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Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Can we talk bluegrass in here?

I just love most all bluegrass, and especially some of the contemporary people playing very traditional grass.

I saw Michael Cleveland a few months ago an he blew my mind. He's mostly blind and probably one of the best fiddle players to have ever lived. Here he is playing with Doc when he was a kid-he's only gotten better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrYxk5g8peQ

These guys just won 'Best emerging artist' or whatever at IBMA and they're stellar and fit my idea that bluegrass is best played by large people with goatees:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SWWUpuon_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv5w3MeknnI

Despite being a heathen, I love some good bluegras gospel. Not their usual banjo player but he's great, whoever he is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI5UWtzKe-0

And a friend's band that's getting out there. They play with Tyler Childers a good bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcSagt1DcrM

My favorite of Ralph Stanley's lead singers who died too soon (in like an actually Hatfield and McCoy family feud), Roy Lee Centers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj5OC2nzFuA
Singing lead there, on what is one of the finest bluegrass albums there is.

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Dr.Caligari
May 5, 2005

"Here's a big, beautiful avatar for someone"
I’ll check out those links when I get home, but I’ve found myself enjoying bluegrass more in the past year. What started it was getting free tickets, and nothing else to do one night, I went and saw The Grascals . I had never heard of them and assumed they were some local group, but turns out they are pretty popular and the one guy even hosts on Sirius Bluegrass Junction. They played a really great show and it made me reconsider the genre.

Anyway, I couldn’t name many artists yet , but I have been making a point to catch NPR’s Bluegrass Ramble and I’ve also been catching shows by 7 Mile Bluegrass, a local group.

It still feels like it is some what of an acquired taste, but I really appreciate how little the sound has changed over the decades. I think this also gives it an air of nostalgia, even if you are new to it. The lyrics and method of singing can really carry emotion, and also frequently carry remanences of a time past adding to the nostalgia

I’m also working my way through Bill Malone’s Country Music, U.S.A., which is really rounding out my education and appreciation of it. It might be in the OP, but that book should be a required thread

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

Trampled by Turtles y'all :q:

CurvyGoonWife
Jun 12, 2018
A favorite bluegrass artist of mine is Abigail Washburn. She studied Mandarin in college and lived in China for a while, so her music is traditional-sounding American bluegrass with the occasional Chinese lyrics or instrumentation thrown in. It’s pretty effing cool, and she’s continued to be a huge activist for US-Chinese relations and cultural exchange throughout her career. She’s also married to Béla Fleck, for some added bluegrass bona fides, and they have been recording together a lot in recent years.

Song of the Traveling Daughter is the first album of hers I fell in love with. Worth checking out.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


DogoDogo posted:

A favorite bluegrass artist of mine is Abigail Washburn. She studied Mandarin in college and lived in China for a while, so her music is traditional-sounding American bluegrass with the occasional Chinese lyrics or instrumentation thrown in. It’s pretty effing cool, and she’s continued to be a huge activist for US-Chinese relations and cultural exchange throughout her career. She’s also married to Béla Fleck, for some added bluegrass bona fides, and they have been recording together a lot in recent years.

Song of the Traveling Daughter is the first album of hers I fell in love with. Worth checking out.
She was in a mighty fine Old Time string band called ‘Uncle Earl’ who were great. They did some different stuff with real traditional songs/tunes and had stellar fiddle players and a great twin fiddle sound.

https://youtu.be/nuNY876GJLg

https://youtu.be/ay2ql55qWq4

https://youtu.be/EgegmaJO03c

I actually got into bluegrass via old-time music. I played clawhammer banjo and when I moved I couldn’t find anyone that played old time so I started going to jams with a bunch of old guys that played bluegrass and old country and had been for 60 years.

It’s definitely a music that is infinitely better live and in person-somehow all acoustic instruments that dont plug just sound better, and the improvisation that happens on breaks live is really great. There’s a real jazz and blues influence in that regard. Most bluegrass bands don’t ever record half the old Bill Monroe and Stanley Bros. stuff they stick in at live shows too.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Since moving to Ontario years ago I've been shocked by the amount of talent in the folk (which includes country and bluegrass) scene up here.

