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jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
With NM's box, we bought a new LGT gearset and had it WPC treated. So far so good, as far as I know anyway.

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Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


Hmm, haven't heard of WPC treatment until now and I'm intrigued, looks like it would be good value for the money invested. I'm more leaning towards a quick rebuild that just replaces what needs replacing than a proper rebuild for durability. I really like the 6 speed box and from what I remember when I drove in an STI, the shift feel is much improved over the 5MT, and I don't want to invest too much in this transmission because I'm planning on the six speed swap.

I don't want to go through the hassle of selling another transmission (shipping cost ended up being almost half the selling price of the transmission and shipping was a huge hassle, I swear FedEx freight just hates business) and if I build this one up really tough I'll be inclined to keep it, It'll end up being good enough and it'll stay. Going the cheap route I know going in that it's meant to be temporary so I'll still have that push to go to the 6MT.

What do you guys think, I'm kind of on the fence now whether to go with the STI 6MT or build up the 5MT to be bulletproof and throw some LSD's at it? I'm still leaning towards the 6MT because extra gears are fun and it ditches the viscous center for a proper DCCD. Plus I'm already this far down the rabbit hole, why not go a little farther and crazier, to see where the road takes you.

In other news, here's a quick video showing off how awesome the Altima's clutch is, It's been like this for about a year or two now, kinda acts like a torque converter if you ever accidentally dump the clutch at a light. I really want to take it apart once it gets retired from duty, the clutch/pp and flywheel are probably a work of art by now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeNYh3qnq5A

Kinda shaky but I tried youtube's stabilization and it just made it look like complete rear end so enjoy the shakes!

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
My friends at motoiq and some race teams I know swear by wpc, but no matter what you do the 5-speed is never bulletproof. The stock lgt gearset is something like $1200 then wpc is a couple hundred plus shipping to and from california, then the work to install them and any extra bearing/syncro parts you might need. So you are pretty far towards a used 6-speed by then. And with the 6-speed you get really awesome front and center diffs, and don't have to worry a whole lot about it.

That clutch reminds me of a kid that brought his low mile 350z into our shop. I still can not figure out how he got it there as I had a hard time even getting it to the lift. Put in 1st gear, take foot off clutch, car slowly creeps forward on flat ground. A whole lot of floorin I guess.

jamal fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Feb 24, 2014

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Get a 6MT and ship your large items Greyhound.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


OK, I got peered pressured back onto the 6MT, haha. I think I tried greyhound but they don't ship cross border and this was going to PA.

As for the dying clutch chat, I know a guy who has an 08 TL-S that had a dead clutch, the funny thing was he didn't realise it until me and my friend told him after we took it for spin. You could tell the moment you tried moving it in the parking lot that it was toast. Apparently he had his 'mechanic' check it out before he bought it and he gave it the all clear after a test drive :wtc: Funny enough he felt that his clutchless TL felt faster than his new-ish 350Z (I've never driven it so I can't comment if it's terribly broken or if hes just got a weird sense of speed). How the hell you can figure out how to drive manual (even poorly) without noticing such a dead clutch? Money definitely doesn't buy you sense.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Just chiming in to Nth the 6MT. Don't piss around with breaking 5 speeds. Just go big...and get STi Brembos, too.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)


Wish I had video of how bad the clutch was in my last Civic when I picked it up - the tl;dr is it took several minutes to get up to about 40, and you couldn't use 5th at all.

It was fun driving it home after buying it like that. Sucked rear end getting it in the driveway though, had to get a decent running start. At least the parking brake worked..

Best $200 car ever though. :allears:

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


Larrymer posted:

Just chiming in to Nth the 6MT. Don't piss around with breaking 5 speeds. Just go big...and get STi Brembos, too.

