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Where do I find that guy's lost axe on Fastland? There's a big axe on the ground in one of the ruined villages, but I can't seem to click it.
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Elswyyr posted:Where do I find that guy's lost axe on Fastland? There's a big axe on the ground in one of the ruined villages, but I can't seem to click it. It's in one of the villages that have an undead unit roaming in it. The village nearest the dude you get the quest from. Although I do not recall if it was from digging that you find it, or from killing the undead in the ruined town or just on the ground. Look for the treasure marks on your minimap to make sure!
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Oct 31, 2012 16:32
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I've killed every mob on the island, collected every treasure, and I just dug out every square inch of that village. Unless someone else knows where it is, I guess I'll just give up on this quest.
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Oct 31, 2012 16:55
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Sloober posted:Look for the treasure marks on your minimap to make sure! I was on the 2nd island before I noticed that, it's amazing how much is hidden by the crappy camera, I'm the type who just hammers D when running around too.
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Oct 31, 2012 16:57
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FYI so you can learn from my mistake: Valkyries can only be upgraded to level 4 with items so don't keep feeding them your loot when you reach that point. Also, items that are level 4 and higher can yield valuable talent runes when destroyed, provided you also have the Artifactor skill.
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Oct 31, 2012 17:52
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moot the hopple posted:FYI so you can learn from my mistake: How do you get them to 5? There is an achievement for doing so.
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Oct 31, 2012 18:52
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Sloober posted:How do you get them to 5? There is an achievement for doing so. After you get a valkyerie to 4, you can talk to her and get a quest. When you complete it she will level to 5.
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Oct 31, 2012 19:18
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Elswyyr posted:Where do I find that guy's lost axe on Fastland? There's a big axe on the ground in one of the ruined villages, but I can't seem to click it.
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Oct 31, 2012 19:22
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Pumpkinreaper posted:Also does anyone else think it's pretty obvious that MISTER CONSORT PRINCE
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Oct 31, 2012 19:42
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So I'm not as great as you guys and only playing on normal - but holy jesus gently caress the first boss was hard, I barely beat the stupid thing, was probably my closest battle in any of these games. Maybe playing a Blaster Mage for the first time wasn't the best of ideas in this game.
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Nov 1, 2012 00:35
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No, the boss is definitely bullshit no matter the difficulty, which is a shame because the game really opens up and gets fun after that. The spider can do no less than summon a bunch of minions that immediately take their action that turn, retaliate against ranged and melee attacks, web your guys so they lose a turn, and reposition itself away from your melee attackers. Oh, and its undead spider minions will occasionally leave those purple orbs that hurt your guys if they step on them or AoE explode if they're still around them. Not to mention you have to face an enemy hero afterwards, meaning after the inevitable loses you'll take, you'll have to schlep back to rebuild your army which disappears after that enemy hero fight  .
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Nov 1, 2012 02:26
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For the spider boss fight: Use a wanderer scroll for more leadership if you've got it, it seriously helps when most of your units can one shot the summoned troops of cursed spiders. Also try to position your troops attacking it so that there's only one on each side and one in the middle, that way only one troop will get hit when it retaliates.
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Nov 1, 2012 07:54
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Well I just fought the giant spider boss and wrecked it with Berserkers and Jarls doing most of the work. It sucks that I wasn't able to use rage skills but it was easy enough. This game is much easier than the legend and armored princess. Its nice that you don't have to keep running around to refill units that much but part of me feels disappointed. Still amazingly fun and addictive like the other two of the series though.
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Nov 1, 2012 11:19
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moot the hopple posted:No, the boss is definitely bullshit no matter the difficulty, which is a shame because the game really opens up and gets fun after that. About this. When exactly can you leave the continent you reach after that first boss fight? I have a boat, but the island travel button is missing. And talking to the fisherman guy only gives an option to pay 30k gold to pop over to another section of the continent. Does it get re-enabled after you head through the demon portal to retrieve the *whatever* for the prince consort? Or it it something painfully obvious I'm missing?
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Nov 1, 2012 11:47
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You need to be on the central section of the continent, greenwort. You can't sail to another continent if you on on a ship in the area to the south or east.
