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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

CellBlock posted:

Fun fact: The Epoch Times is Chinese - run by the Falun Gong movement. (Well, I guess that's "Chinese" since Falun Gong is headquartered in New York.)

It's odd because Falun Gong vs. the CCP is one of those situations where I don't think I can determine who I loathe more. They each have some very valid points about why the other is absolutely awful, and I end up hating both of those organizations.

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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

VitalSigns posted:

haha Dan Quayle remember the days when loving up while spelling a word was widely considered a scandal and how unbelievable it was that someone that stupid was next in line for the presidency :allears:

Or when having an affair could tank your career. Thinking if Gary Hart. Now we had a a president who pays hush money to porn stars and nearly half the country worships him

Just for kicks, I updated the OP

My Face When
Nov 28, 2012

Hide your healthcare.
Hide your wife.

Ah you know potato potahtoe.

Im also thinking about john edwards and hell, howard "the scream" dean.

How would those scandals work now in a post trump world?

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
Out of curiosity I went to see if someone had registered isrushlimbaughdead.com and it's just a parked domain. I was hoping there would be some festive GIF images and an emphatic "YES!"

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
Eat poo poo Rush

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

VitalSigns posted:

haha Dan Quayle remember the days when loving up while spelling a word was widely considered a scandal and how unbelievable it was that someone that stupid was next in line for the presidency :allears:

I know what you're saying here VitalSigns and the context you're putting it in but just want to express my exasperation at people who do think bad spelling is a sign of unintelligence and not just a brain quirk that some people have.

John Britten (who was taken from us too young) was a genius engineer and designer who created the fastest motorcycle in the world and designed and built houses from scratch. Couldn't spell for poo poo apparently but that didn't matter since everything else in his brain worked at maximum capacity.

CellBlock
Oct 6, 2005

It just don't stop.



Bargearse posted:

Eat poo poo Rush

Is this like “Eat, Pray, Love?”

Eat
poo poo
Rush

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

My Face When posted:

Ah you know potato potahtoe.

Im also thinking about john edwards and hell, howard "the scream" dean.

How would those scandals work now in a post trump world?

Oh man remember the Dukakis tank photo? I wouldn't say it single handedly ruined his chances at the presidency but it definitely hurt his chances.

And then I remember we have a picture of Trump yelling in a truck.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Weatherman posted:

I know what you're saying here VitalSigns and the context you're putting it in but just want to express my exasperation at people who do think bad spelling is a sign of unintelligence and not just a brain quirk that some people have.

John Britten (who was taken from us too young) was a genius engineer and designer who created the fastest motorcycle in the world and designed and built houses from scratch. Couldn't spell for poo poo apparently but that didn't matter since everything else in his brain worked at maximum capacity.

It wasn't the mere fact that he couldn't spell, it's that he "corrected" a student who was spelling correctly. That sort of cocksure "I'm right even when I'm wrong" bullshit is everything that's wrong with the people in power. And unlike other famous political gaffes, that actually revealed a defect in his character that rendered him unsuitable for the job. I don't give a poo poo if someone can spell "potato" but I do care that someone is willing to be aware of, if not even necessarily admit, the things they don't know.

(The incident in question: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/june-15-1992-dan-quayle-misspells-potato-48017343)

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

PT6A posted:

It wasn't the mere fact that he couldn't spell, it's that he "corrected" a student who was spelling correctly. That sort of cocksure "I'm right even when I'm wrong" bullshit is everything that's wrong with the people in power. And unlike other famous political gaffes, that actually revealed a defect in his character that rendered him unsuitable for the job. I don't give a poo poo if someone can spell "potato" but I do care that someone is willing to be aware of, if not even necessarily admit, the things they don't know.

(The incident in question: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/june-15-1992-dan-quayle-misspells-potato-48017343)

Oh OK, my bad. That part I didn't know. I thought it was just a case of "hurr hurr bad speller".

CellBlock posted:

Is this like “Eat, Pray, Love?”

Eat
poo poo
Rush

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Weatherman posted:

Oh OK, my bad. That part I didn't know. I thought it was just a case of "hurr hurr bad speller".