I do want those STI brembo's, the only issue is that I've got the 5x100 hubs on there now, and I just threw on a set of brand new wheel bearings on all 4 corners, would be a bit of a waste to replace them again that quickly. Any idea if I use rotors from the 04-05 STI (those are the ones that have 5x100 hubs, correct?) and bolt on the brembo's from a newer 5x114 STI or is the mounting different? Going to have to figure out something for the rear as well, not sure how I would end up mounting the brembo's back there. I definitely have to figure out what I'm going to do. This would be so much easier if I had the parts in front of me and I could just quickly glance and say, "yup that'll work" or figure out a way to get things mounted.

If I get my way with buying a salvage STI that's 08+ then I should have plenty of parts to work with, not going to delude myself in saying I'll make up the difference selling parts, it's been a huge hassle dealing with NASIOC and (non)buyers in general and I still have a pile of parts that aren't sold. Best bang for buck seems to be going the salvage route, unless I get a really good deal on most of the pieces I need, I just don't want to be nickle and dimmed buying all the little extra's that I'll need.



As you can see, the oem brakes on the Baja are no slouch, my current setup is vented brembo disks w/ Hawk HPS pads all round. Although with the extra weight of the turbo motor... More braking power never hurts, and the brembo's just look cool too.

Then again, fitting STI hubs all round (assuming they are a direct swap, or easy enough to swap anyway) should save me the trouble of having custom axles fabbed up. A guy locally had them made up by some company in Indiana I believe and he's saying his ran him around $400 a pair, so $800 for the set. Only thing is I would have to go wheel shopping again.

With how the rear suspension is setup, I don't know if it's possible to swap on STI hubs in the back anyway, I think I heard they're physically larger than other subaru hubs but that's not confirmed and I might have just confused something or dreamt it up.



The Baja's rear suspension design, disregard the X-ed out parts, I used this photo to show what I wanted from that salvage Baja I was mentioning before.


some texas redneck posted:

Wish I had video of how bad the clutch was in my last Civic when I picked it up - the tl;dr is it took several minutes to get up to about 40, and you couldn't use 5th at all.

It was fun driving it home after buying it like that. Sucked rear end getting it in the driveway though, had to get a decent running start. At least the parking brake worked..

Best $200 car ever though. :allears:

Honestly, the old beaters with the laundry list of things that aren't quite right with them are the best cars. So much character, and soul, like the way top gear portrays Alfa's. They've got a certain charm about them, the little tricks you learn to get them to do exactly what you want. They feel very much alive, not sanitized and humorless. Plus if they pick up a door ding, or more scratches, it just adds to the character. The care free attitude you can have with a beater is a great experience, never have to worry about crowded parking lots or someone damaging your immaculate car, You can push shopping carts out of the way without getting out, you can drive it how ever and where ever you want.

I love the excitement of driving the Baja, hearing that engine work is like listening to a symphony with so many things making noise, and the new Veloster is really neat with all its tech gadgets and creature comforts, but the old Altima, the cheap rust bucket where the carpet is structural and sheer willpower is keeping it running, that is special. I'll miss this piece of poo poo when it's gone.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
What parts do you have? I'm working under a self-imposed "used parts only" moratorium on the daily beater project. Send me a PM with your junk pile/price list.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
No, there isn't really a good way to go 5x114. I hear you can machine the hubs for the 08+ bearings.

Otherwise the sti front calipers are all the same. I would consider just doing the 300z front rotor thing wrxbrakes makes if you want something a little better and leave the rears.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


Seat Safety Switch, PM sent.

Quick look around, it looks like enough people want brembos that there are some funky adapter kits available. I like the added braking force the brembo's would provide and they just look cool as hell too, although the oem brakes are pretty drat good and they were forceful enough to almost lift the rear tires off the ground when braking full force.

This one is for the LGT, they share the same 5x100 bolt pattern so I'm guessing the fronts will work, the rears I'm not sure if the LGT has a different rear drum size for the parking brake...
http://www.fastwrx.com/wrxstibrbrfo.html

Since the WRX guys upgrade their rears to the H6 rears that the Baja came with stock, so I'm guessing the rear parking brake size is the same, so then this kit might work for getting the rear brembo's on
http://www.fastwrx.com/rebradkit.html

But then again it lists it as 05+ legacy so from that I'm inferring the earlier ones were different.

