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Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

fade5 posted:

We've finally gone full circle. "Truthiness", which is known to be a parody, is now be unironically used. A confirmed parody is now being used in a serious manner. Holy crap, Obama being re-elected really did break the right's brain. This is going to be fun to watch.

Well, people have been unironically using using the term 'bootstraps' for a very long time.

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Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

BiggerBoat posted:

I was X-mas shopping in a Barnes & Noble yesterday and they had entire walls of what I can only assume is a new Oliver North book. Is this guy still A Thing or did he just have a book signing there or something because god drat. Even though I live in a pretty conservative area, I was still a little shocked at the sheer amount of books I saw by right wing authors when I was browsing the politics section. Some of the titles were loving hilarious.

Yea, seeing book titles like "Liberals should be executed" is pretty disheartening. It's even worse when you know that people are essentially being told this in all of the news they watch as well.

I suppose you could take solace that the left wing doesn't need a bunch of writers for them because all of the books are in the sciences section :smug:

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Sean Archer posted:

I'm curious to where all this liberal biased "Facebook censorship" is taking place because half my news feed is viral right-wing media now.

Seriously. This is my Facebook. Newsmax/Fox bullshit as far as I can see.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Family overall is pretty conservative. Friends from college got crazy conservative.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Lord Lambeth posted:

You should also point out that ex-Football players and ex-Hockey players are hitting their mid-life crisis with severe head trauma. With 20 odd years of getting smacked around I'd want as big a salary as possible.

Avoid the concussion/quality of life after playing discussion entirely because a conservative will just say "What are they whining about? They knew the risks, and got paid ridiculous amounts of money for it!"

But if you're already down that path, you can say "Yea, coal mining is dangerous too, but that's no reason not to give miners hard hats or some basic equipment to survive cave-ins"

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

I see that there. posted:

"No one has had the GUTS to stand up to this president, and yet we just watched you do it for 13 hours [...] no one has been brave enough to attack this president, but here you are, ok, everything's fine, and the sun is still shining."

Listen, liberals don't have the motherfucking time or energy to criticize the President for something he's done because thanks to the worthless loving sack of poo poo conservatives, we're too tired from your accusations about the President of things he's not responsible for.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Cheapsteaks posted:

I'd like to see Rush take a tackle from someone's helmet or tackle a football player while wearing a helmet. He should put his money where his mouth is and do it.

Last time he saw a long yardage situation was when the hostess at Golden Corral sat him at the opposite end of the buffet as the chocolate wonderfall.

And you can be drat certain that most of these "pussification" assholes haven't played sports since they weighed south of 150 lbs

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

I recall f1 drivers needing to be in good shape. Not sure about Nascar though. everybody wanted to be the football player who banged the prom queen.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Skeeter Green posted:

I don't know what it is about libertarianism but somehow it manages to get me angrier than any other ideology. I know it isn't as awful as neo-nazism and doesn't have the same clout as conservatism but something about libertarianism just gets me riled up. I think it's the fact that it claims to be a rational, logical, thinking man's ideology but is really based upon the deification of The Market as some kind of benevolent force for the good of all.

Libertarians like to pretend they're all 'progressive' on social issues because they say the government should get out of the way of personal rights. However, they're too loving retarded to realize that their ideology doesn't protect those rights.

For all the horseshit they talk about rights and social issues, they've put out the blueprint for a government that can't enforce poo poo.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Can't we all agree that South Park is terrible and that there are some people who use it as the basis of their arguments and others who don't?

edit: Jesus loving christ, Intel. Going down the first amendment path?

Doctor Butts fucked around with this message at 22:43 on May 2, 2013

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

I wouldn't mind seeing a new Benghazi or resurrected Benghazi thread. For all the talking points floating around, I still don't see what the Obama administration did wrong other than calling it terrorism fast enough.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Never.More posted:


4. Creation vs Big Bang:
Someone below posted the "religion vs science" argument, didnt respond to that but I will offer this if tangents are ok (assuming they are given the responses I received). The religion vs science argument is an interesting one, they both depend upon faith.

Science is not based on faith. If you believe this, then you do not understand science. I'm not sure you can come to an understanding of anything discussed in this thread if you believe that religion and science can both be reduced to faith.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Good Citizen posted:

After about 2 years of relatively heavy right wing radio use

I can barely even listen to clips of Right Wing radio. The one part of my brain goes "not only is that not true, but that is dumb" the other part of the brain goes "PEOPLE loving BELIEVE THIS poo poo". And then I get mad.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Because its a waste of loving time to try to reason with family members who think Obama is a socialist and that global warming is a hoax.

