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I am also interested in some kind of introductory course to poker, specifically 6-max No Limit Texas Hold'em. I've very quickly read (and am re-reading while taking notes this time) Phil Gordon's Little Green Book, and am about to read Harrington on Cash Games, Harrington on Online Cash Games, and Ryan Fee's Guide. I've also am going through Jcarver's videos, reading some on the 2+2 forums, and reading a couple of poker magazines the casino gives out for free. I am trying very hard to absorb all this information, but I still can't beat .2/.4 No Limit. I had a bad day yesterday and lost 2/5ths of my bankroll, but even on a good day I usually just break even. I know my play is bad, because there are so many ideas going through my head in the 25 seconds I have to make a decision that I just can't keep track of everything I think I should be keeping track of, it's information overload. It gets to the point where I just whip out a starting hand chart (which I got from a 2+2 post: http://www.sendspace.com/file/q6xj5l can someone comment on its quality?) and try to wing it as best I can. I started using Poker Tracker about 1.3k hands ago, and while I am starting to find some of the hud information very helpful, it only adds to the confusion most of the time. I think I'm just lacking in the basics and trying to learn too much too fast, but I don't know where else to start.
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Playing 2 cent 4 cent on a site call juicy stakes is depressing.
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Sep 30, 2012 03:03
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Loosing on that site makes me feel depressed and stupid.
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Sep 30, 2012 03:12
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Happy Placidity posted:lots of words I think you are reading a little too much and not playing enough. You can't just cram a bunch of books into your head and then put them all into action at once. Read a book, get some concepts down, and then put them into practice. Also your sample size is very small so even if you are winning at nl4 you could still be losing after however many thousand hands you have played.
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Happy Placidity posted:I am also interested in some kind of introductory course to poker, specifically 6-max No Limit Texas Hold'em. I've very quickly read (and am re-reading while taking notes this time) Phil Gordon's Little Green Book, and am about to read Harrington on Cash Games, Harrington on Online Cash Games, and Ryan Fee's Guide. I've also am going through Jcarver's videos, reading some on the 2+2 forums, and reading a couple of poker magazines the casino gives out for free. I am also a beginner, so please take everything I say here in that context. I think if you can lose 2/5 of your bankroll in one day, you are playing too high stakes for your bankroll. I know there is a lot of advice out there about how big your bankroll needs to be compared to BB or buy-ins or whatever, and a lot of it doesn't agree: but especially with no limit, where your entire chip stack is potentially at risk in every hand, you need to be able to absorb a long string of losses just due to variance regardless of your skill level. If your skill level is low, you need an even bigger ratio of bankroll to what you're risking in any given game. I would also say that, at least for me - and this may also be a controversial thing to say - it was very useful to play for play money for a few months. OK, yes, a play-money game is an entirely different game than one for real money, because humans behave very differently when they feel they have no risk. So your starting hands, raise amounts, how much you get called, etc. are all wildly different for play money games. But: one thing you DO get with play money, is a chance to practice thinking about what to do quickly. For example, I needed (and still need) practice quickly calculating pot odds and (especially) implied odds. Doing this without the pressure of having my bankroll at stake allows me to relax and just do it over and over and over, no pressure, and if I screw it up I don't have to be angry with myself. Another thing I needed (and still need) practice at is recognizing the kinds of draws a given flop represent. I still sometimes notice a flush draw there without recognizing a straight draw, especially gutshot straight draws. This is another thing you can practice at a play-money table. You don't want to learn bad habits at play money tables, but if you focus on those things that are true of any no-limit hold'em game regardless of stake, you can maybe get better at handling the fast action. When you go back to cash games, you can focus on the things that you haven't been able to practice yet, without having to divide your attention or concentration as much trying to add up how many outs you have, what your implied odds are, or whether your two pair could possibly be facing a straight. Again: I'm a noob, so I hope a more experienced guy will correct me if my advice is poor.
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Phil Gordon's little green book is ok for absolute beginners but don't waste your time taking notes on it. Watch jcarvers videos, play, rinse and repeat. Watch eating cake too.
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The best part is her online handle is ilikebeingsmart 
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Blinky2099 posted:Watch jcarvers videos, play, rinse and repeat. Watch eating cake too. The ones on youtube or does he have others?
