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Jetfire
Apr 29, 2008


Cyra posted:

Holy poo poo, GG Mega Man was he first one I ever played, that was my childhood. I..I think I might have to get it.

Yeah, same here. I was so sad at times being a Sega guy and then holy poo poo, a Mega Man game!

I don't remember it being that bad a translation of the NES games, other than the mind-boggling terrible choice of Robot Masters.

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PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

The big problem with GG Mega Man is that the stages are 1:1 reproductions of the NES stages rather than being arrange versions like in the GB games, so you're often forced to make blind jumps across pits/spikes that you can't see due to the reduced viewing area of the GG screen.

Sarchasm
Apr 14, 2002

A Heartbreaking Post of Staggering Genius

Jetfire posted:

Yeah, same here. I was so sad at times being a Sega guy and then holy poo poo, a Mega Man game!

I don't remember it being that bad a translation of the NES games, other than the mind-boggling terrible choice of Robot Masters.

You got me curious, and like all lazy people who are curious, I went to Wikipedia.

Wikipedia posted:

The Robot Masters featured at the beginning are Bright Man, Napalm Man, Star Man, and Stone Man. Dr. Cossack's fortress contains Wave Man's and Toad Man's levels and respective bosses. Wily's fortress is actually Quick Man's stage, though the player is taken to a condensed Dr. Wily stage after going through the first boss door instead.

Five games of content, and this is what they cherry-pick. Worst mix-tape ever.

Box of Bunnies
Apr 3, 2012

One day, we'll know all the secrets of the skies, and we'll stop our wanderings.


PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

you can't see due to the reduced viewing area of the GG screen.

The Game Gear Difference™

RMZXAnarchy
Sep 9, 2011

*Insert Sailor Jupiter joke here*

Sarchasm posted:

Five games of content, and this is what they cherry-pick. Worst mix-tape ever.

Yep, they picked only 4 and 5 levels(And Quick Man's Stage from 2).

To be fair that's probably for the best graphically as the MM1 and 2 stages (Hell even some of the 3 stages) are very... empty looking compared to the detailed graphics in 4 and 5. So maybe that could be it, doesn't mean they picked a good lot of stages though, not at all.

irlZaphod
Mar 26, 2004

Kiss the Joycon to Kiss Zelda



greatn posted:

I really hope they at leas get Mega Man III, IV, and V on the 3DS eShop, because those three are among the best Mega Man games ever made.
Do you mean the GB ones? Because the NES ones are already on the eShop.

Katana Gomai
Jan 14, 2007

"Thus," concluded Miyamoto, "you must give up everything you have to be my disciple."


irlZaphod posted:

Do you mean the GB ones? Because the NES ones are already on the eShop.

Yes he does, that's why he used roman numerals. That's how they're distinguished from one another in the US/EU.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

Yet another 3D Sega game has been revealed, this time via PEGI - 3D Shinobi III! gently caress yes.

Sarchasm
Apr 14, 2002

A Heartbreaking Post of Staggering Genius

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Yet another 3D Sega game has been revealed, this time via PEGI - 3D Shinobi III! gently caress yes.

Am I alone in thinking that Shinobi III was the weakest of the Shinobi games to hit the Genesis? Shadow Dancer and Revenge of Shinobi are still great fun, but Shinobi III? Ugh. Stiff, cheap, ugly, and worst of all, no dog.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

You couldn't be wrongerer.

Sarchasm
Apr 14, 2002

A Heartbreaking Post of Staggering Genius

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

You couldn't be wrongerer.

Actually, you're right, I am totally off-base on this. I somehow confused Shinobi III with Revenge of Shinobi.

Shinobi III is awesome, you guys, please disregard my previous nay-saying.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

Revenge of Shinobi is still okay, dog button or no button. The Yuzo Koshiro OST makes up for a lot.

irlZaphod
Mar 26, 2004

Kiss the Joycon to Kiss Zelda



Any news on what's coming out in PAL-land this week?

Champeenship
Oct 9, 2012


PAL Update is here, http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=206108.

Another dud week for Wii U VC, unfortunately.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

irlZaphod posted:

Any news on what's coming out in PAL-land this week?

The press release just dropped a few minutes ago, dunno why it wasn't out yesterday. Gimme a sec...

