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Yeah, if you never lose control of your emotions and think ugly thoughts than you're a better person than most everyone. Or a liar. But sane, rational, good people calm down and feel bad about it.
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Sword of Chomsky posted:If taken to its logical conclusion, wouldn't this mean the only people who are actually citizens were native Americans? The whole nation of immigrants thing probably doesn't get a lot of play on Alex Jones though. That's what I was wondering. Both my parents were natural born Americans and their parents were but that's where it ends. My grandparents weren't all born to two Americans. So doesn't that make my grandparents not citizens? And since my parents didn't have citizens as parents doesn't that make them not citizens? And then where does that leave me? Crap. I'm an illegal immigrant despite being 3rd generation born in the US?
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God, that "poor people aren't poor because they own stuff" nonsense was a time that had my blood boiling. I can't tell you how many conversations I had explaining how a one time purchase of a pretty much essential appliance doesn't mean you're not poor. Or how many people were sincerely outraged that poor people sometimes own video games. I had to sit down over and over again and explain how saving $300 or $400 for a year to buy your kid an XBox at Christmas (not even counting layaway plans, used purchases, or less reputable sellers) doesnt make you "not poor" if you struggle to pay the bills every month and don't know when the next check is coming. I really had to spell out to them how scrimping away $25 a month is different from finding hundreds if not thousands a month for essentials. And even that didn't get through to them until I asked "How much do you spend each month on non essentials like eating out, going to the movies, buying some clothes, having a Netflix subscription, and stuff like that? And don't you complain about money and taxes and stuff? So how is a one time video game purchase a big deal?" It was pulling teeth. Rational and well meaning people who would eventually see my side of it but it took forever to get them there because somehow poor people having a game was too much to process. "You know, you save hundreds if not thousands if you stop drinking or going to the movies or paying for cable or whatever. And then you could afford that stuff you say you can't afford." "But I need some relaxation and fun, I work hard." "So why don't poor people deserve some of that too?" STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Jan 17, 2013 |
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BiggerBoat posted:What are you talking about? They'd probably make an argument that businessmen drive the country and create jobs and blah blah blah while actors, musicians, and athletes just collect their wealth for something unworthy. Maybe throw in something about them corrupting the country with profane films and bad role models and illuminati satanism or something like that. This would of course be a lie because there are entire industries built around those musicians, athletes, and actors with the same "trickle down" affect of business men. And of course its just that those rich guys tend to be liberals and when liberal celebrities voice a opinion they suck. It's just blatant hypocrisy and they don't care.
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Feb 7, 2013 00:32
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jackofarcades posted:I don't buy that "players know the risks" and neither should anyone. Our understanding of football and its relationship to CTE has really only come about in the last few years. Besides, the NFL has been lying and covering up evidence of brain trauma for over a decade. Yeah, and even with the things they do know you just can't reasonably hold young men fully accountable for making major life choices and doing so with all the necessary wisdom and foresight. Even these guys who do understand the risks aren't thinking 10 or 15 years ahead to what life will be after the sport with no job skills, no outlet for their competiveness and aggression, and sore bones, health problems, brain damage, and drug addictions. Kids don't worry about the future and in a lot of ways this system takes advantage of that ignorance.
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Was that video supposed to make me terrified of dying alone? Because mission accomplished. I'm going out to make some more friends.
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BiggerBoat posted:I wonder if he realizes that theocratic Muslim governments are very politically conservative? I was talking to a hardcore Christian conservative family member the other day who was ranting about someone's skirt being above the knees and the scandal of an engaged couple moving in together and suddenly it hit me. "The one real problem with these Muslim theocracies is that you think they're too harsh and pick on the wrong people, huh? You're right on board with them on a lot of these cover up the women things." My family member looked really embarrassed and partially denied it but it was the same half hearted denial that I always get when its clear she can't actually come up with a counter argument that isn't basically "different god."