Here's the sequence of events:
1. The shitheaded family member brings up some politically charged talking point they want to whine about
2. You point out that its bullshit
3. They throw out dumb loving links that don't prove poo poo
4. You pull out links that prove that its bullshit and they're retarded
5. They don't trust the source of the links because its from some liberal indoctrination college, or some loving retarded bullshit like that
6. You ask why your links that have more scientific consensus and do more to factually prove your position are suspect, while their retarded loving 'foundation for tea party agressive shitstaining' website has more reliable information
7. They bring out the stupid loving "It's just common sense!" argument
8. You tell them your poo poo disproves "common sense"
9. The argument either gets even more heated until people calm each side down or the retard says you can't be reasoned with because you use facts.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Do we actually have proof that Zimmerman wasn't trying to gay rape Martin?

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I have a theory. I think sometimes these types of people genuinely do not understand why the sexist and racist poo poo they say is sexist and racist. They seriously think sexism and racism are random labels just thrown out by Liberals. So, they think they can do the same thing by randomly throwing out labels and acting like its a counter argument.

They aren't racist or sexist, you're just being too PC!

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

NatasDog posted:

It's not cognitive dissonance, it's compartmentalization; which is the specific mechanism used to prevent them from feeling the discomfort of dissonance. I'm sure everyone here knows what you meant, but if you're going to call someone else out on it you'll want to use the right terms.

Quoting this because it really needs to be repeated.

Cognitive Dissonance is a term that a lot of people have been using incorrectly in D&D for years now.

Compartmentalization is definitely the better term.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Obama isn't stoking the fires for a race war, but he regularly tries to incite class warfare!

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

We've found him.

That's the black friend that white people use to dodge accusations of racism.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Yea but isn't Limbaugh contracted to the 20's or something insane like that?

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

I can't wait to see a shitload of white people lie through their teeth and pretend like they've ever been insulted by being called a cracker.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

SilentD posted:

That's how I honestly feel, that's how most people I know feel if you get them drunk enough to be honest about it. I'm being 100% honest.

The people you know get drunk and talk about getting boners when they see poor people die in tornadoes?

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

radical meme posted:

But this whole line of argument and messaging from conservative radio hosts is really unsettling to me. First, they are backtracking on decades of Constitution grandstanding. They have always held up the constitution as some of kind of infallible document and suddenly they are saying its broken and has been broken for years and needs to be fixed. I don't understand how that type of 180 degree marketing can sell to anyone.

Maybe my comprehension is off, but it sounds like Rush is saying that the constitution is fine, but its being trampled on.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Round 1? We pretty much told them to go home or get hosed. Round 2, we told them to show us all their weapons while we built up for war.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

greatn posted:

How is it, by the way, that no one ever mentions he molested his cousin for years? It was a story, she came out and made the accusation, and it completely disappeared.

Well he was never convicted of it and I seem to recall she recanted, or it didn't stick for one reason or another.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Star Man posted:

I'm a lazy rear end Millenial college-drop out that works for a cleaning company. Where I clean is a little place called Lockheed Martin Space Systems Center.

Though you'll see cubicles in office suites here with all kinds of Republican poo poo all over and the one next to it with hippy dippy liberal paraphernalia. This kind of thing just stuck out.

So they poo poo on the guy who pays their bills?

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Install Windows posted:

It's kinda telling that Books-A-Million is also now the second largest remaining US book seller. (Barnes & Noble being the largest and the only book chain that still has stores in all 50 states, BAM has them in 31)

The thing is, all bookstores I've seen are filled to the brim of conservative tell-you-what-to-think books. You can't walk 10 feet without a big rear end book with Coulter's face telling you liberals are terrorists who should executed, or O'Reilly saying he's smarter than you.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Popular Thug Drink posted:

Actually, the USPS service cuts are because the USPS was mandated by Congress to shovel billions of dollars every quarter into a gigantic pension/healthcare plan. I don't have a link on me but I remember last time I checked that the amount USPS was obligated to remove from operational funding every year was larger than the combined yearly net profit of both FedEx and UPS.

IIRC: The USPS has 5 years to fully fund the pensions of people who haven't even been hired yet.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Madmarker posted:

Wait....what?