Yeah he was also a huge idiot for other reasons (like blaming the decline of morality on TV's Murphy Brown because the unmarried main character has a baby). His Wiki page has a list of other dumb stuff.

But yeah you're right if he were just a bad speller that wouldn't say anything about his intelligence, didn't mean to imply anything like that

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

VitalSigns posted:

Yeah he was also a huge idiot for other reasons (like blaming the decline of morality on TV's Murphy Brown because the unmarried main character has a baby). His Wiki page has a list of other dumb stuff.

But yeah you're right if he were just a bad speller that wouldn't say anything about his intelligence, didn't mean to imply anything like that

Nah you're all good -- you didn't imply that and I knew what you meant. Just using it as a jumping-off point :)

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

Warms my cold black heart.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I decided to dig up (parts of) Hunter S. Thompson's Nixon obituary in honor of Rush. I edited a few pronouns and tense.

quote:

If the right people are in charge of Rush's funeral, his casket will be launched into one of those open-sewage canals that empty into the ocean just south of New Jersey. He was a swine of a man and a jabbering dupe. Rush was so crooked that he needed servants to help him screw his pants on every morning. He was queer in the deepest way. His body should be burned in a trash bin.

These are harsh words for a man only recently canonized by President Trump -- but I have written worse things about Rush, many times, and the record will show that I kicked him repeatedly long before he got cancer and went down. I beat him like a mad dog with mange every time I got a chance, and I am proud of it. He was scum.

Rush's spirit will be with us for the rest of our lives -- whether you're me or Bill Clinton or you or Kurt Cobain or Bishop Tutu or Keith Richards or Amy Fisher or Boris Yeltsin's daughter or your fiancee's 16-year-old beer-drunk brother with his braided goatee and his whole life like a thundercloud out in front of him. This is not a generational thing. You don't even have to know who Rush Limbaugh was to be a victim of his ugly, Nazi spirit.

He has poisoned our water forever. Rush will be remembered as a classic case of a smart man making GBS threads in his own nest. But he also poo poo in our nests, and that was the crime that history will burn on his memory like a brand. Rush Limbaugh helped break the heart of the American Dream.

https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1362100969459302403

https://twitter.com/jasonintrator/status/1362181267735916544?s=20

Conservative pundits...telling the truth?

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Feb 18, 2021

fallingdownjoe
Mar 16, 2007

Please love me
That last one is definitely someone being subtle and snarky. It’s a proper put down of the whole movement.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

Twelve by Pies posted:

Oh man remember the Dukakis tank photo? I wouldn't say it single handedly ruined his chances at the presidency but it definitely hurt his chances.

And then I remember we have a picture of Trump yelling in a truck.

A lot like the Dean Scream it was really more that it became a symbol for an already sinking campaign and pop history is bad with the concept of linear time.

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

PT6A posted:

It's odd because Falun Gong vs. the CCP is one of those situations where I don't think I can determine who I loathe more. They each have some very valid points about why the other is absolutely awful, and I end up hating both of those organizations.

The CCP is resposible for the deaths of millions of people, whereas the Falun Gong is more comparable to scientology. Sure, scientology is a pyramid scheme that gives out bad medical advice, but if the government started detaining every single follower just for existing then I might feel bad for them.

The tragic thing about oppression is that it often turns the victims into future oppressors. Sort of like how a lot of refugees from Cuba wound up becoming diehard republicans, they sided with whoever claimed to be the most anti-communist.

So the Falon Gong are legimate victims of oppression, which resulted in a lot of Chinese diaspora backing Trump simply because he talked tough against China. And in the process they immersed themselves in the right-wing media sphere, because after a life of consuming bullshit from the Chinese state media they want the furthest thing from it. But they have yet to realize that independent media is also capable of lying, just for different reasons. But I'm still not sure if the exiled Chinese millionaires funding the Epoch Times are true Qanon believers or if they just see more money in selling right-wing gruel. The outlet was a lot more grounded in reality 5 years ago

tldr systemic oppression creates broken people

je1 healthcare fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Feb 19, 2021

letthereberock
Sep 4, 2004

Killer robot posted:

A lot like the Dean Scream it was really more that it became a symbol for an already sinking campaign and pop history is bad with the concept of linear time.