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Wolfsheim posted:I'm not siding with Shbobdb or anything because he's being kind of an rear end in a top hat about it, but you can definitely get sick from eating McDonald's? Maybe it's just because I live in godless Portland but due to the availability of so many other, better options I only eat at fast food chains anywhere between weeks and months apart. I noticed if I go too long my body will actively reject that poo poo, and I can actually become somewhat nauseous when eating it. The point is that when traveling and unfamiliar with what local places are awesome and what local places are a week away from being shut down by the Board of Health its usually a safe bet to go with places like Cracker Barrel or McDonalds. And sure, there's food on those menus that could make you regret eating but there's also probably plain, milquetoast items that if you eat in moderation you can satisfy your stomach and get back on the road with minimal issue. And odds are you know what items on the McDonalds menu upset your stomach and which don't if you eat there occasionally. But yes, of course, if you're home find the good food and skip the franchises. But franchises exist largely because of familiarity and that when you're out of towner they are known quantities. And for what its worth I also go months between fast food when at home and often get sick when I do eat it, but I can probably safely chalk that up to over eating because its been months so I kind of over indulge. The one time I ate at a Cracker Barrel it was for exactly this reason. I was with a group of friends traveling and very unfamiliar with what the area and they decided the Cracker Barrel was a safe enough place that had enough things on the menu to cover our group's tastes. My only real memory of the meal was that it was pretty bland and I had to negotiate with the waiter for something green.
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Yeah, I mean I was skimming the Freep thread the other day and saw that some Freeper got banned for arguing that they should be consistent on their birther stuff with Obama and Cruz. If you're banning people for something like that but not for advocating the literal Mexican Holocaust then how can you even deceive yourself that you're not a total rear end in a top hat or part of a community of total assholes? Ban people who advocate genocide. Its not an unreasonable line to draw and it might help when you try and convince people you're not a racist.
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Earlier today I was flipping channels and turned on The Five and they were talking about some weird "controversy" where two random Sony execs made racist jokes about Obama in emails that got hacked. I hung around to figure out what exactly they thought the controversy here was beyond "people are assholes" but immediately Greg Gutfeld just started ranting about how we should be horrified by the crime of hacking emails and how this is happening to everyone. And before I even had the chance to speculate that he was projecting he actually flat out said "I've said horrible things in email. The slurs you'd find in my emails would destroy me! We have to stop this!" I was kind of shocked that he was just so blatant about it. They spent the rest of the segment hinting that the liberal is a pervert. I always assume that's exactly what's happening with the whole "it's not really rape" thing. Just dudes who know they're guilty of this stuff preemptively mounting their defense. When I was young and trolling bars or college parties for hookups I made a simple choice that when a woman was wasted enough for her judgment to be clearly impaired I backed off so there were no problems or victims. My need to be laid wasn't strong enough to push that issue. I assume these guys are all the ones who went the other way and ordered another round.
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There's something about Megyn Kelly that makes me viscerally mad. I just can't stand her smugness and ridiculous framing of discussions to fit her idea. Listen to her for weeks say how Ferguson couldn't be a race thing because "African American" witnesses backed the cop's case just made my skin crawl. It was something about the way she insisted on saying "African American" every single time. I couldn't even really put my finger on it or explain why that seemed so wrong to me. It was just something about her tone and attitude that gave me chills. Part of me thinks its just that she's kind of new in this role. Hannity and O'Reilly make my skin crawl too but they've been around forever so I'm used to it. I mostly don't even listen to them for more than a few seconds. But since Kelly's show is still relatively new I tune in from time to time and give it more time so I think I'm just digesting more of it and its turning my stomach. But her interview with the psychologist who made the torture program was hilarious to watch. For one, she was billing it as this amazing first time exclusive even though he had already done the Vice interview. Then she made a big deal about how he would open up and tell all for the first time and then she kept asking him weird questions like "how many people were in the room" that he said he couldn't answer. And than it was just hilarious how she was clearly trying to frame the interview to make him out to be an American hero and he just wasn't biting. She kept trying to lead him into talking about "how it felt to be in a room with someone so evil" and he was all "he's just a guy who did evil stuff, nothing special." Then she'd ask him bizarre questions like "what was he wearing?" and he'd have absolutely no idea saying "that was a long time ago and I just didn't care." It was just this really funny comedy routine where Kelly was clearly trying to frame this whole thing as Mitchell being a hero who fought evil and saved the world and that's why he did terrible things but he was so non-plused by the whole thing that he was content to just give a matter of fact account of torturing people. And then she lost the satellite feed before she finished her silly, pointless, melodramatic interview. Which I just thought was perfect.
