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Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post
FYI:

quote:

Minimum Specs
CPU: Intel Core2 Duo E6700/AMD Athlon64 X2 6000+ or equivalent dual-core
Video: Nvidia GTX8800/AMD Radeon HD2900 or equivalent 512MB DirectX 9c card
Memory: 4GB

Recommended Specs
CPU: Intel Core i3-530/AMD Phenom II X2 565 or equivalent quad-core
Video: Nvidia GTX480/AMD Radeon HD5770 or equivalent 1024MB DirectX 11 card
Memory: 4GB

Hi-Performance Specs
Video: Nvidia GTX680/AMD Radeon HD7970 or equivalent shiny new DirectX 11 card
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K/AMD Bulldozer FX4150 or equivalent quad-core
Memory: 8GB

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Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

gibbed posted:

Those requirements are probably way overestimated, remember, this game will have to be able to run on consoles too.

However, RAM is cheap these days and an upgrade to 8GB is a good idea (if you're not on 64bit, you should upgrade!).

Welp. Regardless, I just ordered parts to upgrade my system to probably the halfway point between Recommended and Hi Performance.
  • Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo)
  • MSI Z77A-GD55 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
  • Antec Three Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
  • 2x G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) [16GB]
  • 2x COUGAR CF-V12HB Vortex Hydro-Dynamic-Bearing Silent Cooling Fan [intake]
  • COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler
  • Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound
After I RMA my GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC (2GB) due to failed fans, I should be set for Far Cry 3. I'm not sure how much better a GTX 680 and i7-2600K system would perform. I'd wager not by much though... unless Far Cry 3 takes advantage of PCIe 3.0's extra bandwidth.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

doctorfrog posted:

The only mods I have been able to find do this: unpack some of those game assets, among which are bits and pieces of scattered and scrambled files, editing a single configuration XML file, and zipping the whole mess back up, never really sure what you're leaving behind.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3421214 (requires archives upgrade)

I'm not sure if gibbed ever posted about his fcb breakthrough.

That said, I think Nexus needs to be lobbied for a Far Cry Nexus if we're going to have a remotely nice modding scene for Far Cry 3.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

gibbed posted:

That thread was entirely about the FCB breakthrough. Well, mostly.

"I don't remember reading anything about how to mod in your own mortar shooting crossbow" is what I'm saying.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

ToastyPotato posted:

So is there any legitimate reason NOT to preorder this? I am not usually one to preorder anything, but seeing as the game is only a couple of weeks away, I'm thinking about it, if only to also get Far Cry 1 for free (because hey, free game!)

Far Cry 1 only comes with the deluxe edition preorder. The deluxe edition includes these DLC:

quote:

  • The Monkey Business Pack: Meet Hurk and his explosive bomb-carrying monkey in four heart-pounding missions and get two bonus ways to humiliate your friends in multiplayer.

  • The Lost Expeditions: Discover the secrets of the island’s lost World War II ruins in two suspenseful action missions, and unlock the power of a shotgun in a one-handed flare gun in multiplayer.

  • The Warrior Pack: Strike fear in your enemies with an exclusive dagger and get an early unlock of the tattoo editor in multiplayer.

  • The Predator Pack: Hunt four ferocious animals with the M-700 Predator Rifle in single-player and silently kill opponents with the unlocked Predator Bow in multiplayer.

  • The Survival Guide artbook (pdf file): Discover unique artwork and insider information to help you survive the insanity of the island.

  • The game soundtrack

If I had to price these DLC for post-release, I'd say that they would cost (in order) $9.99, $5.99, $0.99, and $1.99. If ever sold separately, the soundtrack would probably cost $9.99; although, digital soundtracks are almost always in a lossy format (i.e., mp3.) I don't think artbooks are ever sold outside of deluxe editions unless they're printed. So, the deluxe edition looks like the best deal to me.

Note: I've barely played Far Cry 2 and never played Far Cry 1, but I think Far Cry 3 has gone in a great direction based on the one video I watched.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXVuF3IWSSA

And I'm building a new desktop, triggered by this game's "hi performance" requirements.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

odark thirty posted:

Watch the multiplayer preview where they demonstrate post-match torturing and executing the best player on the losing team. Gave me a pretty good idea of what FC3 is all about.

