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Finally got through the backlog of posts in the new thread. Nice work on the OP RGBurgler.
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HKR posted:VC/emulation just isn't good enough for this thread I actually disagree with this personally, but don't really bring it up here because of the anti-emulation sentiment. For my needs and I would argue most people's needs, 16-bit and prior eras are effectively solved problems. I'm a technocrat. 
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Nov 8, 2012 04:21
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HKR, that's a pretty badass haul. I like the way you bought all of the Guilty Gear incremental releases. But I see CvS1, but not CvS2. Did I miss it? If not, it's a criminal oversight. At least they play substantially differently than the Guilty Gears which are more or less obsoleted by each successive version. Also, is that first item... a fuckin' Pocket Station?! That is simultaneously cool and not cool at all. Do you have Ridge Racer 4 and FF8? They are the only two US games I can think of off the top of my head to support the Pocket Station. What a silly accessory for $35 2000 dollars and now, they only cost $.50. The new thread seems to be moving pretty fast with the holidays/SS. I declared Retrothread bankruptcy and skipped about 10 pages.
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Nov 20, 2012 20:42
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I'm thankful for hanging out in this thread with all you peeps. Serious retro post. Happy Thanksgiving to all you US folks. For the benefit of non-Americans, thanksgiving is when you had to go over to a relative's house and play mirror universe games you only played once a year. Like how I would go play up to level 3 on Zelda because I never had enough time or skill to play further. Next year, I'd start again because my file would be deleted probably the next day. Post your weird Thanksgiving retro games memories ITT while you are waiting for your secret Santa stuff to show up.
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Nov 22, 2012 21:28
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I was going to straight-up suggest getting a PS2 and component cables. What exactly was it about the PS1 emulation that you didn't like? I like it a ton - especially over component with the smoothing on.
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Nov 27, 2012 20:27
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^^^ Were you connecting them both over the same physical video format? A PS1 hooked up over composite is going to look "smoother" thanks to the NTSC artifacting and bad color separation compared to say, a PS2 hooked up over SVIDEO or anything else. Also, anything that helps to increase color separation and decrease NTSC problems is indeed going to make the PS1 games look super jagged. Because that's how they look. zenintrude posted:So it did, my mind is going... I'm the RFU DC output that nobody ever ever ever used.
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Nov 27, 2012 20:41
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Code Jockey posted:The hell you even connect to that, anyway? I spent a few minutes looking it up. It looks like it's a "Sony standard" DC output to some kind of "Sony standard" RF adapter. Edit: Re MM's shopping cart. Is $13 really fair market for Zelda 1 NES? Ugh.
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Nov 27, 2012 21:04
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Kilazar posted:I'm not going the ps3 route. I don't even play my xbox360 these days. Plus cost of entry is just too steep for me. Not going to plop 250 to play some old games. If I'm going to do that, the 250 is going to my CIB copy of chrono trigger that I want in my collection. And even that will probably never happen lol. Even on an SDTV, if you hook up a PS2 over component cables (I used to do this on my old non-progressive SDTV) and don't think it looks crazy better than composite something is straight up wrong. It could be the cables are shorted, it could be you don't have the TV or PS2 set up correctly (check it's set to YPbBr not RGB - not many monitors actually have RGB), it could be several things. It could be your component port is physically broken on your TV. But if everything is correctly configured and you still prefer a composite connection over SVideo or component, then there is something wrong with your eyes!  Yes, you will notice the aliased edges on polygons and serious texture warping due to the PS1 not having hardware transform, but those were all in the original games. It was just harder to make out these problems in fidelity because consumer video displays of the time were pretty much garbage.
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Nov 27, 2012 22:26
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There was a booth that was selling this kind of thing at the Portland Retro Gaming Expo. Small ones were $40+. I can't imagine what they would have charged for one on this scale. That's really neat.
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Nov 28, 2012 00:46
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Panic Restaurant posted:I thought I did, but it's entirely possible I'm stupid and did not. Based on another post, I'm pretty sure I had it set to RGB and not that Ypr thing. Time to try again! Yeah, I'm kind of the YPbPr guy in this thread. You only care about it semantically until after you have been screwed by the difference between RGB and YPbPr both being correctly described as "component". RadicalR posted:Preordered this already. I like the color red and it's a top loader. Good enough for me. It's the shameful Wii. Did you notice it has no Game Cube compatibility and no Online/WiFi/Networking? So no virtual console and no Metroid Prime. Oh, no GC Ikaruga either. 
