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Another Colorado goon checking in, from the Northern part of the state (Greeley, to be specific). I'm pretty optimistic about the amendment's chances of passing; a large number of people I've talked to are fully in favor of it, and that's people of all ages, careers, social classes, and walks of life. Plus, there seems to be a VERY large effort to get us college students registered to vote (at least at my school, dunno about CU or CSU or others but I'd imagine it's the same there) and I think it's a pretty fair assumption that this amendment will find a lot of support in that particular demographic, even among non-smoking students. Here's what I see happening if it passes: Nothing will change usage-wise. Those who want to smoke are probably already smoking, so although we might see some people try it just because it's legal, I doubt it'll be a big number. Given the DEA's penchant for raiding medical marijuana dispensaries lately, I would expect them to make a show out of carrying out more raids in the first few weeks/months after the measure passes, after which the raids will taper off after the show of force is done. I'd expect that this measure will probably be challenged in court almost immediately, and bounce back and forth in the judicial system all the way to the SCOTUS; in the meantime, I wouldn't be surprised if legalization is in limbo in the meantime, with injunctions and poo poo like that. As for what happens when it makes it to the Supreme Court? Who knows. We'll see. One thing to also bear in mind is that the measure only lays the framework for retail marijuana sales, and each municipality has to draw up their own laws and regulations surrounding its sale; we won't see medical dispensaries turning into retail dispensaries overnight, although I would imagine a fair amount of towns here already have a general idea of what they want to do so it may not take long to see these laws being enacted. The only thing that will change right when it goes into effect (which, from what I understand, is immediately upon the governor declaring that the bill has passed) is that it will be legal for personal possession and consumption in private. I really think the primary goal of these bills is more to stir the waters and get the country seriously talking about legalization; anybody that wants to smoke already does, especially so in states like CO where it's decriminalized and enforcement is a joke. Here's hoping it works! Also, f#a# posted:and Colorado appears to be doing poo poo right: the first $40 million of the excise tax is required to go towards education, Almost. The first $40 million must go to the school construction fund to be used to build new schools. I'd much rather have seen it go directly towards the education budget, and maybe we can work to get that changed later if it passes, but for now I'll take $40 million for new schools over having it just tossed into the general fund. (CO goons, if I'm wrong about anything in this post, feel free to correct me.)
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Ender.uNF posted:Totally incorrect actually. Nullification would be if the Feds said everyone had to smoke weed and Colorado made it illegal to do so. This is absolutely true, that a state can't (or won't) be forced to enforce anti-weed laws. But is there a difference between not enforcing anti-weed laws, and making your own laws taxing and regulating marijuana instead? That's not just refusing to enforce federal laws; that's creating your own laws that, at least implicitly, override federal laws. I think not enforcing federal laws, and creating your own laws contradictory to federal law, are two different things. I'm not an expert on this subject so if someone who is would like to correct me please do so.
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Oct 13, 2012 02:35
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In fact, the amendment contains specific language clarifying that it doesn't prohibit companies from prohibiting marijuana usage in its employees, even in their own private time. Kind of hosed up, but baby steps I guess?  Not to mention the only tests you'd really have to be concerned about are pre-employment tests and accident-related tests. Drug tests are expensive so random unprovoked drug tests aren't common.
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Nov 7, 2012 07:26
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I agree with Xandu...as much as I like the idea of this law in particular, I shudder to think of what kind of precedent it sets. It basically completely reverses the supremacy clause and states that state laws trump federal laws (at least regarding marijuana).
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Nov 11, 2012 07:11
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Salt Fish posted:Does it do that though? What if the controlled substances act is modified to read that 'cannabis is a controlled substance in those states that have not voted to make it legal'. The state law isn't trumping federal law in that case. The controlled substances act would be setting a default condition for states that have not addressed the cannabis issues themselves. That's a good point, one that I thought of right after posting my reply. Here's hoping the legislation is crafted in that way, as I feel like that might also have a higher chance of passing. I also can't wait to see how the "state's rights!!!!" Tea Partiers justify their inevitable opposition to this bill.
