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Frame rate, and internal 3D resolution are both hold overs from designing the game around very specific hardware. A lot of liberties in design and execution were taken with the understanding the game simply was 1024x720, and ran no faster than 30FPS. The latter would probably take less time/effort to patch than the former. Lord knows what strange things might happen to various features, designed on the assumption of 1024x720, suddenly output at many times that resolution. I'm not happy about it, and I would really like to communicate to FROM that this sort of thing only barely flies on PC, but I will simply  . Way I see it, FROM is relatively small, and along with them, Namco is taking a risk on that petition. OK, so they gave us a PC game, and for all intents and purposes, it looks like it will absolutely be no WORSE than the console versions. So you win, FROM. You gave us exactly what we asked for, and then some (DLC). That, I am very happy about.EDIT: Yeah, that vvv Provided, From will have to develop and implement its own scaler code, since PS3, and 360 both sort of have those sort of things integrated into their GPUs for just this purpose, but at the end of the day it should nearly identical. From my experience on a friend's 50" plasma, the game looks great, even with such a meager internal 3D. From did a solid job of making the blurry nature of the output work for them, and aliasing was all but absent. Kiggles fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Aug 23, 2012 |
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NeilPerry posted:I don't know how computers work, so could someone tell me if my PC is fine? I checked canyourunit but it only shows the minimum requirements. Here's what it says: My reasoning Minimum Nvidia is an 8800GT. Your 4850 blows that out of the water. This is probably a matter of what Namco had on hand for quality assurance. So while you're 4850 is inferior to the 4870, this should be a complete non-issue, since the latter has no features that the 4850 does not, meaning it is a matter of raw speed. CPU: EDIT: just noticed you actually had a 3.0 Phenom II X3. So, yeah, you're JUST below the minimums, but it may literally be nothing more than a matter of what Namco's QA department had available for testing.
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PS3 with Motioninjoy or 360 would probably be bestAttention Horse posted:Someone on the Steam forums posted some screenshots of the PC Version. Just like I thought, it looks like blurry pixelated dogshit. So you're saying it is exactly what we were expecting, a direct port? I can live with that.
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NeilPerry posted:I think it's good that they're getting some experience with PC developing. Now that they know they have a PC market as well they'll know to make a PC version of whatever comes next right away. This is my rationale for just biting the bullet. I know the game is loving awesome thanks to my friend's 360, and for all intents and purposes, we're getting the exact same game, but on PC. I see the port as a gesture of good faith. Could be better, to be sure, but at least it isn't any WORSE than the console release (Resident Evil 4, I'm looking at you). Right now, I just want them to know there is an audience on this platform in the hopes of seeing more FromSoftware on PC. From is exactly the sort of developer I believe could benefit from self publishing. Hell, Namco isn't even releasing physical media in NA.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Is anyone NOT using the resolution fix and running at 1920x1080 or something? I don't even intend to use it, since I'd be running it on my TV anyway, so when people report bad performance or bugs is it always because of that? I'm not, and while I'm not having severe performance issues, I have encountered the odd slow down. Hydra is a good example. Have yet to explore Blighttown. I expect more of the same there.
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So I am vaguely aware of how 2h weapons works. First it basically multiplies your STR by 1.5, which can not only allow you to effectively meet base requirements at little early, but it also contributes to damage scaling. But does it also add any sort of damage bonus aside from the bonus strength? If so, what is the math? I have always been fuzzy on that part.
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Been helping a few people in Parish. Gravelord sword can take it out the boss in four attacks. Do the math. I think I am going to try cruising around in human form whenever I intend to make progress. If I hollow while grinding or whatever, then that's cool, but while clearing parish waiting for summons there were signs all over the place. Hope the community is lively enough to support that in most every area of the game.voltron lion force posted:In addition to those bonuses, two-handed attacks simply do about 2/3 more damage than one-handed attacks. Thanks. Xuuel posted:Can someone spoil me where to access the new stuff? I must be bad at google or something, because I can't figure it out. DLC Beat tweedle dee and tweedle dumb, then go to where Dusk of Oolicile is. Should be the cove behind the Hyrda.
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Scissorfighter posted:I did search for the word "window" through the thread and didn't see anything about a borderless windowed mode. Look up an auto hotkey script that will set the selected window to whatever fullscreen borderless resolution you want.
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Aug 24, 2012 09:27
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redmercer posted:Considering I'm not half the graphics rear end in a top hat the average PC gamer is, I'm pretty happy with how it looks. The only thing it really needs is "QUIT TO DESKTOP". Alt+F4. Just wait for the fire icon in the top right to blank after using the "Quit Game" option.
