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AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack


CE Loot table info in 2nd post

Guns. Lots of guns. This, however, is not the Matrix, it's the sequel to Gearbox Software's 2009 FPS RPG 'Diablo with guns' co-op hilarity fest.

Bordergoons Steam group info!
If you want an invite to the Bordergoons Steam group, join the chat and ask for an invite. Don't post endless invite requests.

One of the recent trailers should tell you everything you need to know:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nicvyhrmTDs

There. You can buy the game from various online retailers (Steam, GMG, Gamersgate, Etc.) As well as pretty much every other games retailer out there. Go. Now!
The game is Steamworks, retail copies will need to be registered on Steam. This also means Steam matchmaking, no more Gamespy!

DLC

Season Pass DLC is available on Steam
Season Pass Includes 4 Campaign DLCs (New areas and story missions) and the Ultimate Upgrade Pack (level cap increase to 61).

These 4 DLCs were confirmed to all be campaign/story DLCs. But there's also this: (thanks Redjakk)

Redjakk posted:

They said at the PAX Gearbox panel that Knoxx was their benchmark for all the future DLC but that they didn't have anything set in stone as of yet. Mike Neumann put out a suggestion to the crowd of "Scooter's Scooter Racing - With Scooter!" that got an overwhelmingly positive response and an embarrassed Randy Pitchford hung his head and said that he guessed he'd have to go with 4 DLCs + Scooter Racing.

As of April 2013, Three of the four season pass campaigns have been released. They are:

Captain Scarlett's Pirate Booty - A piratey tale of treasure and, er, pirates. And a mythical Leviathan which probably needs slaughtering. Avast! As well as a story campaign and many sidequests, adds a new vehicle (only available in DLC1 areas), a couple of new Raid bosses, a new currency (Seraph Crystals) to buy powerful (ish) gear from special vendors, and a whole bunch of silly gunning and looting fun.


Mr Torgue's Campaign of Carnage - Do you like EXPLOSIONS? Then this is the DLC for you! Join Mr Torgue's tournament to find the Ultimate Badass to open a newfound vault on Pandora. As well as a story campaign and many sidequests, adds another Raid boss, another new currency (Torgue Tokens), used in Torgue vending machines to buy Torgue weapons. Explosions! Torgue Vendors always sell one (expensive) legendary item levelled to your level. IMO Some of the best humour in BL2 is in this DLC.

DID I MENTION EXPLOSIONS?!

Sir Hammerlock's Big Game Hunt - Join Sir Hammerlock on a manly hunting trip to a new continent! Find new and interesting creatures, and kill them! All while some guy tries to spoil your fun. As well as a story campaign and many sidequests, adds another new vehicle (again only available in DLC3 areas), a couple of raid bosses and some positively ribald humour from Sir Hammerlock himself. There are things that need to be shot, and By Jove you're the one to do it!

"Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep" - Join Dungeonmaster Tiny Tina as she leads three of the original vault hunters through a game of Bunkers and Badasses - a homage to D&D. This DLC has several brand new fantasy themed areas, and at least 10 new types of enemies to shoot at! There's a whole ton of content in here, including some excellent new gear and plenty of humour. I hope you like Crumpets!
PAX Teaser

In Addition to this, Gearbox has thrown the Ultimate Vault Hunter Upgrade level cap increase DLC (3.99/$4.99 seperately) into the Season pass for free. Which is nice.

The Second level cap increase - Vault Hunter Upgrade Pack 2 is not in the season pass but can be yours for 3.49/$5. Increases the level cap to 72 if you own the first increase pack.

Price for the season pass is 19.99 in the UK/$29.99 US.

HeadHunter Packs

These are holiday themed (so far) small chunks of content, all based around a specific boss fight, with a small questline building toward that goal. Each has it's own unique thing going on and they're pretty worth it for the money they cost. ($2/3) So far they are -

Bloody Harvest - Halloween
Wattle Gobbler - Thanksgiving
Mercenary Day - Christmas

Wattle Gobbler gets an extra mention for introducing Grandma Torgue. It's Story time!

