Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





The car is even better because apparently it makes Ferrari so mad they sent a cease and desist about it.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I figured it was a giant joke as soon as I saw the dished pistons, but then again, looking at the Carrillo catalog, every 3S piston they make is dished for power-adders. Suppose they could have ordered something bespoke if they really wanted to.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I was expecting that to go badly, not be crazy pro-level boat launching.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





mobby_6kl posted:

Don't they already make color tires for those burnout competitions and what not? Probably not street legal but for a show or trackday might be an option.

The ones I remember were still black but just smoked in different colors. The only ones I can find for sale today do have a tint to them but they're sold as for use for burnouts only, not even for drifting (let alone street use).

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





MrYenko posted:

They’re past most of the custom one-off fabrication, and into detail and assembly. Simultaneously, they’ve probably finally gotten into a groove with video production.

Yeah, I think you hit it here. Think about every crazy loving solution they've come up with, like the HVAC or the door locks or the absolute madness of the accessory drive. Each of those would have required a shitload of planning and design before they even drew the first sharpie line of CAD. They're also, in general, showing us the version that worked. While they've gone back and revised things again, I'm sure there have been times where they started down a path and realized it had to be abandoned and started over.

Now most of that insanity is done, so it's just finalizing fabrication, repairing all the worn rear end Celica parts, and putting it all together.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





It's ridiculous, but in all the right ways on a purple Challenger. Very nice.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Mister Kingdom posted:

There's a lot to process here.

There's someone in a FB group I'm in that posts random Brazillian-market cars every day. They all look like GTA versions of the cars the rest of the world got.

A few of them still look pretty good too, though given how long things like the Stovebolt engine survived there, I expect driving dynamics are a different issue.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Terrible Robot posted:

Ok, gonna need to see some more pictures from this group

Yup, same group.



IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Safety Dance posted:

Classic cars are gorgeous, but for all their throaty V8 rumble car manufacturers struggled to make 150hp without throwing the biggest truck motor they could find at the problem. That's probably good though, because braking and turning were mere suggestions.

I'll second this. The SBC in particular. It gets a shitload of credit because you can make a lot of power with it and there were millions upon millions built so they're cheap and plentiful.

But, I would wager that for every SBC built that made more than 255hp* (real horsepower, not the wildly inflated '60s numbers), there were probably 10, if not 100 built that didn't make more than 200hp at the crank. There are only three factory SBC heads that even have the capability to make good horsepower - pre-emissions camel-hump / fuelie heads, the heads on the L98 tuned-port engine, and the Vortec heads from the L31. Trying to make good horsepower with any of the other heads is an uphill battle. The absolute best factory SBC heads are equal to the absolute worst factory LSx heads.

The SBC aftermarket was huge because the factory heads and intake manifolds were poo poo.

*yes, I picked that number because the L31 is probably the only Good SBC produced in volume, compared to stuff like the OG LT-1 that only showed up in top trims of certain models.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Humphreys posted:

I posted it in the chat thread a probably got looked over for not seeing the name on the sign of a place I found that seems to specialise on Holdens.

I didn't even notice the name before, ha.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Colostomy Bag posted:

Ronin was a good flick. Maybe some Bimmerhead can chime in cause from watching it I thought it was a 535i with M5 turbine wheels. Didn't think it was a real M5.

I would expect a real M5, especially given the director's historical choice of camera cars includes GT40s.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





um excuse me posted:

Jack McClure is posting in my facebook group and I'm a little star struck.

To be fair, it's a loving awesome FB group.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





HenryJLittlefinger posted:

Wasn’t that a Holden model that didn’t make it through its first year on the market?

It had good cargo capacity but a problematic rear end.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I even googled it twice because the first time I didn't read past the mention of a book by the same name.

I'm still not sure which is worse.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Humphreys posted:

Fun fact: A company I worked for had a physical copy of the official Style-Guide documentation for Marlboro livery. It included paint codes for various brands of automotive paints, CMYK and RGB values for print-press and rules of separation from other brands. Man I wish that was a book that 'followed me home' one day.