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Nov 1, 2012 16:28
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Velveteen posted:Well I just fought the giant spider boss and wrecked it with Berserkers and Jarls doing most of the work. It sucks that I wasn't able to use rage skills but it was easy enough. This game is much easier than the legend and armored princess. Its nice that you don't have to keep running around to refill units that much but part of me feels disappointed. Still amazingly fun and addictive like the other two of the series though. I'm finding this Spider harder than any of the battles in Armoured Princess, I just don't think I have the right army makeup for it. I've fought it a total of six times now - I killed it once, but it still had spider stacks left and I didn't have enough troops to actually kill them. I'm hurt a bit by the fact that in total over all the islands there's only been 10 Jarls and I've got only 7 left so I can't really use them in the fights. I'm really regretting being a Skald because holy gently caress are your songs absolute poo poo. I have Edda upgraded to level 3 and they still barely make a difference. I don't know if they're bugged or what, but so far only the Undead song actually seems to work. Incidentally I have picked up that Axe, but I don't know who it belongs to. As far as I know I've been to all the castles and such but I don't remember meeting anyone called Hakon! Taear fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Nov 1, 2012 |
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Nov 1, 2012 16:32
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The morale boosting song is also alright, morale is always good to boost. Generally though the songs are really lackluster, I wouldn't put more than one point in that skill.
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Nov 1, 2012 16:50
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Pumpkinreaper posted:As for King's Bounty: Armored Princess, it wasn't that it was difficult, it was just that early on it has really bad pacing for enemies, so that for a few levels you have to jump between islands, trying to find enemies that are easy enough for you to kill so you can move on to the next area and so on. I liked Armored Princess but this turned me off a lot and I never got past the starting areas, hopefully Warriors of the North is paced better.
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Nov 1, 2012 16:54
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Taear posted:Incidentally I have picked up that Axe, but I don't know who it belongs to. As far as I know I've been to all the castles and such but I don't remember meeting anyone called Hakon! He's an NPC on the same island that you pick up the axe on. He's hidden somewhere between an incline and a wall and is easy to miss. He's near the village you pick up the axe in, though.
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Nov 1, 2012 17:07
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I have the first King's Bounty game. How much am I missing out on if I play that instead of Armored Princess for now? I hear AP is the superior game, but the pacing is sort of bad??
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Nov 1, 2012 17:20
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The greed song is broken for me, but in a good way. It should give a minor initiative buff and a minor defense debuff, but it gives like 20 extra initiative for 6 rounds, while the defense debuff is still minor. It kinda breaks the game if you use troops balanced by their low initiative. And the elemental damage songs are great against ghosts and other high physical resist troops.
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Nov 1, 2012 17:23
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CerebralDonut posted:I have the first King's Bounty game. How much am I missing out on if I play that instead of Armored Princess for now? I hear AP is the superior game, but the pacing is sort of bad??
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Nov 1, 2012 17:27
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AParadox posted:And the elemental damage songs are great against ghosts and other high physical resist troops. They never seem to work, I am definitely not causing extra fire damage - I use that grease patch spell to test it and it's not doing a thing.
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Nov 1, 2012 17:40
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Taear posted:They never seem to work, I am definitely not causing extra fire damage - I use that grease patch spell to test it and it's not doing a thing. Just tried the fire song against ghosts with elven archers: Without, 1770 max damage, with 2440. Maybe it doesnt trigger things normal fire damage does, but its definitely noticeable
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Nov 1, 2012 17:56
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It's an AP trick, but as a mage, your best bet vs bosses is beefcake troops and Avenging Angel. Every time the spider retaliates, it'll take damage. If you can put 3 tanky troops in front of one leg and avenging angel all of them, he'll be taking a lot of extra damage every turn. Also, the elemental songs aren't extra damage. You do the same amount of damage, it just changes the type. It's not super useful against most things, and doesn't seem to affect abilities, only auto attacks. You'll see a huge difference vs things with high natural resists, however. Ghosts/Knights/Paladins have 50%+ physical resist, so changing 25% of your damage to Fire is a big deal. Stuff like bears have a fire weakness, but it's only 10%, so you're doing 2.5% more damage. Which isn't fabulous.