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Aug 24, 2012 19:19
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Azraden posted:Just like when I played the PS3 version, the first boss that really gets me stuck, despite people saying he's one of the easiest is (Depths boss spoilers) Gaping Dragon. I'll try. Gamertag BaDogKiggles.
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Anyone around the Depths willing to give me a hand? I'm SL29, built for speedy close-ranged combat.
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apophenium posted:Anyone around SL25 wanna take on Gaping Dragon? A few of us already have signs near the fog door. Look for a shirtless dude, with a 2h.
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Mindblast posted:DS newcomer trip report here:..I don't suppose blood stains stay after logging out? I don't wanna go back there Mindblast posted:Last thing: Did Twin Humanity really just give me 2 humanity and thats it? I browsed the other items and thought that it may be a trinket to increase spawn rate or something.  )
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Awesome. That is exactly what I was hoping for. Unless (DLC armor spoiler) it does not upgrade, in which case it is spectacular garbage, but it otherwise looks like the standard knight set
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Additionally, you should be able to hear other players actually fighting bosses when you are standing right outside the fog doors.
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Aug 25, 2012 06:36
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EBT posted:If we are doing cool stuff trivia the entire game world (outside of one zone) is a single cohesive world with no overlap or geometrically impossible maps what area? ash lake?
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Can someone further elaborate a little on the summon mechanics? I was under the impression I would be unable to coop after beating an area boss, but I just encountered a Sun Bro who has the "What is it" gesture, which is obviously unavailable until after the boss in question. There is the possibility of New Game+, but I doubt it. Basically what I am asking is, can I continue to coop in an area whose boss I have already killed in my worlds? I am aware (under the impression) I can not be invaded after killing an area boss, but this is where I thought summon signs would be ineffectual as well.
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Wow, I was cooping it up on blighttown, took a break, and now there isn't a summon sign to be had. I am definitely human. Anyone want to come lend a hand? I'm just hanging out by the ground level bonfire. Anyone 27+ should be fine.
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melon man posted:Nah, I'm good now. Is it just me or is the summoning system on the PC even wonkier than on the consoles? It isn't just that. I can almost tell when my luck will go to poo poo. If you log on, and places where there SHOULD be poo poo-rear end-tons of orange soap markings, there are none, you can probably expect to fail summoning everytime. If there is soap everywhere, will, it still isn't a guarantee. Someone may have not allowed access through their firewall, or haven't properly configured ports, but there probably will not be issue on GFWL side. Maybe just confirmation bias, because there have been a countless times my summon sign faded, couldn't replace it, and fog gates went up, which I assume means I am being summoned, but it fails. Then again, there have been other times, where I did not place a sign, and fog gates went up, but I imagine that is an attempted invasion that failed to connect. Anyway, seems like you either have no problems, or you have ALL of the problems. There seems to be no inbetween.
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Infinity Gaia posted:Well that will teach me to explore. No. Also, consider yourself fortunate, because the first part of the Great Hollow, is getting down. If you hit the bonfire, you ALSO have to make your way all the way back UP. Personally, I find down easier, but all the same, unless you are really invested in exploring that area, I can not recommend anyone going that way, except for the purposes of exploring. There are rewards, but the place comes with enormous risk, not the least of which is falling and losing your souls/humanit.
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Anyone available for "Chaos Witch"? I haven't seen a summon sign in literally an hour, but I hate to kill bosses without some bro-op. Seems like such a waste.GreenBuckanneer posted:How do I set the display resolution to 1920x1200? The game seems to only display 1080p :| The game is "locked" to 16:9. You will always have letter boxing.
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Cactus posted:So does that mean I can't change the height in the config file of the fix to 1200? You can change that, but it will not effect the output, except improved vertical detail. So, say you have a lot of horizontal lines, you are less likely to see a lot of stair stepping on those, compared to vertical lines, because there are more lines of resolution, which are then "squished" to fit 16:9, but the video card will STILL render all of that so the final product will not look squished. In other words, changing that value will do nothing to completely fill your monitor space.
