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Ramagamma posted:The game I almost bought a Vita for. Can't justify it though since I'm still sitting around July in the PS2 one. I had no idea they changed the voice actors for Golden though, that's kind a bummer. They only changed Teddie and Chie, I haven't heard them in Golden yet but it wasn't THAT bad in the fighting game. Also since I'm sure "I want this game but I don't want a Vita" is gonna pop up in this thread a lot here are some Vita Facts:
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I just noticed that in addition to getting -Dyne spells of every element, Naoto is the only party member with no weaknesses (Weaknesses stay when you rank up in Golden, even at the new ranks). Looks like they really want people to try out new parties, but on the other hand Chie and Yukiko get Hama and Mudo now too. I'm gonna do Teddie/Naoto/Kanji just because my team last time was the complete opposite.
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Nov 21, 2012 14:12
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Nate RFB posted:What? Really? Ugh, that really bothers me for some reason. Is there at least a way now to equip an item to negate a certain element like in P3? Well now what happens is at Rank 10 instead of the new Persona having no weakness they get Evade *Weakness* skills, but I'm assuming they take up one of the now very limited skill slots. Also Yukiko and Teddie both get the Evade skills when they never lost their weakness before so it's a bit of a buff to them.
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Nov 21, 2012 14:53
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Oh my god why did nobody mention this game has optional "TV channels" on the main menu that: Have a jukebox channel Have a channel explaining the jungian psychology between actual terms like "Persona" and "Shadow" Have live videos of a concert where they perform persona soundtracks hahahaha I guess it updates eventually with cutscenes you see and stuff
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Nov 21, 2012 18:41
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I like Chie's new voice  I never liked the old voice though.Volt Catfish posted:It's not GOTY unless they made Naoto viable. I haven't gotten that far yet but looking at the changes in the OP they did. Naoto has no weaknesses (everyone else keeps a weakness now), gets the skill that evades every element, can learn every -Dyne spell and Mind Charge, gets Heat Riser (raises every stat on a character), now gets the spells that can reflect a physical or magic attack, and since the spells are all mana heavy gets passive MP regen. Seems alright!
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Nov 22, 2012 07:03
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Schubalts posted:Finally get to sit down and play, and Yu Narukami fits the name spaces. Man, picking a name was so much easier this time Yeah I did the same thing, I want to get back to the P4 Arena story mode after this and it would be weird to see him changing names again
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Nov 22, 2012 13:52
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New stuff question: I got the fishing rod, but when can I catch my own bugs instead of stealing them from kids? Also the patch next to my house is obviously for gardening but I can't interact with it yet. I'm about to start dungeon 2. HiKaizer posted:It took me mucking around with the voice feature to realise you can go to Aiya at night. This is pretty awesome. Also I'm one of the Yuu people, it's pretty amusing when people go "Hey Yuu." In a weird twist Aiya is actually closed at night if it's raining. No double rainy day beef bowls  New players should know that Rainy Days change your schedule a lot. Lots of S.Links aren't available if it's raining, different rare enemies pop up in dungeons that can unlock totally optional equipment, the Aiya diner sells a Rainy Day bowl that boosts ALL of your stats.
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Nov 23, 2012 15:30
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:4/29 (morning)- Showa Day: Also I forgot how much of a bummer Nanako can be, it's comical. "Hey Nanako I bet your mom is..." "SHE DIED"
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Nov 23, 2012 16:48
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W.T. Fits posted:They show up both in battle and in the dungeon. Also your party members comment on them if you talk to them inside dungeons.
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Nov 23, 2012 18:03
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You can garden without taking up time, if you just never maintain it. You still get S Link bonuses for harvesting and replanting too. The plants do stuff like take you out of dungeons or give SP so it's definitely worth paying attention to. I'm assuming the ones you get later will do some good stuff. Maintaining your garden makes stuff ready for harvest faster and increases how much you get.