Ashley Robertson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92SheIMkb-o

April Verch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvNXfw4S_VQ

Annie Lou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt41BUlwpbI

That's just me looking at the top of my playlist.

I've posted them before but the duo Pharis and Jason Romero out of northern BC are incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmkkDW8EY7o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSu9p85S4AY

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Lutha Mahtin posted:

Trampled by Turtles y'all :q:

Trampled By Turtles ain't so much bluegrass as a bunch of bros trying to hit strings faster than each other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kPRyzb9Z44

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

yeah, I've seen those guys break multiple strings in a show

old school recommendation: Curly Seckler

https://youtu.be/JkPfp0fdiI0

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Haven't seen her mentioned, but Gwenifer Raymond's debut is good stuff, if you like minor-key instrumental banjo/guitar/mandolin.
https://tompkinssquare.bandcamp.com/album/you-never-were-much-of-a-dancer

In truth, I think she'd be best served making a good country band into a great country band, but good luck with that in the UK, I guess.

mr.dandelion
Apr 9, 2009
I've been enjoying Gwenifer Raymond, thanks for that.

Colter Wall's new album is out now. He has an unbelievable voice. I think I heard about him via this thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrIUdXrRZuY

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

mr.dandelion posted:


Colter Wall's new album is out now. He has an unbelievable voice. I think I heard about him via this thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrIUdXrRZuY

I'm not sure I like this new album. It sounds way too clean and polished and "traditional" for lack of a better word, compared to his previous material. His voice sounds different too.

I'll have to give it some more listens.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



His new album is much more traditional outlaw country than wrist-slitting TVZ style country

Paper With Lines
Aug 21, 2013

The snozzberries taste like snozzberries!
I saw Trampled by Turtles at the MN State Fair this year and it was basically blue grass speed metal.

also, Turnpike is coming here (to MN) in November, and the tickets were supposed to be 25 but they got all bought (some by scalpers) and are being resold for 70 each. Who would have thought Turnpike was popular enough in MN to get noticed in this way.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


Paper With Lines posted:

I saw Trampled by Turtles at the MN State Fair this year and it was basically blue grass speed metal.

Let me tell you about Split Lip Rayfield.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ut2dMUAPjk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRSzCizqbrc

HenryJLittlefinger fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Oct 22, 2018

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

am i doin it right :v:

https://youtu.be/U_Z-qSNlgCo

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Since it’s about time to get spooky, how about a Honky Tonk Halloween
https://youtu.be/dA8merRnRjU

Tias
May 25, 2008

Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund
Need some good runaway tunes, in the vein of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN3-1btTb7Y

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-R-CdBYVyU

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

I'm at night one of Greensky Bluegrass's annual post-Thanksgiving home stand at the Kalamazoo State Theatre (always raging shows and a hell of a good time), and they just did a cover of The Chain that blew me away. Out of all the jamband influenced bluegrass acts out there, Greensky is IMO the best.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


howe_sam posted:

I'm at night one of Greensky Bluegrass's annual post-Thanksgiving home stand at the Kalamazoo State Theatre (always raging shows and a hell of a good time), and they just did a cover of The Chain that blew me away. Out of all the jamband influenced bluegrass acts out there, Greensky is IMO the best.

A few years ago I would have argued that Leftover Salmon holds that title, but after a few too many of Vince Herman’s formulaic faux-zydeco word salads I’m with you. Those dudes are very tight and not sloppy like a lot of the other jamgrass bands. I think Infamous Stingdusters may be a little more in the traditional direction when that need arises.
Jealous you’re seeing them, I’ve been wanting to for a while since they got big and polished.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

HenryJLittlefinger posted:

Jealous you’re seeing them, I’ve been wanting to for a while since they got big and polished.

I'm super spoiled when it comes to Greensky. I was only able to see them twice this year, and that's down for me, but that's what the nugs.net subscription is for.