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Nov 28, 2012 02:08
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Kreeblah posted:FPGA stands for Fully Programmable Gate Array. Basically, it's a set of logic components that can be programmed to link together however you want. This lets somebody, for instance, design a CPU in a hardware description language, push it to an FPGA, and then run code on it (I've done this). If you've done this you should tell people that it actually stands for "field-programmable gate array". 
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Nov 28, 2012 08:13
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Miyamotos RGB NES posted:The best thing I ever learned about a multimeter is the "continuity" check thing it has on it. The digital audio mod for the SNES is incredibly difficult, partially due to the soldering points being so ridiculously tiny and close to one another. I just followed the pin using the trace to one of those little holes (whatever those are called) and used a multimeter to make sure I was soldering it to the right place. Those little holes are called "vias" as in they move signals between the different layers of the board via the holes. PTH are another technically correct way to describe them as vias are almost always plated through holes. In expensive high-end multi-layer PCBs with certain mechanical requirements (like hermetic seals), sometimes you'll have blind vias which don't penetrate all the way through the board, but those are uncommon on most consumer goods. brian posted:Man I can't wait for my arcade cabinet to get here, I keep buying far too many arcade boards while it's getting its monitor chassis refurbished Oh man, Third Strike is totally my favorite Street Fighter. One can easily argue that it's The Best street fighter too! I know I'm a bit of a rarity in this thread for liking remakes and not really caring about original hardware too much, but the Online Edition of Third Strike on PS3/360 is super fantastic if you're looking to play the game. I played really frequently about a year ago and now I go in every other month or so for an evening to get absolutely wrecked by the only people who play Third Strike: the Japanese and crazy hard-core American fighting fans that I can barely stand a chance against. In summary, Oro supremacy! Speaking of cabinets, anyone have any suggestions on how to go about purchasing an inexpensive cabinet? Ideally I'm looking for a two-player Astro City form factor that I'll be using to house consoles. So I'll be replacing the monitor, controls etc so I really just care about the cabinet itself.
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Nov 28, 2012 19:48
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Technowrite posted:I'm in Texas this week for work, so I got a chance to drop in a local Game X Change. Prices were pretty good, and I'm excited I walked out with all this for $24. Man, Bloodlines alone was worth that. Nice going! A loose copy of Bloodlines for less than $20 is my white whale.
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Nov 29, 2012 08:06
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Panic Restaurant posted:Also if anyone noticed my fumbling with my PS2's component setup a few pages back, the settings on my TV were all kinds of wrong and now it looks just fine. Glad to hear it. I was pretty sure that something was "wrong" even if it meant something was physically broken. The stuff you were describing didn't make sense. Enjoy your superior color separation and progressive scanning Ratchet and Clank games. Oh, SSX3 has progressive too. And Soul Calibur 3 (but i'm a fighting game nerd and SC3 has been totally obsoleted for any number of reasons).
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Nov 30, 2012 18:16
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Code Jockey posted:Yeah I really really liked FF7's background scenery too. It was a really awesome setting. That's an easy thing to objectively compare. I mean, I'm sure every poster in this thread will all agree that Crystal Pepsi was way better than New Coke. 
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Dec 1, 2012 00:29
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Fluffdaddy posted:Chrono Cross has the hands down best soundtrack to ever come out of Square. Yasunori Mitsuda's soundtracks are some my favorites too. More recently he contributed to Kid Icarus Uprising (as part of a dream team which also included Yuzo Koshiro of Streets of Rage fame (Who more recently has been doing Etrian Odyssey)). The game itself received mixed reviews for the gameplay, but was universally praised for its soundtrack. Mitsuda also has a pretty  twitter account. He got a kitten a few years ago and he tweets pictures of him sitting on his lap at the keyboard.Sources cited!
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Dec 1, 2012 01:10
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techknight posted:Also I think that Zelda 1 was fine when released, but is crap now because of discoverability. You can't make progress using only in-game resources without randomly bombing all the squares, so I don't think it's right to keep praising it. Same deal with Metroid 1 and 2 not having a map feature. This is a well thought out post that acknowledges the importance of Zelda (And Metroid) in historical context. It also points out that there have been demonstrable advances in the science of game design. cosmicjim posted:Doesn't sound like valid excuses to me. This is victim blame.