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Sep 30, 2012 18:59
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Yeah the youtube series
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I'm just starting to get serious about PLO so have started donking around at NL2 for a bit. http://www.pokerhand.org/?6469450 Villain is a spaz and my small 3-bet on the turn is to setup a river shove as I have the absolute nuts (although I do think my raise should have been a bit bigger to give him a better price to call on the river) but when the 9 hits I'm almost certain I'm losing to quads the way the hand played out. I've only played about 5k hands so if I'm just being a goddamn nit, just say so and I'll move on but I thought it was such a gross spot.
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vampire posted:I'm just starting to get serious about PLO so have started donking around at NL2 for a bit. Seems odd to play a NLHE game if you want to learn PLO 
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There' a lot of kinda grey ethics within poker etiquette. I'm wondering, is it considered just generally uncouth to ask someone for staking?
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olin posted:There' a lot of kinda grey ethics within poker etiquette. I'm wondering, is it considered just generally uncouth to ask someone for staking? Actually on that note, if getting money together to bid on a kickstarter is acceptable then staking is too. Keep it to this thread, and as usual SA assumes no responsibility for money you give someone or what they do with it when they have it! Happy pokering.
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olin posted:There' a lot of kinda grey ethics within poker etiquette. I'm wondering, is it considered just generally uncouth to ask someone for staking? No, people ask for stakes all the time. Also I've been trying to get ahold of you on IRC cause last time you pmed me a bunch of stuff and i had to run and I ain't seen you since!! vampire posted:I'm just starting to get serious about PLO so have started donking around at NL2 for a bit. Man this is a really lovely spot. If he had 66 he can't stack off with us anymore unless he's just braindead. And honestly I can't think of anything besides 9x that plays the hand this way. I think I just ch river like a drat nit and puke when he shows 66KK or something MY INEVITABLE DEBT fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Oct 1, 2012 |
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I think you should definitely call and lose to 9xxx ~75% of the time. e:Actually it's plo2 so he can have a wider range and you definitely need to call. AARO fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Oct 1, 2012 |
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Oct 1, 2012 19:17
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MY INEVITABLE DEBT posted:I think I just ch river like a drat nit and puke when he shows 66KK or something Don't we still win in that case, since Jacks full of Nines beats Nines full of Kings?
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Seems odd to play a NLHE game if you want to learn PLO MY INEVITABLE DEBT posted:Man this is a really lovely spot. If he had 66 he can't stack off with us anymore unless he's just braindead. And honestly I can't think of anything besides 9x that plays the hand this way. I think I just ch river like a drat nit and puke when he shows 66KK or something olin posted:I think you should definitely call and lose to 9xxx ~75% of the time. Nifty posted:Don't we still win in that case, since Jacks full of Nines beats Nines full of Kings?
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Nifty posted:Don't we still win in that case, since Jacks full of Nines beats Nines full of Kings? He meant puke when he didnt bet with the best hand.
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Oct 1, 2012 19:57
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Nifty posted:Don't we still win in that case, since Jacks full of Nines beats Nines full of Kings? I read it the same way (the wrong way). This is the difference between good poker players and bad poker players. I puke when I lose hands. Moose pukes when he doesn't get max value.
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Unless we think hes gonna be shoving with worse I think check calling shouldnt be on the table. If we shove we can get called by worse, and always pay off the 9. If we check call we can get checked behind if he has worse and always pay off the 9. (having said that I check call cause i suck at taking my own advice, and its a gross spot indeed)
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There isn't really a general discussion thread anymore but I just wanted to say gg to Max Silver for his 16th place finish in the WSOPE main. (I can't remember his SA name here)
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Big Poppa posted:There isn't really a general discussion thread anymore but I just wanted to say gg to Max Silver for his 16th place finish in the WSOPE main. Goodeh. Unlucky dude, two pair is usually good!
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mfcrocker posted:Goodeh. Unlucky dude, two pair is usually good! Yeah. I was crossing my fingers that Goodeh would win all the morrisons.
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Teppec posted:morrisons
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*Live Poker Post* I am playing the WSOP-C Re-Entry event this weekend at the horseshoe Hammond. Any of you degenerates going to play in it? Or is anyone familiar with the shuttle service from downtown chicago? Is the shuttle schedule reliable?