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Nov 24, 2012 16:25
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DrManiac posted:[e] This is the first vita game I played that didn't have the ugly rear end system default save screen. I think that was a Sony requirement for a while, off the top of my head Nier on the 360 had a cool looking journal to save your game and the PS3 version was the ugly system screen. This is relevant because one of the endings goes through your saves and deletes them and it's a lot cooler to see the journal entries fade away than seeing DELETING PLEASE WAIT. W.T. Fits posted:Then again, I may have been slightly overleveled since I went back and redid the castle to get Yukiko's special weapon before clearing the bathhouse in the same day. I just unlocked Kanji and he's level 25. My highest character was either 19 or 20. I could tell I was behind when all the fusion forecasts told me stuff like "Fuse *this guy you will not have for 4 levels*" but I didn't want to waste time leveling the characters I'm not gonna use. I forgot how long it takes to get your whole party too, I just got Kanji and swapped out Chie, and I'll swap out Yukiko for the next party member but if I remember correctly there's a couple more dungeons before you get the last member so I'm gonna have Yosuke sticking around for a while, so I might as well level him. The game just feels wrong when you ignore the Yosuke/Yukiko/Chie S.Links, I remember why I used them all first time through. You see them so much the S.Links feel like part of the actual story. Strange Quark posted:Physical skills tend to better in boss fights since bosses usually don't have any bosses to exploit and physical skills are on average stronger than magical ones. Yeah for such a mechanics-heavy game it's really weird that they don't break down the numbers for you. "Small amount of physical damage" can be anywhere from 120 > 200, and some that say "Small amount" are actually multi-hit so they can do more than the moderate damage skills. Also they all have different critical hit rates, something I didn't know until I looked up the numbers just now.
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Nov 25, 2012 06:33
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OmegaZultan posted:Holy poo poo they make you feel like the biggest fucker if you have multiple girlfriends on Valentine's day. How the hell did you get to Feb 14 already
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Nov 25, 2012 07:44
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VarrosAnon posted:Just started playing this, after getting my white AC Vita on Friday. I played like a week of FES, but I'm liking this a lot more. Feels more... thoughtful? The translators just did a better job on localizing this on a deeper level, I think. I do have a question though - should I be worried about using too many items? I used one when fighting Shadow Yosuke- not too much of a spoiler but I don't want to ruin it for anyone and had to use a medicine. I know it's a small deal, but I just want to make sure when it comes to items I won't screw myself over in the first dungeon or anything. Yeah this game has excellent localization, it manages to remind you you're in Japan without having all the awkwardness from a bad Japanese translation. Don't worry about using items, that's what they're there for. I've played P4 before and still had to use a lot of healing items in the first several dungeons. Anyway you want to use stuff like Medicine and Value Medicine early - they only heal 100 HP which is great early on but eventually not worth it. They also make the early game way more manageable, Value Medicine in particular is the only way to full heal your party early on. Even the stuff that stays useful all game like Revival Beads is still worth using because later on it's trivial to buy 30 of them if you need to.
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Nov 25, 2012 09:44
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OmegaZultan posted:Beat the game. I really loved all the new stuff tho I didn't get a chance to do the Adachi link. And Jesus man I was bedridden all weekend and I still "only" got 15 hours in
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Nov 25, 2012 10:40
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I can't believe I played this game when you lost all progress for dying. I just got a game over and only had to restart a floor but I lost 2 level up persona cards that have my rakshasa auto attack buff, a gold treasure box, and a rainy day monster I didn't have and I'm already annoye.