Currently, I've got the front hubs from the 2010 WRX and the rear is 2003 Baja, so I've got to work around that as well. Would it be really stupid to put brembos on the front and the Subie 2 pots on the rear, or just leave the rear OEM? There's brake bias to worry about, but I'm not sure how that would play into with the different calipers. I'm kinda rusty on brake theory.

If/when I get the salvage STI, I can either play around with fitting those brembo's or sell them and figure out a different way to improve the braking, or spend the money on different mods.
Maybe it'll be simpler to fit the Subaru 4 pots, I think I've heard they're a direct swap. Big brake kits are pretty much universally crap/too expensive right? I never see anyone with a big brake kit installed so I'm kinda thinking there's a reason for that.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


So, my reliable daily driver isn't really reliable. Cold temps have caused a no start condition with the Veloster, it was at the dealer yesterday and the day before and they couldn't reproduce it, but looking from the video I took of it not starting they're thinking it's the ignition relay. Today it refused to start again, called the dealer and now I'm just waiting for a tow truck to take it to the dealer so they can do a proper diagnosis on it.

Video of it having trouble starting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsesHFSsckc
This was already after a few attempts, this time I decided to actually record it

The altima started this morning without a hitch, and it wasn't plugged in (the plug actually fell off because of the cold a few weeks ago :v:), the Veloster is sitting pretty in the driveway. :bang: We bought a new car to avoid this type of problem. :argh:

Bajaha fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Mar 2, 2014

Bulk Vanderhuge
May 2, 2009

womp womp womp womp
:smith: This weekend is the worst possible time for something like that, loving never ending winter.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
Rear FHI/Subaru 2-pots give the same brake torque as the brakes you have on there now. 00-09 Legacy and baja and outback are all the same for brakes/parking brake/hubs so those adapters will work. The kartboy adapters should too, which I can get. Then you need these rotors: http://www.rallysportdirect.com/DBA-42657S-4000-Series-T-Slot-Slotted-Rotors-Rear which are the right shape for brembos and the small parking brake.

Expensive rotors plus $200 brackets plus the calipers and stuff adds up pretty quick. Not sure it's worth it.

For bias, the "h6" brakes you have and the Subaru 2-pots use the same diameter rotor and have the same size pistons so bias doesn't change with them. And you need adapter brackets to put those I too. The brembos actually have a smaller piston according to the brake math spreadsheet I have, so putting them on will move your bias farther forward than just doing the fronts.

My suggestion would be either just put on the front brembos, or you can use nissan z32 calipers with a Legacy GT front rotor and a bracket, or the 328mm stoptech front bbk if you want some really good brakes, and leave the rears stock.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


Huh, didn't know that. I have to admit, I got a little suckered into the whole more pistons = better mentality. If the rear brakes are fine left alone while I play with putting something bigger up front then I'll go that route, That stop-tech kit looks pretty sweet, can you send me an email with a quick low-effort quote? Just curious what the price is like for a bbk. If I do end up with an STI wreck then I can always sell off the brakes as a kit (they seem to go fast on NASIOC so I don't think I'll have too much trouble moving them) to fund a StopTech BBK or go the Nissan route.

The DBA rotors with the STI brembo's in the back would look really neat, but all that extra expense for something that doesn't have any real benefit, and might actually be slightly worst, doesn't seem worth it. The stock brakes are surprising capable with proper pads, but it would be nice to be able to really push it without worrying about brake fade and any of the different brake upgrades I'm considering look cool too.

So far the list of poo poo that needs to get done in order of descending priority are:

Fix 5 Speed to get it driving
Source and swap an STI 6 speed, either full running gear from someone or buy a wreck and take it apart myself
Put on a set of Racecomp coilovers to replace the whiteline lowering springs and tokico hts struts, I want it to sit about 1/4"-1/2" higher to give me more clearance (ruined a set of tires because of a lack of clearance on the BC trip)
Figure out which route to take with the brake upgrade and do that

The huge pile of bushings is going to be put in once I get that rear subframe and assorted rear suspension pieces in the spring.