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Nov 11, 2012 07:22
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veedubfreak posted:I was amazed that I did not see a single anti-64 commercial. There was even a commercial with a retired cop saying that weed is harmless and cops have better things to do. Now if I can just start getting good bud instead of this crappy stuff. Although it's not really bad, just a whole lot less of it for my money than getting from someone who has a card Yeah, one of my friends said they heard one anti-64 radio ad and another saw an anti-64 billboard but that's all I've heard about, and I myself never saw any opposition whatsoever. The measure went almost unopposed here.
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Nov 15, 2012 22:16
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Install Gentoo posted:There's tons of places in America where you can't buy any alcohol at all, and others where the hours and days are severely restricted. It's amazing how many maps I see that make me love my home state (Colorado) even more <3 Also, it must loving blow to live in KY, TX, TN, KS, MI, NC, or OH as a non-teetotaler  (unless you live in one of the handful of blue counties on this map)
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Dec 9, 2012 05:48
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ChipNDip posted:I call bullshit on the Michigan part of the map. I've lived here my entire life, and I've never heard of a dry county here. You can find hard liquor in the grocery stores. Salt Fish posted:The map isn't really telling you that much. I live in a county marked yellow and I can buy any amount of alcohol at any time from the grocery store except liquor on Sunday between midnight and noon. Fair enough, this map probably isn't the best representation of local liquor laws. For example, you guys live in a mostly-yellow states/counties on this map but can buy liquor in grocery stores; I live in an entirely-blue state and can't buy anything but 3.2% beer anywhere outside of an actual liquor store I still love Colorado though  Especially after election day!
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Dec 9, 2012 06:50
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Okay, guess I was a bit wrong in my initial interpretation of that map. My bad 
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Dec 10, 2012 07:08
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Living in Colorado, I'm actually kind of surprised at just how little uproar there is over this. Amendment 64 still had 45% "no" votes so I'd think there'd be at least some people that would be pissed about it, but no...everyone I've talked to has just kind of taken it in stride, even those who voted against it. It gives me a small, flickering ray of hope 
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Dec 28, 2012 09:29
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Looks like the ball just started rolling a little faster: Hawai'i House Speaker Files Marijuana Legalization Bill quote:HONOLULU, HI Hawaii House Speaker Joseph Souki (D-8) Friday introduced a bill to legalize the possession of marijuana by adults and create a system of taxed and regulated legal marijuana commerce. The measure, House Bill 150, would allow people 21 and over to possess up to an ounce and grow an as yet unspecified number of plants in a secure location. The most interesting part, to me, is the poll in the second-to-last paragraph showing support for legalization at 57%; for some reason I didn't expect support to be so high in Hawai'i even though it's a pretty solidly blue state. Anybody know any reasons I'm missing that this might not have a chance of passing?
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Jan 22, 2013 05:55
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wilfredmerriweathr posted:I may be mistaken, but from what I understand the legality of weed is now part of the Colorado constitution, which means no jurisdiction within the state can ban private possession and consumption by individuals. This is correct. Amendment 64 pretty explicitly says that individual localities cannot make possession or consumption illegal. Amendment 64 posted:(3) Personal use of marijuana. NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER PROVISION OF LAW, THE FOLLOWING ACTS ARE NOT UNLAWFUL AND SHALL NOT BE AN OFFENSE UNDER COLORADO LAW OR THE LAW OF ANY LOCALITY WITHIN COLORADO OR BE A BASIS FOR SEIZURE OR FORFEITURE OF ASSETS UNDER COLORADO LAW FOR PERSONS TWENTY-ONE YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER: Interestingly enough, (a) also lists purchase of up to 1oz of pot as something that localities cannot make illegal, so I wonder if the Colorado Springs law is in direct conflict with the amendment? I'm sure there's some loophole that allows it though.
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Jan 31, 2013 18:45
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computer parts posted:That would be this: The law is in conflict with the amendment, then, because the prohibition on marijuana facilities was implemented without being placed on a ballot on an even-numbered year. Now, whether anyone will actually do anything about it is an entirely different story.