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Nov 1, 2012 18:15
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Taear posted:I'm finding this Spider harder than any of the battles in Armoured Princess, I just don't think I have the right army makeup for it. I've fought it a total of six times now - I killed it once, but it still had spider stacks left and I didn't have enough troops to actually kill them. Spider is where you have to realize that you will be in close quarters the entire time - so don't bring fragile ranged troops, bring melee troops that hit hard. Don't touch slingers. My spider troop was a stack of jarls, berserkers, skalds, soothsayers and a stack of priests. (Yeah priests, they can do good damage to undead spiders and are not entirely fragile). I stoneskinned my spider attackers which significantly helped. Restarted as a viking class and holy moly is it far easier than soothsayer was. Magic needs some retuning I think. Killed the giant spider in 4 rounds. compared to the 11 it took my soothsayer.
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Nov 1, 2012 18:48
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Andrast posted:The morale boosting song is also alright, morale is always good to boost. Generally though the songs are really lackluster, I wouldn't put more than one point in that skill. The undead song is obviously really great. It's like free rage/mana and a buff/debuff all in one song, and obviously you fight A LOT of undead. I use the elemental songs periodically but it's pretty hard to tell how good they are doing. The morale song is good too and its proc rate gets pretty high later on. I think I'm up to like 30% or something. Raising the Edda skill does seem useless. It's either not updating the tooltips correctly when you skill it, or it's just bad. I didn't care to experiment to figure out which. All in all, I've been very happy with my Skald. The only thing I miss is High Magic from my mage in AP. The resurrection skill is mostly just a lazy man's skill now so you don't have to recruit often. The resource saving aspect of it is completely moot with the millions of gold you get in the game. Honestly the best perk is just the even rune distribution. Mind runes were always a gigantic pain in the rear end when I was playing mage in AP, and I suspect it's the same if you play a warrior.
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Nov 1, 2012 22:50
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Rascyc posted:Honestly the best perk is just the even rune distribution. Mind runes were always a gigantic pain in the rear end when I was playing mage in AP, and I suspect it's the same if you play a warrior. I mean, a level of learning early on isn't a bad idea, or power of spirit and sense weakness. They aren't really necessary in order to get your rage destruction engine going though. If anything you end up with too many mind runes early on when you would rather have more might and magic. Filthy Monkey fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Nov 2, 2012 |
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Nov 2, 2012 01:01
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AHAHAHAHHAAHHAA (I had close to this amount earlier on in the fight but two heavenly guard died before I remembered to take a screenshot)
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Nov 2, 2012 01:31
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Filthy Monkey posted:Not really so much for warrior. You generally aren't in any rush to plumb the depths of the mind tree. You mostly want to get rage control, anger, bloodlust, and runic power online from the might tree in order to start laying the rage smackdown. From the mind tree you want order, distortion magic, and transmute so you can keep spells like mass bless and mass haste/slow going. The damage reflect skill I am not too keen on. It just amounts to graphical spam now. Thankfully even as a Skald, you can rocket straight up the right side of the warrior tree for all of the rage poo poo. It's not very mind rune intensive.
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Nov 2, 2012 01:44
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I kind of regret rushing to the bottom of the mind tree since Favorite of the Gods returns way too little damage to be appreciative and Warriors of Valhalla doesn't really affect me since I'll either go no losses or just lose one or two units, and ressurection only triggers when you lose more than that. I imagine they get better with more than one rank in them but there's way more better stuff to invest for the runes. The clear winners for me are Diversions, Learning, Sense Weakness, and one or more ranks of Tactics depending on how badly you need to get things in melee range. The lower right hand, Persuasion and Oratory, also looks really promising in late game; can't wait to find a stack of Black Knights to mix up with my regular army  Also, Diplomacy seems to still be bugged, convincing a similar unit to join your stack will make it go over leadership requirements and lose control in battle. Similarly, Edda's Chaotic Elf song is bugged because it will occasionally bless enemies and curse allies.
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Nov 2, 2012 03:13
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moot the hopple posted:Also, Diplomacy seems to still be bugged, convincing a similar unit to join your stack will make it go over leadership requirements and lose control in battle. Similarly, Edda's Chaotic Elf song is bugged because it will occasionally bless enemies and curse allies. You say "occasionally" but it's practically always, it seems.
