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thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo


You know what's annoying? People like Nick Cohen talking about how this is all sour grapes and we need to leave the press alone etc. (I think he's done that in the past). And I like Cohen.

I would have thought people like him would LIKE the poo poo cutting out of their profession, but everyone seems to think it's a big cleaning of house where everyone is a suspect.

It's not hard to figure out who is a dick, and who isn't. What have these other "good" journos got to worry about?

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thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo


kingturnip posted:

I remember back while Leveson was still going on, friends saying they wished it was all over, because they were getting tired of hearing about it. If it looks like it involves politicians, lots of people just turn off. Short of making people take a 50-item multiple-choice test before they're allowed to vote, I'm not sure it's possible to force people to pay attention.

Mate of mine yesterday said it was all "theatre" and that nothing was going to come of it.

Tried to explain that the theatre was because it was the first enquiry held with social media and full-time streaming and that the media/public interest was higher than anything before. And that the report wasn't out yet so he should wait.

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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Is Tom Watson a Labour frontbencher now?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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I recognise that name, he does photography for Eye Spy magazine (which is a great read)

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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Oh my poo poo if Sky News is implicated that's massive

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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About loving time!

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo


Brown Moses posted:

The good thing about having all these posts about Southern Investigations and friends already written up is they aren't covered by the contempt of court rules that are now in force after Rees and Marunchak got arrested. Poor David Allen Green was about to publish a detailed examination of them and the Daniel Morgan case and has now had to rewrite the whole thing to avoid contempt.

Is that how it works? You can't be done for anything at all?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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The Chaser are bloody magnificent.

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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YESSSSSSSS!

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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Oh God... that's quite big isn't it?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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But the article says before it was commonplace at NI.

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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As in Rupert knew, or James?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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Do we have a timeline for what might happen after this properly gets out? Are we going to be in for a long, protracted investigation? I hate the slowness of things sometimes

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo


Vomits beans

Is that a saying?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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I thought we all knew the Mail/Dacre were getting a section 13 notice?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo


I'm sick and tired of Nick Cohen ranting on Twitter. I fail to see how any kind of regulation is going to stop exposť journalism. If you have the evidence, go for it.

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo


Hong XiuQuan posted:

If you watch the first episode of Jonathan Creek, the hack journalist in it uses the technique to access someone's phone mail. That's right - it was so widespread in the 1990s that the producers were probably advised by a journo that this was a technique for every intrepid reporter.

Holy poo poo I forgot about that! Also amusing to see both Alistair McGowan and Alan Davies wearing a full Steadicam rig and attempting to look like they knew what they were doing.

Steadicamming is hard.

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo


Political Scrapbook is worth a read today. Couple of things about the free speech network

http://politicalscrapbook.net/

Guto harri is a dick

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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Last night's programme was good, what did everyone else think?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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Oh wow I hope we can download it afterwards. Thanks for the reminder

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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3 more Elveden arrests today:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21058379

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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No chance they succeed, surely?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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4 Mirror journos/former journos arrested over alleged phone hacking between 2003-2004.

Guess who was editor then.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21785103

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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notaspy posted:

Has there been any news on the low cost libel that Leveson wanted?

There was something about the bill being hijacked by a peer and then the story becomes too complicated for me to understand. Help, someone?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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Trin Tragula posted:

Ian Hislop's position on this has always been "we don't need anything new; all we need is for the existing laws to actually be properly enforced; and by the way, why was nobody enforcing those laws, isn't that the real problem?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drpegpSdmks

Which is a point of view that I do have a lot of sympathy for. From 1:00.

He's right, of course, but the inquiry was not just looking at the press doing illegal stuff, but also immoral stuff and ownership, and people forget that.

Why should we have a press that is allowed to print demonstrably inaccurate material that third parties cannot make a complaint about, etc.

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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They do, and they print frequent corrections and letters from complainants.

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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Could be an arrest by appointment?

Also how reliable is that source?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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So nobody got arrested?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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I hope we find out soon The suspense is killing me and I would have liked the MoS to hold off until they could actually SAY something.

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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Everyone's trials will be heard in September

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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And our survey says?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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Is this significant? Floodgates open now? Very damaging financially and otherwise for them in the US?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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This secret recording of Murdoch is starting to get some traction, aye?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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And Channel 4 News tonight I think

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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Remember, he doesn't have to turn up. But it may be bad PR to not.

Also the Met want the tape

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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He's gonna do it! NewsCorp statement suggests so anyway

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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WebDog posted:

Yup, in the first episode. Maddie, a journalist, brute forces her way into someone's answering machine by systematically trying number combinations. It's strongly alluded that this is pretty common knowledge in her trade.

My wife pointed this out when we recently re-watched the entire series and we guessed that for it to be written in it must have been common knowledge. Amazing to look back at it.

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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Tom Watson was on Q&A, the Australian version of Question Time, broadcast on the ABC recently. The episode can be viewed here and the download appears to be non-geoblocked.

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s3818772.htm

He did alright but I think people in Australia failed to see the significance of things. Also those Twitter comments on the bottom of the screen are stupid sometimes.

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

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Leveson is in front of the DCMS right now! Guardian website has a stream.

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thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo


I was about to post the same thing. Surely illegal to possess those?

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