DLC Player Classes

DLC CLASSES ARE NOT PART OF THE SEASON PASS
Currently each.

One new player class is available at the moment -

Gaige The Mechromancer - summon a huge robot to smack dudes in the face for you! Also includes a skill tree designed for newer players, and one for "more advanced" players. Combine these two to become an unstoppable overpowered bullet spraying machine. Your milage may vary.

Here's a runthrough of her skill tree -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA1WNt8SoCU

A second DLC class came out 14th May -

Krieg The Psycho - Literally one of the Psychos you meet in the game. Armed with a buzz axe and a love for being set on fire, this guy has a strong melee focus, while also being strong with explosives. There was a short gameplay video showing some of his skills, and a better showcase has shown up now -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khmi49sfecg
He looks awesome.

There are also a bunch of skins and heads which are entirely cosmetic and you probably shouldn't spend money on those.

So Much DLC, when should I play it all? (in relation to the main game)

Captain Scarlett and Torgues Campaign are recommended for between levels 15 and 30 in the first playthrough. Hammerlock and Dragon Keep are recommended for 30-35 in playthrough 1.

The Hammerlock and Dragon Keep DLCs contain spoilers about the plot of the main game. Play them after you beat the main game.

When you play them in TVHM or UVHM matters less, as they all (supposedly) scale to your level in TVHM and UVHM. Scaling seems a lil broken, YMMV.

Sounds Great, but what about PC features? Is it going to be a BAD PORT again?

Hell no. They've done a ton of work adding PC specific options and features to both jazz up the game and make it easier to play for more people.
Gamespy posted a few screens show the various options available on the PC version -

Lots of goodness in there that people were clamouring for.

Also, There are fancy PhysX effects available if you have the right hardware and such -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFkDrKvBRU

I was going to write a chunk about the classes and the guns and the game in general but then they released this new "Introduction" trailer which is everything you could ever need.
Includes token British gent with Monocle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUu-FzRFYZA

Pretty much everything about the original Borderlands has been expanded, improved and fixed, so far as I can tell. I had the pleasure to play a demo build for a while at Rezzed, and it felt incredibly solid.

There's also an Hour-long mostly-gameplay video of the final build which surfaced recently (Maya and Axton). Also shows off the DLC class, "Mechromancer", which is coming shortly after release, in a very unfinished state. A second similar video comes from IGN, showcasing the same content, but played with Salvadore and Zero. There's plenty other gameplay videos out there if you wanna search for them, I'm not linking 85 bazillion videos.

Badass Rank details

When you complete challenges in game (stuff like "Kill 50 Skags" or "Cause 10000 points of fire damage"), you get Badass Rank points which you can redeem for stat bonuses which is profile-wide, and so affects all of your characters.

These stat bonuses include -
  • Maximum Health
  • Shield Capacity
  • Shield Recharge Rate
  • Melee Damage
  • Grenade Damage
  • Gun Accuracy
  • Gun Damage
  • Fire Rate
  • Recoil Reduction
  • Reload Speed
  • Elemental Effect Chance
  • Elemental Effect Damage
  • Critical Hit Damage

When you spend badass points, the game picks 5 random stats and you can choose which to upgrade from those 5. There's also an option to disable the buffs completely if you want to play with a vanilla character. The amount of Badass Rank points you can accumulate is unlimited, so you can keep piling on the bonuses for as long as you play the game.

Bordergoons Steam group info!

"Grab your gun, Bring your friends and set some psycho midgets on Fire."

:torgue:

AirRaid fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Jan 9, 2014

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AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

Useful game info in this post

Gibbed's Save Editor

Get it Here
Gibbed keeps it periodically updated when new data/content becomes available.

Gibbed's Save editor is great for futzing with any value related to your character, including level, loot, quests, currencies, etc.

Here is the information on how to adjust the loot tables for a better chance of loot

Note: This only works on Windows at the current time. No CE scripts for Mac, sorry.

Note: Cheat Engine table modification will work in Multiplayer, provided the HOST has it running. The Host's values will override any client values.