The two things are different though - the tank photo came out when Dukakis still had a theoretical chance of winning. By the time of the Dean scream Deans campaign was pretty much DOA

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

je1 healthcare posted:

The CCP is resposible for the deaths of millions of people, whereas the Falun Gong is more comparable to scientology. Sure, scientology is a pyramid scheme that gives out bad medical advice, but if the government started detaining every single follower just for existing then I might feel bad for them.

Not to excuse the many crimes of the CCP against this and other groups, but I think I'd have to say the answer is somewhere decidedly in the middle here. Cults have the potential to be ridiculously harmful, and at some point private belief of crazy things bleeds into the public realm when it involves other people and society. Jonestown was not innocent, Scientology is not innocent, the FLDS is not innocent, and the idea that these groups should be more or less allowed to do harmful things on the basis that the organization is founded in metaphysical or religious claims rather than something else, is ridiculous.

I'd feel much worse about them if they weren't actively contributing to a very toxic and harmful political culture elsewhere in the world.

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

PT6A posted:

Not to excuse the many crimes of the CCP against this and other groups, but I think I'd have to say the answer is somewhere decidedly in the middle here. Cults have the potential to be ridiculously harmful, and at some point private belief of crazy things bleeds into the public realm when it involves other people and society. Jonestown was not innocent, Scientology is not innocent, the FLDS is not innocent, and the idea that these groups should be more or less allowed to do harmful things on the basis that the organization is founded in metaphysical or religious claims rather than something else, is ridiculous.

I'd feel much worse about them if they weren't actively contributing to a very toxic and harmful political culture elsewhere in the world.

I somewhat agree. But it should be the individuals who are actually guilty of harming people that should be held responsible, either because they actually did something illegal (like kidnapping, extortion), or because they gave deadly medical advice.

The CCP's course of action has been to issue mass extrajudicial detentions of every single Falun Gong follower regardless of context. The government somewhat supported the religion up until they performed a peaceful mass-protest at the capitol. To which the CCP then saw it as a threat to their power. Tens of thousands of followers have vanished, Falun Gong claims they had their organs harvested and that they have the documentation to prove it. I have no idea how much of that is true, but we do know that the CCP still performs organ harvesting of prisoners, which in turn creates a financial incentive to imprison and sentence more people to death.

The leaders of Jonestown and Scientology aren't innocent, but the victims are mostly their own followers.

letthereberock posted:

The two things are different though - the tank photo came out when Dukakis still had a theoretical chance of winning. By the time of the Dean scream Deans campaign was pretty much DOA

There's also the fact that our media landscape was a lot less fragmented back then. When a politician's gaffe got featured on late-night talk shows, pretty much everyone at your workplace the next day knew about it. Dean and Dukakis were entirely at the whims of the three major networks

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


Do not despair fellow conservatives! Even after death Rush Limbaugh will still stand by you!

https://twitter.com/_danilo/status/1362633449128001536

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
That's basically EIB admitting "gently caress we've got nobody who's even remotely popular enough that could replace him."

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

Twelve by Pies posted:

That's basically EIB admitting "gently caress we've got nobody who's even remotely popular enough that could replace him."

It's surprising, because you'd think all you need is someone willing to sell their soul and spew bile all over the microphone for a few hours a day.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I give it 2 months before Q folks claim Rush is alive and being held prisoner by the leftist cannibal pedophile cabal.

"I want to talk to Rush."
"Uh... this show is prerecorded."
"I hear Rush talking! Put me on air!"
"Uh... Rush Limbaugh... died."
"HE'S TALKING RIGHT NOW! STOP LYING TO ME FAKE MEDIA!"

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

Dirk the Average posted:

It's surprising, because you'd think all you need is someone willing to sell their soul and spew bile all over the microphone for a few hours a day.


I don't think that's the reason why, Sean Hannity's radio show gets nearly the same numbers that Limbaugh's did. There's a dozen other nationally syndicated right-wing radio hosts that have become millionaires spewing the same bile. Limbaugh's death changes nothing, he's a product of an audience.

