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I just read my ballot primer today in complete shock. I hadn't looked too much into it (I'm a reformed smoker, in that, I just moved to Colorado a couple years ago and haven't made the right contacts yet, I swear I become friends with so many Christian Scientists, wtf), but thought it was another weak handed decriminalization type thing. Imagine my surprise when it outlines the licensing for retail marijuana shops, where you go in with naught but your ID proving your age to buy bud. Holy poo poo. LP97S posted:How would the legalization of marijuana affect employment requirements? Could a company still discriminate against anyone who has consumed marijuana while letting people who drink work? According to my ballot primer, yes.
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My company has heated smoker shacks with benches for the smokers, and we don't do any drug testing. Some cool companies  EDIT: But what do I reasonably expect? The ATF to basically have paramilitary units blasting into the retail stores to send a message. We'll see though. Loving Life Partner fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Oct 11, 2012 |
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Oct 11, 2012 03:49
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How does that work in the whole federalist system anyway? I know that federal law trumps state law when there's a conflict like this, but doesn't it then fall on the federal branch to enforce federal law in the absence of state enforcement? Or would, like, the local branch of the FBI or ATF be able to conscript local enforcement agents?
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Oct 11, 2012 04:38
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I guess from a profit perspective, it's more beneficial to the fed to swoop in and seize everything in the name of federal law than to let a tax trickle into state coffers and somewhat benefit them at some point in the future. Is there like a P&L report for the DEA or federal enforcement arms? That poo poo would be fun to look over.
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Oct 11, 2012 05:42
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So is the story about William Randolph Hearst single-handedly getting marijuana criminalized to stifle hemp paper true or what?
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Oct 11, 2012 19:53
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I think mostly it's the silliness of the illegality. It's an adult product with a valid base of citizens that want to use and enjoy it legally. I've drank, and I've done every drug under the sun and there's just no reason for a product like alcohol to be legal when something as mild and inoffensive as bud isn't. The scariest times of my life have been legally alcohol fueled and semi-socially acceptable (blacking out is HILARIOUS, it has 2 major motion films, meanwhile, it's pretty loving terrifying).
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Oct 12, 2012 18:29
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Ahh noble psilocybin, does nothing but trip people out
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Oct 12, 2012 23:06
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I've never bought into the philosophic conspiracy theories behind drug control, that the state would want to curb people having enlightening and/or mind expanding experiences, but it's a really interesting theory. Alcohol beloved and socially acceptable, you'll never have an epiphany on alcohol. But try some LSD or shrooms in a small quantity and see if it doesn't make you look at things a little differently at the very least.
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Oct 12, 2012 23:13
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Maybe it's just me, but if I can start going to The Weed Store and paying the same price as the street, but knowing that a chunk of it is going to taxes and helping schools? Hell yeah. gently caress Donnie the Dealer's income. I think most smokers would be glad to smoke legally AND have the double benefit of paying a tax to a good state initiative rather than supporting a black market.
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Oct 13, 2012 00:07
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Colorado legalizes weed! oh god I'm so sorry, waldon canyon was terrible
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Nov 7, 2012 06:41
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My company doesn't test, and it's a pretty big one. I think once you get above jobs with close customer contact and safety concerns, the amount of drug testing drops off. Although our chairperson is a huge bud proponent, so that helps 
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Nov 8, 2012 06:27
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What I mean is that there's more exposure to liability for a company if you work with the public and you're stoned and let a pile of carts plow into someone's kid. Their insurance can deny their claim or they can get super sued. Accidents are fine, but accidents with stoned employees where insurance claims can be denied can royally gently caress them over. Believe me in that I understand the beshitted classist aspect of it as well, but I don't think the stated reasons for liability are entirely bullshit. Loving Life Partner fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Nov 8, 2012 |
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Nov 8, 2012 06:53
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I don't get the resistance to the assertion. If marijuana has a full federal legalization go through, who would likely be the first makers of mass produced jazz cigarettes? Phillip Morris or Lorillard, pick one, 99% chance, right?