There were a couple tapers at the show last night if you don't do the nugs.net thing.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Went and saw a friend's band last night and they busted out this classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAaAGTFGxWQ

me your dad
Jul 25, 2006

This guy appeared on my Discover Weekly Spotify playlist today. I thought it was a good track. I've never heard of him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pna_rH-TDIo

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
My wife has gotten into Kacey Musgraves lately, so I'm buying her all her previous albums. I'm not usually into mainstream poppy country, but she's charming and talented. "Follow Your Arrow" is a clever little song with a good message and a cute video, and "High Horse" sounds a lot like Jenny Lewis, who we're both huge fans of. I'm sure I'm the last to discover her, especially in this thread.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
She's got some good stuff. The latest album is a bit on the pop side but she's very good with lyrics and hooks.

This is some of her older songs but I like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p01MwVSgr4

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I hate Christmas music but I really like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjUl6TkZ8os

kuddles
Jul 16, 2006

Like a fist wrapped in blood...
Kacey Musgraves (and her husband) is part of the better "new country" artists by a long shot.

Choom Gangster
Oct 29, 2006

Tyler Childers and his Sludge River Sideshow tonight here in Louisville, should be a good one.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Can anybody recommend any country music - from whatever era, I don't mind - which uses Hammond organ? There's lots of country soul crossover from the 60s I'm aware of but I'm happy with whatever's suggested.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


Wheat Loaf posted:

Can anybody recommend any country music - from whatever era, I don't mind - which uses Hammond organ? There's lots of country soul crossover from the 60s I'm aware of but I'm happy with whatever's suggested.

I think Sturgill uses a bit of organ, not sure if it’s a Hammond though.

Sir Bobert Fishbone
Jan 16, 2006

Beebort
p sure the Flying Burrito Brothers made good use of an organ

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

HenryJLittlefinger posted:

I think Sturgill uses a bit of organ, not sure if it’s a Hammond though.

when i saw sturgill last summer he apologized that his organ player was sick that night. so he at least was touring with some kind of organ at that time

also might mean he's a decent enough dude to give a sick tourmate a night off :frogbon:

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002
Bobbie Nelson plays the organ sometimes but I'm having a hard time thinking of a song it's featured on prominently.

kenny powerzzz
Jan 20, 2010
Whitey Morgan and the 78’s live album has that fantastic Hammond organ all over it.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
My knowledge of country music stems from my love of American soul music. There's a lot of cross-pollination between the genres but I'm mainly aware of sounds coming from country into soul, such as Ray Charles or Percy Sledge's albums from the 60s, stuff from Otis Redding era Stax, or crossover artists like Bobbie Lee Gentry who I got into because of their association with the blue-eyed soul genre.

That's the sound I like best and as far as contemporary (country or country-adjacent artists) artists go, I tend to like stuff like Jason Isbell or Nathaniel Rateliff & the Night-Sweats (I realise it's probably a bit of a stretch to call the latter country; he's more country than, say Eli "Paperboy" Reed or a fair amount of the Daptone stuff). I'm always on the look out for that kind of thing.

My experiences of mainstream country music in the past decade are limited to seeing things on television or hearing things on the radio. That would be things like the time I heard a Carrie Underwood song that I was convinced was a Heart single written by Desmond Child from 1992 until the DJ said who it was, or one time when I was in America and saw a television advertisement for a big country artist's concert which looked like a Queen show from 1981 with all these moving light rigs and pyro and stuff. I'm reasonably well-up of the history of percolation of 80s hard rock / AOR into country music post-Nirvana (Exhibit A: Mutt Lange) but it was bizarre how obvious it was in those instances. Def Leppard power ballads with twangy guitars and twangier vocals.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Love Bites, which was a hit for Def Leppard in the late 80s, was a country song that Mutt Lange wrote in the 70s. They overhead him noodling with it on the guitar one day and asked if they could do it. All I Want To Do Is Make Love to You by Heart is also another Lange song (and loving creepy) but was another hit.

If you listen to any of Shania Twain's stuff it actually sounds like it could be a Def Leppard cover and probably why she never had, or has had a major hit since he stopped producing her. Not saying she isn't talented, she just doesn't have a "song machine" in her corner anymore.

Some of Jerry Lee Lewis' stuff may have may use s Hammond but I can't think of anything off the top of my head.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I've been listening to a lot of the Cocaine & Rhinestones podcast lately. Is it generally well-regarded? It seems pretty well-researched to me.