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She just says that stuff to try and maintain the illusion that she's being reasonable. Then she spends the next hour being horrible and framing everything in the channels agenda. I think you guys nailed why she gets under my skin. It's that "sleazy lawyer/honest newsman" routine she does. I know what she's saying. She knows what she's saying. But she's not EXACTLY saying it so she gets to act smug and above it all. quote:2. President Obama to commit to the complete eradication of both homophobia and Islamophobia Wait, what? I mean, I get that they're terrible people and that list is hilarious because I want at least half of those things unironically but what's even the joke here? "Ha ha ha! The president wants us to stop hating gays and muzzies! How ridiculous is that! I bet people would say he was about peace if he spoke against hate! What commie socialist loons!"
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I watched some Hannity last night and he seemed to seriously be advocating we bomb the poo poo out of North Korea and start a war because a lovely Seth Rogan film isn't being released (now, that poo poo will get released on DVD in six months with a label of "the movie terrorists tried to stop" and make more money). It was really surreal. He had a "Cyber Security Expert" on who was all "This really isn't that uncommon, this sort of hacking of personal or corporate information happens a fair amount" and Hannity just wasn't having it. He kept going on and on about how it was the biggest strike against America freedom and sovereignty since Pearl Harbor (I swear he said that) and that if left unanswered it would bring America to its knees. And then I think he started to speculate that this was all a joint effort with Iran and Russia and I swear I thought he was prepping for a new Axis of Evil and World War but I turned off the show before he could get there.
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Yeah, as much as I feel bad for the dog and think Palin is an rear end in a top hat I'm mostly just feeling a little icky that a developmentally disabled kid has parents that are lovely enough that when he steps on the dog they don't tell him that's bad but instead think it makes for a great Facebook post and positive life lesson. Thank God that kid is rich because he'd be hosed otherwise.
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Jan 2, 2015 21:36
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CommieGIR posted:He is living proof as to how well Abstinence works as a Sex Ed plan. I'm pretty sure he's Palin's youngest kid, not the unplanned grandson from a teen parent. If I'm wrong I should apologize for calling him developmentally disabled.
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Jan 2, 2015 21:43
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CommieGIR posted:Oh, woops, my bad. Wait, the kid is named Trig and the grandson is named Tripp? No wonder you confused them. That's just weird. Do those names mean something in Alaska or something or did she really just name her kid some random noise that sounds like her baby brother's random noise name? But yeah, all the Palin children seem to be pieces of work. Which is probably to be expected given their parents. Which is why I just feel bad for the youngest. He's young enough that he's still an innocent in this trashy family and he's got the built in disadvantages. It sucks for him. She could have been President.
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AsInHowe posted:Because they are vengeful dicks that didn't read the book. Maybe they read the first couple of chapters and then got distracted.
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I just enjoy how the thing the connection Rush finally makes in that conversation is that it might affect his precious caviar supply. That just seemed to perfectly sum Rush Limbaugh up. Man of the People, he hopes his personal chef's use of sea salt doesn't hurt his caviar.
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Chris Christie's response to a wave of bad press due to his many mistakes and flaws. "Google me. That will solve everything." Sometimes you have to love it.