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Nov 11, 2012 05:35
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Lyapunov Unstable posted:Not sure if this has been posted, but Wow. That's awesome. gently caress the war on drugs, and gently caress jail time for bud. It'd be amazing if the states erode it from underneath the fed.
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Nov 11, 2012 21:59
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Could the Fed like, "poll the nation" during the next Presidential election about marijuana de-scheduling or de-criminalization and make a decision from there? Is it even possible to put something like that on every state ballot?
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Nov 15, 2012 18:25
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Warchicken posted:Second of all, we DO issue opiates all willy-nilly. I was kinda shocked when I had routine wisdom tooth extraction and they gave me an RX for 30 10mg percocet with a refill for 30. I mean the guy almost gave me a wink and finger gun when he did slid the RX over. I mean I refilled it and spent two of the most happy glorious weeks of my life high and happy as gently caress, but still! At the end of the bottle I was very much taking into consideration what my next steps would be, then I just thought of my dad going through pill withdrawal and that banished the looming spectre. That poo poo is wild.
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Jan 19, 2013 00:48
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So do we reach a tipping point where the Fed has to bend the knee to the states or can they dig their feet in on this? I mean they can probably justify it in the short term by whinging about how it affects global drug trade or some other whatever thing.
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Jan 22, 2013 16:08
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The Maroon Hawk posted:As a lifelong resident/native of Colorado, I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around this. Yes, I know Amendment 64 happened, and yes, I know personal consumption of pot was pretty much effectively legal already (as long as you weren't stupid about it) but the fact that actual retail marijuana stores may become a reality still hasn't sunk in. I guess it probably won't sink in until the minute I first walk into a dispensary. And what a glorious day it will be. I just moved to CO a few years ago, but it's still really insane to watch elected officials all in suits and ties being stone cold sincere about creating the framework for retail marijuana sales and even going so far as to talk about doing it right to "grow an industry". It's like some small portion of ignorant idiocy in the universe was banished all of a sudden.
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Mar 8, 2013 22:18
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Inspector Hound posted:I am moving to Colorado in the next few weeks. In the grand tradition of me hilariously blowing job interviews, I asked an HR rep if the mandatory drug test disqualified applicants for marijuana. Her answer was "It's still federally illegal, and I highly recommend that you don't ask that question again." I'd advise everyone to keep treating pot like something shameful and bad for at least a little while longer (Just to save some face, I still have an interview for this job coming up.) Are you moving to the Springs? Get a job at Progressive, they don't drug test cause the chairman's son is a big pothead
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Mar 17, 2013 05:02
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tk posted:Though I'm not sure that Progressive's corporate policies have anything to do with his son's choice of leisure activities, Peter Lewis has donated significant amounts of money to various legalization efforts (amongst other things). He's a bomb thrower of a chairman. We have guidelines at work to talk about when people call in pissed about him, because he also donates big money to the ACLU (which according to callers I've talked to, is a Nazi organization bent on destroying America). But yeah, it's a fairly decent mega corp to work for as far as benefits and employee policies go, not the least of which is their drug test policy.
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Mar 17, 2013 05:39
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KingEup posted:Check out this amazing piece of poo poo that has shown up in the NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/21/opinion/marijuana-and-minorities.html?_r=1& it never ceases to amaze me the blindspot people have for issues of class vs issues of race and how they relate to each other (and also maybe don't).
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Jun 22, 2013 19:22
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While I agree that everybody locked up for non-violent drug offenses should be released, I can just imagine FOX with their CRIME TOLL counter just running the names every day looking for recidivists who maybe escalate their crimes, god forbid a rape or murder occur.
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Aug 13, 2013 14:30
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I'm not saying I care that'll happen personally, because I don't and its obviously a non issue, but there are people who do care because they run a national party.
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Aug 13, 2013 20:13
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Are there any stories of negative events or behaviors occuring where medical marijuana use is robust? Aside from the federal government being lovely and fascist?
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