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I think ESPN didn't get enough heat for some of their more half baked 30 for 30's. I hated the Red Sox one because jesus christ, that was so drat recent and also one of the most OVER COVERED sports stories of the past decade. Once Brothers and Tim Richmond: To the Limit both suffered (though the Richmond one to a much greater extent) from the fact that they were done by the official bodies of the respective sport. Once Brothers had far too contrived of an ending and Tim Richmond was a historical white wash. I thought House of Steinbrenner actually was a bit underrated a bit though. I'm not fan of the Yankees but I thought it was an interesting though small in scope view of why people care about the Yankees. I was disappointed in it ultimately because I love Barbara Kopple's work but it just felt truncated, oddly paced, and the fact that George died I'm sure lead to some weird rushes in editing. Also a friend of mine has an opportunity to possibly pitch some ideas to ESPN. What would a dream 30 for 30 be for you?
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There were a few I missed and somehow didn't get around to. I watched Fernando Nation the other night and while its pretty by the numbers I was kind of floored by that Johnny Carson joke. Which was something like "I hear there may be a baseball strike...and Reggie Jackson is already offering Valenzuela a job to be his gardner."
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Sep 17, 2012 08:08
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This is mostly depressing.
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Oct 3, 2012 01:50
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It's not surprising though given how many lovely and unscrupulous people there are out there. I'm not shuttering personal responsibility, but there are a lot of sharks out there.
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Oct 3, 2012 01:52
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Are you telling me you didn't buy a Greg Norman 'Shark' brand hat?!
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Oct 3, 2012 02:10
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Yes the Lingerie Football League.
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Oct 3, 2012 02:27
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CBJSprague24 posted:Good 30 For 30. There was a good point brought up about why universities don't give the athletes they make millions off of a basic financial education. At the same time, you sort of have to roll your eyes at the arrogant ones that were among those that dozed off during the information sessions the NBA/NFL hold to attempt to tell them to be smart with the money. I mean, I was an arrogant teen ager (and I am now an arrogant 20 something). I'd probably be nodding off not paying attention either because I figured I knew everything. I'm in my mid 20's now but I only in the last year or so really started figuring out how to manage my meager finances.
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please respond posted:Just caught a re-air of Broke and it was very tedious, could have been a podcast. And the background music was so repetitive and annoying. Probably the worst 30 for 30 I have watched which is a shame because The U was one of my favorites, and Cocaine Cowboys was really good too. Something about Corben's style and approach has always given off a vibe of amateur hour as far as his graphics packages and other things. It's weird because I thoroughly enjoyed the U and found Cocaine Cowboys entertaining enough. But it just gives off this very cheap vibe for whatever reason. I agree on the level that Broke got a bit tedious. It would have been better off in my opinion if they focused on one or two athletes and really delved in to how they thoroughly hosed up. So many "oh man I want to know more" moments but they're already bouncing along to another anecdote.
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Oct 9, 2012 08:26
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This one sucked. And if you don't care about KU basketball it sucks even more.
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Oct 17, 2012 08:36
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kidcoelacanth posted:So I don't really know where else to post this because it's just one video, so this thread seemed like the best fit. Every once in a while I'll re-watch this video because it's probably one of the best things ESPN has ever done, in my opinion: Haha Lance. Also I like how "am I part of the disease" includes Randy Moss jokingly mooning packers fans along with steroid users and brawling.
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Nov 21, 2012 00:36
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June 17, 1994 is my favorite by a long shot.
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jeffersonlives posted:Once Brothers was really good too. I refuse to believe that. I didn't like it.
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SteelAngel2000 posted:The one about Yankee Stadium was godawful too Which is all the more disappointing because its by one of my favorite documentarians of all time. MUST WATCH June 17, 1994 (My Favorite of the first run) The U The Two Escobars Good No Crossover: The Trial of Allen Iverson Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL? Pony Excess (Though this is too long) Into the Wind The Best That Never Was Winning Time: Reggie Miller vs. The New York Knicks The Birth of Big Air Bad Once Brothers - Everyone seems to love this one but I found it completely unsatisfying and unwilling to push with the hard questions. You get a bogus (force narrative) moment of catharsis at the end in the awkward family meet up and thats about it. A legitimately interesting story that gets a poor story telling) Tim Richmond: To the Limit - From what I learned in the 30 for 30 thread a complete white wash of what really happened. Bullshit again because like Once Brothers (done by the league's in house team) its done by NASCAR films. Four Days In October - Yeah, what I really needed was a retelling of one of the biggest sports events in the last 10 years. Way to really tell a hidden gem of a story ESPN. Straight Outta L.A. - Should have been amazing. Instead it is a hamfistedly forced in to a parallel story of the rise of hip hop and Ice Cube waxing about how cool Silver and Black is. Marion Jones: Press Pause - Another that should have been amazing..instead bizarre and just plain bad. The worst of the series in my opinion. ADDENDUM. POST 30 For 30 ESPN DOCS The magic johnson one was okay, but it felt long. I mostly watched it because the footage from when it happened is the most fascinating. Just the pure shock that you could feel in the press conference and of random clips of people just watching the news. It's why June 17, 1994 is so fascinating. Without voice over it provides a look in to an amazing day. It's pure time capsule. Also in that Magic Johnson one when they show that clip from his tv special where the young girl who has HIV is crying and says she just wants to have sleepovers and be a normal kid and it cuts to the crew on set crying, i loving lose it. soggybagel fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Jul 29, 2013 |
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The worst part about The U and Broke is how cheap the graphics package looks. Yeah, real nitpicky but it just looks like it was all done on imovie in two hours.