NOTE: The Loot Table Modification DOES NOT TAKE EFFECT until after Captain Flynt, when you arrive in Three Horns!

Basically the odds of hitting a legendary weapon from any given loot source is 200:0.01 in the base game. After much thought, argument and discussion this was decided to be pretty retarded. Happily there is a way around this!

I don't know who made the original post but Kaethela kindly keeps quoting it, and I'm gonna copy his post here.
E: Thanks to Party Boat and bef for the original info/upload.

Kaethela posted:

BORDERLANDS 2 LOOT TABLE FUCKERY
Okay here we go. This is a bit of a faff to do and it does need you to do some stuff each time you play but it's better than spending hours trying to grind out anything better than a blue.

1) Download and install CheatEngine from http://www.cheatengine.org/ (Mirror for version 6.2 HERE)
2) Download this file and keep it somewhere you can find it easily: Borderlands2RarityDrops.cetrainer
2a) Making a shortcut directly to this file on your desktop is the most convenient way to do this.
3) Start up Borderlands and skip through all the logos etc until you get to the main menu (with the camera spinning round your character), then alt-tab out
4) Open up CheatEngine
5) Click on the little computer icon in the top left, you should see a list of running processes. Select the Borderlands 2 one and click Open.
6) Click on the open folder icon next to the computer one. Navigate to where you saved the file from step 2 and open that.

4-6) Open the cetrainer file directly, which will effectively complete the previous steps 4-7 and is quicker and easier.
7) The screen should change to a couple of checkboxes, this is where the magic happens. Check the bottom of the two boxes which should read "Item Rarity/Chances - Enable". You might get a second's hangup as it finds the presets, this is normal.
8) You should now see the default values in the righthand column, here's where you can see how bullshit the game's drops really are. Weight 0-6 is what determines what drops.
9) Click on each checkbox in turn and hit enter to manually adjust the value.
10) Enjoy lootsplosions!

NOTE: LOOT VALUES UNDER 1 NO LONGER WORK PROPERLY, MAKE SURE ALL LOOT DROP VALUES ARE 1 OR ABOVE
This does not affect the "Sensible" preset in the file but will make the "X only" presets do wonky things or not work at all.

You will have to do steps 3 onwards every time you play, but once you know what you're doing it only takes a minute. The presets box has a bunch of stuff to change it back to normal, have only legendaries drop, stuff like that.

I think the settings at the bottom are about how likely an enemy / boss / pile of garbage is to actually drop equipment for different numbers of players. I haven't touched them so I'm not really sure.

Also just so you know the loot tiers* are:

0 VeryCommon = Health
1 Common = White
2 Uncommon = Green
3 Uncommoner = Eridium (this seems to affect both the overall drop rate of Eridium and the chance that a purple weapon is an E-tech one? I'm not really sure)
4 Rare = Blue
5 VeryRare = Purple
6 Legendary = Orange

Have fun, I've enjoyed a couple of hours of low level play using this waaaay more than I did the dozen or so I sank in with Salvador at endgame trying to farm legendaries.

There are a number of theories as to the best values, feel free to experiment. Personally I have settled on 150/100/20/4/6/4/2 as a healthy rate which drops Legendaries rarely but noticably, and blues/purples are reasonably common.

Once you have settled on values you like, you can edit one of the Presets in the file using a text editor. Here's how -

1) Open the file (notepad is fine, or whatever text editor you like - the file is XML)
2) Scroll down until you find the section which describes the presets, you'll see a section of numbers seperated by commas enclosed in curly brackets, looking something like this -

NOTE: LOOT VALUES UNDER 1 NO LONGER WORK PROPERLY, MAKE SURE ALL LOOT DROP VALUES ARE 1 OR ABOVE
This does not affect the "Sensible" preset in the file but will make the "X only" presets do wonky things or not work at all.

code:
Presets =
 {
  ["Revert All - Original"]		      = {200, 100,  10,    5,    1,  0.1,  0.01},