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

Bonzo posted:

If you listen to any of Shania Twain's stuff it actually sounds like it could be a Def Leppard cover and probably why she never had, or has had a major hit since he stopped producing her. Not saying she isn't talented, she just doesn't have a "song machine" in her corner anymore.

boy let me tellya about being a middle school country boy when shania got big. all of us were so hot for her but of course we couldn't actually SAY this because ew girls cooties

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Off the top of my head, something like "That Don't Impress Me Much" adapts some musical ideas from "Rock of Ages" and "Photograph". I know that "Man I Feel Like a Woman" sounds a lot like one of the tracks from Waking Up the Neighbours by Bryan Adams, which was another Lange production, but I can't remember which one (they already sounded a lot like stuff from Hysteria). I think "You're Still the One" has some characteristics in common with the Bryan Adams single "Thought I'd Died and Gone to Heaven" which Lange co-wrote.

In short, he's a man with a particular style he likes. :v:

BeastOfExmoor
Aug 19, 2003

I will be gone, but not forever.

Wheat Loaf posted:

I've been listening to a lot of the Cocaine & Rhinestones podcast lately. Is it generally well-regarded? It seems pretty well-researched to me.

I repped it pretty hard when it first came out, but I've cooled on it somewhat. It is fairly well researched from what I could tell, but there was also some really weird stuff. Specifically the Haggard episode where he claims to unequivocally prove that "Okie from Muskogee" was written as satire despite tons of evidence to the contrary. Merle claimed it was as he grew older and his politics shifted left, but he readily admitted that was revisionism if anyone pushed back.

I honestly couldn't figure out why Tyler Coe chose this as his hill to die on until he went on a ridiculous facebook rant about how his father's song "N*gger Fucker" was not only not racist, but was actually anti-racist. Then the fact that he really wanted to re-frame someone else's song as being satire made a lot more sense.

Also, it's going on a year since the last episode was released and I have yet to hear anything about the timline for a second season. I understand that he wants to be thorough, but if he intends to cover an entire 75 year era of a genre at this rate its going to take him several lifetimes.

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Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Wheat Loaf posted:

Off the top of my head, something like "That Don't Impress Me Much" adapts some musical ideas from "Rock of Ages" and "Photograph". I know that "Man I Feel Like a Woman" sounds a lot like one of the tracks from Waking Up the Neighbours by Bryan Adams, which was another Lange production, but I can't remember which one (they already sounded a lot like stuff from Hysteria). I think "You're Still the One" has some characteristics in common with the Bryan Adams single "Thought I'd Died and Gone to Heaven" which Lange co-wrote.

In short, he's a man with a particular style he likes. :v:

Yep. He produced Back and Black and then had Def Leppard copy that sound (somewhat) for their 2nd album. But I'm glad he decided to play with studio tricks with them because if Back in Black had unnatural drum sound it would suck.

BeastOfExmoor posted:

I repped it pretty hard when it first came out, but I've cooled on it somewhat. It is fairly well researched from what I could tell, but there was also some really weird stuff. Specifically the Haggard episode where he claims to unequivocally prove that "Okie from Muskogee" was written as satire despite tons of evidence to the contrary. Merle claimed it was as he grew older and his politics shifted left, but he readily admitted that was revisionism if anyone pushed back.

I honestly couldn't figure out why Tyler Coe chose this as his hill to die on until he went on a ridiculous facebook rant about how his father's song "N*gger Fucker" was not only not racist, but was actually anti-racist. Then the fact that he really wanted to re-frame someone else's song as being satire made a lot more sense.

Also, it's going on a year since the last episode was released and I have yet to hear anything about the timline for a second season. I understand that he wants to be thorough, but if he intends to cover an entire 75 year era of a genre at this rate its going to take him several lifetimes.

That entire album is terrible. I grew up in Kentucky so I've heard it over and over and I can guarantee you that the people buying that record were not doing it ironically. I know DAC is his Dad and all but still.

He also seems to try to be a bit of an Edgelord but he's young.

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