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Nov 25, 2012 19:28
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Len posted:I forgot how sad it was that Nanakos big dream is to just go to Junes with her dad Nanako continues to be the most depressing thing
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Nov 26, 2012 06:03
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Also, question. Adachi seems to stop actually letting you advance his S. Link at points, the game'll say stuff like "Let the investigation advance and try again then" and I'm assuming that basically means more of his S. Link is unlocked with story progression? I think that actually comes up if you haven't cleared the current dungeon yet. At least that's what it looks like to me, I was using the Voice feature to check what other players were doing and they were able to do S.Links with guys I couldn't, your party members will sometimes lose S. Link opportunities because they have the prompt that they want to go into the TV instead. If you beat the dungeon early those prompts won't come up and they'll be free. In Adachi's case I guess it's possible that I had just maxed it out at the current point and other players hadn't but I assumed it was a dungeon thing. The voice feature makes me second-guess myself  WHY CAN EVERYONE DO LINKS WITH AI MY COURAGE IS STILL TOO LOW AM I BEHIND
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Nov 26, 2012 07:52
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Cirosan posted:A question, if I may. I played through the original Persona 4 and my copy of Golden is due to arrive in the next day or two. I've skimmed over most of the new features, but I'm still kind of unclear on how exactly the SOS mechanic works in terms of finding people. It randomly sends it out to other players. I don't think they even have to be in the same dungeon, just in any dungeon at the time. You click SOS in between battles. Someone randomly gets a popup and can click "Assist". You get a boost in your next battle to HP and SP depending how many people assisted. It's only from when you click to your next battle, you have to SOS after every battle if you want constant help. It's a small boost but if you do it every single battle it adds up (I get annoyed so I don't) Laex posted:How do you trigger combo attacks? I keep getting the Yukiko and Chie one at random and I wonder if there's any way to control it. If you do an All Out Attack and there are still enemies left you can do a Combo Attack. It will only activate if you have the following in your party: Chie+Yukiko Kanji+Naoto Yosuke+Teddie So you can only have 1 potential combo attack at any one time and depending on your party there might not be any.
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Nov 26, 2012 12:56
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Laex posted:Regarding SOS, it can get hilariously overpowered, I don't know wether its just a random chance or it gets more powerful if you let it run without engaging combat for a while but I was getting something like 40-50 health and SP at Yukiko's castle It keeps requesting until you get into a battle or change floors I think, so yeah if you SOS and wait 10 minutes you could have enough people that said yes to give you lots of HP and SP. Also I noticed it's % based so if you're level 50 and go back to Yukiko's castle you get more than you used to while mashing Rush through enemies. You can game it if you're patient. THE AWESOME GHOST fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Nov 26, 2012 |
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Nov 26, 2012 13:08
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I told a friend to play through P3P, he thought it was alright but he's in love with P4. I think it's mainly the dialogue, it's a lot funnier, better written and acted than P3. Compared to the original P4 Golden feels easier in some ways and harder in others. A lot more of the random shadow battles were kicking my rear end on normal, I definitely don't remember the first dungeon already having guys that can hit your weaknesses but that don't have weaknesses themselves. Also I don't know how much extra time they added but there's so much additional poo poo to do (even at night) that it feels like it's gonna balance out. I don't have time for you Kanji I gotta ride scooters
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Nov 27, 2012 07:34
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Axle_Stukov posted:They actually just redid this fight from the ground up. Her HP is about double what it used to be now, and both her and the prince have some different moves. Overall it's more on par for being the boss of the first dungeon. Yeah it actually makes sense now, the difficulty curve in P4 on PS2 was basically a \ shape. You can always play on Hard
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Nov 27, 2012 07:55
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Gyre posted:I've really warmed up to Chie's new VA. She can be a little loud but for the end of her S. Link and any romantic stuff she's really good. There's just the right mix of hesitancy, hope, and dorkiness. I really wasn't planning on doing Chie for romance again since I did her in the original P4 but the VA nailed the "I want to protect you" line so hard I decided to roll with her again. I wrote the same thing as you and one of hers was something like I'm so happy I finally have a big bro which I guess could be seen as happy but I saw it more as she was living her life up to this point in crushing loneliness. Maybe I'm just assuming everything she says is sad so I read it that way. Hearing W...Welcome Back When her dad comes home drunk, going from her usual cheery tone to wariness was like watching someone's childhood end before your eyes
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Nov 27, 2012 12:45
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Is there any way to bring the +Exp weapons with you to NG+?