  ["Preset 1 (Legendary Only)"]               = {0.001, 0.001, 0.001, 0.001, 0.001,   100, 10000},
  ["Preset 2 (Purple Only)"]	              = {0.001, 0.001, 0.001, 0.001, 0.001,  1000, 0.001},
  ["Preset 3 (Blue Only)"]	              = {0.001, 0.001, 0.001, 0.001,  1000, 0.001, 0.001},
  ["Preset 4 (Eridium Only)"]	              = {0.001, 0.001, 0.001,  1000, 0.001, 0.001, 0.001},
  ["Preset 5 (Green Only)"]	              = {0.001, 0.001,  1000, 0.001, 0.001, 0.001, 0.001},
  ["Sensible"]	                  	      = {150, 100, 20, 4, 6, 4, 2},
  ["Preset 7 (Health Only)"]	              = {1000,  0.001, 0.001, 0.001, 0.001, 0.001, 0.001},

  ["Preset 8 (Legendaries 5x more likely)"]   = {200, 100,  10,    5,    1,  0.1,   0.05},
  ["Preset 9 (Legendaries 10x more likely)"]  = {200, 100,  10,    5,    1,  0.2,   0.1}
 }
3) Pick a preset to modify (In the example above I have already written over the "White Only" Preset), and edit the numbers. The numbers are in order of the Loot Tiers as described above, Health White Green Eridium Blue Purple Orange.

NOTE: LOOT VALUES UNDER 1 NO LONGER WORK PROPERLY, MAKE SURE ALL LOOT DROP VALUES ARE 1 OR ABOVE:siren:
This does not affect the "Sensible" preset in the file but will make the "X only" presets do wonky things or not work at all.

4) If you want to change the name of the Preset you've modifed, Change the text within the quotation marks to the left of your modified numbers. The preset name is stored once elsewhere in the file as well, you MUST change both values so they match. The other value is near the top of the file, in sections that look like this -
code:
              <CheatEntry>
              <ID>15</ID>
              <Description>"Sensible"</Description>
              <Color>80000008</Color>
              <VariableType>Auto Assembler Script</VariableType>
              <AssemblerScript>[ENABLE]
[DISABLE]
</AssemblerScript>
            </CheatEntry>
5) Save the file. If you've done everything right it'll load up. If CE crashes when you open it, you probably messed up the names, double check them.
6) Open the file as normal when BL2 is running, and Hit Enable -> Presets -> Your Preset. You'll no longer have to modify each value by hand.

7) :torgue: LOOTSPLOSIONS?!? :torgue:

SECONDARY NOTE: The original file requires CE 6.2 but it's only a version check which can be removed in the script, like so -

PoopinClumpin posted:

Just a little thing I found that might reduce the headache of using the Cheat Engine .cetrainer file advertised in the OP.

Since you're probably going to open the file up in a text editor to set up the "Sensible" drop rates anyway you may as well also just delete the part shown below for the check on Cheat Engine version 6.2.

Find and delete THIS SECTION only

line 290 of .cetrainer file posted:

code:
if (getCEVersion==nil) or (getCEVersion()~=6.2) then
  messageDialog('Please install Cheat Engine 6.2', mtError, mbOK)
  closeCE()

This file works perfectly well with the newest version as of this post (6.4) and the check was probably only put in to make sure people weren't running an older version than 6.2. Unfortunately, also forcing them to not run a newer version after 6.2. Once that check is removed, this .cetrainer works fine in 6.4.

Note: Cheat Engine table modification will work in Multiplayer, provided the HOST has it running. The Host's values will override any client values.

Someone Make MADE a Mr Torgue smiley! :torgue:

Other Stuff -

Class Builds

Struggling on how to spend your skill points? Here are some build for various characters to give you some ideas.

Maya

AirRaid's lvl61 build
Basically Ruin is the most important thing. Converge pulls stuff towards the phase, and then Ruin slags them ALL. I use a Legendary Siren mod to boost the top skills by 5, giving some great damage boosts.


Zer0

Solumin posted:

First attempt at making a Zer0 build.

Melee Zer0
Zer0's Bl00dshed tree focuses on buffing melee damage to astronomical heights. His action skill, Decepti0n, provides a bonus of up to 650% damage to melee attacks, which can be raised further with other skills, Strength relics, and Roid shields.