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

PAL update (week of June 27):

quote:

WII U RETAIL DOWNLOADS
    Game & Wario - €39.99 / £34.99
    FI RACE STARS: POWERED UP EDITION - €49.99 / £39.99
WII U VIRTUAL CONSOLE
    Balloon Fight (NES) - €4.99 / £3.49
    Vegas Stakes (SNES) - €7.99 / £5.49
WII U SALES/PROMOTIONS
    Mario & Yoshi (NES VC Trial Campaign) - €0.30 / £0.30 until July 11
    Little Inferno (Wii U eShop) - 50% off until June 27
    Trine 2: Directors Cut (Wii U eShop) - 50% off until June 27

3DS RETAIL DOWNLOADS
    Mon Haras 3D – Au gallop vers l’aventure - €39.99
    Project X Zone ("Dark Hours" demo)
3DS eSHOP
    Dillon's Rolling Western: The Last Ranger - €9.99 / £8.99
    Mighty Switch Force! 2 - €5.00 / £5.00
    Aqua Moto Racing 3D - €9.99 / £8.99
    3D MahJonng - €9.99 / £9.79
    Urban Trial Freestyle - €6.99 / £6.29
3DS VIRTUAL CONSOLE
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Sega Game Gear) - €4.99 / £4.49
    Crystal Warriors (Sega Game Gear) - €3.99 / £3.59
3DS SALES/PROMOTIONS
    Dillon's Rolling Western: The Last Ranger (3DS eShop) - €6.99 / £6.29 until July 4
    Urban Trial Freestyle (3DS eShop) - €5.99 / £5.49 until July 4
    Super Little Acorns 3D Turbo (3DS eShop) - €2.49 / £2.49 until July 4

RE: Balloon Fight - "This is an updated European version of the game. It has now been optimised to run at a similar speed to the US version and with corrected aspect ratio." (Vegas Stakes is the US version, too.)

Crystal Warriors is a SRPG that plays very similarly to Shining Force. Sonic 2 GG is that one game that every kid with a Game Gear complained about.

Still Fluxing
Feb 14, 2013

A vision. A picture in my head. A picture of this.


I'm really tempted to download one of the Sonic games. I never played them as a child, so I don't really know which one I should start with. What do you guys recommend?

absolutely anything
Dec 28, 2006


The only decent Game Gear Sonic is Triple Trouble, get that.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

Still Fluxing posted:

I'm really tempted to download one of the Sonic games. I never played them as a child, so I don't really know which one I should start with. What do you guys recommend?

All the Sonic games currently available for the 3DS VC are Game Gear games, ie not "real" Sonic games and generally not fun in their own right, either. If you've never played a Sonic game before you definitely shouldn't start with any of those.

A stereoscopic 3D version of the original Mega Drive game should hit the eShop at some point this year, I suggest you wait for that one (or go buy Sonic 1/2/3/Knuckles from Wii VC or Steam or one of the other jillion rereleases).

Balcony
Sep 8, 2005
Dear Deidre...

Is Trine 2 worth the £6.99 download cost?

I'm looking forward to these 3D SEGA Megadrive ports. I hope they all have extras like the CRT effect we were promised for Sonic 1. If they do well, hopefully we will get some SNES 3D classics.

StevenM
Nov 6, 2011


PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

All the Sonic games currently available for the 3DS VC are Game Gear games, ie not "real" Sonic games and generally not fun in their own right, either. If you've never played a Sonic game before you definitely shouldn't start with any of those.

A stereoscopic 3D version of the original Mega Drive game should hit the eShop at some point this year, I suggest you wait for that one (or go buy Sonic 1/2/3/Knuckles from Wii VC or Steam or one of the other jillion rereleases).

For what it's worth I'd recommend giving the Game Gear games a go because they have lots of weird/neat experimental ideas that were never implemented in the Genesis games - but for that reason I recommend giving the games a try only in the context of having played the Genesis games first, as PaletteSwappedNinja suggested. And, ideally, playing the games under circumstances where you're not paying £/$5 for them each (e.g. Sonic Mega Collection + or Gems Collection).

Champeenship
Oct 9, 2012


Balcony posted:

I'm looking forward to these 3D SEGA Megadrive ports. I hope they all have extras like the CRT effect we were promised for Sonic 1. If they do well, hopefully we will get some SNES 3D classics.


Both Ecco and Altered Beast already the CRT mode, and I can only assume Shinobi III and any future Megadrive games will have them too.

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009



Weird, there's a notification on the UK eShop saying that the Fire Emblem: Awakening demo has been temporarily removed. Not sure if it's the same in the US though. Any idea why they'd take it down?

Still Fluxing
Feb 14, 2013

A vision. A picture in my head. A picture of this.


PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

All the Sonic games currently available for the 3DS VC are Game Gear games, ie not "real" Sonic games and generally not fun in their own right, either. If you've never played a Sonic game before you definitely shouldn't start with any of those.

A stereoscopic 3D version of the original Mega Drive game should hit the eShop at some point this year, I suggest you wait for that one (or go buy Sonic 1/2/3/Knuckles from Wii VC or Steam or one of the other jillion rereleases).