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sportsgenius86 posted:and if any of you care, the first volume of 30 for 30 Season II is being released on DVD on Nov. 26 and includes: Unfortunately I think most of those are pretty average.
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Nov 21, 2013 02:00
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I'd love for someone to do a 30 for 30 on the Miami Marlins stadium boondoggle. Reading articles about it just make me laugh and cry. The political fallout around the stadium is the best. Miami is good and hosed. Also great how Jeffrey Loria hosed the Expos and is a piece of poo poo. Would be fun. Just make a Loria hit piece.
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Feb 24, 2014 20:48
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Having seen neither do you think it had to do with the fact that NBC had full access to olympic archives?
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Feb 25, 2014 03:32
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If I recall a hot mic just caught her saying that. I mean, I'm not going to hold that against her. Because it is corny and is a waste.
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Feb 25, 2014 17:18
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They need to make a hit piece 30 for 30 on the 72 Dolphins that simply shows them how they are. Insufferable morons.
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Mar 7, 2014 17:55
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Very interested to watch this. I've heard great things about this doc. I've read a lot about Hillsborough but this should be interesting.
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Apr 16, 2014 00:11
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Really kind of shocking that they used to use pens for fan control. Terrible idea.
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Apr 16, 2014 01:21
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Ha, I recall reading that. It's also kind of shocking how some of the older stadiums in England are just, well, old as hell. I was just at White Hart Lane a few weeks ago and man, the concourses are narrow as hell and segmented by very small doorways. Granted, it's over 100 years old but its not hard to imagine how this type of thing happened.
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Apr 16, 2014 01:32
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Crazy Ted posted:Some stadiums in other countries still use the old-fashioned ones, and they put barbed wire over the top of the fencing. There was a stadium in Africa just a few years ago that had a similar setup and a crush of people happened and yeah you can imagine what happened... Yeah I was going to comment on that as well. When you see crazy loving poo poo go on in stadiums now they're usually in Africa or South America and they still have huge fence barriers.
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Apr 16, 2014 01:33
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This is a great doc. Both for those who know nothing and those who know a lot. I know a decent amount. But it does a great job of setting the stage as well.
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Caging in your supporters and then subdividing them with spike pointed fences is a recipe for disaster.
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Apr 16, 2014 03:55
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Segregated fan sections are fine. They do it to this day in the EPL. But now its usually just a wall of security around the rival fan section.
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Apr 16, 2014 04:17
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They're currently airing the 30 for 30 on Maradona. Well i think its just on his 86 run. I think its only 30 minutes too.
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Apr 23, 2014 00:22
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The Maradona 86 wasn't sad. Melancholy perhaps
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Apr 24, 2014 16:48
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Kid rock sucked so bad. Get eminem or basically anyone. But I really like Bill Laimbeer and I'm glad he got to punk Bird.
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Jul 8, 2014 02:52
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I kind of hate winning time because I hate Reggie miller. So lionizing him pisses me off.
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Jul 14, 2014 02:57
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African AIDS cum posted:Also another one where a New Yorker tells us how cool and special one of their teams was I demand more on how the Yankees healed New York after 9-11!!! Also cannot wait for the Randy Moss one. However if they don't take a huge poo poo on Chris Berman and Joe Buck I'll be annoyed.
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Sep 16, 2014 18:38
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Since it was barely reported on in the US I would love a 30 for 30 on the Lokomotiv plane crash. Both as an examination on the KHL but also on the lives that were lost.
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Hey you guys want home games? How does playing in Puerto Rico sound? You know...very much like playing in Montreal.
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Sep 20, 2014 01:57
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What's this Russian look at the miracle on ice? I didn't see it on their webpage?
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Dec 15, 2014 08:26
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Catching Hell was interesting but it was too long. No reason it needed to be 2 hours long. Gibney has a very distinct style to his documentaries and sometimes it works and sometimes it just feels cheap. I think the most illuminating stuff as others have pointed out is the Bartman footage of him getting escorted out and the interview with the woman security guard who was genuinely moved by the predicament he was in. I didn't need to see the constant break down of what seat he was in and all that.
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Niwrad posted:Another crazy thing about that Duke case is how many of the reporters who were incompetent in their coverage still work for major news outlets today. Goes to show where that industry is today. In fairness, news coverage has always been an absolute mixed bag. There are shining lights of journalistic integrity for as far back as we can see, just as there is awful shithead coverage where corners are cut.
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Your Taint posted:So college and pro level sports fans shouldn't clap for an injured player as he leaves the field? Haha solid take.
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