Basic Build - Level 31
Bl00dshed: 26 points
The point of this build is to chain together melee kills using Many Must Fall. Most of the skills focus on buffing melee damage one way or another, but there are some variations possible with this tree.
- Be Like Water: Considering that you're focusing on chaining melee kills, Be Like Water can be pretty lackluster. However, it can work well if you pair it with, say, a Jakobs shotgun and make sure you alternate between melee and gun attacks. This is a viable strategy when you're working towards Many Must Fall. Alternatively, just put the points into Killing Bl0w. Don't put them in Grim, since that skill makes Roid shields less useful.
- Resurgence vs. Like The Wind: Resurgence is a somewhat useful skill. Until you have the Law & Order combo, you have no real way to heal yourself. A fully spec'd Resurgence with a class mod is a great source of healing, which frees you to use other weapons such as the Rapier. I suggest speccing into it, since you may not always be able to depend on the Order shield. Once you do, the bonus provided by Like The Wind will be more useful. It's triggered by Execute attacks, too!

From here you can branch into either the Sniping tree or the Cunning tree.

Cunning Bloodshed - Level 57
Bloodshed: 26 points; Cunning: 26 points
The Cunning tree adds a few more sources for melee damage and some utility skills. The important thing is Death Bl0ss0m, which can potentially slag enemies and applies Death Mark. The last few skill points can be used to flesh out the Bl00dshed tree a little bit more.

Bloodshed Sniping
There's nothing really to say about this build, and I'm not going to link it. Pick whatever skills you want in the Sniping tree and pick up B0re. It'll let you see critical points. Thing is, this tree doesn't work well with the melee-focused build we have going here. You're much better off going into Cunning and grabbing Death Bl0ss0m.

Gear
Ninja Class Mod: Up to 52% Melee Damage bonus. Skill bonuses are Backstab, Killing Bl0w, and Resurgence. If you don't plan on using Resurgence, a blue +6 Killing Bl0w/+5 Backstab Ninja class mod is the way to go. Otherwise, a purple +5 KB/+5 Back/+5 Resurge is better.
Legendary Hunter Class Mod: The Legendary Hunter is a great class mod. The skill bonuses (+5 to all Tier 1 skills except 0ptics) are worth putting 1 point into those skills. The red text gives you a 10% health back each time you use Decepti0n. With the cooldown rate the mod provides, you're going to be in and out of Decepti0n constantly.
Strength Relic: Sheer +Melee damage. While Execute is technically a melee override skill, it doesn't have any cooldown and doesn't benefit from the relic's second bonus.
Law & Order: +100% Melee damage revolver + High-bonus Roid shield? Health restored on each melee attack? Hell yes! Bonus: The Law is 100% accurate when scoped.
Rapier: Highest melee damage bonus gun at +200%. This is going to be your main weapon once you get your hands on it.
Love Thumper: Incredibly high roid damage with a really long recharge delay. However, the explosive novas can hurt allies.



I'll post more as I get them.

I got a Pink Gun, What the hell is this?

Loot Rainbow!

Left to right: White, Green, Blue, Purple, E-Tech, Orange (Legendary), Pearlescent, Seraph.

Missing: Cash and Health. If you don't know what cash and health look like or are for, then you are beyond help.


White/Green/Blue/Purple/(E-Tech)/Orange is the standard Loot rainbow. Pearl gets added if you have the UVH Upgrade Pack, and Seraph items are only available in the DLC areas, either from Raid boss drops or Vendors who only take Seraph crystals (dropped from Raid bosses).

What do the pretty colours do?

White through to Purple is purely a factor of rarity, and is a rough guide to the "quality" of the weapon. As a rule, Purples will be better than Greens. Actual stats are also dependent on the level of the item.

E-Tech guns are normal guns hopped up on Eridium, and have new and interesting projectile effects. Try them out!