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Feb 1, 2013 06:38
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Having lived in Colorado all my life but never living any closer to Denver than Aurora, I had to look up where Greenwood Village actually is (I pretty much just refer to the entire Denver metro area as "Denver")...however, after seeing where it is and recalling my memories of driving through that area, I agree with the poster above me. Good riddance.
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Feb 6, 2013 19:33
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The way I understand it, Amendment 64 specifies that the state will begin accepting retail marijuana sales cards on - and not before - October 1st. So that's how hard it is.
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Feb 14, 2013 03:15
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As a lifelong resident/native of Colorado, I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around this. Yes, I know Amendment 64 happened, and yes, I know personal consumption of pot was pretty much effectively legal already (as long as you weren't stupid about it) but the fact that actual retail marijuana stores may become a reality still hasn't sunk in. I guess it probably won't sink in until the minute I first walk into a dispensary. And what a glorious day it will be.
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Mar 8, 2013 22:06
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RichieWolk posted:Fine! If we can't tax it, no civil liberties for anyone! How the hell is that even legal? To change the wording of a ballot question after it's been voted on?
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Apr 27, 2013 22:49
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hobbesmaster posted:Colorado is one of those crazy states where the voters have to vote on tax increases. This is a new tax. It has to be voted on by the state at large. I know that, I live here  I'm just baffled at the thought that they can go back and add a provision like that to a ballot measure that's already been voted on and passed. That's like if I were to ask questions in a survey of a bunch of people, then go back and edit my questions after they've already answered them.EDIT: Whoops, never mind. They're not talking about revising the Amendment 64 provision, they're talking about revising the eventual tax ballot question. Silly me.
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Apr 28, 2013 04:22
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wilfredmerriweathr posted:And I don't pretend to know the percentage of skiiers that smoke weed, but I know that it seems to be way higher than that of the general population. As a Colorado native and avid skier, I can tell you that at least among the 30-and-younger crowd, this is more true than you can possibly imagine.
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Jun 10, 2013 18:54
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If y'all are planning on visiting Colorado later this year, don't plan it around being able to buy legal weed. Applications for retail licenses won't even be accepted until October 1st, and whoever handles that is allowed to take up to 90 days to approve the license. Seeing how quickly our legislature has responded to this issue I'd like to think that the first few licenses will be approved within weeks, but realistically, it could take until December or January for retail pot to be A Thing. It may help that the only places allowed to apply for a retail license for the first six months are existing MMJ dispensaries, so when they get their license they can pretty much fling the doors open right away.
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Jun 11, 2013 06:00
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Muck and Mire posted:This is a seriously bad example, going to the next county over to buy fireworks is as American as apple pie I don't have a fancy map to illustrate it, but I can assure you that there are several huge fireworks stores just a few miles North of the Colorado/Wyoming border, right off I-25. Taking trips up to Cheyenne to buy hella fireworks and bring them back to Colorado is a statewide pastime. Although hopefully that won't be the case this year, seeing as how our entire state is a gigantic tinderbox waiting to combust
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Jun 13, 2013 05:35
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NurhacisUrn posted:It is hard to pursue happiness when Crohns disease is ravaging your bowel and you are not allowed to treat your condition with a holistic and therapeutic substance with ZERO addictive properties and no LD50 that is proven to be beneficial. As someone who has been in this exact position, I agree, and can attest that it really does help a lot. I'm probably one of the few people I know with an actual severe medical condition that totally warrants getting a medical card so I can treat it and live a normal life, and I even considered getting one (mainly just to have a reliable place to buy it). But I held off just in case Amendment 64 passed, and welp 
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NurhacisUrn posted:That makes me very happy for you my friend. I used Crohns because I have a friend who suffers terribly from it, so I know how bullshit the western medicine mentality is for treating Crohns. I also know how horrific of a condition it is. I am quite glad you'll finally feel some respite. Well, I'm actually on very powerful immunosuppressants now (the pot only made it bearable, it didn't bring it anywhere near "normal") but I think I can accurately say that my last flare-up would have been several times worse if I hadn't used cannabis to treat the symptoms while waiting for my immunosuppressant prescription to clear and to get the first dose. And I still use it for when the occasional cramp gets through. So it isn't exactly a miracle drug for Crohn's, but it certainly brings it to a point where I can live with it.