Missed the Marlboro-liveried Penske Indycars, one of which was so loving fast at Indianapolis that it destroyed the series for nearly 15 years.



Edit: also the engine in this car is so loving nuts it has a whole loving book dedicated to it that is worth a read.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Humphreys posted:

Make the bootlid a Teppanyaki plate

This is the one true answer.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I'd rock that C3, salad shooters and all.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





slidebite posted:

A modern pick up truck is built on a pretty rigid frame and they actually ride pretty well, but I'm talking just general poor quality of interior in general.

Yup on both points. My '70 C10 frame is so noodly that if you jack it up from one side of the front crossmember instead of the center, you'll flex the frame enough that you can get one wheel off with the other firmly planted. My '18 Canyon, thanks to the wonders of modern engineering, is so stiff that if you pick it up from anywhere along the front (other than the control arms) both wheels come up.

The ride quality on the Canyon is fine in most cases, it's not so rough that it justifies way more interior rattles. And yes, there are a couple of rattles on mine already, compared to my '13 CR-V that had none even after far more miles. Strangely enough the cabin of a cheap domestic diesel pickup is actually significantly quieter at highway speeds than that CR-V was. We're not talking early-GMT400 levels of plastic resonating on every bump here.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Finger Prince posted:

This is probably a render, but drat this DeLorean looks fresh.


That's definitely a render but I have seen those headlights out in the wild. Saw a minty late second gen Firebird with them and honestly, they fuckin work on that car.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





That is amazing.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Also this is a LMAO

Dan Gurney and Bobby Unser were just straight up legends like that.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Loading an Opel GT on a UHaul car hauler is almost that sketchy for the same reason.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003






Post / gang tag combo. :hmmyes:

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Even with the rulebook they have, Top Fuel is already approaching the limits of what can be done in terms of putting power down to a 1320 1000 foot track. I'm sure you'd make more power if you ran more displacement and more nitro, and possibly from scavenging exhaust energy via turbos (potentially losing very-beneficial downforce from the exhaust in the process - yes, the exhaust makes downforce) but how much more could you really put down without just becoming a rolling smokeshow?

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

That car didnt comply with any rulebook and a lot of tracks were side eyeing that car 4 decades ago as just too fast to be safe.

That's the other part of it. Top Fuel only races to 1000' because at this point they need the extra 320' of shutdown distance to try and gain back some safety margin.

If you did find some significant gain in performance outside of current NHRA rules and even picked up just a few tenths or tens of MPH, you'd be too fast to safely use it at any existing track.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I "fit" (barely) in an NB Miata but the Solstice/Sky were almost as bad as the S2000 as far as "not gonna happen". With the added bonus of GM didn't understand that nobody who can live with a car with effectively zero trunk space, is going to buy a Pontiac or Saturn anything.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Darchangel posted:

So, uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but...
Indycars don't have an onboard starter, right? And also typically need to warm up for like 15-20 minutes before they can drive?
Also, also, why would cars being displayed be fueled up with lovely very dangerous methanol?

That one is just offensive all over.

edit: boy, Sly managed to get that five-point on and buckled in an unreasonable amount of time. Like none, actually.

Yes, no, display cars usually don't even have engines, and you haven't even scratched the surface on how awful that movie is.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





fridge corn posted:

You dont win races by being nice

No but it's also a pretty loving poo poo move to put at least half a dozen other cars and drivers at risk for a mid-pack finish in the "Australia Toyota 86 racing series".

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Man, I saw mentions of that show and my dumb rear end assumed it was way out on the west side instead of probably being about as close as realistically possible to my side of town.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I think it's less "GM has done everything they can do with pushrods" and more "moving the Corvette upmarket while also leaving room for an even more powerful ZR1 model" requires a high-powered naturally aspirated build.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003






I have two of these plate frames somewhere (one for me, one for AISS) and when I went to put my AISS gift together last year, I couldn't find them. Made me want to rip someone's nuts off.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





bennyfactor posted:

I wonder if you have to run the ls head with exhaust on the left, intake on the right, or if that will be able to be swapped as well since they can put an entirely different head on it.

