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The block won't leak but all the freeze plugs will
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Elviscat posted:That's not a logically consistent or intelligent thing to say or do. On the other hand, sometimes I need things to break before I can justify fixing it proper. I'm not the OP, I just sympathize with the republican method of maintenence.
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Feb 20, 2021 17:09
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Elviscat posted:That's not a logically consistent or intelligent thing to say or do. No, this is a 67 C10 with a junk small block. Water is more or less free and doesn't cause issues when it leaks. I should also note that this motor is getting replaced and the radiator needs to get hot tanked and repaired.
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Feb 20, 2021 17:36
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STR posted:Uh, you know they were the same car, right? Same factory even. Only real difference was the AC compressor and maybe the radio, IIRC. I'm old enough that I remember an AI chat or something where the password to join was "prismiscorolla" which I thought was funny. It was kind of an AI meme in the early 00s.
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Feb 20, 2021 21:06
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Wrong thread for Prizm talk- they were good get-to-work cars and the one we had served the family for 20 years with nothing more than oil, tires and a dozen door handles. I hope are Prizms all resting in car heaven now. holy poo poo boring though, but would A+++ recommend borrowing mom's when you don't want to ride your motorcycle 300 mi on a rany winter day.
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Feb 20, 2021 21:20
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Boys who love boys
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The episode of This American Life about the NUMMI plant is excellent. https://www.thisamericanlife.org/561/nummi-2015
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Feb 20, 2021 21:29
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Anything I’ve ever done a coolant flush on gets filled with straight water and a bottle of water wetter. It’s good poo poo, if you live in a warm enough climate.
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Feb 20, 2021 21:34
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MrYenko posted:Anything I’ve ever done a coolant flush on gets filled with straight water and a bottle of water wetter. It’s good poo poo, if you live in a warm enough climate. It was cold enough here last week that even 50/50 antifreeze started to freeze. 
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Feb 20, 2021 21:58
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Valt posted:That is basically not possible. You're not just protecting the block (altho once your freeze plugs begin to weep, the block will always be problematic) Water pumps corrode, Radiators, Heater cores. And of course weakening the cooling system can lead to a sudden catastrophic engine overheat. Coolant is cheap insurance.
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Feb 20, 2021 22:35
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Feb 20, 2021 22:36
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Powershift posted:It was cold enough here last week that even 50/50 antifreeze started to freeze. I wish I could trust anything as much as he trusts that set up
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Feb 20, 2021 22:39
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:You're not just protecting the block (altho once your freeze plugs begin to weep, the block will always be problematic) Water pumps corrode, Radiators, Heater cores. And of course weakening the cooling system can lead to a sudden catastrophic engine overheat. Not to mention coolant acts as a lubricant and seal conditioner.
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Feb 20, 2021 22:41
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I've run straight water before but only temporarily, like waiting to fix a leak, I won't bother putting coolant in until I fix it. I can see doing it to an old truck with a lovely motor that leaks and is eventually getting replaced, who cares.
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Feb 20, 2021 23:38
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This isn't "what brand/weight of oil is the best?" where there's room for debate, this is "should coolant have coolant in it?". Put the fluid that's supposed to go into the hole into its hole
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Feb 20, 2021 23:44
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There's plenty of room for debate, as in I don't feel like putting coolant in my POS so i'm not going to? If it's significant leak why bother especially if you don't give a poo poo about the motor
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Feb 20, 2021 23:55
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If the owner openly says they don't care, why the does anyone else seem to care at all?
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Feb 21, 2021 00:01
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slidebite posted:If the owner openly says they don't care, why the does anyone else seem to care at all? In this case it's a junk motor, so whatever. But a lot of people don't know any better, so this was a conversation.
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Feb 21, 2021 00:07
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monsterzero posted:Wrong thread for Prizm talk- they were good get-to-work cars and the one we had served the family for 20 years with nothing more than oil, tires and a dozen door handles. I hope are Prizms all resting in car heaven now. holy poo poo boring though, but would A+++ recommend borrowing mom's when you don't want to ride your motorcycle 300 mi on a rany winter day. Prizm's were an unappreciated national treasure. It's a Corolla without all that pesky resale value.
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Feb 21, 2021 00:22
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It's his truck he can do what he wants with it, there's no need to shame him because he chooses not to put coolant in it lol
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Feb 21, 2021 00:22
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Applebees Appetizer posted:It's his truck he can do what he wants with it, there's no need to shame him because he chooses not to put coolant in it lol Also I totally understand and anything that is a real car gets coolant in it for all of the stated reasons. The cooling system in the truck involves a $15 water pump and a leaky radiator. I occasionally back flush the radiator out to make sure its not plugged with crap. I take care of my vehicles that don't have $200 craigslist motors in them.
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Feb 21, 2021 00:41
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Applebees Appetizer posted:It's his truck he can do what he wants with it, there's no need to shame him because he chooses not to put coolant in it lol No one is being shamed. Goons are rightly pointing out the reasons why running straight water is not a good thing to do even on a car yoi dont care about. Its moreover a false economy - running coolant will cost you less in even the shorter term and keep the beater more reliable. Posters can ignore advice but has that ever ended well?