Thanks for the info. I'll wait then.

RMZXAnarchy
Sep 9, 2011

*Insert Sailor Jupiter joke here*

Balcony posted:

I'm looking forward to these 3D SEGA Megadrive ports. I hope they all have extras like the CRT effect we were promised for Sonic 1. If they do well, hopefully we will get some SNES 3D classics.

Apparently the S1 3D has some minor sound guffs among some other minor problems, but its really just Sonic 1 with a Spindash, and there are better versions out there.

If you desperately want a rerelease you should try the iOS/Android port as its actually got some new stuff.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

"I find my life is a lot easier the lower I keep my expectations."
-Bill Watterson


I really like the 3D remake of excite bike, its too bad all the rest of the 3d remakes so far are trash.

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Help Im Alive posted:

Weird, there's a notification on the UK eShop saying that the Fire Emblem: Awakening demo has been temporarily removed. Not sure if it's the same in the US though. Any idea why they'd take it down?
It was the same in the US as of a few days ago.
People think latest update broke the demo. It crashed and never loaded for me and I figured the download was messed up so I deleted it before discovering it had been pulled.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

bok bok bok




College Slice

Zaphod42 posted:

I really like the 3D remake of excite bike, its too bad all the rest of the 3d remakes so far are trash.

What's wrong with Kirby?

RMZXAnarchy
Sep 9, 2011

*Insert Sailor Jupiter joke here*

Dewgy posted:

What's wrong with Kirby?

Or Xevious? I mean its not the deepest game but the 3D is absolutely beautiful in that.

Obeast
Aug 26, 2006
Υ_~ ANIME BABE LOVER 2000 ~_Υ

RMZXAnarchy posted:

Or Xevious? I mean its not the deepest game but the 3D is absolutely beautiful in that.
3D Classics Xevious is great because it's a lot easier to tell the ground targets from the air targets... Too bad the game is hard as loving hell when you're doing well (loving variable difficulty ).

But, 3D Classics TwinBee is much much better IMO.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

JP VC update - they're getting Secret of Mana (SFC) and Final Fantasy 6 (SFC) on the Wii U this week.

Next week's update will include Ghosts'n Goblins (FC) and Shin Megami Tensei (SFC), plus Nazo no Murasamejou/Mystery of Murasame Castle (FDS) for 3DS.

Supercar Gautier
Jun 10, 2006



I've got my fingers crossed that that's the NA update too (since we already have this week's PAL release).

Rirse
May 6, 2006




PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

JP VC update - they're getting Secret of Mana (SFC) and Final Fantasy 6 (SFC) on the Wii U this week.

Next week's update will include Ghosts'n Goblins (FC) and Shin Megami Tensei (SFC), plus Nazo no Murasamejou/Mystery of Murasame Castle (FDS) for 3DS.

Oh man I would be happy about this, especially if the purchase promos returned.

Supercar Gautier
Jun 10, 2006



I checked Nintendo's site for new listings, and it looks like Pilotwings is scheduled for July 4th in NA, but nothing mentioned for this week.

(That doesn't mean there's nothing new this week; these listings don't consistently show up in advance)

This is the general link you can check to spot new VC titles. Listings also sometimes show up in advance in the eShop, or get trailers on Youtube. But none of these ways of checking are consistently reliable.

Supercar Gautier fucked around with this message at Jun 26, 2013 around 04:05

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

NOA has a habit of listing things with specific release dates that turn out to be wrong, which is why I rarely bring them up in this thread, but since you brought it up... games listed include Pilotwings and Vegas Stakes for Wii U VC, and Spelunker, Crystal Warriors and Sonic Labyrinth for the 3DS VC.

EDIT: oh, and you may or may not be getting Kokuga (the G.rev/Ikaruga guy overhead shooter) on the 3DS eShop in NA this week. (Tentative PAL date is July 11, off the top of my head.)

PaletteSwappedNinja fucked around with this message at Jun 26, 2013 around 05:15

RMZXAnarchy
Sep 9, 2011

*Insert Sailor Jupiter joke here*

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

NOA has a habit of listing things with specific release dates that turn out to be wrong, which is why I rarely bring them up in this thread, but since you brought it up... games listed include Pilotwings and Vegas Stakes for Wii U VC, and Spelunker, Crystal Warriors and Sonic Labyrinth for the 3DS VC.

EDIT: oh, and you may or may not be getting Kokuga (the G.rev/Ikaruga guy overhead shooter) on the 3DS eShop in NA this week. (Tentative PAL date is July 11, off the top of my head.)