Seriously? That's like judging Assassin's Creed 3 on the basis of its multiplayer component, or Quake 2 on its campaign.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post
I almost upgraded to my new Far Cry 3-ready system last night. I had everything assembled and ready to go, but the motherboard was DOA! RMA'd. So, I guess I'll get my replacement board along with, I hope, my fixed GTX 560 Ti in one to two weeks. In the meantime, Assassin's Creed 3 and Hitman: Absolution appear to run just fine with a 2.5 Ghz CPU and a GTS 250.

Also, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus is HUGE! To install the fan on the MSI Z77A-GD55 motherboard, I'd have to reverse the fan to pull air from the other side of the heatsink because the fourth RAM module nearest the CPU would not otherwise fit. The Antec 302 Mid Tower is amazing though, so the CPU fan is not really necessary because of the case's airflow. There is a 140mm exhaust fan on top of the case, a 120mm fan on the rear, a 120mm intake fan behind the CPU, and a 120mm fan on the side for the expansion cards.

Finally, if you're thinking about upgrading your system and you have a PCI card, newer motherboards don't have PCI slots. You'll need to buy a StarTech PCI Express to PCI Adapter Card or just a new PCI Express card. I bought the adapter card because I have pro audio requirements and pro audio cards are really expensive.

I'm probably most excited by the RAM upgrade though. I have 8GB of DDR2 PC2-6400 (400 Mhz) RAM in my current HP system. I'm curious about how much better will 16GB of DDR3 PC3-12800 (1.6 Ghz) perform.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

AngryBooch posted:

Holy poo poo this is FPS Assassin's Creed.

That was my impression, too, but there are some differences that make Far Cry 3 more than just Assassin's Creed 3 On A Tropical Island.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

im a girl btw posted:

I am a bit gutted that I have to get it on PS3 though, I upgraded everything but my graphics card last year (my desktop is for making music) and I don't think my lovely 9600gt will handle it.

Your 9600 GT might meet the minimum requirements. Joystiq's example minimum card is the 8800 GTX, which is just slightly better than your card with Far Cry 2.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/09/25/far-cry-3-pc-specs-outline-your-chances-of-survival/

http://www.hwcompare.com/4178/geforce-8800-gtx-vs-geforce-9600-gt-1gb/

In any case, minimum on a PC will most likely be superior to max on a PS3 and who knows how much your CPU will impact performance.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

blackguy32 posted:

Ram question: I technically purchased 4 GB of ram. But Device Manager in Windows says I only have 3.5 gigs of ram. What is the true number?

Memory Limits for Windows Releases

A 32-bit OS can't address more than 4 GB. Also, if you have a 64-bit OS and you're still seeing only 3.5 GB available, then other components of your system are not 64-bit. You need to have a 64-bit CPU and motherboard, too.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

blackguy32 posted:

It doesn't use Steam DRM. It uses U-Play DRM so you will still have to go through U-play anyways.

Far Cry 3 requires a one-time activation, but there is no always-on component.

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/farcry_3_pc_system_requirements_drm_scrapped.html

In fact, Ubisoft has been phasing out always-on DRM since June 2011 in favor of the UPlay launcher.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/09/05/ubisoft-doing-away-with-always-on-drm/

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Space Hamlet posted:

The Far Cry 3 guy has talked about how the player ought to feel like an actor. Bad vibes.

The "Far Cry 3 guy" is the lead writer, not the lead designer. His talk was more of a writer's lament than a clue to the game's creative direction.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/181662/Far_Cry_3_wants_to_turn_players_into_performers.php

Adraeus fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Nov 26, 2012

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Capn Beeb posted:

I'd like a character that is not conflicted about being a bad person.

How about a character who's conflicted about being good?

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

blackguy32 posted:

Those are just a few off the top of my head.

Far Cry 3 also features exploding arrows reminiscent of gibbed's mortar crossbow mod for Far Cry 2.

gibbed posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KOczi2DHFw

Note that the crossbow was a completely new addition to the game (aside from reusing existing assets). Unfortunately I couldn't drum up enough interest into modding Far Cry 2 three years after it came out, there was some minor stuff that happened, but eh.