Legendary, Pearlescent and Seraph items are the ones that do the craziest, weirdest, and sometimes, most useless stuff. They will have red 'Flavour text' on their item card, like so:


The Red text is usually a reference that mostly doesn't mean much in the context of the gun, but you can look up what your fancy new Soul Stabber does at the BL Wiki page for Unique Weapon Effects. Some Blue guns will also have red text, these are "Uniques", and have similar extra effects.

Gun Parts info

Neo Helbeast in the console thread posted these awesome images of what the different gun parts look like, and the effects they have. It's a neat visual check to see what the various fiddly bits are doing on your new sweet loot.


There is also a Thread on the Gearbox forums detailing all the effects of the parts and their effects on the weapon name.


If you want an invite to the Bordergoons Steam group, join the chat and ask for an invite. Don't post endless invite requests.

New steam group has been started, updated the link.

SAVE FILES AT THE START OF TVHM

I've grouped together (Okay, cloned with the save editor) some saves at the end of PT1. They are all level 32, with some half decent gear, and TVHM completely untouched.

Here are the save files. And a list of which is which -

Save0011 - Axton
Save0012 - Zer0
Save0013 - Maya
Save0014 - Salvador
Save0015 - Gaige
Save0016 - Krieg

These have all sorts of skins unlocked, but nowhere near all. You might find you have extra skins unlocked if you loads one of these up.

Use at your own risk, etc. There will be some weirdness with the character model on the menu screen not changing sometimes, but so far as I can tell it doesn't affect gameplay at all.

Also, CJacobs made some Level 5 starter saves if you really don't want to go through the Intro section again. Find those here - http://www.mediafire.com/download/g...arter_Saves.rar

Shyfted One provided a link to some BL1 save files for those guys that lost/don't have them any more and want sweet sweet hats heads.
These saves go into Users\<user>\My Documents\My games\Borderlands\Savedata.
If you're using WinXP still, it's just My Documents\My Games\Borderlands\Savedata.

AirRaid fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Aug 9, 2014

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010





Nap Ghost

Can't wait to try out the classes this time, interesting that they've shifted the melee focus away from a berzerker class and more towards the sniper class.

Hakkesshu
Nov 3, 2009



Is Gunzerker the only class that can dual wield? 'Cause that seems like a thing that I would want to do.

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

Yeah Gunzerker is the only dual-wielder. (unless you count Axton dual weilding turrets ) It's not as overpowered as you might think, but it can turn you into a bandit murdering shredder with the right equipment.

ButterChugger
Oct 12, 2007



After the horrible launch of the first one, I think I'm gonna sit back and wait a month or so and see what happens.

ButterChugger fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Sep 1, 2012

Glenn Quebec
Oct 30, 2005

That's because our downstream reality reflects an upstream case but I'm going to violate it.

Pre-ordered with Greenman gaming when they had that sweet 40% off thing going on. I loved the first one, even on the PC. (Or despite it I should say.) I'm eagerly waiting to play this bad boy 4-players with my friends. I hope they work something out that was better than the last when dealing with level gaps. If I was something like 5 or so levels ahead of my friends they didn't seem able to hurt poo poo.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'


Clever Betty

I loved the first Borderlands - had that on the 360 and played the hell out of it. This time around I'm in a Steam 4-Pack, and I've avoided most of the hype so far. But I've watched a few videos now, and I'm hankering to play badly. I'm gravitating towards Axton (I mostly played Roland the first time around), but of course Salvador looks awesome too...

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me


AirRaid posted:

Yeah Gunzerker is the only dual-wielder. (unless you count Axton dual weilding turrets ) It's not as overpowered as you might think, but it can turn you into a bandit murdering shredder with the right equipment.

I like how the Gunzerker has a skill that increases your damage while dual wield is on cooldown.

Is there a character that makes shotguns as awesome as Roland made them in Borderlands? I love shotguns, and hope they either don't make any with the fixed spreads like some of those in the last game, or they allow them to be affected by accuracy bonuses. Getting an awesome shotgun only to find that you miss with half the pellets because they're fixed into an arbitrary shape was a dick.

something
Aug 1, 2011

Have you ever seen
The most pure look of delight
On a Babby's face?



Pillbug

Lotish posted:

I like how the Gunzerker has a skill that increases your damage while dual wield is on cooldown.