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Fog doors completely rape my system. I have no idea what the poo poo, but it is making bosses unnecessarily and there is no telling just where these things start rendering, so out of nowhere, for no (apparent) reason at all > 15FPS. Coming down the stairs after Chaos Witch, and I couldn't tell just why in the world I was getting crap frame rate, but then I went into the next area and it dawned on me it was the boss door for Endless Evacuation. Lo-and-behold, as when the boss door clears, so did the framerate issues associated with it. Using the res patch only exacerbates the problem, and and areas that use the Chaos Flame texture (see, those ugly huge bug things in blighttown) would cause my system to chug. Interestingly, it seemed to cause all the same frame rate issues of the PS3/360. Unfortunately, even without the res patcher, Blighttown is still a blight. It is only marginally less terrible, which may explain why I was having such difficulty summoning in the area. That sub 30 FPS disconnect "feature" was probably what was botching connections. Pure speculation, though. I really hoping this game sold well enough to encourage Namco to finance a patch to address this stuff, because even 30FPS on my machine is a joke at 720, and even if it is a matter of making the particle shader SLIGHTLY less complex it might make all of the difference in the world. Interestingly, performance is basically 40% of my GPU, and 30% of my CPU. I can understand things on the CPU may be about timing between various threads, but even with the res patcher, GPU load never exceeded 60%. I don't know what in the world is going on, but it is damned unfortunate. /rant Game owns, though. Just wanted to get that off my chest since I'm past blighttown.
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OK, so I'm trying Iron Flesh, and enemy attacks are bouncing the gently caress off of me. I do not remember enemy attacks bouncing on 360, but I also did not really use it much. Can anyone let me know if this is new or just the way it has always been?
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Sputty posted:Is there any chance of a patch to fix some crashing issues or is the game being pretty much abandoned from here on out? I can't find a fix to the crashing problem anywhere. Just wondering if I should try to get a refund through Steam The game is out all of two days. We have no idea where support is going from here. Considering the game made Steam's list of top 10, I would personally shoot for seeing regular patches in the future. I see part of the reason Namco bit (pushed) for the port is they do not have to pay anything for Quality Assurance in order to patch their software. Quite literally, the PC version is going to the testing grounds for all of the balancing/bug fixing that will be rolled into the console DLCs, so Namco does not have to pay through the nose in order to support their games on those platforms (speculative. I'm not saying this with any authority. It just makes sense to me).
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Maybe this isn't new, but I figured out why the "water wheel" in blighttown causes so much slowdown. The dog's pathing AI is trying to figure out how to get off the treadmill 
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Rookersh posted:So grind slimes then? I would grind slugs, in the swamps. They drop Green much more frequently, and when they do, they drop FIVE at once
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Dr. Carwash posted:Is there a solution to the DSfix for optimus nvidia cards? When I use the resolution fix DS refuses to use my nvidia card and instead accesses the lovely intel integrated graphics chip (meaning DS is an unplayable mess). I've tried forcing DS to use it in the Nvidia Control panel but it doesn't work. Funny you should ask http://blog.metaclassofnil.com/ There is a version specifically for (testing) Optimus systems. Can't verify it works, but is otherwise exactly what you are looking for. Besure to contact the guy with your experience so the changes might be rolled up into the normal version point releases.
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^^^^ Try the knights in Anor Londo. They telegraph, but no so much that it is exactly easy. Would definitely recommend them over the little Warriors in the 'Burg, since they tend to have really unpredictable timings. The Knights are at least consistent. Ah ha. I just realized how much of a dick Fromsoftware is. Catacombs spoilers Immediately defeating pinwheel and moving on int Tomb of the Giants, there is actually a bonfire... except it isn't a "bone" fire, just sort of camp that explorers (the band of Clerics?) used on the way down. That said, for anyone whom has basically completed all of the normal game content can you tell me if there is a functional warp point in tomb of the Giants?
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Nahxela posted:The only annoying thing is that when it lands, she sometimes decides it's a better idea to use her catalyst's R2 instead of nuking it with spells. Hate to be that guy, but I always thought that was the best part. It's like the aesthetics value of armor. Something that makes you chuckle in a boss fight is worth the cost. Verviticus posted:So I pissed away my four cracked red eye orbs invading people that all coincidentally had a ridiculously overstrong friend escorting them through the game but it was kinda fun to do anyways so - how do I get more of these? It looks like the npc that sells them is really far into the game so is this just a case of "here's a thing you might find fun. Don't do too much of it now!" After the fight everyone was talking about the for the last couple of posts, you will encounter an NPC that will sell them. Heads up, do not give a special item to Frampt before you do this. It will happen through dialog, so don't worry about what you end up feeding him.
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Covenant Spoiler Will the Chaos Coven shortcut remain open if I break the covenant? I'm sitting here with a crap ton of humanities after bro-oping and wondering if I shouldn't just spend them on this covenant.
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Nah. Confident I didn't miss the other. That's the answer I was looking for though. I'm gonna start dumping these humanities... this is going to suck.
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Since the DLC will be a while before it hits consoles, and changes are likely to be made between then and now. I'd say to just be patient. I mentioned it earlier in the threat, but I suspect Namco is using the PC release as a trial ground for balancing/bug stomping to avoid paying out to MS/Sony for patches to the DLC on consoles. So yeah, even if we had a list, expect additional changes before the DLC is released.