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Dec 3, 2012 19:19
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The Joe Man posted:Speaking of which, I plan on building an emulation box in the somewhat near/middling future. NES, SNES, SMS, SG, SCD, S32X...any other good systems to add? I'd lump in N64 but the only controllers I plan on buying are 2 of these when the price drops again: http://www.madcatz.com/sfxtekken/fightpads.html This is almost spot on to what you're looking for.
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Dec 3, 2012 21:36
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ACID POLICE posted:HKR you piece of poo poo I had that Lunar Saturn game in my cart and then it was sold out. We've reached peak video games and the locals are turning on one another. I guess we had a good run.
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Dec 6, 2012 17:53
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Robolizard! posted:composite. upgrade from composite. OK team, listen up. Here is your official C-named video format mnemonic. No more confusion after this post! "If it seems like poo poo, it's composite. / If you want to bone it, it's component." Everyone got that? Good! Stay tuned next time for a rude limerick about S-video and how RGB and YPbPr aren't the same thing.
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Dec 8, 2012 01:54
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The Fixit Felix Jr. machine is cool. I love how they put the effort into making it distressed and aged. I watched a documentary of how Disney made props for their rides and how they made them look old. They have two art teams and they each make stuff as it would have looked brand new. They then swap all the props and bash them in, break them, hit them with sand blasters and leave them out in the rain and sun. The reason they have two art teams is so you don't have to distress your own work, because it's bad for morale and it doesn't end up getting good results.StellarX posted:$15 haul from a local yard sale. Yeah, that's a great find. Nice job. Now you'll have enough  to go and get pretty much the rest of them."Every Super Nintendo game for $25k" e: For additional context, this is Byuu's reference collection that he was using for BSNES development. Antillese fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Dec 10, 2012 |
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Fluffdaddy posted:You might wanna cross reference the going price on Odyssey 2 stuff on Ebay before throwing it up for 100 bucks... My aunt gave us an Odyssey 2 circa '86. It sucked, and 6-year-old me knew it sucked too.
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Dec 10, 2012 22:24
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HKR posted:Hey I'm somewhat finished with this project: Nice work. I'm thinking of doing that myself. Looks like I'd want to add the Imp board too since I primarily play on 360 and I'd be modding MadCatz SE PCBs. I don't think I "get" the RJ45 thing. What's the deal with that? Is it just a universal harness termination jack that translates it back to the board that you can easily reterminate other console proprietary connectors to? Hey, what's your plan for Astro City? I'd love to get a cabinet of that form and I don't know what to do to start. My objective is to basically "consolize" it and use it with consoles instead of arcade boards, while retaining the stick panels and a Cthulhu board to talk to the 360/PS2/3 etc. Where does one buy a specialty cabinet like that?
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Dec 11, 2012 06:57
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You're going to need a cat to chew through all your crap and distract you when you're trying to time a difficult jump. That's funny.
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The art and science of video game cartography was significantly advanced and refined in the pages of Nintendo Power. I had a few of their maps books and I didn't even own an NES as a kid. I was especially partial to the big SMB2 one. look for that liiiitle Mario about the width of every screen or so.
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Dec 12, 2012 01:57
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Code Jockey posted:Willing to trade for a copy of Shaq-Fu? It's always 1994 in the Retro thread! No thanks. I'd prefer Sonic & Knuckles, Earthworm Jim, Metroid 3... or the real killer video game gift of 1994: the 32X!
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Dec 20, 2012 23:04
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Ambitious Spider posted:So my genesis 2 a/v cables don't fit my genesis 1. No, Mini-DIN-9 is not compatible with Mini-DIN-8. Just go buy one. The 9-pin was used on the 2/3 Genesis models and I think 32X.
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Jan 4, 2013 18:44
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Miyamotos RGB NES posted:You...might have solved my lengthy problem with my Sega setup. I had my Genesis wasting 2 SCART ports on my switch because the 32x will not play Sega Master System games. So if I want to play Sega Master System, I have to take out the 32x, which is no good because then the drat thing need a totally different A/V port. I did not know they were generic connections, though (Mini DIN 9 is a new term for me). Now to see if there's a dongle or switch or something to convert mini DIN 8 and mini DIN 9! No, because the pinout is different and don't map pin-to-pin. That's intentional. Here's the reference. I mean, I guess you could get a 9-wire cable, and the 8 and 9 pin mini plugs and manufacture your own convertor cable, but... just don't do that. It's really not worth the time or trouble. Just get a Genesis 2, mod the audio amps on the motherboard if you really think you can hear the clipping (you probably can't) and use that for everything. e: Actually you might want to add http://www.gamesx.com/avpinouts to the OP if it's not there already. I've used it a bunch.