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Nov 28, 2012 05:28
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Dr. Ohnoman posted:Between him and Ose, the Void Quest dungeon was an absolute cakewalk. Black Frost's Mind Charge + Fire Amp + Agidyne just wrecks the boss, and when they eventually used Red Wall it was time for Power Charge + Atom Smasher. You can get Power Charge/Atom Smasher earlier than Ose if you get Oni (Strength) but Power Charge is his last skill. I accidentally fused one in Dungeon 2 and I'm at the boss of Dungeon 3 and still using him. No weaknesses, immune to fire, resists physical, a lot of strong physical attacks for how early you get him, Power Charge, and Endure. Weirdly enough I'm about to beat Dungeon 3 and I'm not a high enough level to fuse Black Frost, the first time I played P4 I had him at the beginning of that dungeon. OmegaZultan posted:Oh man, I just found out you can alter the variables of difficulty in NG+. You can pick between the standard diffs or create your own custom difficulty and control how much damage you do/recieve, how much money and exp you gain, and how retries are balanced. This is actually awesome. Basically set it to max Gold and EXP but make the enemies tougher so stuff just happens faster.
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Nov 28, 2012 09:16
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They took away save points because now if you get a game over you can always restart a floor and bosses have their own floors. I don't know if you can still do this on very hard. Also have they tweaked exp gain on normal or am I just getting through dungeons too quickly? I beat the third dungeon and still can't fuse Black Frost. I've been putting off the quests where you revisit and the optional bosses so that could be it too.
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Nov 28, 2012 12:09
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Hey did anyone mess around with getting Skill Cards from Chagall Cafe? 1)Is it random which Persona they choose for skill cards? Is it the main one you have equipped, or any currently in your deck? 2)It looks like each Persona always has a specific skill card they give up. Can it be given up even if it's their next skill to be learned? You can see the card symbol and name of the skill in that case so I thought it should work. I'm wondering how much easier I could make those Margeret requests basically. I never see people going to Chagall when I check what other people did that day so maybe a lot of people are just ignoring it.
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Nov 28, 2012 13:10
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Sex_Ferguson posted:(Late-Game Spoiler)If you maxed Marie's S. Link then there's more story content in the form of a new dungeon in February, otherwise you're basically just getting some extra days for S. Links. Oh what the hell I've been ignoring that, didn't realize it was that big of a deal. If you want to know which S.Link unlocks a new dungeon read that spoiler before you get to the end and realize you missed it.
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Nov 28, 2012 14:54
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commander nojj posted:Does anyone else find themselves humming/whistling that drat Junes jingle at random throughout their day?? No but I got my wife a gift today and the "cheerful" S. Link music kept playing in my head
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Nov 28, 2012 19:49
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Spoilers for Jester Max Rank.
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Nov 29, 2012 05:33
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Jester S. Link spoilers: DON'T CLICK THIS IF YOU DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME Oh I thought you need to get the new bad ending to max out Jester, didn't know there's more than one way to do it. Dr Pepper posted:Teddie wearing the agent set is amazing. When you're wearing costumes in a dungeon make sure to press square and talk to all your party members about it, they all have unique lines of dialogue for when you wear a costume and when they wear one. The lines seem to change too depending on your party compisition. There's so much crazy tiny stuff like that you could miss. I had an S.Link with Chie where the guy asks her about Yukiko, I saw them in the dungeon together and Chie brought it up and Yukiko brought up stuff from her own S. Link scenes too. It changes depending on how far in you are and I think if you're dating both of them they bring it up too? THE AWESOME GHOST fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Nov 29, 2012 |
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Nov 29, 2012 07:12
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I knew that the Ai and Naoto S. Links can be reversed so I looked up what I had to do to avoid it; I never knew Ai's could be broken completely so that you can't finish it for the rest of the game. Man why are Moon Arcana always the most annoying. Also I found out why people have been leveling Rise the soonest, she gets WAY more stuff in this than she did in the original (Her skill list in the OP is wrong). She’s been getting upgrades almost every S.Link level and some of it is new. HiveCommander posted:4th? you mean Shin Mitsuo Tensei right? I beat that dungeon at 37 on Normal It wasn't easy either, I lost 3 or 4 times and Black Frost really makes that battle easier but is level 38. On the other hand every time I unlock a new party member they're like 5 levels above me so that's cool. What level does the next one join? I'll see if I can continue the trend of having my main party be higher than the MC THE AWESOME GHOST fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Nov 29, 2012 |
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Nov 29, 2012 11:32
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jtm33 posted:I just beat Shadow Mitsuo. Quite comfortably too. I'm playing on hard, party members around level 45. He only managed to reform his shell once, and the damage he was doing was just not scary enough. I'm playing on Hard too. The most annoying thing he did was Dekaja, which meant another turn of Matarukaja. Agidyne + Fire amp was useful. Black Frost makes a huge, huge difference in that fight. Also I guess at too low of a level his double Gigadyne just wiped out my whole party before I could heal it, I didn't spend enough time keeping his attack down/my defense up.