So this was my Saturday, and yeah Bulk Vanderhuge this winter needs to leave, this rollercoaster of temps we've had lately has been torture, spring is such a cock tease. It hit -50*C with the windchill today (-58*F for the those in the US), A week and a half ago we had close to 0*C highs :cry:


Uploaded the video from the other day, put in the post above but it'll probably be missed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsesHFSsckc

This just sucks, we've had the car for exactly a week, it had trouble starting 6 times already (first couple times I thought maybe my fiance didn't push the clutch in all the way or something), it spent 3 of the past 7 days at the dealership (dropped it off Wednesday evening, picked it up on Friday, and had it towed there again this morning) This was supposed to be the reliable daily driver, the whole point of taking the initial depreciation hit on a brand new car was to take advantage of the low financing and have a trouble free car. I hope it doesn't give us any more trouble after this is fixed.

Bajaha fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Mar 2, 2014

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
I currently have the same brakes as you, which are an upgrade over stock, with stoptech pads and a master cylinder brace. Pretty happy with how they work, but I would like to go to 4-pots up front and maybe a single diaphragm booster. I don't need bigger rotors at this point because I have no power.

The 300z caliper is basically the same as the 4pot but a little wider and fits the 316x30 lgt rotor. Sti is 326x30. The downside is that you get slightly more front bias because the pistons are larger, but not as much as stock lgt brakes.

Stoptech is a much stiffer caliper, and uses a wider 2-piece rotor with better venting. But it's most expensive and might not fit under your wheels.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


Is there a commercially available master cylinder brace for the Baja/Legacy? Or am I going to have to figure a way to fab one up? When I was bleeding the brakes, before I built a pressure bleeder, I noticed a ridiculous amount of flex on the firewall. Tried looking online but I couldn't find anything, maybe I was just looking in the wrong places. If you can get one then tack it on to my current order and send the invoice.

Current wheels can always be changed, although I really do like my current ones, there looks to be a lot of room now with the Enkei FD-05 17x7 +40 but I can't really grasp how big the stop tech calipers are. The other wheels I've through of using is the stock WRX wheels from the 2010, I think they're like most other Subaru wheels 17x6.5 +45 I think? Want to trim it down to just two sets of wheels and sell off the legacy snowflakes with the grabber AT2 tires and the steelies with the Nokian tires. I'll miss the Nokian's since they've been awesome but I know any bigger brake calipers won't clear the 16" steelies.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Bajaha posted:



This just sucks, we've had the car for exactly a week, it had trouble starting 6 times already (first couple times I thought maybe my fiance didn't push the clutch in all the way or something), it spent 3 of the past 7 days at the dealership (dropped it off Wednesday evening, picked it up on Friday, and had it towed there again this morning)

That does suck. With that start, I'd be looking/planning to drive it for a while and have a lemon law buyback.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

But.. but... it's not a Corvette. :saddowns:

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


meatpimp posted:

I'd be looking/planning to drive it for a while and have a lemon law buyback.

Apparently Canada doesn't have a lemon law, we have something called Canadian Motor Vehicle Arbitration Plan (CAMVAP) which seems a little vague with how it's written compared the US lemon laws I've read.

http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/oca-bc.nsf/eng/ca02324.html

http://www.gov.mb.ca/cca/cpo/camvap.html

http://www.camvap.ca/faq/

Doesn't look like a fun process to go through so I'm hoping this rough start isn't how the rest of ownership is going to be. I remember reading Das Volks issues with the vette and cts-v, and I don't remember it being a very positive experience.

Maybe I should have gotten the toyobaru :cry: I probably could have kept it stock for at least a year, I think.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


There has been progress... on the Veloster, not the Baja.

First things first, quick summary of the events that have occured.