Although I am curious if they'll play all of his failed predictions of past years. Remember when radical socialist Barack Obama was supposed to end capitalism and permanently put America into a socialist dystopia?

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Rush had some lameass half-hour show on KTTV 13 when I was a kid. Listening to him talk, spread around his desk like an albino Jabba the Hutt with his condescending "FRIENDS..." opener, I just felt like something about him was super gross.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

PT6A posted:

Not to excuse the many crimes of the CCP against this and other groups, but I think I'd have to say the answer is somewhere decidedly in the middle here. Cults have the potential to be ridiculously harmful, and at some point private belief of crazy things bleeds into the public realm when it involves other people and society. Jonestown was not innocent, Scientology is not innocent, the FLDS is not innocent...

You left out Amway and MLM's in general

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Dirk the Average posted:

It's surprising, because you'd think all you need is someone willing to sell their soul and spew bile all over the microphone for a few hours a day.

I'm sure it's harder than it looks, like being a comedian seems easy just tell jokes, but actually working a crowd isn't that easy


Munin posted:

Do not despair fellow conservatives! Even after death Rush Limbaugh will still stand by you!

I wonder if they'll try to make it topical by selecting relevant segments and editing it to somewhat refer to current events, or if it's just gonna be the Boomer time stasis box where you turn it on and hear about how Hillary is disgracing the White House by wearing pants or not making cookies or whatever.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


drat, Ben Shapiro has found his everything in Gina Carano. He is going to use her however he can in order to make as much money as possible off of her.

User Error
Aug 31, 2006
Haha rush dead

pacerhimself
Dec 30, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
https://youtu.be/5y3jdsCeO4U
https://youtu.be/dwxhyww83FQ
https://youtu.be/hwg1bcz3_ck
https://youtu.be/obCupuO-ig0
https://youtu.be/Sign4z5yguc

In which excerpts from Ben Shapiro's awful novel are read and mercilessly mocked.

Brett Hawthorne lmao

Tree Dude
May 26, 2012

AND MY SONG IS...
Some old guy was reading a Rush Revere book on my flight today. Aren't those supposed to be for very sad children?

pacerhimself
Dec 30, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
But you answer your own question

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

pacerhimself posted:



Brett Hawthorne lmao

I hear he' "a bear of a man"


Thanks for these.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


I know that BtB does that to fill times when they do not have new material to go through but dammit, that is some of the best filler in mankind.

A friend of mine loves Ben Shapiro and any discussion ends with him trying to get me to listen to a BS podcast. I have started referring to BS as Brett Hawthorne and my friend gets unnaturally pissed about it.

Come on, Hawthorne is Shapiro’s fantasy persona so why not call him what he wants to be.

tek79
Jun 16, 2008

pacerhimself posted:

Brett Hawthorne lmao

Narrated in a deep "tough guy" voice, or the voice of Ben Shapiro. Your choice:

"Hawthorne, Brett: Active and throbbing member of U.S. elite forces. Always stood fully erect for the anthem. Could penetrate deeper into enemy territory than a saner soldier might dream. A man so hard he'd leave his adversaries trembling in the wake of an all-night skirmish as he went in for more. Seen him in action mah'self. Shoved me into a locker once. Did things to me that left marks. If ever there was a man to take a knee for or to stand at full salute, that would be Brett."

pacerhimself
Dec 30, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
This is kind of ancillary but I ran into this and had to post:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCBhDj0as5E

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012
He was a goliath of a man, his cyclopean 5 foot 3 frame towering above his compatriots.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

I know that BtB does that to fill times when they do not have new material to go through but dammit, that is some of the best filler in mankind.

A friend of mine loves Ben Shapiro and any discussion ends with him trying to get me to listen to a BS podcast. I have started referring to BS as Brett Hawthorne and my friend gets unnaturally pissed about it.

Come on, Hawthorne is Shapiro’s fantasy persona so why not call him what he wants to be.

Try referring to him as Levon Williams and see where that goes.

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Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

*Wakes up*

*Checks news*

*Rush Limbaugh still dead*

*Sips morning coffee*

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