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Nov 29, 2012 13:14
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Volt Catfish posted:I thought you could fix broken S Links? You can fix Reversed S.Links. Ai's actually BREAKS, not reverses. It's possible they changed that I dunno.
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Nov 29, 2012 13:29
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Schubalts posted:What causes her's to break? I've never had it happen. When you're getting to Rank 9 you can tell her "I think we need to take a break" and she'll never talk to you again Lord Ephraim posted:Level 55 I believe. Which by the time I get that character I will probably be level 60 or above. drat I wonder if I can beat this at like, 45. I want the last 3 characters you unlock for my party so there's no point leveling before they join really.
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I never knew those stacking rules, thanks. Explains why Oni with resist physical took like, no damage from attacks. I guess this also means you can overwrite elemental boosts on allies if you want to get them the elemental vows. Is Invigorate stacking worth it? Naoto learns all 3 ranks so maybe rank 2+3 and the MP cost reducing accessory would make Megido actually worth it.
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The Grimace posted:Seriously, after playing P4:Arena and this revamped version of P4, I cannot wait to see what Atlus has in store for Persona 5. Golden has seriously been the feel-good game of the decade. It's hard to shut the game off when I constantly think to myself, "just one more day..." This game is so good, makes me want to actually go finish the P4Arena story mode. I got annoyed that the whole thing was ultimately about a completely new side character related to a P3 character.
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Aphrodite posted:I really hope Persona 5 comes up with a battle system that's not awful. They made a game for this and it's called every other SMT series
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Endorph posted:To do a quick summary: Yosuke is a bit of a jack-of-all-trades early on, later on he becomes more of a buffer/nuker. They've changed Naoto significantly to get every single target Dyne spell if you go on Bike Dates. I have Kanji and Teddie, so I gave Naoto Fire and Wind and every element is covered. Also Invigorate 2+3 so SP isn't as big of a deal for Naoto as it used to be.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I always assumed Kanji was had better magic. He get's -dyne spells, while Chie doesn't go beyond Mabufu and Bufula. I think Chie can unlock further ice skills now so Kanji is definitely the worst at magic. Edit: Jesus this band scene is the most anime thing THE AWESOME GHOST fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Dec 1, 2012 |
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I did Yu Narukami because when I played P4Arena I kept thinking THAT ISN'T HIS NAME until I got used to it. Meiteron posted:Maxed my last social link (Temperance) on the first run of a fresh file with exactly one day of free time left before the dead run towards the endgame. I'm in end of October (haven't started Heaven event yet) and just realized my Understanding is at like, 3. There's no way I'm raising it fast enough to get the Tutor S.Link finished by the end, I was focusing too much on maxing Expression for Dojimas and Courage for Fortune (Knowledge seems like it gets to max early even if you're not trying). Tutor is a night link though and I've finished Dojimas and Hospital so you think it's possible to finish it even if I have to raise Understanding first? It's only 3 days a week so I don't know if that's even possible. I definitely messed up this time through, like I wasted days when an S.Link wouldn't level with someone because I didn't know there was a boosting event coming up. I also have a feeling I'm going to miss Adachi because I don't get the rules of his S.Link and there's a cutoff where if you aren't high enough it stops leveling. I haven't even started Hanged Man but he's available 5 times a week so that should be easy to finish up. I wasn't trying to max everything out but now that I'm realizing it might be possible I'm going to at least try.
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