We purchased a brand new Veloster and took deliver on Friday afternoon Feb. 21.
Dropped it off at the dealer on Wednesday morning Feb. 26, for the no-start issue, was given a base Elentra as a courtesy car (200km on ODO for the Elentra)
Picked up Veloster on Friday afternoon Feb. 28, gave in the Elantra with ~400km on the ODO. Total driven in Elentra: ~200km
Towed (via roadside assistance) Veloster to dealer on Saturday morning Mar. 1, after another no-start. Picked up another Elantra, this time with ~190km on ODO.
Almost picked up Veloster yesterday Mar. 6, but it faulted right before pickup so left for another day at the dealer.
Picked up Veloster today, Mar. 7. Final ODO in this Elantra: 1043km
They replaced the starter and starter relay under warranty.

Total driven with Veloster: ~500km
Total days with Veloster: 5

Total driven with Elantras: ~1050km
Total days with Elantras: 10

I have owned an Elantra for twice as long as the Veloster we've bought.



During this process we discussed with the dealer some form of compensation for the trouble and inconvenience that was caused by our brand new car not starting (missing work, not being to plan our day, etc) and we've come to an agreement that they're installing the Hyundai Performance Axle-back Exhausttm (Really overpriced fancy muffler, dealer would normally charge $650+tax+installation) free of charge and to my understanding we're also getting a $100 gift card to a restaurant of our choice.

There really isn't much in terms of accessories that we'd want, A factory remote start was out since that's apparently auto only, and the auto-dimming mirror is a US-only option so the dealer couldn't get one in. Other accessories include such fun things as mudflaps that are pretty much there in name alone (tiny, dinky little things) assorted overpriced floor mats, a weird roof diffuser ala the Mitsu Evo style (looks kinda odd in the dealer pic and can't find anyone online who has one so no good pictures to compare), a front strut bar, and one of those awful looking plastic bug deflectors (in my opinion they have no place on anything short of a truck)

Crossing my fingers that we'll have a trouble free experience from here on out. knock on wood.
If there are any more issues like the above, we'll push for them to replace this one with another Veloster or for an outright return. With Canada's lack of proper Lemon laws I'd rather have a longer history of trouble before I commit to dealing with the hassle of getting the dealer to take this car back. So far the ownership experience has been ...rough.

Only picture from Hyundai's website:


"Add a deeper exhaust tone to your Hyundai with this high flow axle-back exhaust system. Designed as a bolt on application which requires no cutting, this exhaust system will look and sound great for years to come."

And the only picture of the exhaust I could find online because it doesn't look like a lot of people opted to buy this really overpriced muffler:
Apparently the guy who's picture this is says the exhaust note reminds him of the STI rumble. I guess I'll see when it comes in, should be in on Monday.



And here, have another picture of the non-starting lemon from when we picked it up, contrast set all the way to 11 :smuggo:

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


It's been a while since I did an update with Baja content so here goes. Missing driving the Baja and had some free time today so I thought it would be a good time to warm up the Baja (you know, get it all up to operating temp to make sure it still runs and everything is ok, fine. I came up with an excuse to start it and remind myself what I'm missing) Looking through the vids I have, I realized I didn't actually have any decent clips of what the current exhaust setup sounds like, so here's a video showing off the noise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqKHJHXzylk

Just a quick free rev, small blip, big blip, and some LC action, nothing too fancy.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


So, more troubles with the Veloster and more goodies bought for the Baja, I swear poly bushings are my crack. I'll update the list of bushings and parts once I pick them up from the US.

Veloster somehow managed to tear a hole in the tire bead on a flat smooth road, when it happened I thought maybe it picked up a nail or something, nope, so such luck. Dealer wants over $250+tax for the one lovely Kumho Solus tire, gave me the run around with saying that I have to contact the tire manufacture directly for any warranty replacements. Calling about a dozen different numbers trying to reach the right department/company and when I finally got through to Kumho directly, all I got was a phone maze where none of the options pick up and there's no way to leave a voice-mail. Talked with the guys at the dealer again and was informed the warranty procedure had actually changed and that they'll take care of the claim. In the mean time I'm stuck on a temporary spare. That whole mess occurred on Monday, as of yesterday, Saturday, they haven't done anything in terms of filing a claim w/ Hyundai. As I posted in the hot hatch thread, we're having a whole bunch of little problems with the Veloster and now we're trying to contact Hyundai Canada directly in hopes of getting a replacement. In the mean time I have to keep alert and take note of any issues we have with the Veloster so that I have a strong case if this issue ends up going to arbitration (no actual cut and dry Lemon laws in Canada as I poster earlier)

The whole point of taking that initial depreciation hit was to have a care-free ownership experience and not having to worry about repairs or reliability. Instead we get to deal with this bullshit every week.