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... and Capcom vs. SNK 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2QHpL-LphM
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Mercury Crusader posted:Capcom vs. SNK was only on the Dreamcast. Capcom vs. SNK Pro, an updated version of the game, was on the Dreamcast and Playstation 1, though I believe the Dreamcast version of that game never made it to the states, and the Playstation version was garbage. CvS1 absolutely was released in the US on the Dreamcast. It was too early in the PS2's life though so it wasn't released on the superior Emotion Engine technology. Instead, it was down-ported to PS1 as CvS:Pro where they added new features like, Dan, Morrigan, missing animation frames and terrible horrible loading times. It's terrible. CvS2 was released on PS2 late in 2001 and if it was released on vinyl, I would have worn a hole through the DVD. I agree that SNK v Capcom Chaos isn't very good.
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8-bit Miniboss posted:Hey... Man, that game. I plowed through it in 1998 and never again. All of the flaws you've heard about it are true. The pacing is terrible and the story is sometimes  . At other times the story ends like this:  . That's where they just kind of closed the text editor they were writing in. On the other hand, Mitsuda's score is really good, and the art direction is cohesive and strong. It's quite a good looking game for it's era.All that being said, it sure is something that was made by people who cared about what they were trying to do instead of just optimizing marketability. Like FF8. Yeah. I went there. FF8 sucks. Miyamotos RGB NES posted:My bad. I don't play the game and simply heard firsthand from a friend that he needed to be online to play 1 player mode. That is correct. You do need to be online to play Diablo III. And personally, the complaining about it mostly comes from pirates or edge cases. I think it's a lot of fun... if you are playing hardcore mode! 
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Jan 9, 2013 23:41
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Hey watch how you talk about the self-proclaimed 'greatest role-playing adventure on the PC'! I had an ATI Rage Pro Turbo 2X. I hated it.
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Jan 10, 2013 18:55
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Portland has the Powell's Books chain which carries a really nice mix of new and used books. In the suburbs, one is located next to a Game Trader which is kinda skeezy. Here's my trip (to Game Trader) report.
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Kramdar posted:I spent less than five minutes in that store back in 2008. It looked like a hoarding nightmare, and that's based solely on the display window out front. And once inside I remember just seeing display cases being jammed full of crappy NES games. It's one of the saddest looking used game stores I'd been in. I'd rather dig through the bins at that 'by the pound' Goodwill that's not too far from there. The Game Trader's window display is a literal hardware graveyard. They have a cardboard backing behind it and when another Saturn dies or an SNES pad can't be resurrected, it gets chucked over the wall. What I'm saying is that it hasn't changed in 5 years. Hell, I remember going over there in high school with a friend to buy FF Tactics brand new and it was basically the same shop then.
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Caitlin posted:A. Nobody confirmed that it absolutely will never be announced yet If you want to make a motion to ban Earthbound release chat in the Retro Thread similar to how the fighting games thread has a No-Smash rule, I'll second it.
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Jan 24, 2013 00:04
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Earthbound discussion is endless rehashed debates.
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Jan 24, 2013 00:46
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The new Wind Waker is likely physical. It's going to be out by "fall". They are also releasing Metroid 3 for $0.30 on the Wii U virtual console as a launch promotion. Playing Metroid 3 would be a pretty good excuse to spend $300 I guess. Caitlin posted:To address all of this, I don't really mind discussing ridiculous prices on it or whether or not people should play it or anything, but yeah the endless discussion about the potential maybe maybe not re-release that may or may not ever happen and all the hypotheticals about it can stop please and thank you! At least I know I'm not alone in being exhausted by this discussion! But Caitlin, all Nintendo would have to do is ...  .You know what? I'm going to risk getting reported over it. Pirate the drat thing. Problem solved. 
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^^^^ Edit: Both of those are valid answers. As is Prime 1. ----- From the title screen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chh6RAjGohw (Nintendo) 1994 NINTENDO PRESENTS METROID 3 Super Metroid™ ©1994 Nintendo "Super Metroid" is the sub-title. 
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Doug Dinsdale posted:Nobody has any clue as to how simple supply and demand works. Re: Pro athletes salaries. False dichotomy. Pro athlete salaries are actually lower than what they should be overall due to collective bargaining and legal exemptions from anti-trust regulations afforded to the major sports leagues. At least in the US. In Europe it's another matter entirely.
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Protip: Get a model 2, don't worry about it and go play a drat video game!
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