IS this actually a thing, because......I mean, isn't it like REALLY obvious that more people live in cities than otherwise? (In the United States)

But that doesn't matter because they surround us.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Buried alive posted:

Don't forget that upon investigating the matter, it turns out the IRS was also targeting leftist groups as well.

Can you do me a favor and cite the poo poo out of this with links?

I've read a bunch of stuff which touches on that through Googling, but nothing that specific. No direct info that says "YEP IT DID HAPPEN"- only milquetoast phrases that said "Left got hit too".

I'm having a lot of trouble finding something big and concrete, so if you can help, I'd appreciate it.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

There are some real problems with NPR right now. For one thing, the current CEO of NPR is "a member of the National Council of the American Enterprise Institute".

More disturbingly, they've started taking funding for what are essentially large-scale right wing propaganda campaigns. See, e.g.,


http://pando.com/2014/02/12/the-wolf-of-sesame-street-revealing-the-secret-corruption-inside-pbss-news-division/

Articles like that really put things like the big "expose" NPR did on disability benefits last year into perspective. NPR is getting hijacked by the same moneyed agenda almost everything else is. They ended up returning the "donation" in this instance once they got caught, but how many pseudo-news campaigns are getting funded this way where the funding source isn't getting caught?

It's times like this I really wish there was a George Soros liberal conspiracy. Because the opposite is pretty damned true (in my opinion)

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I kind of need to wonder how many of them have actually read Rand or given it any deep thought or, really, understand what Rand believed at all. I'm not defending Rand but generally whenever they meet a Randroid they don't understand Rand's philosophy beyond "she says I can be a selfish rear end in a top hat!" More importantly, they're almost always fat, white middle managers that don't know how to actually make anything themselves or couldn't feed themselves if society collapsed. Exactly none of them are the entrepreneurs and engineers that Rand thought were the best people in the world. Best part is most of them are pretty damned lazy, barely able to do their jobs, and only got to where they are thanks to the good fortune of being born to upper middle-class white families.

Yeah sure, go ahead and tell me again how "doing it entirely on your own with no help from anybody, ever" involved using public schools, having your parents pay for your education, and then getting a sweet job from your uncle at 23. Nepotism doesn't exist, after all.

I don't think we need to necessarily go down the road of detailing how useless these people are with regards to Rand's philosophy when we can just say that they aren't the type of people this philosophy is supposed to work for anyway. If you at all have to rely on wages you get from an employer: she wasn't talking about you in her book. You are not the ubermensch. That's all there is to it.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

I would have figured Rush never gets sick because he doesn't come into contact with any real human beings.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:


My only question on BEHGNAZHZI!11 is what where FOX always referring to about X person WHO WAS THERE!!!11 wanted to speak out/testify but Obama Admin wouldn't let them?

You mean Dylan Davies?

He lied his loving rear end off and got caught

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

I think the problem with that is that while his immediate parents are nouveau, he did have relatives in the area dating back a century.

It doesn't matter though. Let's assume that he does have family that dated back to the 1870's in that specific area. His family had more than enough time to make a claim and own that land he's been using illegally. So, either he's lying his loving rear end off or he's just another descendant in a long line of retards.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Cliven Bundy is like a Kobayashi-Maru scenario of indefensibility. Every time they think they can stick up for him, Bundy ups the stakes.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Dr. Faustus posted:

Didn't you know it's time to stop blaming Bush for all of our problems?? :v:

And without fail, two minutes later, they blame Clinton for something.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Grand Theft Autobot posted:

I love the logic of continuing to cover Benghazi poo poo.

"It didn't work in 2012, during an election season, right after the attacks occurred, and in fact lead to a gory headshot of our favored candidate in the middle of a nationally televised debate that he absolutely needed to win. But surely it will work nearly two years later, now that even fewer people give a poo poo!"

The Benghazi smoking gun is buried next to the Iraqi enriched uranium. How far are Republicans willing to go to prove to us that they're wrong?

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Tatum Girlparts posted:

So I don't need to tell anyone that Gretta VanSustrin (however it's spelled)

I dunno, personally she looks like she's had a big stroke.

Also this boat story is kind of grating only because I think you'd have to be crazy to want to cross an ocean in a 36' sailboat.

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Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Well I don't think the kids are asking for their parents to buy the book. It's either some bulk scam poo poo or that rear end in a top hat uncle who keeps buying the most heinous poo poo for your kid.

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