So yeah, it's been a really lovely ownership experience so far. I like the idea of the Veloster (turbo, 3door, quirky, bunch of tech toys, etc) it just looks like we got a dud.

Currently debating getting a vanity license plate, fiance wants to get TURB-OH, I'm leaning towards KDM POS, just need to figure out how to get it past their screening process.

In lighter/less frustrating news, I finally got a comparison video of the new exhaust vs the old exhaust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjaRmfB_Lrg

At first the new exhaust sounded really airy, almost like a quieter external wastegate dump from 4k rpms to redline, but after a couple hundred km's it seems to have broken in and sounds a little richer and deeper. I've still got to grab an in-car video of it. For a factory exhaust it sounds ok, quiet around town and on the highway while making some noise when you goose the throttle, makes the veloster not sound like a corrola so that's a plus. Honestly I'm not too big of a fan of it, but it could be worst, and my fiance likes it. If I had actually bought it from the dealer I'd probably be really disappointed, for close to the same price you could easily get a cat-back.

I do like how the Veloster cackles all the way down the rev range, probably one of the best features of the new batch of hot hatches. Video doesn't really capture it well (I need to find a cheap external mic, anything would probably better than the internal mic on the camera) but I can assure you, it sounds fun in person.

Bajaha fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Mar 30, 2014

este
Feb 17, 2004

Boing!
Dinosaur Gum
FWIW bypassing the stock air filter and resonator box produces a much improved engine sound, at the expense of being a little Vatozone-esque. Also, the stock intake is better placed with regards to air temp.

But, since I own the non-turbo DCT, it's not like I have a lot of power to lose anyway!

Hansolio
Nov 4, 2009

I W A N T M Y M T V

I found this on eBay on accident:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hologram-Ca...2558194&vxp=mtr

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


este posted:

FWIW bypassing the stock air filter and resonator box produces a much improved engine sound, at the expense of being a little Vatozone-esque. Also, the stock intake is better placed with regards to air temp.

Eh, once this whole slew of problems settles down in a year or two I might start tinkering with it. For now I want to keep it as stock as possible in case the situation gets worst and we have to push for a replacement.


Hansolio posted:

I found this on eBay on accident:


Ahaha, it does get towed an unreasonable amount for a new car, I guess I'm not the only one. Why the hell they think a fwd hatch needs to be flatbed towed rather than a standard tow, who knows.
And "Drivers are cautious about using my car" Engrish or admitting that they're afraid of it breaking down on them :v:

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


Hey, guys... these cookies don't smell right...



Oh, wow. How did that get in there?



Quick test fit for a possible HID retrofit. Picking up a set of Honda S2000 projector housings and figured I'd try my hand at playing with the headlights. I'm aware, I'm a light whore, for me more light is always better! (as long as you're not an rear end in a top hat who blinds everyone else on the road) Picture is with an Acura TSX projector I had kicking around, don't have the S2k projectors in my hands yet.

Hopefully it all turns out well. Progress will be slow as always, shiny things distract me too easily.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


Turns out when people say the S2000 projectors are huge, they weren't kidding. It's getting tough to fit them in without running into clearance issues. I want to stick with the S2k projectors as I've got a set of them and they're supposedly one of the best low-beam projectors out there. All the mockups are done with the old lights and a trashed S2k projector (reflector bowl coating is flaking off). I ordered a fresh set of Depo lights to cut up off of amazon so I can go hog wild with these and not have to worry too much if I gently caress something up. If it does turn out to be impossible to fit the S2k projectors, I'll have to either get another TSX projector from somewhere or go aftermarket and smaller.