Bob NewSCART posted:

Sounds pretty dope. What are some of those things you can do in your spare time? Shooting pirates in the head is fun but it can get a little repetitive I would think

Why are you asking? Seriously, go watch the videos. EDIT: Also, ignore Bloodmobile. What a jerk. Far Cry 3 is getting 9/10 and 10/10 reviews from just about everyone.

YouTube Search: "far cry 3 open world"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXVuF3IWSSA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAjdxBLEiqk

Adraeus fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Nov 27, 2012

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Bloodmobile posted:

Ignore me all you want but those videos don't show anything to do in the open world that I didn't mention.

Your misleading list is missing racing, poker, knife throwing contests, offroad vehicles, hang gliders, jet skis and boats, and a lot of side quests.

But no review has touched on everything Far Cry 3 has to offer because the game is so huge. One reviewer put in 40 hours only to reach the halfway point. The explorable area is 10 times the size of Far Cry 2. Everything that everyone hated about Far Cry 2 has been corrected, including the addition of wildlife and the removal of respawns.

Far Cry 3 is Skyrim, Assassin's Creed, Red Dead Redemption, Hitman, and Grand Theft Auto rolled into one massive open-world first-person RPG. You're not going to convince anyone that there's "not a hell of a lot" to do in Far Cry 3.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Someone captured a glimpse of the wingsuit and parachute in a trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gdl3w5tXoY

Also, there's a plane, at least in the campaign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvtqOag9f-4

Adraeus fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Nov 27, 2012

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

bobservo posted:

That reviewer must have been doing every *possible* thing in the game, then, since it only took me 18-20 hours to max out my main character and finish the game with a lot of extra missions under my belt. (I reviewed it for 1UP.) That's not a bad thing, though; Far Cry 3 really does hit that sweet spot in terms of length.

Actually, a few reviewers mentioned spending 40 hours on the single-player campaign.

"Ubisoft's Uplay service doesn't seem to record the length of time played, but doing the maths I think I must have put in somewhere between 30 and 40 hours. This only places me around the story's halfway point, which gives you some idea of the size of this game."

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/games/blogs/screenplay/far-cry-3--just-this-once-believe-the-hype-20121127-2a41r.html

"With an enticing storyline of revenge at its heart, it’s a co-op mode you’ll want to see through to the end, which adds to the already deep and lengthy play time provided in the single-player campaign (I didn’t count, but I must have spent 40 hours on it)."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/gaming/game-reviews/far-cry-3-only-the-best-shooter-of-the-year/article5480020/?page=all

"The story alone will take at least 20 hours, and bump that up to a good 30-40 hours if you want to see all the single player has to offer."

http://www.gamingexcellence.com/xbox360/games/far-cry-3/review

GUI posted:

Is it The Saboteur, Postal 2, Rage, Wolfenstein 2009, Metal Gear Solid, Saints Row, Sleeping Dogs and True Crime as well???

Yes! :newlol:

GhostDog posted:

Actually, those benchmarks are with 4xMSAA, this is without AA:


Why are they benchmarking with a system that doesn't meet the "hi performance" requirements? Only 8 GB RAM installed? People really don't understand the difference between memory installed and memory available.

My new system will be configured like so:


I bet I can get a solid 30 fps (with some irrelevant features disabled)! Only cost me ~$900 with S&H/RMA. :cry:

Adraeus fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Nov 27, 2012

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Shumagorath posted:

I think he killed more tigers than there are left in the actual wild.

That's the only thing I don't like about this game. Putting endangered Bengal tigers in the game was simply insensitive given what happened last year. Well, at least they're not real.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

The Saddest Rhino posted:

I dunno man, there were way more wild animals than Bengal tigers in that incident, so we might as well get rid of all predators and monkeys in Far Cry 3, and the only animals you can thrown at your enemies would be corgis and pomeranians (someone please mod this).

I'm not against hunting. I'm against hunting endangered animals. I'd be completely okay with the tigers in Far Cry 3 if they were modelled and textured after extinct subspecies or ancient species. Or if they used a uniquely patterned texture that wasn't representative of any tiger subspecies.