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Jul 31, 2013 23:44
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Opening day at Keystone a few years back, I was by myself and hopped on the gondola at the bottom with about five other people. Before the doors even closed they asked if I minded them smoking some bud, to which I said not at all (they offered to let me join in, but I was looking for a job at the time.) They whip out a pre-rolled joint and finish before we get to the mid-load station about eight minutes later; the doors open to allow people on if we have room (we had room for one more person), the liftie leans in, takes a huge couple of whiffs of the interior, and exclaims, "WHOOOO buddy!", turns to the next guy in line, and asks, "Think you can handle this, bro?" to which the guy responds affirmatively and hops on. The other people light another joint and share it with the new guy. I guess the point of this anecdote is that most of the lift operators don't care at all, I've had this kind of scenario happen many, many times. At most they might ask us to do it in the woods rather than on the lifts. Also, every ski area I've been to has had handmade smoke shacks made from fallen trees in the trees between runs (one at Breckenridge was two stories, even!); every now and then ski patrol will tear one down to make a show of force, but for the most part, they're completely left alone. It's really hard to understand the weed culture at Colorado ski resorts until you've been to one, but yeah, it's pretty rampant.
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Holy poo poo. http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=352760 quote:WASHINGTON (AP) - The federal government says it will not sue to stop the states of Colorado and Washington from allowing recreational marijuana use.
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Aug 29, 2013 18:51
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bawfuls posted:It's still a bit vague though. Are they going to give banks and other financial institutions the go ahead to work with these state-compliant businesses? This article from CNN has an admittedly vague paragraph on that topic: quote:The new guidelines don't change federal money laundering rules, meaning that some large banks may still be leery of doing business with marijuana producers and sellers. However, Justice Department officials said there is some leeway for banks to provide services to such businesses, so long as they don't violate the eight priorities being assigned to federal prosecutors. http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/29/politics/holder-marijuana-laws/index.html
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Aug 29, 2013 21:19
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mintskoal posted:Am I the only one here who is OK with those 8 guidelines? I mean replace the word marijuana with alcohol, tobacco or whatever else and it still seems pretty reasonable. That doesn't work with "preventing marijuana possession or use on federal property", although I can understand that one as it's still illegal according to the federal government. Nope, I'm perfectly fine with the 8 guidelines as they all also fall squarely into line with the individual state laws. In a way, it'll kind of be the Feds enforcing the state's laws, as opposed to the other way around.
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Aug 30, 2013 02:06
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Yeah, I know several people here in CO that voted for Romney, and for Amendment 64. Most of them don't smoke (at least not anymore) but knew plenty of people who do, and saw no reason to vote No on it.
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I don't hate other states, I just feel sorry for them because Colorado is obviously superior 
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Oct 30, 2013 05:16
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Colorado approved the pot taxes today. T-minus two months (ish) till we have pot stores. Life in the Centennial State is good. 
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Nov 6, 2013 05:50
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Apparently, there will be a grand total of 8 retail marijuana stores opening on New Year's Day, along with 30 growers and four infused product manufacturers...although it looks like many many more will follow shortly after. http://www.9news.com/news/article/370604/339/Pot-sellers-prepare-for-Jan-1 9news posted:DENVER - Denver will begin issuing retail marijuana licenses to businesses. EDIT: Upon re-reading the article, it's not entirely clear (to me) whether there will be 8 retail stores statewide, or if that's just in Denver. I'll keep looking. The Maroon Hawk fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Dec 27, 2013 |
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TenementFunster posted:Just Denver. A complete list of entities issued a license in time for Jan 1 operation will be posted by 5pm MST here: http://www.denvergov.org/businesslicensing/DenverBusinessLicensingCenter/RetailMarijuana/tabid/445028/Default.aspx Gotcha. Since this is on the City of Denver's website, I assume this map won't include anything outside the Denver area? (I'm in Greeley and trying to figure out if anyone up here will be open on the 1st; at least one dispensary in town has been issued a license but hasn't said if they'll be open on the 1st or not)
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TenementFunster posted:hahahahaha sorry pal but Greeley and the rest of Weld County (and practically every other red county in the state) banned retail sales the second they could. you'll have to make the drive to Denver for the foreseeable future. Fort Collins doesn't even allow it yet. check that second link I posted. notice how 90% of the list is Denver, and the rest is predominately ski towns? Wait, the list of approved recreational retail shops (in your second link) shows two in Garden City, which is right next to Greeley (one's actually listed in Greeley for some reason but it advertises as being in Garden City, don't know why) and Garden City is in Weld County. It also shows one in Fort Collins. You're right that Greeley did, though. And that one's pretty recent... EDIT: I guess those ones could've been issued state licenses, but not municipal ones, since you have to get licenses from both. quote:move out of redneck colorado, dude. The day I graduate, if not sooner.