Is there a character that makes shotguns as awesome as Roland made them in Borderlands? I love shotguns, and hope they either don't make any with the fixed spreads like some of those in the last game, or they allow them to be affected by accuracy bonuses. Getting an awesome shotgun only to find that you miss with half the pellets because they're fixed into an arbitrary shape was a dick.

Same here, i plan rolling a dual shotgunning salvadore first thing, and i'd hate it if they pull the same poo poo with shotguns in this game as they did with BL1.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'


Clever Betty

Lotish posted:

I like how the Gunzerker has a skill that increases your damage while dual wield is on cooldown.

Is there a character that makes shotguns as awesome as Roland made them in Borderlands? I love shotguns, and hope they either don't make any with the fixed spreads like some of those in the last game, or they allow them to be affected by accuracy bonuses. Getting an awesome shotgun only to find that you miss with half the pellets because they're fixed into an arbitrary shape was a dick.

I assume Salvadore can make pretty much anything awesome, and I wouldn't be surprised if Axton is the guy with the skill to make shotguns super-awesome.

Cardboard Fox
Feb 8, 2009

[Tentatively Excited]


The Siren was just way too much fun in the original. I couldn't play any other class after trying out the Siren for the first time.

Also, the Soldier turret was kind of average in the original, because of this I rarely deployed the thing after the first playthrough. Judging from the trailer, it looks like they've beefed the thing up.

mr. nobody
Sep 25, 2004

Net contents 12 fluid oz.

That new introduction video with Sir Hammerlock really nails the game, what it's about and why it's going to be fun as hell!

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

something posted:

Same here, i plan rolling a dual shotgunning salvadore first thing, and i'd hate it if they pull the same poo poo with shotguns in this game as they did with BL1.

Salvadore's damage capabilities seem to be related mostly to fire rate. You'll probably do better with high fire rate assault rifles in dual weild, specially with the recoil reduction buffs he also has access to.

Having said that, there's nothing stopping you from busting out 2 shotguns. You could be a veritable murdersaw with a couple oh high firerate shotguns at once.

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

double reply but,

SEASON PASS DLC IS AVAILABLE ON STEAM
Buy it as a gift and store it in your inventory to redeem when the actual game goes live.

IT IS MUCH MUCH CHEAPER IN THE UK, FIND A UK GIFTER IF YOURE IN THE US
7.99/E9.99/$29.99
(I'll help people out with paypal payments if I'm around)

This might be a pricing error, might want to jump on it.

Edit: Oops, typo'd the UK price. 7.99.

AirRaid fucked around with this message at 10:49 on Sep 1, 2012

oscarthewilde
May 16, 2012


I would often go there
To the tiny church there


AirRaid posted:

double reply but,

SEASON PASS DLC IS AVAILABLE ON STEAM
Buy it as a gift and store it in your inventory to redeem when the actual game goes live.

IT IS MUCH MUCH CHEAPER IN THE UK, FIND A UK GIFTER IF YOURE IN THE US
8.99/E9.99/$29.99
(I'll help people out with paypal payments if I'm around)

This might be a pricing error, might want to jump on it.

Actually, I think it might be cheapest in the EU, 9 quid is still more than 10 Euro. And this is probably the first time the Europeans aren't shafted on Steam.

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

My bad, I typo'd. it's 7.99

The Digger
Mar 24, 2001

Digging holes since 1980!


7.99 has to be a mistake, I'm sure in one of the interviews they said the DLC was going to be $10 a piece, making the season pass a $10 saving.

Someone really messed that up, and I thank them for it

THE FUCKING MOON
Jan 19, 2008


If one of you UK goons could gift the Season Pass to me I would be eternally grateful. Just send me a message and we can figure out payment either by gifting another steam game or using Paypal.

Bleusilences
Jun 23, 2004

Be careful for what you wish for.



I see that getgamego have the game for 44$, is it one of those scammy cd-key operation or are they legit?

Priapus01
Oct 22, 2008


Says 23.99 on my steam..