You need the head to line up with the pushrods and the cam, so it'll only go on one way. Windsor and LS heads are remarkably similar when it comes to how they bolt to the block so I'm not the least bit surprised that Blueprint is capable of making tweaks to set it up for one head or the other, or possibly even either head on the same block.

Majere posted:

Also curious about if you have to use the left or right head or either to match the existing engine bay layout.

With pushrod V8 heads, there's no left or right head - they're identical side to side. And just about every pushrod V8 I can think of is set up for the pushrods to come up through the head on the intake side of the head.

Ignoring the problem of getting a non-production engine through emissions, I really like this engine as an option for replacing a Jeep 4.0. Yes, you can fit an LS in those, but it requires dragging the rest of the drivetrain forward so that you have enough room for the heads to clear the firewall. This could easily bolt up to the stock transmission in the stock location.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





bennyfactor posted:

Wonder if it would be possible to take a stock LS/vortec ecu and disable four of the coils/injectors in HPtuners or something like that, since the head is an LS head and presumably some of the other sensors would be chevy parts as well.

Not feasible as far as I know, the common LS ECUs were only configured for operation on 6 or 8 cylinder engines. Other GM ECUs could theoretically work.

Edit: Found at least one person who claims to have done it in an ancient EFILive post. But at any rate there's probably no shortage of ways to make that work, though I suspect Blueprint is only going to support some form of standalone that doesn't pretend to be OBD2 compliant.

But, the only sensors that are going to exist in a combination of "critical to the ECM" and "can't be easily swapped" are the crank and cam position sensors, and those are going to be mounted to the block reading the trigger wheel on the crank and whatever cam sensor they seem to have stuck in the side of the block there (looks very similar to the drop-in "not a distributor" that late 4.0 Jeeps use). The only sensor mounted to the head is coolant temperature and that just threads into the water jacket so physically adapt whatever sensor you need.

IOwnCalculus fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Dec 23, 2022

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





BuckyDoneGun posted:

It's a tech demo prototype. It's not for competition. They released the customer version at Goodwood, and it's an £820,000 track toy for billionaires. When those guys want track time, they have no problem getting it.

This. It's 2023, nobody's out there building a random car with out-there tech and then deciding to go racing with it. If you want to go racing in an existing series, you build to that series' ruleset.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I'm forever mad that this was in the era long before I had a smartphone, but there was once a Fiat 600 running around here with a SBC crammed in the front.

It had similarly-sized rear drag radials on it, and a super-narrow Ford 9" that was just welded to the frame. "Rear suspension" was entirely sidewall flex.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Darchangel posted:

Oh, yeah, Old-school pushrod V8!
5.8L would be a Ford 351, yeah?

"Period representative" but otherwise unnamed 5.8L V8, yeah, that feels like a 351. Especially given how tied up Lotus was with Ford at that time.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Applebees Appetizer posted:

[e] Dale Jr is a great ambassador for motorsports, he loves all of it

The rare combination of someone with some unique privilege, and the drive to use it. Dude literally showed up at North Wilkesboro with the keys to the track and all manner of cleaning implements to restore it into condition good enough for iRacing to scan, and now, for NASCAR to go back to.

He just wants to go fast.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





ishikabibble posted:

I was actually gonna comment, I was surprised he seemed so familiar with sim racing. But huh! Hell yeah, glad he seems to be a decent dude.

He's tied in enough with iRacing that they've literally hidden him somewhere in the spectator areas of every track on the service.

Pro racers have been increasingly sim-friendly over the years but I think 2020 pushed a lot of them over. I would expect that at this point more pro drivers also sim race than not.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Humphreys posted:

You should see videos when he geeks out about drums/videogames or lovely mp3 players.

I literally gave zero fucks about drums until I started watching his videos. They're just fun.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Also, it's a 700R4 (well, 4L60 by 1994 probably). It's a major miracle if they make it to 250k without failing, even with meticulous service.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply