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iTrust
Mar 25, 2010

It's not good for your health.

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Latest update, April 5: New DLC details are below. FAQ updated (not really).

Are you a PC player? You will find happiness here.

Want to find goons to play with? #sa-borderlands @ SynIRC is the place to be!

Already know everything about this game? Go to the "various things" section for things that will delight your senses!

Have a question? It may already have been answered! Check out the FAQ in the second post.

Still not sure about buying Gaige? SMASH THE SYSTEM AND DO IT.

Any information or archive things you want to read about can be found over here in the the pre release thread, which Rabidredneck was awesome enough to sort out for us.





Borderlands 2 is the sequel to the critically acclaimed FPSRPG Borderlands, quoted as being "Diablo with guns." The original game saw you take up the reins of one of four possible characters, each with a variety of skills and playstyles. You then went on a rampage across Pandoras eastern coast, collecting, buying, selling and perhaps ignoring thousands of different guns along the way in a quest to find the mythical vault. The game was touted as having "a bazillion guns" and according to the math, that actually wasn't too far off.

Borderlands 2 continues a lot of the same gameplay elements as the original game - there are four possible characters for you to choose from (5 if you buy the Mechromancer DLC pack, which you should because she is absolutely fantastic). A second vault has been discovered on Pandora in the Northwest region and another rampage is about to ensue. Keeping up with tradition, Borderlands 2 offers even more guns than the first, a far deeper storyline and a huge cast of memorable and for the most part extremely likable characters.

I've tried to keep this entire opening post as spoiler free as possible because the storyline in this game is actually really good, thanks to an absolutely stellar cast of characters. If there's anything that veers too far in bad directions though then shout at me loudly and I'll sort that out.




The game operates as a standard FPS with a lot of RPG elements, ranging from levelling up, talent trees and looting absolutely everything. Accompanying all of this is a huge cast of characters and a large, fairly involved storyline. Next to that is the staple of RPG games - the sidequest. Sidequests are a huge part of Borderlands 2, with some having large story arcs themselves, involving gang wars, revenge and making you into a bitch.

When you're playing through Borderlands 2 for the first time the key thing to remember is to just enjoy the ride, the first time through is pretty straightforward and you may find yourself overlevelling content if you complete every sidequest along the way. The first time through gives you a lot of opportunity to mess around and just enjoy your character and the storyline - for a lot of people the real fun begins in True Vault Hunter Mode, also known as TVHM or Playthrough 2.

TVHM is unlocked after you complete the game for the first time and is just a fancy way of saying New Game+. You retain everything from your first playthrough of the game such as character level and items. In this mode enemies are a higher level and do a lot more damage, punishing you for playing poorly or using items that aren't up to date with your level. Beyond this, if you complete the game a second time on TVHM you unlock what is known as "Playthrough 2.5" or PT2.5 in which the entire game is scaled up to your level (as it stands, all enemies will be Level 48-52) - this also includes sidequests you haven't yet started.

With regards to sidequests and PT2.5, for the quests that give you some extremely good items you may want to consider ignoring them entirely throughout TVHM until you activate PT2.5. That way their rewards will be scaled to Level 50 and be far better than their variant at a lower level. This is a purely optional choice however, due to the fact that the vast majority of the best loot in the game can be farmed whenever you want at the level cap. Never feel pressured into doing or ignoring something in the game because you want to min max your character - you'll always find another way of doing so 99% of the time.

With regards to overall gameplay, treat your first time through the game as a mixture of learning and going on a rampage. When you reach TVHM you'll probably find that treating the game as a loose cover shooter will serve you better with regards to your survivability. The good thing regardless of all this though is that if you find a way to play Borderlands 2 that works for you and you enjoy, you'll probably be absolutely fine right the way through until the end.

The game really rewards experimentation and trying new things, so don't ever feel like something is impossible - chances are you may just need some better gear or to refine your strategy a bit more.




Smokin' Jesus titty cinnamon, they are some badass characters. They're gonna be sweeeeeeet!

The characters in Borderlands 2 are a lot more defined than they were in Borderlands - gone are the days where playing as Brick made you feel celibate in a whorehouse, Mordecai and Bloodwing doing all the killing for you and Lilith being so overpowered the other characters were completely pointless. They're refined, they differ somewhat in playstyles, they aren't pigeonholed into using a particular type of weapon, and they are extremely badass. Click the character for their skill tree, what fun.




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Once upon a time Axton was a military man, until he decided that the military was too boring. He comes equipped with a turret that makes Roland's from the first game look like a pea shooter. It comes with the possibility of being a nuke, doubling up, 360 degree rotation and as an aside, romance.

Unlike Roland from the first game, Axton isn't the primary support class - instead he's all about delicious firepower and talking sweet nothings to a piece of metal that kills things. The best part? A lot of his talents focus on making him better at everything. He's a jack of all trades without any of the downsides that would normally entail - he's awesome at whatever you throw his way.

Axton is everything Roland wishes he could be.




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GUNS. DO YOU LIKE GUNS? GOOD BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE GETTING A LOT OF GUNS. HOW ABOUT USING TWO GUNS? OKAY GOOD BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE USING TWO GUNS A LOT OF THE TIME. WHAT'S THAT? YOU WANT SURVIVING AGAINST ALL ODDS TOO? WELL GOOD THING BECAUSE I, AS SALVADOR CAN ALSO DO THAT. OH WHATS THAT, FELLOW TEAM MATE? YOU'VE RAN OUT OF AMMUNITION? NOT ME, BECAUSE I AM SALVADOR AND I poo poo AMMO.

Salvador has insane survivability and (subject to argument) has either one of the best action skills in the game or the worst, depending on how you like to play. On the surface, "being able to dual wield for a short time" doesn't look like much, but once you apply a healthy dosage of the craziness in his skill trees and the fact that yes, Salvador probably does in fact poo poo ammo, you have a hell of a fun class to play in a cast of ridiculously good fun to play characters.

Salvador makes Brick look like the original skag licker.




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So you've got a huge crowd of Skags bearing down on your position, you have all of seven health points left and you're probably going to die. Suddenly you spot a skag lingering behind the pack, you get him in your sights and you let rip a dimensional singularity that pulls all of those skags away from you and towards him, giving your shields chance to reload. That same singularity also just exploded and set everything on fire. You are now switching weapons and have just done a colossal amount of damage due to the fact that everything in the vicinity of that singularity is now taking bonus damage. You are Maya, and you kick rear end.

Maya plays fairly differently depending on how you place her talents, and takes up the main support role in Borderlands 2 if you want her to - she can also take up the role of being a dps machine, a debuffer machine or a combination of all three. Her action ability can be augmented in a variety of ways, from causing every status effect in the game on the affected enemy, to mind control. In groups you're going to be everybody's best friend as you revive people in mere seconds and throw out so much healing that the messiah himself will be jealous.

Maya manages to be as awesome as Lilith without being totally game breaking.




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Zer0 is pretty much an enigma, nobody knows what the hell is underneath his mask and nobody seems to be that bothered by the fact he references Yu-Gi-Oh and talks almost exclusively in Haiku. But why would they be? Zer0 kicks rear end like the rest of them.

Some argue that Zer0 is the hardest class to play, and others argue that if you say such a thing then you're just not playing Zer0 right. He is one of the few assassins out there that is just as comfotable with a Sniper Rifle as he is with a Shotgun or a Bazooka. His action skill lets you turn 'invisible' for a short time and line up perfect critical hits, shoot a ton of Kunai at the enemy, or become a spectre of unrelenting death.

Zer0 is Mordecai without the over reliance on Sniper Rifles and Pistols to do anything of note.




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She costs 800 MS Points or $9.99 on the PSN store, unless you have the Premiere Club in which case congratulations, she's free. She has her own ECHO Podcast thing (episodes; 1 - 2 - 3 - 4), she even got her own trailer and she is all about putting her abilities towards the end result - SMASH THE SYSTEM. She also has a pet robot that does a lot of the fighting alongside her, which is nice. There's also My Little Pony references in her talent tree so if you're into that kind of thing then I guess that's nice too.

So you have her first talent tree which John Hemingway - the lead designer of Borderlands 2 - infamously called 'girlfriend mode' and after he checked his privilege he realised he totally meant "makes Deathtrap loving ridiculous." Her next talent tree is shocking, which is a terrible pun to make but is literally true - feel free to spend your points in this tree and enjoy the battlefield being a symphony of shock explosions and fire. Her final talent tree is all about being able to SMASH THE SYSTEM. Put some points into Anarchy and you're going to be shooting everywhere but at your target, but when you do hit that target it'll probably die in one hit, because Anarchy is all about massive damage at the cost of giving fucks.

Gaige is everything that Mass Effect 3 wishes its DLC character was - what I mean by that is she is totally worth the money. Oh and she wasn't already on the disc either. That was a joke at the expense of EA.




Announcement trailer.

Game Informer details.

Kifisonfire has good eyes and managed to get a few of the skills for the new character from the PAX stream.

Kifisonfire posted:

Found a few more of his skills after looking at the video during the panel again.

Buzz Axe Bombardier (Bloodlust): Attaches dynamite to the buzz axe which, when thrown at enemies, causes additional explosive damage.
Fuel the Blood (Bloodlust): Killing an enemy with melee increases explosive damage for each stack of Bloodlust and adds extra stacks to Bloodlust.
Thrill of the Kill (Mania): A percentage of overkill Damage (damage that is over and above what was needed to kill the enemy) is returned to you as health. The lower your health, the higher the percentage.
Elemental Elation (Hellborn): While Elemental Status Effect Damage is being done to enemies, you gain stacks of Elemental Elation. Fire Rate and Magazine size increased for each stack of Elemental Elation.
Delusional Damage (Hellborn): All Elemental Status Effects (Corrosive, shock, slag or fire) you cause have a chance to light yourself on fire. Ignite chances are determined by those accumulated from Burn, Baby, Burn and Fuel the Fire.


More on Krieg when it comes.






Similarly to Borderlands, there are a stupid amount of things to collect in the game - Guns, Shields, Class Mods, Relics and Grenade Mods. Using the same procedural generation system as the first game with some new quirks, the choices are pretty much endless. Of course there are the end game God tier weapons, however the drop rate has been significantly reduced (to about 1% outside of specific circumstances) compared to the first game, which means when you find something of the Orange variety, there's less chance of it being a Thumper Hellfire and more chance of it being something to crack the champagne open for. The vast majority of bosses in the game also have their own unique special drop, and the best part of this is that they can all be farmed. There are only one or two cases where this isn't true, but thankfully you won't need to worry because in those instances, those bosses don't drop anything special anyway!

The key difference in all of this celebration though is that manufacturers really, really matter in Borderlands 2. In the first game the name "Hyperion" on a weapon meant your accuracy was good and the name "Tediore" on a weapon meant it was going to reload at the speed of light - it's similar here except with a few (significant) modifications. Below are some basic details on the various manufacturers along with what Gearbox says about the aesthetics of these weapons. If you see a link then there's even a commercial available to help you pick the right gun!


Hyperion - Do not worry about the afterlife, Hyperion customer! Hell is reserved exclusively for pedophiles, and people who buy Jakobs munitions.

Hyperion, along with manufacturing the Claptrap series of robots, the New-U respawn stations and being colossal dicks that make Atlas look like boy scouts, make weapons that have built in stabilisers. What does this mean to you? Well, the more you hold the trigger the more accurate you get. The downside is that before you press and hold the trigger and thus activate the stabilisers, you're going to be aiming like a drunkard. On the brightside, Hyperion weapons are designed witht he classy individual in mind. Want to be classy? Use Hyperion.

Gearbox says: "Since Claptrap was originally made by Hyperion, we tried to apply his design language to their gun shapes and played with complex flat shapes and various materials. We also focused on continuing the robot theme with our automated electronic reloads. Audio pulled it all together with a unique firing report and a cool servo-like reload sound."


Jakobs - If it took more than one shot, you weren't using a Jakobs.

The key thing to remember with regards to Jakobs weapons is that you'll probably fall in love with them if your trigger finger is on speed. All of the Jakobs weapons in Borderlands 2 have 2 things in common - they do a huge amount of damage and fire as fast as you can pull the trigger. They sacrifice a lot of accuracy, reload speed and all that nonsense for their ridiculously high damage, but when you're killing things before reloading and such becomes an issue, then who even cares?

Gearbox says: "Harkening back to the Wild West, Jakobs weapons have a rustic appearance."


Dahl - Dahl has been outfitting the defenders of freedom for over a century, and isn't about to stop anytime soon. We've built our company on the foundation that dead customers can't be repeat customers - keeping you alive is in our best interest!

Dahl are all about weapon stability, and with stability comes gratuitous amounts of accuracy. Every time you zoom in, or Aim Down Sights with a Dahl weapon you're going to activate the burst fire mode of the weapon, which usually involves 3-6 bullets being fired with every trigger pull. Their damage might not be as high as that of other manufacturers, and their accuracy might not be as high as that of Hyperion, but you can rest safe in the knowledge that recoil will not ever be a problem so long as you use Dahl.

Gearbox says: "Similar in form and function to modern military weapons, Dahl products are known for their stability."


Tediore - Tediore was founded on the principle that no family should be without the protection that an affordable, lightweight firearm provides. Whether you're planning on taking little Billy out to the fields for his first pheasant hunt or you need to chase some trouble off your front porch, Tediore will be there for you.

Tediore. Cheap, nasty, everything that Hyperion isn't. You're not classy if you use Tediore. I mean hell, their stuff even looks ugly. But you know what? With reliable damage and reload speeds equivalent to the speed of light, you won't even care. Oh, and by the way, that whole reloading thing? When you reload with Tediore you're reloading like a badass. Why is that I hear you ask? Reload a Tediore and watch as you throw the gun away and it explodes like a grenade, only to digistruct back into your hand with a new full magazine. Tediore.

Gearbox says: "Pumping tons of rounds into an enemy and then throwing the gun at their face to finish them off is a great experience."


Bandit - MORE BULLETS! MORE SHOOT BITS FOR BRAIN SPLATS! BANG BANG BANG BANG! ...BANG!

Reloading is for losers. So is accuracy. What you want from a weapon is HIGH DAMAGE and HIGH MAGAZINE SIZES. What you'll find here is exactly that. You'll forget what reloading even feels like, you'll not even be concerned when 90% of the magazine embeds itself into a rock instead of the face of the dumbass who charged at you with grenades sizzling in his hands. You want to shoot all of the bullets, all of the time. You use a Bandit weapon.

Gearbox says: "We focused on making each manufacturer unique through shape, colour, behaviour and sound. Working with everyone from design, to our 3D artists, to animation and audio, the weapon development was a fantastic back and forth process."


Maliwan - Every Maliwan weapon is designed by the skilled technicians in our bleeding-edge laboratories to pack as much elemental punch as possible. Our staff of artisans crafts each weapon to look as good as it performs.

Raw damage isn't really the be all, end all of things. In fact you can totally sacrifice raw damage for something far more... sexy. Maliwan is all about making combat and the death of your enemies as sexy as possible. If you pick up a Maliwan, know that you're soon going to be enjoying the gratuitous burning, corroding, electrocution or slagging of your enemies. Normal bullets are for people without imagination, elemental bullets are for the true artists. God drat I love Maliwan.

Gearbox says: "Maliwan weapons are just so sleek and sexy, I can't keep my hands off those curves."


Vladof - All Vladof weapons are constructed in the factories of your brethren and designed to pack the highest firing rate possible. The oppressors will be fast - we know this - Vladof helps you to be even quicker. Rise with Vladof. Together we will forge a better tomorrow!

VLADOF! VLADOF! VLADOF! Vladof weapons take one simple principle of how guns work and turn it up to eleven. You take your ordinary gun and then as the trigger is pulled you accelerate its fire rate. What results when using a Vladof weapon is a hail of bullets no man, beast or oppressor can stop. When you use a Vladof, you're not just using a gun, you're unleashing a tsunami on your enemies. A tsunami of bullets.

Gearbox says: "Kalashnikovs, spinning minigun barrels and banana clips served as the initial inspiration for Vladof's particular brand of weapons."


:torgue: Torgue :torgue: - Did you know over 97% of all creatures on Pandora aren't exploding right now? THAT'S BULLSHIT! BUY TORGUE!

LISTEN TO ME OVER THE NOISE OF EVERYTHING AROUND YOU EXPLODING IN MY GLORY. YOU SEE, I AM A TORGUE GUN AND AS A RESULT WAS PROBABLY DESIGNED NEXT TO A CEMENT MIXER. YOU SEE I AM EXTREMELY LOUD AND I DO NOT DO ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE EXPLOSIONS. YOU WANT AN EXPLOSIVE SHOTGUN? WE HAVE THAT. AN EXPLOSIVE PISTOL? NO PROBLEM. OKAY FINE SO MY BULLETS DON'T TRAVEL VERY FAST AND YOU REALLY NEED TO LEARN TO LEAD YOUR TARGETS WITH MY LUXURIOUS CHARMS, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T EVEN CARE. FOR I AM TRUE. I AM MIGHTY. I AM TORGUE.

Gearbox says: "Torgue: Explosions and more explosions. And just when you think they are done... MORE EXPLOSIONS!"


E-Tech - Based on my medical opinion, E-tech is friggin' dope!

Not strictly a manufacturer themselves, these weapons have a bit of backstory behind them explained below. E-Tech guns don't use traditional projectiles and include a variety of things being released from their barrels - if you find an E-Tech gun it's probably elemental and could fire anything from bursts of plasma to being a fully fledged ricocheting rail gun.

Gearbox says: "Hyperion took the eridium that started popping out of the vault and made a cool technology out of it called E-Tech, an alien technology that changes the way a gun looks and behaves, which it then licensed to all the different manufacturers - that's why the designs all share that stretched hexagonal panel shape."




Herein lies various things regarding DLC. Details regarding the Mechromancer DLC can be found in the Characters section above.


As it stands there has been confirmation of four DLC packages, the first of which was released on October 16th and is titled Captain Scarlett and her Pirate's Booty. You can either purchase the DLC separately for approx. $10/£8 or altogether in one package by purchasing the Borderlands 2 Season pass - the Season pass nets you a 25% saving, or means you get one DLC package of the four for free, which is nice.


DLC: Captain Scarlett and her Pirate's Booty.

Featuring several new locations (which are aesthetically quite amazing) and a whole new storyline, along with gamings most self aware character ever, this DLC involves pirates and treasure. You'll get to try out a new vehicle and several new enemies (most of which, sadly, are new variations of bandits) in your quest to find the legendary treasure of Captain Blade. The reward is pretty awesome for completing the DLC, and you'll also find yourself facing two new raid bosses which make Terramorphous look like Knuckle Dragger - The Bee ain't got poo poo on these guys.

When you complete the DLC make sure you explore the entirety of the final room. A few players have been robbed of the reward by not exploring 'all the way to the top'. Don't let this happen to you.

You can read a full review of the DLC from Eurogamer by clicking here.

Goon consensus is generally that this DLC is pretty good. Most seem to prefer it when compared to the reception that Dr. Ned's Zombie Island received here. The music in particular is phenomenal.



DLC: Mr. Torgue's Campaign of Carnage

“The basic story of Campaign of Carnage revolves around a new vault discovered in Pandora, buried in the center of a large crater that will only open “once the champion of Pandora feeds it the blood of the ultimate coward.” Your introduction to Mr. Torgue’s Campaign of Carnage comes via Mr. Torgue himself, screaming at you like a terrifying mix of Hulk Hogan and Macho Man Randy Savage with a deep love for explosions.”
--Taken from The Examiner.

Released on November 20, 2012 the second Borderlands 2 DLC features everything goons all wanted - MORE TORGUE. A few gameplay videos, located here (ign) and here (gamespot) are worth viewing.

This DLC is a lot better than the second DLC of the first game - the rather disappointing Mad Moxxi's Underdome Riot. There's a nice little storyline going on here, that nobody gives a poo poo about because explosions are more important. In line with the first DLC, there's also a loot bonanza ready for the taking. Also there are arenas. That's a thing, huh?

Here is the Eurogamer review for your pleasure.

Goon consensus appears to be that you will lose your family in a tragic, yet humorously explosive event if you do not buy this DLC as soon as you possibly can.



DLC: Sir Hammerlock's Big Game Hunt

Whisking players away to the savage lands of Aegrus, Sir Hammerlock wishes to engage in exotic game hunting but, much to no one's surprise, things don't go according to plan.

A wonderful (some spoilers) review from Joystiq can be found here.

Goon Consensus: Not as good as what came before but still decent if you want more Borderlands 2 (which you do).



The big beautiful April 2nd update / DLC

First of all I need to direct everyone to the most important component of the April 2nd update / DLC bonanza. The following list is all free of charge.

- New items in the Black Market:
- One additional ammo upgrade for each ammo type, at 50 Eridium each.
- Two more backpack storage space upgrades, at 50 and 100 Eridium respectively.
- Two more bank storage space upgrades, at 50 and 100 Eridium respectively.
- Increases the maximum amount of Eridium players can hold from 99 to 500.

This DLC is $4.99 / 400 MS Points unless you are a season pass holder, in which you're getting this for free. There are also some free elements to this DLC, too. Bonus point! As well as getting the things mentioned below for free you'll still be getting a 4th campaign DLC for your season pass - congratulations, you can send all of your fanmail for this wondrous thing to Gearbox.

April 2nd is a glorious day for many Borderlands 2 players, as we've been granted 11 additional levels (and 11 additional skill points as a result) for a very low price. More importantly though is that a third playthrough is going to be available - Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode with a variety of things. UVHM is totally free, and your money is only required for the level cap increase and for something... else.

Players of Borderlands 1 will remember that the Secret Armory DLC introduced a new weapon tier - Pearlescent. These weapons are making a return and will drop in UVHM assuming you've paid for the level cap increase. If you find one of these weapons then you may want to consider purchasing a lottery ticket at your earliest convenience, due to how rare they're most likely going to be.

"Gearbox Forums posted:

Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode Details

- Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode is unlocked for a character once they have completed the main story missions in True Vault Hunter Mode and reached level 50.
- Unlike other playthroughs, Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode can be replayed multiple times with players able to reset their overall mission progress at any time from the Main Menu.
- No more tutorial missions -- characters in Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode begin in Southern Shelf with the "Cleaning Up the Berg" mission.
- While playing in Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode, enemies and bosses will scale according to the player's current level or, if playing with others, the highest-level player in that party.
- Gameplay changes in UVHM:
- Enemy health generally increased 4x.
- Enemies now have a moderate amount of health regeneration.
- Increased duration of slag damage multiplier effect.
- Upped the damage that slagged enemies take from 2x to 3x.
- Weapon swap speed increased to better facilitate slag use.
- Enemies now more likely to drop ammo.
- Loot Midgets are now "Legendary Loot Midgets" that can drop Legendary and other top-tier gear.

So to recap;

You get the Black Market updates and Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode (playthrough 3) for free.
You get access to level 61 and Pearlescent weapons for free if you have a season pass.
You get access to level 61 and Pearlescent weapons for $4.99 / 400 MS Points if you aren't a season pass holder.

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DLC: Tiny Tina's Bunkers & Badasses

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Anything not linked above is here and is worth watching and/or reading.

Welcome to Pandora kiddos! The Launch trailer.

The IGN Review

A tour of Pandora with the esteemed Sir Hammerlock

The Wimoweh trailer (yes, really).

Randy Pitchford says words about hundreds and hundreds of enemies

The Guardian review :britain:

The infamous Wall Street Journal review :911:

Psycho Midget + Vending Machine + Real Life = Awesome - April Fools 2013 video. This is the best thing.





If you have Twitter be sure to follow Randy Pitchford and Gearbox software. They post SHIFT codes every so often which allow you to get Golden Keys for the loot chest in sanctuary - if you don't have Twitter then fear not for most of the codes posted thus far have been posted by kind goons, so keep an eye on the thread to maximise your purps.

Along with the above two twitter plugs, there's also the ECHOcasts twitter, which has so far been used to give details (in a way) of upcoming DLC. Gaige the Mechromancer and Mr. Torgue have both been featured on the ECHocasts twitter, and there's also occasionally ShiFT codes posted there, too, which Mr. Torgue blamed on his cat walking across his keyboard. Because he understands the internet.

If you are looking for Goons to play Borderlands 2 with then may I suggest having a look at the IRC channel #sa-borderlands on SynIRC- it's full of delightful people who want to help you get sick purps and make you help them also get sick purps. If you don't have IRC then click here and change the 'channel' to #sa-Borderlands and you'll be good to go.

The Xbox360 Metatag to help you find Goons to play this lovely game with is GoonsPlayingBL2. You can thank Dross for that one. Apparently the metatag is full right now, however you can still browse the people on it to find new lifelong friends.

And if you are allergic to metatags/have a PS3 and can't use IRC then you can click here to find the thread in which you can post your gamertag and make all your wildest dreams come true.

And finally - If I've missed anything massively important, obvious or otherwise just been completely negligent in my duties as a Games forum OP, then shout at me loudly about that as you would regarding spoilers and I will fix my terrible error as soon as I possibly can.

iTrust fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Jul 30, 2013

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It's not good for your health.

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What's included in the Season pass?

In the Season pass for this game, you'll get access to the four main DLC campaigns for the price of three. What you won't get is any other DLC they release, such as the Mechromancer character, or any other characters they may or may not release. In short, only buy the season pass if you want to buy the DLC campaigns, which you do, because so far they are awesome.


What is this True Vault Hunter Mode and Playthrough 2.5 I keep hearing about?

When you defeat the final boss of the campaign for the first time, you unlock New Game+ (named True Vault Hunter Mode), in which enemies are smarter, harder to kill, and deal more damage to your character. When you defeat the final boss again in New Game+ you unlock "Playthrough 2.5" in which all enemies in New Game+ now scale to your level, and as a result drop better loot as well as being harder to kill.

You need to select True Vault Hunter Mode from the main menu of the game, and you can still go back to Playthrough 1 of the game from this menu if you want to.


How do I get sidequest rewards to scale to my level in Playthrough 2.5?

Any sidequest that offers a loot reward can have that reward scaled to level 48-50 once you defeat the final boss in True Vault Hunter Mode. The condition is that you cannot have accepted (or by extension, 'discovered') that quest prior to defeating the final boss. If you want a particular item from a sidequest at the level cap, then make sure you don't do anything concerning that questline before you defeat the final boss.

As a sidenote to this, TVHM is hard if your gear isn't up to date, and sidequests are one of the best ways to keep your gear up to date. Don't feel like you're going to miss out on the "best loot in the game™" by waiting until later to do the sidequests - there's almost always going to be a better gun, shield or whatever else that you can easily farm once you reach the level cap. The choice to go for high tier sidequest items is for the most part a personal one.


My challenge list is reading as having done level 1 of every non-level specific challenge but I still don't have the achievement! What gives?

Some challenges only unlock when you reach a certain rank in another challenge, the two that trip people up most on this are "Catch a Rocket!", which requires Rank 5 in "Splish Splash" before it unlocks, and "Shotgun Sniper" which requires Rank 5 of "Open Wide!" before it unlocks. As a result, for the achievement you need to get Rank 5 in certain challenges before you can unlock everything you need to get at least Rank 1 in.

For further details regarding challenges click here.


Why does everybody bless the ground Randy Pitchford walks upon and talk about SHiFT codes whilst they're doing it?

Randy Pitchford is a cool dude and I would hang out with him. That's one reason. The other reason is that SHiFT codes let you open up that golden chest by the Fast Travel station in Sanctuary. In that golden chest are guaranteed purple items tied to the level of the character opening the chest.

In order to get the keys to open that chest, you need to use SHiFT codes. They're posted most often by Randy Pitchford on his twitter account, as mentioned in the 'various things' section above, but more often than not kind goons post them in this thread too, so if you're allergic to social media then don't worry, you can get the codes anyway.

To use them, on the games main menu go to "Extras" and then select the "SHiFT" option, sign up to the service for a free golden key if you haven't done so already, and then come back to this screen whenever you have a fresh new code to use. Simple, really.


What is UVHM?

Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode, or "Playthrough 3" is unlocked after you defeat the final boss in True Vault Hunter Mode. The mode scales up with you as you level and has increased drop rates for most items, along with other changes outlined in the "DLC" section of the first post. This mode is difficult, and at times will make you cry out "bullshit" but it's designed to be the hardest mode you can play and isn't impossible, even solo.


I keep getting my rear end kicked in UVHM and this game is therefore the worst game in the world, what the gently caress? Gearbox :argh:

The first thing about UVHM is that you need to be on the ball with your weapon switches, use the D-Pad rather than Y or Triangle to ensure you're making the most of the increase in weapon switch speed that the mode provides. You'll need to combine this with Slag, and more Slag the better. If you can augment your action skill to produce Slag, do that. Absolutely anything that gets more slag onto enemies is crucial. You're also going to want to have decent elemental guns or a phenomenal non-elemental gun to make use of all the slag.

If you feel like you're dying too much, use cover and play a bit safer. You're going to be knocked into FFYL a lot and if you're playing Solo it's basically the same as being dead, so mitigate against that as much as you can. Play smart.

iTrust fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Apr 8, 2013

Mikael Kreoss
Feb 13, 2011

by Fistgrrl
Gaige is the best character.

Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

I will confess,
I love this cultured hell that tests my youth.



Mikael Kreoss posted:

Gaige is the best character.

Unworthy answer/Zero is the best ever/The rest are nothing.

Mikael Kreoss
Feb 13, 2011

by Fistgrrl

Vanderdeath posted:

Unworthy answer/Zero is the best ever/The rest are nothing.

GET OFF MY PLANE!

TheGreatGildersneeze
Feb 24, 2001
My passive aggressive shilling for Microsoft has gone beyond weird obsession levels. I have no attachment to reality outside of my feelings for a plastic box. I should shut my fat fucking mouth and stop trying to do PR for a billion dollar corp
One note: it was some other guy that made the 'girlfriend mode' comment about the Mechromancer, not Pitchford.


Also, Salvador all day, every day.

monkeu
Jun 1, 2000

by Reene
I've got a question for people who've played a fair bit of co-op (most of you?). I got this game a week or two ago, and so far I've just been playing single player with Axton. I'm currently just over halfway through playtrough 1, and am level 25 or so.

Anyway a friend of mine just got the game, and we're planning on going through co-op together. I'm going to start a new character to play with him, and am tossing up between Zero and Salvador. He's planning on going Axton, so which character do you guys think would work better with a commando if we're planning to play through the entire thing together? Assassin or gunzerker?

iTrust
Mar 25, 2010

It's not good for your health.

:frogc00l:

TheGreatGildersneeze posted:

One note: it was some other guy that made the 'girlfriend mode' comment about the Mechromancer, not Pitchford.


Also, Salvador all day, every day.
I've fixed this thing with a source link, turns out is was John Hemingway, the lead designer.

ShadowedFlames
Dec 26, 2009

Shoot this guy in the face.

Fallen Rib
Playing as my Lv 38 Maya in Normal, trying to clear out the arenas. On the way to the Creature Arena, killed Pimon (sp?) and got my first orange. Lv 20 Swiss Deliverance (Tediore shotgun) that homes in on an enemy when you reload.

Finally found my first item for the secret stash, methinks.

Draven
May 6, 2005

friendship is magic
Look at all the people spelling Maya wrong. She is clearly the best character. :colbert:

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Smelly posted:

Look at all the people spelling Maya wrong. She is clearly the best character. :colbert:

:hfive: drat right she is.

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

I have to say I really like how simple and light weight Tediore guns look, Hyperion guns look gaudy. :colbert:

(Also Axton is the best.)

KaiserSchnitzel
Feb 23, 2003

Hey baby I think we Havel lot in common

monkeu posted:

I've got a question for people who've played a fair bit of co-op (most of you?). I got this game a week or two ago, and so far I've just been playing single player with Axton. I'm currently just over halfway through playtrough 1, and am level 25 or so.

Anyway a friend of mine just got the game, and we're planning on going through co-op together. I'm going to start a new character to play with him, and am tossing up between Zero and Salvador. He's planning on going Axton, so which character do you guys think would work better with a commando if we're planning to play through the entire thing together? Assassin or gunzerker?

I don't think you can go wrong, but in all honesty Salvador will probably make you laugh a lot more than Zero will. I thought Gunzerking really sucked at first, then I figured out how to use the middle tree and not worry about the right tree.

Of course, I'm playing that character with a friend who plays a Maya, and Maya has that instaraise ability, so take that for what it's worth.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦
So is it just me or does Steady As She Goes have the wrong effect on Hyperion guns?

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
In all honesty I was very surprised that the last thread lasted so long as it was by far one of the lowest effort OPs I've seen survive in this forum.

That being said great work on this one.

Synastren
Nov 8, 2005

Bad at Starcraft 2.
Better at psychology.
Psychology Megathread




That is one handsome OP. :h:

Personally, I'm not sure who is my favorite, but I was really disappointed to discover that Zero is my least favorite. I really wanted to like a neckbeardy ninja with not-Phasewalk. :(

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Did anyone else hear Zero's line about "Death shall not capture me/My skills exceed his!" while getting a second wind. It's not mentioned on the wiki and I heard it last night while I was running through Hero's Pass to stomp the Warrior a few times. I'm curious what the full haiku is, because I missed part of it over the explosions.

nudejedi
Mar 5, 2002

Shanghai Tippytap

TheGreatGildersneeze posted:


Also, Salvador all day, every day.

True that. Gunzerking is too much fun.

ambient oatmeal
Jun 23, 2012

Arrath posted:

:hfive: drat right she is.

"Why did everything just start on fire?"

Playing with some friends who never bothered to run with a Siren is fun.

Monolith.
Jan 28, 2011

To save the world from the expanding Zone.
Gaige is fun but Maya is such an awesome character.

Nice OP as well.

Broose
Oct 28, 2007
I've never seen that wall street journal review until now. Man that guy is an idiot.

TheGreatGildersneeze
Feb 24, 2001
My passive aggressive shilling for Microsoft has gone beyond weird obsession levels. I have no attachment to reality outside of my feelings for a plastic box. I should shut my fat fucking mouth and stop trying to do PR for a billion dollar corp

nudejedi posted:

True that. Gunzerking is too much fun.
To expound on the greatness that is Salvador to the guy deciding between Zer0 and Salvador:

Yeah, it's slow going at first. But if you like the gimmicks in this game, and by that I mean the hilarious guns that make even more ridiculous things happen when you pull the trigger, why limit yourself to wielding one at a time? And also limit yourself to not screaming and laughing like a maniac while doing that? Also he can regenerate ammo with class mods. For the team, not just himself. It's basically everything good about every over the top "SHOOT EVERYTHING AND THEN SHOOT IT SOME MORE!" FPS game, like Serious Sam.

In fact, let's cut to the chase: You're pretty much Serious Sam with better one-liners and a Hispanic accent. But you can dual wield rocket launchers. Now would you rather do that, or speak in Haiku while you wield your anime sword?

Edit: Rocket launchers that you throw at the enemy like dumbfire missiles when you reload them.

TheGreatGildersneeze fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Oct 24, 2012

Broose
Oct 28, 2007
Its obvious that no one is talking about Axton Turret becuase it goes without saying it is the best and we are all just picking second favorites.

TheGreatGildersneeze
Feb 24, 2001
My passive aggressive shilling for Microsoft has gone beyond weird obsession levels. I have no attachment to reality outside of my feelings for a plastic box. I should shut my fat fucking mouth and stop trying to do PR for a billion dollar corp
You mean that busted rear end thing that keeps getting blown up? Yeah, I think I saw two or three of those the last time I never stopped shooting for about ten minutes straight. Didn't do much, though. Kinda sat there making sad whirring noises, wondering why it didn't have anything left to kill.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

All of those things are great, but the best is obviously thinking about someone holding still and being on fire and then having it happen just because you wanted it to. And then shooting them.

Maya, you are the greatest of space wizards.

RandolphCarter
Jul 30, 2005


I know they said they're planning on future DLC classes, but I really hope they're included with the other DLC bits. I've already spent $90 on this game I really don't want to pay more for more characters.

TheGreatGildersneeze
Feb 24, 2001
My passive aggressive shilling for Microsoft has gone beyond weird obsession levels. I have no attachment to reality outside of my feelings for a plastic box. I should shut my fat fucking mouth and stop trying to do PR for a billion dollar corp
Yeah but after you make a guy stop moving you have to wait around to be able to do that again. After I make a guy stop moving I've probably already put five hundred boolets into his cousin, his best friend, and their entire extended families. Also each kill lets me keep on keepin' on while also reducing the time between "no more targets left to extend my chain :(" and "'ZERKER'S DOUBLIN' UP!" :getin:

RandolphCarter posted:

I know they said they're planning on future DLC classes, but I really hope they're included with the other DLC bits. I've already spent $90 on this game I really don't want to pay more for more characters.
So don't? No one's holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy anything. I'm sure the five characters you already have available to you will be more than enough to enjoy the remaining DLCs.

TheGreatGildersneeze fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Oct 24, 2012

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
Gunzerking is the best talent ever. I love it more than my family.

RageBeef
Jul 27, 2010

TOASTY!

Night10194 posted:

All of those things are great, but the best is obviously thinking about someone holding still and being on fire and then having it happen just because you wanted it to. And then shooting them.

Maya, you are the greatest of space wizards.

Why are you stoping at just that? Why are you not suspending them in mid air, igniting him, bringing all his buddies to the party, then slagging, electrocuting, and corroding the whole lot of them all the while you're doing something like +150-200% damage with your gun (typically adding even more elemental DOT) and then when that guy you've phaselocked dies, he heals any damage you might have taken? Basically, Maya is the best :colbert:

edit: While Maya is a whole lot of fun to play, going back to BL1 for the first time in over 2 years reminded me how much fun phasewalking as Lilith is and wishing that somewhere down the line we'll get the chance to play as her again.

vvvv That's all well and good but I personally prefer a little creativity in my mass murdering of bandits ,local fauna, and robots. Running around simply shooting more bullets doesn't scratch that itch.

RageBeef fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Oct 24, 2012

TheGreatGildersneeze
Feb 24, 2001
My passive aggressive shilling for Microsoft has gone beyond weird obsession levels. I have no attachment to reality outside of my feelings for a plastic box. I should shut my fat fucking mouth and stop trying to do PR for a billion dollar corp
What buddies? All I see are these fleshy piles of Swiss cheese lying around!

Dross
Sep 26, 2006

Every night he puts his hot dogs in the trees so the pigeons can't get them.

That is an excellent OP. Also, it should be noted that the existing metatag is full but you can still add it as a friend and see the first 99 who friended it.

I may go through and prune those who haven't logged on in a while.

Synastren
Nov 8, 2005

Bad at Starcraft 2.
Better at psychology.
Psychology Megathread




TheGreatGildersneeze posted:

You mean that busted rear end thing that keeps getting blown up? Yeah, I think I saw two or three of those the last time I never stopped shooting for about ten minutes straight. Didn't do much, though. Kinda sat there making sad whirring noises, wondering why it didn't have anything left to kill.

Alternatively, I have a sweet rear end turret that shoots Rakk for me, and slags things so I can pull out one of the four elemental guns I have mapped for gigantic damage. Free slag debuff that blows poo poo up? Yes please.

GammaShade
Oct 10, 2005

CG: Boggle vacantly at these shenanigans.
I can't believe that, on top of the existing four amazing characters and Axton, they're putting out more characters. I would really be willing to call this a serious game of the year contender at this point. Handsome Jack is a really good, very human villain and the story is phenomenal compared to what we got in the first game. Gearbox is going to get all of my money.

GuardianOfAsgaard
Feb 1, 2012

Their steel shines red
With enemy blood
It sings of victory
Granted by the Gods

GammaShade posted:

four amazing characters and Axton

Woah woah woah there buddy, you got a problem with Axton? :clint:

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



GuardianOfAsgaard posted:

Woah woah woah there buddy, you got a problem with Axton? :clint:

Other than that he's a worse Gaige, not really. :science:

GuardianOfAsgaard
Feb 1, 2012

Their steel shines red
With enemy blood
It sings of victory
Granted by the Gods

Kyrosiris posted:

Other than that he's a worse Gaige, not really. :science:

How many nuclear explosion are created when your mechanical death-machine is deployed, huh? :smug:

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



GuardianOfAsgaard posted:

How many nuclear explosion are created when your mechanical death-machine is deployed, huh? :smug:

How often does your mechanical death-machine despawn, huh? :smug:

TheGreatGildersneeze
Feb 24, 2001
My passive aggressive shilling for Microsoft has gone beyond weird obsession levels. I have no attachment to reality outside of my feelings for a plastic box. I should shut my fat fucking mouth and stop trying to do PR for a billion dollar corp
Rakk? That's what the shotgun, SMG, spinigun or machine pistol in my left hand is for (depends on what I feel like hailing at my enemies). Slag is handled by stopping shooting long enough to throw a sticky homing slag MIRV grenade. And by "a" I mean "two" because I get to throw two of those at once and the second doesn't spend a grenade. That's sixteen grenades. Sixteen fire-and-forget grenades that slag and do 43,000x9 damage.

Also:

quote:

so I can pull out one of the four elemental guns I have mapped
Well here's your problem!

Illumination
Jan 26, 2009

Smelly posted:

Look at all the people spelling Maya wrong. She is clearly the best character. :colbert:

I like when she does a little chuckle/snort after she incinerates/slags/electrocutes/corrodes some one to death :3:

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GuardianOfAsgaard
Feb 1, 2012

Their steel shines red
With enemy blood
It sings of victory
Granted by the Gods

Kyrosiris posted:

How often does your mechanical death-machine despawn, huh? :smug:

Whenever I want it to. :smug:

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