The projector is already getting really close to the high beam, I don't want to completely remove the high beam so I'm going to have to figure out how to make it work.



I've still got some more room before it hits the lens so I can always try bringing it a little closer to the front to get the rear to clear.



And this is going to have to be figured out. As it sits the rear cover won't close with the projector that close to the edge, can't really move it much lower because of the high beam, Can't angle it because then I'll be projecting into the sky, only options seem to be to either trim the rear cover so that it clears, or moving the projector a few more cm forward so that it doesn't interfere with how the cover locks into place.



The reflector has huge gabs because I played around with different mounting positions and trying to figure out how to mount the TSX ones in case the S2k ones do turn out too big, I kept trying to mount it too far back and the rear of the projector would not have fit at all. With it that far forward I'm worried finding a shroud that'll look good will be difficult. It'll get figured out somehow. And yeah, for testing purposes, hot glue works wonders. Lets get crafty :razz:

Slow is Fast
Dec 25, 2006

God drat.

When you have that figured out, I should mail a set to :canada: to have you retrofit.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


Haha, Thanks. I am getting better with each try.

Took the other headlight out and gave it another go. The pictures are a little boring as they all look very similar, but eh, suck it up.
Much cleaner cut


Fits much better


A little cocked to the side so I'll have to make sure the projector is actually sitting level when I'm doing the final version of the lights.


Front cover fits, and looking good.


Rear has more than enough room to clear the cover.


That's it for now.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
I want to do that too, but wanted to buy the glass jdm lights to put them in so it will be like a $600 project.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Hell, with the new WRX and its fancy-rear end LED headlights, HIDs aren't even the fanciest possible headlight technology in a Subaru.

Also, I desperately want to swap an FA20DIT into something. That spool.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
Just the bottom mount TS manifold on a ej25 makes a huge difference. The torque curve of a newer Legacy GT blows the standard UEL manifold out of the water. I'm shocked they're not using it on the 2015 sti.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


Yeah, everybody is going LED lighting and I'm stuck here in the stone age with HID's. Oh well. The new Accords with the quad LED projectors are pretty nifty too. Does anyone have light output numbers for factory LED headlights? I'm kinda curious what the new ones put out, haven't actually seen many driving around at night so I can't tell if its another huge jump in output like it was going from filament --> HID. Kinda miffed that they put in halogen projectors into the Veloster, I guess you are getting a lot for the little bit of extra over the base, but still going through the trouble of designing another projector based headlamp and not stuffing in a nice HID system... feels like they could have gone the extra little bit. Still plenty of light output for a halogen projector so I can't complain too much about that.

I wonder how different the mounting is on the FA motors compared to the EJ. And drat is that motor good looking from looking a quick image search. Someone is bound to do something dumb with their new WRX or Forester so cross your fingers and an FA swap might be in your future ;)



I can just imagine the spool, I've got to search around to see how it sounds, no iconic rumble I'm guessing but that short of exhaust piping and a quick spool more than make up for it :neckbeard:

jamal posted:

I want to do that too, but wanted to buy the glass jdm lights to put them in so it will be like a $600 project.

I still can't decide if I like the JDM lights for the Legacy B4, depending on which week you ask me I'll have a different opinion on them. Factory HID reflectors would be pretty nice, but apparently the hood is slightly different on the USDM Legacy and Baja so you either have to get a JDM hood too or live with a gap right by your lights.

I'm seriously astounded at how cheap the Depo lights are, price wise at least, quality wise they're much better than I'd expect for the price. OEM lights are always crazy expensive, and even used ones with scuffs and broken mounting tabs are going for more than I paid for a set of Depo lights. I think it's something stupid like $1400 for a new set from the local Subaru dealer. If I'm hacking up the lights then I don't think there's a point to getting OEM ones since the main advantage of having a proper reflector design is null since it's getting retrofitted.

jamal posted:

Just the bottom mount TS manifold on a ej25 makes a huge difference. The torque curve of a newer Legacy GT blows the standard UEL manifold out of the water. I'm shocked they're not using it on the 2015 sti.