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quote:“And when you go out and you find yourself pulled over on the side of the road, a prior illegal immigrant’s going to be walking up to your car with a badge and a gun.” I'm trying to figure out why this is supposed to scare me so much (you know, besides the general fear of an armed cop). Like, am I just supposed to be scared by the word "illegal"? At one point does that word lack meaning? If they're lawful members of society paying taxes and holding down jobs that theoretically serve the community like police what's the problem I have? Am I unemployed so I'm mad? Or am I having some existential crisis that an "illegal" is enforcing the law? Or should I just be scared he's brown?
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So last night I was channel surfing and caught Hannity going to commercial teasing "an update on Orgy Island." That seemed weird so I hung around and saw an entire segment where Hannity and company came THIIIIIIIIIIIS close to calling Bill Clinton a pedophile. The whole segment was about drawing links between Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein and stopping JUST short of calling a former US president a pedophile without a shred of evidence. Actually, that's not entirely true. The one Hannity guest flat out said Clinton was having sex with a 17-year-old girl who Epstein acquired for him. He offered no evidence to back this up and no one challenged it. Is this a current Right Wing thing or is it just Hannity being Hannity? Like, am I just being naive that I was shocked that they'd flat out speculate on a former president being a loving pedophile without any evidence or valid reason? It was literally "he flew on a plane with the guy a couple of times and the guy plead the fifth when asked about Clinton so... PEDOPHILE!" It threw me back.
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Yeah, but I mean... "President Clinton is a pedophile because everyone who has ever rode in an airplane with a pedophile is a pedophile" just seemed beyond the pale to me. But maybe I'm just blissfully ignorant of what really is going on on the other side of the Pale.
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Feb 20, 2015 22:40
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I've never seen that person before. I hate him. Also, holy crap. All those "hipsters" dress and look like so many people around me and my friends! They wear tshirts and sometimes plaid shirts and sometimes dresses and sometimes have facial hair! That's like everyone I know! Am I sorrounding by hipsters!? They all use Twitter! Wait a second... Am I a hipster?!
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Feb 21, 2015 00:01
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Intel&Sebastian posted:What were your top 3 albums of the past 5 years or so? Oh, I totally know the answer to this one. Who the hell buys albums?
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Brian Williams is toast because he admitted he lied and apologized. You can't do that poo poo in America. Bill O'Reilly will never actually feel any negative consequences of this poo poo because even though he lies like breathing he will never, ever, ever admit it. So short of a jury of his peers finding him guilty of perjury he's gonna just skate by every little thing anyone digs up.
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Yeah, I'm reasonably sure that if I presented this to some of the people in my life who oppose Obamacare or other government assistance they'd just say "See? The community/friends/charity provides and that's how it should be." Then we'd just be locked in the same frustrating debate where I say charity and community can't help everyone and he's just ok because he's famous and well connected and they'll say something like "maybe if the big businesses were taxed less they'd help" and then my liver dies from all the whiskey.
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I've been home doing work on my computer so just for no reason I've had Fox News on in the background, and let me tell you, the daytime anchors of Fox News are something else. I'm not sure there's an intelligent person in the bunch. Its really been bizarre to watch a bunch of people who seem to have the minds of children. I was watching Outnumbered for awhile, which I think may be the dumbest and most offensive show on Fox News and there was this hilarious segment where they were all losing their minds about that UC Irvine "Flag Ban" story. And of course it was a ridiculous exaggeration of the story. In their version it wasn't six students voting to ban flags and then the student body overturning it. It was the millenial progressive hippie dippie student body who doesn't understand loving America and should have their school funding pulled. It was pretty predictable and really silly and sophomoric. What you'd expect from political commentary by MTV VJ Kennedy. But then suddenly one of them flipped out and started ranting. "I've stayed quite too long... my daddy was in the military (or something) and blah blah love the country blah blah people died for that flag blah blah the veterans who have died for our freedom... I mean, hello! Chris Kyle! American Sniper! Have you seen the movie!?" Something about that made me start laughing hysterically and nearly pass out. I've been watching Gretchen Carlson for the last hour and I swear she may have the mind of a six year old. She's spent the entire show watching an empty podium waiting for Hillary Clinton to show. At one point she did detailed reporting on "some woman who walked up to the podium and then left... perhaps to put a paper on it? Or to check the microphone?" She's been REALLY focused on the idea that Clinton gave the emails in paper form rather than electronic, noting that it was "a waste of paper" and that it makes searching the emails so much harder because "there's no right click search option." Because apparently the key to breaking this whole scandal wide open was an Option-F "Benghazi." At one point Greta Van Susteran appeared to be trying to politely explain to Gretchen how Hillary's emails being on her own server mean they're not available in any open files with the State Department. Then she had to explain that reading the emails probably wouldn't cost the government "even a million dollars" let alone the "gazillions" that Gretchen originally suggested. She just said that Hillary Clinton should take a lesson from Frank Underwood. Now, I don't watch House of Cards but I'm pretty sure Underwood isn't a symbol of good politics.