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Yeah Garden City is, for all intents and purposes, a part of Greeley. The mayor actually cited the city's origins as a speakeasy town in his explanation to allow recreational pot sales. They'll get plenty of business from the college student/grad population here, smoking is widespread enough among that demographic that I'm somewhat caught off guard when I meet someone that doesn't smoke.
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Dec 28, 2013 21:35
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Pryor on Fire posted:Greeley is such a shithole. It's the worst part of Colorado by far. Hell even the podunk 500 people towns near the Kansas border have more character and charm than Greeley. Whenever people start bitching about how terrible Pueblo or wherever is I just say "oh man you haven't been to Greeley yet have you"? Yep, I'm planning on moving to Denver as soon as possible after I graduate.
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Dec 29, 2013 01:52
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Install Windows posted:Surely the gas and time to get down and back is going to eventually be much less than you were spending getting illegal weed before anyway. Oh, I'm moving for plenty of other reasons, I didn't even consider this an issue until I had already made up my mind. It'll just be a nice perk
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Dec 29, 2013 02:19
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The Denver Post has published a list of the dispensaries that have told them they'll be opening tomorrow, as well as a few others that will be opening in the coming months. Looks like one of the Garden City dispensaries is opening, so not all hope is lost for residents of Greeley  quote:A definitive list of Colorado shops open for recreational marijuana sales on New Year's Day is difficult to nail down some shops are still waiting for licensing, or other items, and may not decide until the last minute. By law, none can open before 8 a.m. Wednesday.
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Dec 31, 2013 22:57
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TheRamblingSoul posted:Doesn't the Venn diagram between skiers/snowboarders and weed smokers nearly completely overlap? Pretty much, yeah. Also lol @ that article. "The people who live this type of lifestyle cant afford to support resorts like Vail"...except apparently they can, by virtue of the fact that they're there in the first place. This guy's got his nose so far in the air he could use it as a snorkel. The Maroon Hawk fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jan 2, 2014 |
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Jan 1, 2014 23:58
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19 o'clock posted:For the record: the mountains have collapsed, dogs and cats are living together, people are being smote en masse, God and country are pissed. This is the end of days, folks! FINALLY. 
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NurhacisUrn posted:Woah woah woah. I never said anything about the other drugs being harmless. I did say that if Dr. Big Pharma is gonna push a TNF disarming medication like Adalimumab for psoriasis, then goddamnit, John Q. Public should be allowed to choose a little amphetamine, or some DMT for their time off work. The doctor didn't give a twopenny gently caress about the dangers of Adalimumab when prescribing that, so why shouldn't someone who does know the dangers about some recreational drug use not be allowed to make an informed decision? Personal anecdote time: I have Crohn's Disease and this past summer had a flare-up, and was prescribed Humira (Adalimumab) to treat it; however, thanks to the magic of insurance (or lack thereof) and doctor appointment times it was quite a while between the time I first started experiencing bad symptoms and the time I got the Humira; in the meantime, I used cannabis to treat my symptoms, and while it didn't get rid of them completely, I'm fairly certain cannabis usage was the only thing that kept me out of the hospital and still going to work. (I wasn't even going to work high; the cannabis' anti-inflammatory properties seemed to be continuous as long as I smoked it every night.)
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