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

Yeah price is fixed now. Still buy it though

oscarthewilde
May 16, 2012


I would often go there
To the tiny church there


Priapus01 posted:

Says 23.99 on my steam..

Ha! I finally managed to beat the system, take that human error!

Deki
May 12, 2008








Lotish posted:

I like how the Gunzerker has a skill that increases your damage while dual wield is on cooldown.

Is there a character that makes shotguns as awesome as Roland made them in Borderlands? I love shotguns, and hope they either don't make any with the fixed spreads like some of those in the last game, or they allow them to be affected by accuracy bonuses. Getting an awesome shotgun only to find that you miss with half the pellets because they're fixed into an arbitrary shape was a dick.

Shotguns were actually good in Borderlands 1? I might have to make a shotgun Roland run sometime before BL 2 comes out.

HicRic
Dec 4, 2006
To disagree with three-fourths of the British public is one of the first requisites of sanity.

Bleusilences posted:

I see that getgamego have the game for 44$, is it one of those scammy cd-key operation or are they legit?

getgamesgo.com are legit. Run by eurogamer I think?

I managed to get in on the 8 season pass too, hooray!

Tezzeract
Dec 25, 2007

Think I took a wrong turn...

Bleusilences posted:

I see that getgamego have the game for 44$, is it one of those scammy cd-key operation or are they legit?

You should be able to get it for 37$ on GreenManGaming with their 25% off coupon. Not sure if it's still valid.

Magman
Jul 23, 2004
Toppling the mighty and denting the hard.

Looks like the coupon code is dead? :/

Fenris13
Jun 6, 2003


The 20% off code ended yesterday, but for 48 hours starting tomorrow there is a 25% off code that should be valid.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012



drat, this game looks amazing. Still gotta finish the first game, though.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup


Pillbug

Is it normal that you cant buy the DLC atm from Steam if you have the pre-order?
Bought the pre-order the day it came out, its listed in my games, but cant buy the Season Pass as it says I don't have the drat game.

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

happyhippy posted:

Is it normal that you cant buy the DLC atm from Steam if you have the pre-order?
Bought the pre-order the day it came out, its listed in my games, but cant buy the Season Pass as it says I don't have the drat game.

You need to buy the DLC as a gift, and store it in your inventory for later. You will then be able to redeem it once the game is out.

The problem lies in the fact that Steam preorders are seperate App IDs, which will be swapped out on release (or preload) for the actual AppID which the DLC is associated with. Until the game launches and you have that proper AppID associated with your account, it won't register that you can buy DLC. So just store it for later.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012



How exactly do I preorder this on Green Man Gaming?

I'm an idiot. I didn't notice the message saying I have yet to activate my account.

Genocyber fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Sep 3, 2012

Magman
Jul 23, 2004
Toppling the mighty and denting the hard.

Thanks for the GMG deal. Getting BL2 preordered for $37.50 is pretty drat amazing.

Fangs404
Dec 20, 2004

I time bomb.

Anyone wanna go in on a 4-pack? I don't mind organizing it.

Voluspa
Mar 17, 2006

HURRRRley

Fangs404 posted:

Anyone wanna go in on a 4-pack? I don't mind organizing it.

Tentatively interested since GMG just refuses any of my payment methods :|

Pen Expers
May 3, 2006



Pillbug

Is there a steam group for this yet or is everyone just using the borderlands 1 group?

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

I don't know if anyone is using a group. I tend not to bother with groups, because I forget they even exist.

BlackLaser
Dec 2, 2005



Pen Expers posted:

Is there a steam group for this yet or is everyone just using the borderlands 1 group?

Someone make a new one. I'm not even sure what group is the correct one from the BL1 anyway.

BlackLaser fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Sep 6, 2012

Skyl3lazer
Aug 27, 2007

[Dooting Stealthily]







http://steamcommunity.com/groups/bordergoons was the BL1 group, I think anyone can invite

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Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.



Fangs404 posted:

Anyone wanna go in on a 4-pack? I don't mind organizing it.

I'm interested in this, if it hasn't already happened by now.

Really happy that this is using Steam though! The original was so painful to play with others.

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