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As a lapsed but raised Catholic I feel comfortable saying that exorcism is one of those things that only the super, super religious extreme of the Church puts any stock in. I've known a few people who believe in it just like they believe that angels come down and save people from car wrecks and demons come down and sabotage holy stuff like gremlins. One of those people once swore up and down to me that the Virgin Mary came into a room and served them all Eucharist. Of course after pushing a lot (mainly because I was very concerned for her mental health) she admitted that she meant that the Virgin Mary came into them as they served each other. But its that kind of out there religious that I've heard exorcism talk from. But 9 out of 10 Catholics I've ever known would never humor any of that poo poo. At least here in America. So I have no doubt that any branch of Christian could embrace that craziness if they're far enough along the path. I know I've heard the same kind of craziness from non-Catholics I've known at roughly the same percentages as the Catholics. Of course I've known a few Catholic priests from third world nations who would sometimes tell stories to you if you got them in the right mood (or plied them with a little Johnny Walker). I've also had more than one priest make the case to me that the use of "exorcisms" is a tool that the Church sometimes uses to get through to people who won't listen to more practical things. So basically the plot of The Last Exorcism. But I'm sure most Catholic priests would deny that on the record and its entirely possible the guys I was talking to were just "radicals."
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What's with that one lady actually attempting to insert logic like "Barak Obama isn't to blame for these attempted murders" that leads to everyone else losing their poo poo? Did she get imported in from another network or something?
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Mar 12, 2015 19:06
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Hazo posted:This is a really important thing to note. The only unfortunate thing about the fact that no actual media source takes Crowder seriously is that it'd be really funny for the media to run with this narrative of "Steven Crowder's plan backfires-- Planet Fitness kicks him out of their gyms, proving it IS in fact possible to distinguish genuine transsexuals from perverted weirdos crossdressing to harass women." If you somehow think this is an issue it doesn't seem like Crowder is the guy you want on your side. He just shot your argument in the foot.
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I've been watching a little of The Five this week because Bob Beckell is MIA and Juan Williams is in his seat. Now I don't like Williams but he's at least a halfway intelligent person who takes himself seriously. And that has completely screwed up The Five's flow. I've seen him make "the liberal argument" with actual facts instead of just silly hyperbole, I've seen him stand up to the ridiculous attacks they throw at him and even call them out for using "strawmen", and today I saw him cut off Greg Gutfeld and ruin one of his vulgar, terrible jokes by seeing the setup coming from a mile away. Then Gutfeld spent the next couple of segments sulking and it was great. Its just been kind of funny to watch because Williams isn't some kind of genius or hard core liberal or hostile guest but he's got a little intelligent and is making a good faith argument which has The Five completely unprepared to deal with him. They have no idea what to do when their liberal punching bag punches back and they just wilt in their chairs, literally. Sadly I think I heard them say Marco Rubio will have the chair on Monday so that may be it for the Juan Williams experiment.
