging" type philosophy common with other vanguards. It's the class with the fastest charge cooldown period so you can still charge a whole heck of a lot, but I find I'm more effective if I start with a shotgun up close then finish the job with a charge.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2012 12:32

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I can't decide if I do better with the crusader or piranha with vorcha. I seem to miss the other gun when I switch between them.

# ¿ Oct 3, 2012 06:52

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

If anyone needs help tomorrow getting the challenge just ask me, although I will state that I got it like 9 times over today with randos. The only time we failed to get bronze under 20 was a time when everyone but me refused to escort and I got tired of carrying the team so I stopped too until they came over to help. I was generally averaging about 15 minutes a match with some groups that weren't very good.

Here's a crazy thing, I decided to use a phaeston with an Asari vanguard and just wrecking poo poo. I don't exactly know why though.

Rick fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Oct 7, 2012

# ¿ Oct 7, 2012 10:33

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

So did anyone here end up with a Crusader X yet? I got IX this time.

# ¿ Oct 11, 2012 12:00

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I knew tangentially that there were new enemies and stuff in the game but I didn't look to see what they were, so my thought process of "hmm looks like a Phoenix vanguard has joined the game, and he's surrounded, I'd better help him out" had pretty hilarious results when I started getting lashed and I noticed some enemy with yellow health that I was looking around for before I figured out what was happening.

# ¿ Oct 12, 2012 04:30

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I've gotten the gold medal before with the sentinel, it's really not that hard, just pretend you don't have a gun.

Now, getting it with the human adept, that's a challenge.

# ¿ Oct 18, 2012 22:05

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

This might seem like a silly question, but remember, we just started getting the event notifications on PS3 two weeks ago, but, if I haven't gotten the HEY THERE'S AN EVENT GOING ON splash does that mean I can't participate yet?

# ¿ Oct 20, 2012 00:33

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I do think silver is more successful as a "hey this strategy you're trying might not work so hot as the game gets more difficult" venue then it was before. Although it's sad no being able to just exclusively shield melee with the Paladin on silver anymore.

# ¿ Oct 20, 2012 00:50

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

No crusader X this week (at this point I want it just for the humor) but I did get the next best thing, which was Eagle V.

Other than "promote your characters" that was the easiest challenge ever. An acolyte is a good companion for this challenge because it will almost never kill an enemy but it staggers them setting them up for an easy melee, as if it wasn't easy enough (it helps to be able to one-punch pyros before your rage kicks in though).

# ¿ Oct 20, 2012 01:25

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Wampus42 posted:

This has got to be the most relaxing weekend challenge yet. Just a steady rhythm of headbutts and heavy melees, especially against Cerberus.

Plus it helped me to appreciate the Acolyte. I had gotten it to level X, but only took it out once when I first got it and after the most frustrating match ever, never touched it again.

With the charge up gone, it's become the poor man's Scorpion, maybe even better because you can bounce the warp grenades around corners.

Yeah at least 4-5 times I looked like an idiot shooting at nothing thinking I needed to charge up the acolyte.

# ¿ Oct 21, 2012 09:48

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Maybe I was just getting good groups last night but farming FBW geth seems even easier now (although not as easy as it was at the very beginning). I was a bit skeptical when we started hanging out at the top of the ramp because that used to be the sign of a game that was gonna wipe. But it works. Enemies still very rarely flank you there and 3 people focusing on the hall and one person killing everything that walks up the stairs makes it all go pretty fast. It seems they throw bombers at you now instead of 3 Geth Prime waves and that makes a difference too.

# ¿ Oct 22, 2012 22:50

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Vietnamwees posted:

Honestly, with their behavior of sort of hanging around first before they lay bombs, Bombers aren't so bad attack-wise, but actually trying to kill them is a pain in the rear end, They have shields AND armor(although very little of both) and they are just so goddamn small that its hard to aim and hit them sometimes.

Does hacking them cause them to drop bombs on their own? Or does it just wipe their shields?

# ¿ Oct 23, 2012 03:16

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

subroc posted:

The Novaguard was the original overpowered class. After that, everyone moved onto the Asari Adept. Now those two classes are still powerful, everyone is just sick to death of using them.

But yeah, you're about seven months late to the party on that one.

It was pretty hard to run Novaguards on gold (not impossible but you had to be Very Good) for a long time until the recent boost to charge. It's still hard against geth since they can stagger you before you nova and occasionally even out of charges somehow.

# ¿ Oct 23, 2012 03:53

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

The only change I think that Primes need is for their ranged attacks to stop staggering you to hell (the game needs less staggering in general). But I still find them manageable even on gold.

# ¿ Oct 24, 2012 02:22

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Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I don't like the Cerberus vanguard anymore. I seem to just constantly get canceled out of smash even on silver.

# ¿ Oct 24, 2012 05:44

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