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Nov 2, 2012 03:48
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I do remember getting super-excited about the second rank of Tactics in the last game(s), yet this game I have no idea how I ever won fights before my current "usually-two-Rage-blasts to start the combat plus mostly ranged-fighting-annihilators ensuring nothing actually gets more than half-way across the map." This is probably a cowardly way to play 
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Quarex posted:I do remember getting super-excited about the second rank of Tactics in the last game(s), yet this game I have no idea how I ever won fights before my current "usually-two-Rage-blasts to start the combat plus mostly ranged-fighting-annihilators ensuring nothing actually gets more than half-way across the map." This is probably a cowardly way to play You're not playing King's Bounty right if you don't occasionally feel sorry for the AI.
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In King's Bounty: The Legend do troops in castles and other locations ever replenish themselves? I'm running out of some stuff already.
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Nov 2, 2012 11:23
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EDIT: Wrong game... but the information might still be useful so whatever: After certain main quests some will get stocked with new/different/more units. I don't recall which one's offhand beyond turning in two of the artifacts to the prince consort on the three-part continent. Finishing the Captain of the Guard's (in the same place) three side quests opens up new units in that location as well. ---------------------------------- On Fastland there's a Gate Guard who gives you a "Beast Hunting" quest to find him something like 10 Bear Pelts and 20 Wolf Pelts. I thought this meant grab some Bears/Wolves... but that didn't work. Are there actual pelts somewhere to grab? Fighting Bears/Wolves doesn't seem to help either. Offkorn fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Nov 2, 2012 |
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Nov 2, 2012 11:43
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Cuatal posted:In King's Bounty: The Legend do troops in castles and other locations ever replenish themselves? I'm running out of some stuff already. Troops in castles usually replenish on plot movement, like initially after you defeat the turtle the main castle will have upgraded troops and better ones, and some may have changed to "horde" level - which means they don't run out. Best way to work on not running out of critters is using spells like trap and casting summons to make it so you don't actually lose troops anywhere. Things like beholders/evil eyes etc are really nice because not only can they do respectable range damage but also have a chance of putting a unit to sleep and missing their next action.
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Relentless posted:You're not playing King's Bounty right if you don't occasionally feel sorry for the AI. Also, almost every group of enemies the game throws at you has "internal fantasy army consistency" going for it, except when beholders show up with completely arbitrary groups all the time. Poor beholders, they do not have any logical friends Offkorn posted:On Fastland there's a Gate Guard who gives you a "Beast Hunting" quest to find him something like 10 Bear Pelts and 20 Wolf Pelts. I thought this meant grab some Bears/Wolves... but that didn't work.
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Nov 2, 2012 16:47
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Can someone tell me how to get the Butterfly quest done? I cannot dock it, because there's a loving huge rock in the way.quote:In King's Bounty: The Legend do troops in castles and other locations ever replenish themselves? I'm running out of some stuff already. The only time I felt it didn't really work was in Crossroads/AP - it feels like the game is built around having a themed army of undead, humans or whatever. Usually you can't actually HAVE a themed army though, because the supplies just aren't there for you to recruit.
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moot the hopple posted:I kind of regret rushing to the bottom of the mind tree since Favorite of the Gods returns way too little damage to be appreciative and Warriors of Valhalla doesn't really affect me since I'll either go no losses or just lose one or two units, and ressurection only triggers when you lose more than that. I imagine they get better with more than one rank in them but there's way more better stuff to invest for the runes. The clear winners for me are Diversions, Learning, Sense Weakness, and one or more ranks of Tactics depending on how badly you need to get things in melee range. The lower right hand, Persuasion and Oratory, also looks really promising in late game; can't wait to find a stack of Black Knights to mix up with my regular army I actually skipped sense weakness for now, I need to go back and grab that but mind runes and maxing oratory right now. Persuasion is actually kind of lovely, I think? There's really not that many hostile races going around so you can just raise it as necessary. Tactics always seemed pointless to me with improved haste in the game, and having to deal with tactics every fight just feels like a waste of time. I've yet to run into this diplomacy bug with only 1 rank.
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