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Does anyone have any recommendations for suckin' humanity with that covenant item? I'm sure I could get much better results just killing people, but that wouldn't be nearly as fun.
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Cinroth posted:Parry and then do it. homeless snail posted:Hope you find someone who's AFK and just keep on sucking. Bonus points if they have that infinite humanity trainer. Nope. They just roll away, after the strike trigger a full half second in advance. They will even take damage from the "attack", it just doesn't trigger the sweet sweet humanity grab. It just needs to be a teeny tiny bit faster... guess they might need to make humanity easier to come by, but I have some ideas to make that work, and we're talking about vague overhauls of the network, so I'm just venting. I did get one AFKer, though. 
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AlternatePFG posted:I installed DSFix but for some reason the game is still letterboxed for me. Is that normal? Nunez posted:Does anyone have a good build suggestion for a dodging/backstabbing character, possibly with magic options? Look into Ring of Fog, and Slumbering Dragoncrest Ring. Alternatively, you can go the magic route, and learn Hush, and Hidden Body, or any combination of the above. Should be noted, that Ring of Fog and Hidden body apparently stack, but I haven't had much experience with it. Keep your weight under 25%. It can be almost impossible to strafe behind some enemies unless you have the fastest movement speed. Hornet Ring is a good bet, as well. Just don't wear it all of the time. Just swap to it when you know you will need the additional damage. Definitely go for a thrusting sword of some sort. They have some sort of hidden critical multiplier, so even those their crit bonus is listed as 1.3, compared to a bandit knife's 147, they will still gain more bonus damage. Recommended, since you will be using a fast weapon, look into Magic Weapon. The damage bonus is flat, so a weapon with lower stamina cost will generally get more mileage. You need something like 25 INT for CMW, and you can just use Oolicile's Catalyst for a tiny bit more damage (also very little weight). It isn't the best, but a very good option for when you can not take advantage of backstabs or reposte.
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Infinity Gaia posted:By the way, quick question related to the Chaos Servant covenant: Yes, you must obtain and place the key item, because the passage that is unlocked is immediately beyond the gold fog door, but immediately before the following grey fog door.
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ropa posted:I always save a bone for when I kill the bug That does not help if your bonfire checkpoint is in blightown. vv I understand that. I'm just clarifying for the guy who was wondering how much blightown remained in blightown. Kiggles fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Aug 28, 2012 |
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VisAbsoluta posted:For people saying it's a good port in the last few pages because they can run it in 9000x6700, I dunno. I have a reasonable setup (HD5770, Phenom II X4 955BE, 4GB of DDR3) and I have very unstable FPS with the lovely graphics of the default resolution (not using Durante's fix) in 1600x900, which is very annoying. Lots of people with the same trouble too, mostly in AMD cards. I created a profile for the game yesterday and the little I played after seemed improved, although it could be a placebo effect. This doesn't seem to be a GPU issue, unless your card is regularly going back to 2D mode (try forcing some AF through the CCC). What DOES seem to be the problem is a CPU bottleneck. People with AMDs at ~3ghz will experience halved framerates whenever there are heavy particle effects, such as fog gates. Users have reported that "simply" overclocking their CPU to near 4ghz addresses those issues entirely. Just as a quick example, I can drop the internal resolution to literally nothing. Lower than the default 1024x720, and if I look at double stacked fog gates, like you encounter in the Chaos Witch, or Firesage arenas, 15FPS. Turn the internal resolution to, or even beyond my native of 1920x1080, and performance is fine, EXCEPT in those same exact situations of double stacked fog gates. So we're clear, I have the same CPU, and am ati 4850. If anyone with the same CPU but an Nvidia GPU wants to give us a trip report, that would be pretty rad. HOPEFULLY, since performance issues are roughly limited to one effect (particles), a fix MAY be possible, since addressing it is likely to address issues for a great majority of users. Everything else is just a matter of being more explicit with simple stuff in the code. Stuff like ensuring the primary GPU is used on Optimus systems, or GPUs are switched to 3D mode. Probably just wishful thinking, however. My guess is, whatever obnoxious performance hog of particle code they have will remain that way, even if something like reducing precision might also help smooth framerates on consoles... god, I hope there is a fix. 
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Doniazade posted:Went back to the Undead Asylum unspoiled at SL 20. Stray Demon happened. If you want, go back, quickly grab your souls, and immediately die, without 10 seconds. Your bloodstain should sit just "outside" the boss room. Do this if you ever encounter bosses that are clearly beyond you. Just do not be in a rush. If you rush, you will make mistakes, and mistakes mean death. Die before reaching you bloodstain, and you know the rest. So just patiently back track. It's 30K souls. It is worth your time TRYING.
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