Creodonts, for example:



Or smilodons:

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

gibbed posted:

Steam preload is up.

Preloading now. I'm going to try the VPN unlock trick on Thursday since I should have my new rig built tomorrow.

Bob NewSCART posted:

I think you're blowing this a little out of proportion... They're using the Bengal tiger because its the most well known and stereotypical tiger. Not because it's an endangered species

Actually, I don't know if they're using a Bengal tiger, but all subspecies of tiger are endangered, so that doesn't really change anything.

Adraeus fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Nov 28, 2012

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Screenshot of the PC map editor:
http://postimage.org/image/h0redah5x/

Cave editor videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQH-VAIiptg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08F2qU02j4U

Adraeus fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Nov 28, 2012

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

gibbed posted:

Steam preload is up.

Also, the game is a 8.2 GB download for PC.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Max quality screenshots:
http://kylen.minus.com/mEMkoQGxNAYuH

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

gibbed posted:

An Australian VPN should let you decrypt in Steam in ~7 hours, but who knows if uPlay will let you play. You can already obtain your CD-key through Steam without a VPN, too.

What time does the game unlock in Australia? I just signed up for a month of PureVPN ($7.96). EDIT: The Australian server did not work with Steam. PureVPN also gave me a really hard time about a refund.

Adraeus fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Dec 2, 2012

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

gibbed posted:

If you are willing to spend money, http://vpnsecure.me/ is a cheaper choice (I've used them before), $2 for two day trial period (though less cost effective if you want more than two days, and repeatable).

Now I remember that I used that service once before, too. Oh well.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post
FYI: I couldn't connect to Steam through PureVPN for some reason. I was using their client. I could connect to Steam through VPNSecure.me after setting up a PPTP connection using the standard Windows 7 interface though.

numptyboy posted:

It keeps cropping up but ive never seen any accounts or examples anywhere.

That's because most people don't understand how to read agreements, how they're structured, etc. The part they always cite (without context) is actually placed specifically under "Payment Authorization" in the subscriber agreement because Valve doesn't want to be defrauded.

Then they read "geographical restrictions on game content," but staggered release dates aren't restrictions; some content is actually prohibited/banned in certain locales. Using Steam to circumvent those prohibitions means using Steam to break the law. Valve will never encourage criminal behavior regardless of whether such behavior is just. Only Google has enough clout to flout empires.

Of course, then they point to the apparent catch-all "for any other reason," but this goes back to my point about how most people don't understand agreements. "For any other reason" in a section titled "Payment Authorization" implicitly means "for any other reason related to payment authorization."

If Valve had a policy against using VPNs to decrypt preloads early, they would explicitly say so clearly and in a section separate from terms regarding how payments are authorized.

Furthermore, there are multiple business reasons why preventing legitimate customers from accessing their expensive game library is bad for business. Simply put: if you damage someone, you risk a lawsuit; if you piss off the wrong people, you get sued; if you get sued, your dirty laundry is made public; if your dirty laundry is made public, you lose consumer trust; if you lose consumer trust, you lose publishers and developers; and if you lose publishers and developers, you lose content, which is your entire business.

So, basically, if you don't defraud Valve or Valve's partners, you're safe. That said, there's always incompetence, but you're never safe from that.

Adraeus fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Nov 28, 2012

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

gibbed posted:

Also, logged into vpnsecure.me to be greeted with this. :v:

I spent $8 on PureVPN and $2 on VPN-S. Apparently, with PureVPN, you need to ask for a dedicated IP, but I'm unsure if that will even work. If not, then I'm going to try to get a refund. VPN-S works though, so I'll probably use that. With VPN-S, do you have trouble accessing any part of Steam that is not your library? The homepage and the Far Cry 3 store page won't even load when I'm connected through VPN-S.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Found this on another forum:

quote:

Download VPN client from VPNsecureme (https://www.vpnsecure.me) and connect to Australian server, let Steam reconnect
Connect using (will edit before release to avoid suspension)

Username:
Password:

Decrypt the game
Launch it and then exit
Turn off VPN and create a txt called "steam_appid" which should ONLY contain 220240
Put the txt next to the exe for the game (example: x:\Steam\steamapps\common\Far Cry 3)
Launch the game from the exe and NOT from Steam next time.