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Scumbag casinos. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213888/Punto-Banco-Worlds-number-poker-player-wins-7-3m-2-nights-London-casino-REFUSES-pay-out.html AARO fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Oct 7, 2012 |
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Oct 7, 2012 18:08
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olin posted:Scumbag casinos. Ivey is such a degen. But if he's betting 150k a hand, a 7 mill win at a game with almost even odds is not something entirely outlandish. Baddog fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Oct 7, 2012 |
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Oct 7, 2012 19:27
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Baddog posted:Ivey is such a degen. Yeah that is pretty pathetic... the casino specifically made Ivey agree to put in a lot of hands to try to avoid a hit-n-run from him, then they panic when he goes on a heater. Poor casino 
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Deltron 3030 posted:Yeah that is pretty pathetic... the casino specifically made Ivey agree to put in a lot of hands to try to avoid a hit-n-run from him, then they panic when he goes on a heater. Poor casino  Maybe we should have a collection for them
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 They're burning bridges with Ivey cause he went on a heater. If they had kept him there he probably would have given most, if not all, of it back. I mean a +50 bet heater is nice but not anything super special, given Ivey's history with gambling. quote:
I like how the article drops this "bomb" as if that arouses suspicion of cheating, but it describes her as an extremely attractive Asian woman. I honestly was thinking of an entirely different direction than card cheat when you line both of those facts up.
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Lote posted:I like how the article drops this "bomb" as if that arouses suspicion of cheating, but it describes her as an extremely attractive Asian woman. I honestly was thinking of an entirely different direction than card cheat when you line both of those facts up. Especially given his recent divorce.
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Lote posted:... tee hee hee ! Maturity itt.
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just had this pop into my inbox... "Full Tilt Poker will re-launch under new ownership on November 6th, 2012. The Rational Group, which owns and operates PokerStars, acquired assets of Full Tilt Poker in August 2012 and appointed new senior management to re-open and operate the site as a separate brand to PokerStars, providing the online poker community with another high-quality poker platform. Following re-launch, you will have complete access to your account - including your full balance - and you can once again play on the innovative online poker platform that made Full Tilt Poker home to serious online poker players. This means you'll soon be able to return to the Full Tilt Poker games and tournaments that you've known and loved for years, secure in the knowledge that your experience is now backed by the same account security and game integrity that millions of PokerStars players have trusted for more than 10 years. Full Tilt Poker now operates under a license in Isle of Man, which is among the most trusted and rigorous e-gaming regulatory jurisdictions in the world. The Isle of Man Gambling Supervision Commission maintains vigilant standards for e-gaming, particularly the safeguarding of player funds. Information on these standards can be found here. Since August, we've been carefully reviewing all Full Tilt player accounts in preparation for re-opening. In the coming weeks we will be completing the restoration of all non-US player accounts including yours, in preparation for re-launch day. What this will mean for you: normal access to your Full Tilt Poker player account with your current password renewed access to all Full Tilt Poker real and play-money games access to your total balance without restriction, including withdrawals We thank you for your patience during this time. We will update you further as re-launch day approaches. For more information please see our Full Tilt Poker account FAQ. In the meantime, we welcome your feedback and ideas to help make Full Tilt Poker your number one poker site - please click here to visit the feedback page. Sincerely, Full Tilt Poker"
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quote:Dear <ftp name here>,  $600 I thought i'd never see again  Edit: drat you Shane!
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Anyone here playing xcom?
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hey guys, as some of you know me and a whole lot of goons have gotten together to train WSOP final tablist russell thomas for his big day at the end of october. we've been filming the training since the start and we finally released the first episode today. i'm pretty proud of how it turned out, let me know what you guys think! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyl_KbHFmQY
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Oct 9, 2012 18:48
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Isn't the Daily Mail a tabloid?
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Really impressive editing on that video. Looks like a film studio produced it.
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:just had this pop into my inbox... This is my birthday. Thanks, Full Tilt Poker.
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JCarver posted:hey guys, as some of you know me and a whole lot of goons have gotten together to train WSOP final tablist russell thomas for his big day at the end of october. we've been filming the training since the start and we finally released the first episode today. i'm pretty proud of how it turned out, let me know what you guys think! Very interesting. Looking forward to when you actually start the training.
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