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Teddybear
May 16, 2009

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This might be a bit tangental but the Leveson report included a section on how the media is perpetually disparaging and demeaning trans* individuals. This includes articles such as this wonderful little shitshow by Littlejohn on a primary school teacher, Lucy Meadows.

http://web.archive.org/web/20121221195332/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2251347/Nathan-Uptons-wrong-body--hes-wrong-job.html

It got pulled down this week. Did Littlejohn have a change of conscience about being an enormous shitstain?

Ah, of course not. Lucy Meadows killed herself after three months of vicious hate mail and death threats.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/zinniajones/2013/03/trans-woman-commits-suicide-after-being-bullied-by-the-daily-mail/

Christ.

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Teddybear
May 16, 2009

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My understanding is that, while as an American you'd only be subject to American libel law under the Securing the Protection of our Enduring and Established Constitutional Heritage Act (which in a rare warm-and-fuzzy way was passed unanimously in 2010 and abbreviates to the SPEECH Act), you might still get done for contempt of court, which is what I would imagine that they would pursue you for.

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

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A Winner is Jew posted:

Wow, yeah they're pretty much hosed. Destroying evidence usually means the judge will direct juries to think of the most damming things that could have been contained in that evidence for which ever side was in possession of them when they were destroyed, then consider it's true. Well that's what happens in the US anyway.

That has to be my favorite rule in American evidence. I don't think it's "the most damning things," though, but it's the most reasonable negative inference. So if it's, say, a case of embezzlement, if you burn your accountbooks so that the prosecution can't access them, the prosecution is allowed to present that as evidence that the accountbooks would have incriminated the defendant.

Then again, I am an extraordinarily bad law student, so I could be talking straight out my arse.

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

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Just have the Americans do it. We don't have to worry about being involved, the political ramifications are moot, and your libel suits are unenforceable here.

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