This way you can play the game without going offline or use VPN all the time.

Maybe people can refer to this post because we all know people will ask, ask and ask how to connect.

The game is decrypted and ready to go. I configured the controls and in-game settings. I only have a GTS 250 and my old 2.5 Ghz system right now, but I noticed that Far Cry 3 defaulted to an "optimal" setting and most of the graphic options were set to "medium." I haven't tried playing yet. I'm backing up the game files first before I disconnect the VPN. But I'd wager that the game will still look great on sub-ultra settings.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Bloodmobile posted:

First time installation has 9 steps, the gently caress is this?

It's easy to skip the common dependencies with a .reg file. I just wish gibbed would make a tool that automatically scans for dependences and imports the relevant keys. Why gibbed? Because he's smart.

If you're using Windows 7:

Copy the following to a text file. Save as fc3import.reg. Double-click the file. Import.

If the import was successful, Steam should skip the initial setup procedure. Just make sure you have the dependencies installed. You can do this with other games if you replace the app ID and add the right keys.

code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Valve\Steam\Apps\220240]
"D3D11 Support"=dword:00000001
"DirectX"=dword:00000001
"Firewall-D3D1"=dword:00000001
"Firewall-D3D9"=dword:00000001
"Microsoft .Net Framework - Win7"=dword:00000001
"Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 C++ Redistributable"=dword:00000001
"Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 C++ Redistributable"=dword:00000001
"Punkbuster"=dword:00000001
"UplayLauncher"=dword:00000001

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post
By the way, although I decrypted via VPN, I had to replace Uplay.exe with a "fixed" version because the Uplay launcher wouldn't let me back into Far Cry 3 without a CD key. Since I already used my CD key, Uplay was just telling me that. EDIT: That said, the game still won't launch.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

gibbed posted:

Instead of doing that, try running farcry3.exe or farcry3_DX11.exe with the arguments -uplay_steam_mode -language=English -steam_mode

That worked!

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post
With low-quality textures and everything else on medium, the game looks as good as Skyrim without the HD texture packs.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post
I encountered a progression-stopping bug right before the first real mission. I can't get out of a jeep. The game says "Hold [I] to exit the vehicle" but nothing happens when I do that.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

gibbed posted:

Did you rebind it? The default key is E.

I reset the keys to default and I can now get out of the vehicle.

TheSadPope posted:

Am I the only one who keeps getting "Please wait for a connection to the Far Cry 3 server" when I go in the menu? It's been happening non-stop for the last hour and it usually crash the mission I'm in.

Yes. No crashes yet, but the game keeps trying to dial out.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

gibbed posted:

Set uPlay to offline mode in settings. Or you're in for a world of hurt while the game servers are down. I just bugged out and fell out of the world and was unable to save, losing some progress thanks to waiting for an error message to pop up.

Great idea! I have a feeling that this is going to be a great game hampered by bugs and Uplay.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Mokinokaro posted:

UPlay has gradually evolved from a horribly annoying and intrusive system to something actually quite decent.

I rather like Ubi's achievements/unlocks system they have going.

If the UPlay servers go down, your game crashes.

gibbed posted:

The Insane Edition/Digital Deluxe content pack is all of the preorder DLC for every retailer, aside from the soundtrack/survival guide. I posted about this earlier in the thread.

Do you need to unlock the digital deluxe content with a code?

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

GUI posted:

I did 3 main missions in 3 and the story is atrocious compared to how great everything else is.

In my opinion, "atrocious" is an exaggeration. I happen to like the story.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post
ANOTHER DOA MOTHERBOARD! :argh:

At this rate, I won't have my new system running until next year.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Cardboard Box posted:

You know one thing this game is missing? The ability to go prone.

...and the ability to drag bodies. You can only drag bodies immediately following a takedown with a particular skill.

Also, I don't think you can walk.

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Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Cardboard Box posted:

So far, my favorite part of moving around is that you slide down steep inclines, and it actually feels like you're sliding.

I just learned how to peek around corners from a loading screen. Raising your weapon while against a wall indicates that you can peek around a corner or shoot from cover.

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