What is this Vegas Stakes? Some lame-rear end gambling game or something different altogether?

Oh, and we're getting Labyrinth now? At least they didn't make it more than a year off-schedule.

Obeast
Aug 26, 2006
Υ_~ ANIME BABE LOVER 2000 ~_Υ

RMZXAnarchy posted:

What is this Vegas Stakes? Some lame-rear end gambling game or something different altogether?
It is a gambling sim, but you get to go to different themed casinos (some of which are modelled after IRL casinos in Vegas) in your quest to max out your money counter at $9,999,999. You can have random events happen to you that can either help or hinder you like someone asking you to invest money in something (which can either give you more money, or end up being a scam and costing you big time). I haven't played it in years, but I remember it being pretty fun and having a good amount of personality (at least more than most casino/gambling sims).

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

"I find my life is a lot easier the lower I keep my expectations."
-Bill Watterson


Dewgy posted:

What's wrong with Kirby?

Oh snap, I missed that they did Kirby 3D, gonna download that tonight!

All I saw was some crap NES games that I wouldn't play if you paid me.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

PAL update (week of June 27):

quote:

WII U RETAIL DOWNLOADS
    Game & Wario - €39.99 / £34.99
    FI RACE STARS: POWERED UP EDITION - €49.99 / £39.99
WII U VIRTUAL CONSOLE
    Balloon Fight (NES) - €4.99 / £3.49
    Vegas Stakes (SNES) - €7.99 / £5.49
WII U SALES/PROMOTIONS
    Mario & Yoshi (NES VC Trial Campaign) - €0.30 / £0.30 until July 11
    Little Inferno (Wii U eShop) - 50% off until June 27
    Trine 2: Directors Cut (Wii U eShop) - 50% off until June 27

3DS RETAIL DOWNLOADS
    Mon Haras 3D – Au gallop vers l’aventure (EU-only?) - €39.99
    Project X Zone ("Dark Hours" demo)
3DS eSHOP
    Dillon's Rolling Western: The Last Ranger - €9.99 / £8.99
    Mighty Switch Force! 2 - €5.00 / £5.00
    Aqua Moto Racing 3D - €9.99 / £8.99
    3D MahJonng - €9.99 / £9.79
    Urban Trial Freestyle - €6.99 / £6.29
3DS VIRTUAL CONSOLE
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Sega Game Gear) - €4.99 / £4.49
    Crystal Warriors (Sega Game Gear) - €3.99 / £3.59
3DS SALES/PROMOTIONS
    Dillon's Rolling Western: The Last Ranger (3DS eShop) - €6.99 / £6.29 until July 4
    Urban Trial Freestyle (3DS eShop) - €5.99 / £5.49 until July 4
    Super Little Acorns 3D Turbo (3DS eShop) - €2.49 / £2.49 until July 4


NA update (week of June 27):

quote:

WII U VIRTUAL CONSOLE
    Vegas Stakes (SNES) - $7.99
WII U SALES/PROMOTIONS
    Buy any Wii U VC game between June 28-30 for a bonus 20 Club Nintendo Coins!
    Mario & Yoshi (NES VC Trial Campaign) - $0.30 until July 11

3DS RETAIL DOWNLOADS
    Crash City Mayhem (July 2) - $19.99
    Project X Zone ("ghost" demo, out July 2)
3DS eSHOP
    Kokuga - $14.99
    Gabrielle's Ghostly Groove Mini - $3.99
    Urban Trial Freestyle 3D - %6.99
3DS VIRTUAL CONSOLE
    Spelunker (NES) - $4.99
    Crystal Warriors (Sega Game Gear) - $3.99
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Sega Game Gear) - $4.99
    Sonic Labyrinth (Sega Game Gear) - $4.99
3DS SALES/PROMOTIONS
    Urban Trial Freestyle (3DS eShop) - $5.59 until July 4
    Super Little Acorns 3D Turbo (3DS eShop) - $3.99 until July 8

NA dudes, note the Wii U/Club Nintendo promotion - it might help you hit gold/platinum, if that's something you care about.

Kokuga is an overhead tank shooter by Hiroshi Iuchi (Ikaruga, Radiant Silvergun, Gunstar Heroes, etc) and G.rev (Under Defeat, Border Down, Senko no Ronde) and includes local four-player co-op via Download Play.

PaletteSwappedNinja fucked around with this message at Jun 27, 2013 around 13:38

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Box of Bunnies
Apr 3, 2012

One day, we'll know all the secrets of the skies, and we'll stop our wanderings.


Anyone have any impressions on the second Dillon game? Is it just more in the same mold of the first? Never played the original but am tempted to grab the sequel while it's under ten Ausland Funbux.

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