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FMguru posted:Liberals who appear on Fox and don't do their impression of a punching bag don't get invited back and stop getting retainers and appearance fees. I really think some Fox producer was asleep at the wheel here. Williams is all over Fox News but usually when I see him he's sitting across from some blowhard bully like O'Reilly or someone who at least has some brains like Kelly. Putting him with the group of morons and clowns on the Five was just some production fuckup. He was barely saying or doing anything but none of them have been in an honest debate in years so they had no idea what to do. It was kind of fun to watch, though, in a really nerdy "I watch too much cable news" kind of way.
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Well, I mean, if the Bible was banned from campus while the Koran wasn't then I guess that would qualify as legitimate discrimination*. But I feel confident in assuming that's total bullshit. *Although obviously not "persecution." As an American Christian I find the American Christian reinterpretation of "persecution" just as offensive and mind blowing as you do. Persecution is getting jailed, killed, enslaved, denied the right to vote, etc, you assholes. Not being told you have to serve gay people and not being able to pick and having to learn about evolution in science class. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Mar 28, 2015 |
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I mean, you could probably argue that since Christians believe that Jesus IS God and Muslims just see him as a prophet then they actually do disagree on the nature of God so don't really follow the same guy even if they started at the same place. That is if you define the Christian God as the Holy Trinity. But by that logic the Jewish God is a different guy too and you won't see that kind of consistency from most of these people. And then I don't actually think all Christians agree on the Holy Trinity thing so you'd just end up with more Gods divided up if you actually followed such logic consistently instead of just not wanting to believe you have anything in common with the drat Muslims.
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Mar 28, 2015 20:57
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Yeah, isn't "the truth is in the middle" a dramatic step forward if its coming from the right? It may not be perfect but its drat near a miracle on its own and if a conservative said that to me I'd buy him a beer to try and reinforce that thinking.
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Mar 30, 2015 23:17
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Ralepozozaxe posted:The truth is in the middle always helps whoever is wrong or on the bad side of an argument, so conservative's love it. It's why we have so many news article's starting with questions, they don't want to be held accountable for having an opinion. I don't know. We're clearly hanging out with/listening to different conservatives because the ones I'm aware of are all "We're always right and you're always wrong." The Ferguson stuff was a pretty huge case of it because a lot of people I know/saw crowed about the DOJ report "proving them right" about "hands up, don't shoot" and Michael Brown and totally ignored that other report. Just hearing one acknowledge it as bad and the general conservative silence about it as bad was kind of shocking to me. But if you're talking about people who "don't want to be accountable for having an opinion" then we're definitely thinking of different people.
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Geraldo just said that he thinks Freddie Gray had an asthmatic seizure which caused him to thrash around in the van and break his neck. Case closed. We can pack it up now.
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Apr 30, 2015 19:11
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Even Geraldo rejected the "suicide by van wall" theory from the Washington Post as an absurd premise. Which is why he went with "asthma." Geraldo is practical.
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Apr 30, 2015 19:32
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FNC reporter Leland Vittert was "attacked"* by Al Sharpton and the Mayor when he was "just asking questions." I expect this will get a lot of play on Fox News as the day goes on. I'm sure Hannity won't stand for this abuse of his top bitch who does all his dirty work this week since Sean ain't going anywhere near Baltimore. *Dude was chasing them asking questions, Sharpton kept saying "wait for the press conference", some aid/bodyguard/whatever put himself in between the Mayor and Vittert, and Vittert acted like he had just been shot. I need to stop watching mid-day Fox News. I can't help myself.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:What I find really incredible is that these people completely and totally ignore the fact that "so poorly restrained that a spine break is possible" would be an incredible amount of negligence. So even if the police didn't outright murder the guy they're still on the hook for it no matter what. Well that's just an oppsie. No malicious intent there, you see, so you shouldn't be too harsh on those police officers. I'm sure they've learned their lesson. You know, this time.
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