My best guess is we have another 08 WRX situation on our hands. Lets see if next MY they'll fix the new STI. Even a detuned version of their new motor (to meet US emissions if that's their issue) would have been better than throwing the EJ in there for another year.

Bajaha fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Apr 8, 2014

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Do they have a bottom-mount twin scroll manifold? Does the Legacy GT one bolt onto J. Random EJ25?

I think the Full-Race one is twin scroll and underslung but it's more than most cars I've ever bought.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


It's a good news day today. The replacement tire arrived at dealer and we went in to get it replaced so now the Veloster is on 4 normal wheels again. Talked with the manager about our continued issues with it and they've agreed to giving us a $700 value service agreement for their service department, should cover quite a few oil changes, details of the arrangement will be emailed to me within 24 hours so I'll see exactly what it entails.

Now crossing my fingers I can get the little issues dealt with and finally get to enjoy the drat car.

Guy Random
Oct 22, 2010

Bajaha posted:


My best guess is we have another 08 WRX situation on our hands. Lets see if next MY they'll fix the new STI. Even a detuned version of their new motor (to meet US emissions if that's their issue) would have been better than throwing the EJ in there for another year.

Sorry to thread jack, but why the hate on the EJ25? As far as I know it has decent ports, decent rods and is generally a stout motor now that the head gasket issue has been addressed. The FA does seem to take to boost well in the 86/BRZ, but seems pretty untested. Some fun stuff can be done with DI but it doesn't seem like much of a help with big power. Just curious, this forum seems to have a lot of hate for the EJ's even from Subaru enthusiasts.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


Guy Random posted:

Sorry to thread jack, but why the hate on the EJ25?
No worries about thread jacking, I don't turn out content quickly and sometimes the thread feels a bit echo chamber-y

There's nothing wrong with the EJ, I love the variant I swapped into the Baja and it's a very solid motor. The main issues with then using the EJ in the new STI is that it's been around for quite a while now and although proven and respected, it's getting long in the tooth nowadays and there are variants of the new FA that put down respectable hp and tq numbers that would be suited to the STI.

The issue is less that people hate the EJ and just that's it's an old motor design that has a viable successor.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


Edit: Lets make this a full fledged update.

First up, end of April, and there's snow.


Second of all, I finally picked up that rear subframe. The best vehicle to pick it up would have been the Baja, but oh well, make due with what you have. Have to track down a leak in the altima now, looks like it developed a transmission oil leak (suspecting the axle seal) after the trip so I'll be lifting it up soon to figure out what went wrong.


Picked up a bunch of goodies in the US: Osram 35w 4300k SVS Nighbreaker bulbs, pretty much the same as the CBI while giving off a better colour in my opinion (The CBI looks cool, but these will make it easier to see at night especially for long trips) Morimoto 3Five ballasts, bunch of shrouds to play with, really hard to figure out what will look good inside the housing so I bought a bunch of the "B-stock" ones. New headlamps to do a final retrofit into.


CBI vs SVS shown here: (not my pic)


Side by side comparison of the retrofit vs OE style.



Did some cutting, sanding, and swearing trying to fit the nice projectors into the housings and played with the shrouds. I need to extend them on one side because the S2k projectors are monsters and I've got a surprisingly tiny amount of room to work with. Can't decide what colour I should paint them after a built an extension on the side, would have been nice to leave them as is, but that's not possible. Maybe a gunmetal-ish colour, black or white might look tacky in these headlights.



Bonus shot of the Altima, and my terribly messy storage shed garage.

And in other exciting news, I have a new(ish) 2013 STI transmission with almost no miles, and a bunch of associated parts sitting in Toronto that I need to pickup, so here I go with another roadtrip (Good deal, no shipping, gently caress it, road trip!)

Oh, and I picked up this bad boy:


Now I just have to figure out where to place the controls...

Bajaha fucked around with this message at 23:44 on May 1, 2014

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Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
I forgot how fantastically lovely your Altima is.

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