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Feb 21, 2021 00:51
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coolant is like $4/gallon why are you even doing this
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Feb 21, 2021 00:57
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Gotta be honest if I wasn't going to fix the leaks I'd feel a lot better about dripping water all over the place vs coolant.
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Feb 21, 2021 01:02
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:No one is being shamed. Goons are rightly pointing out the reasons why running straight water is not a good thing to do even on a car yoi dont care about. Its moreover a false economy - running coolant will cost you less in even the shorter term and keep the beater more reliable. My man, this is a SBC that I paid $200 for. I live in texas where it very rarely gets cold enough to worry about anything freezing with the exception of this week. There is no cost happening here, the water pump is metal and costs about $15 also the truck gets driven about 3k miles a year. A bit of rust in the system is not going to hurt anything for the amount that it gets driven. This is all extremely basic stuff. Its not like putting water in it is somehow going to destroy the truck or the motor (unless it freezes, which is why I addressed it). **Edit** I just thought it was silly I had to go stand out in the 10 degree weather with a torch to unfreeze the stupid motor. **Edit 2** Not that it matters much but my heater core is not hooked up in the truck. Since the blower motor is dead / full of squirrel nests. Valt fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Feb 21, 2021 |
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Feb 21, 2021 01:11
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Valt posted:I just thought it was silly I had to go stand out in the 10 degree weather with a torch to unfreeze the stupid motor. I had to do that with the first nice car I ever owned. Got it from a used car dealer and it had coolant in it but it was so lovely that it froze. Was like 2 months after I bought it too, fuckers. Yea wasn't shaming just I had the freeze plug thing happen to my $150 cl 283. It's full of rust and right after I took it out to regasket/paint it the freeze plug under the starter blew out from rust and with long tube headers it was a bitch to change.
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Feb 21, 2021 01:19
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Throatwarbler posted:coolant is like $4/gallon why are you even doing this Sadly it's up to $10 as a minimum, average maybe 13 here. Really sucks when you're filling a system!
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Feb 21, 2021 01:43
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:No one is being shamed. Goons are rightly pointing out the reasons why running straight water is not a good thing to do even on a car yoi dont care about. Its moreover a false economy - running coolant will cost you less in even the shorter term and keep the beater more reliable. But he wasn't asking for advice he was just telling a funny story  Valt posted:I just thought it was silly I had to go stand out in the 10 degree weather with a torch to unfreeze the stupid motor. I got it and I laughed if it's any consolation 
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Feb 21, 2021 01:45
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Well, luckily it wasn't food enough to crack poo poo on you. That's a bad day.
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Feb 21, 2021 02:21
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 Posting this full size so you can marvel at the fine details, and the fact that it's all just wood and house paint.
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Feb 21, 2021 02:40
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And plastic splash blocks for gutters! I love it!
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Feb 21, 2021 02:58
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Applebees Appetizer posted:It's his truck he can do what he wants with it, there's no need to shame him because he chooses not to put coolant in it lol I post in a thread about shaming people for their bad car decisions.
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Feb 21, 2021 04:20
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MrYenko posted:Anything I’ve ever done a coolant flush on gets filled with straight water and a bottle of water wetter. It’s good poo poo, if you live in a warm enough climate. The one time I used Water Wetter (on an LT1 4th gen Z28) my water pump spring a huge leak like a month later (killed the Optispark too) and I've been afraid to use it again ever since. Water pump failures were really common on the LT1 anyway, but still. It only had about 30k miles on it when it failed.
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Feb 21, 2021 04:58
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Radiant heating.
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Feb 21, 2021 05:01
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StormDrain posted:Radiant heating. Is that running off the heater core? That kinda rules.
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Feb 21, 2021 05:08
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Memento posted:
It looks like a Powermaster Transformer, the ones that came with a second little robot that changed into an engine that attached to the vehicle mode. There was Autobot called Slapdash in that toy line.
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Feb 21, 2021 06:02
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Memento posted:Is that running off the heater core? That kinda rules. Except it's probably PVC, which has a max temp rating of 140f. 
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Feb 21, 2021 06:10
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MRC48B posted:Except it's probably PVC, which has a max temp rating of 140f. Yeah I was mostly joking, but at least it would be easy to change parts out when it inevitably starts leaking. If the problem is "this Minnesotan winter can suck my taint" and the available budget is $no, then that's something I probably would have done as a teenager.
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Feb 21, 2021 06:24
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Q_res posted:Prizm's were an unappreciated national treasure. It's a Corolla without all that pesky resale value. I have a 95 Corolla and for expensive poo poo like factory service manuals, I just get the Geo version because it's like 1/5 the price. Thanks, Geo.
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Memento posted:Is that running off the heater core? That kinda rules. It might suck in the summer, unless there is a 3 way valve to flip to bypass. You know the AC doesn't work in that car, so you couldn't even counter act it with cold air.
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