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banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004






drat that's terrible. Wanted to see him in the ToC.

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BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011


I didn't want to see him again, but not like this

Island Nation
Jun 20, 2006
Trust No One

Condolences to his family but holy Jesus nobody should go out at 24.

Itís also none of our business what happened, only the family and coronerís office.

Island Nation fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Feb 12, 2021

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.


T.C. posted:

My problem with Ken Jennings so far is that he's clearly trying to do it in the same style as Trebek. He's got a personal connection and is going to have a hard time feeling okay to try something different, especially when this would be such a big deal for him.

It's a little weird watching someone hold to the exact Trebek style because the phrasing and delivery is very connected to him as a person. I would feel much better about it if they were a little looser with the way they were responding to things and picked their own phrasing that felt more like the host.

I think this is going to be a general issue though. People think jeopardy and want to do an Alex Trebek immitation.
It's also not his show just because he gets to host it for right now. The show's producers will want relative continuity until an actual permanent host is named - if that ends up being Ken, I'd expect more of his own personality to show through.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005



Also, I wanted to comment on this yesterday, but holy hell, Jeopardy.

"Let's do a category celebrating women in STEM and bringing awareness to the gender gap in that field!"

*Asks five questions, makes one of them about women, and two of them about men*

THIS poo poo IS NOT THAT DIFFICULT.

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

Grimey Drawer

*monkey paw curls*

"In today's Women In STEM category, the dollar values have been multiplied by 75%."

PSXer
Aug 2, 2006

The most exciting use of 1s and 0s next to internet porn

Breaking news: one of those women who read the women in stem clues becomes permanent host

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013

oh ar


Behild, an annoying champion!

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

This is gonna be fun!
Or else!


He's just happy to be there, I like when contestants are excited

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

HookShot posted:

Brayden Smith, the 25 year old who was a 5 day champ just before Alex passed, has died.

https://obits.reviewjournal.com/us/obituaries/lvrj/name/brayden-smith-obituary?pid=197750519

Welp, I guess this is what I miss when I step back from Facebook and the Jeopardy contestant group for a while, and Iím definitely saddened by the news. Such a shame, especially with him being so young, he was a really good champ and I looked forward to seeing him in the ToC...

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005



GhostStalker posted:

Welp, I guess this is what I miss when I step back from Facebook and the Jeopardy contestant group for a while, and Iím definitely saddened by the news. Such a shame, especially with him being so young, he was a really good champ and I looked forward to seeing him in the ToC...

Same, he was one of my favourites.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Apparently Karen from Mondayís episode is getting flack from her contestant interview about taking the subway and being scared about winding up in Jamaica, Queens (for those not in the know, Jamaica is the largest community of black people in the borough and lower income as a result, even though thereís a major transit hub and government stuff there), people think itís a racial thing because she was a teenager from Kentucky? This was likely a couple decades ago when the neighborhood was a bit more sketch, but not that much more. Since she was named Karen already, a moniker was easily coined.

I sideeyed her when she made that remark when I was watching, but I thought I mightíve misheard because I was coming back from the bathroom at the time, but my public radio station just mentioned it (alongside a segment on a special election to the city council in the area), and was wondering if anyone else was aware. The stuff I miss not being on Jeopardy social media circles and the like, though I guess it may be better for my mental health.

GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Feb 17, 2021

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




The fact people watch the interviews is wild.

BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011


I grew up on Long Island, so that story stood out to me. It didn't trigger my racism radar initially, though, because Jamaica station is just notoriously loving awful and confusing, and that's been a meme about the LIRR forever.

It was like they cured cancer when the option to change in Babylon to get to Penn Station became an option. I've never changed in Babylon and not just been able to walk across the platform straight onto my second train, compared to Jamaica where at least half the time it's either not there yet or I have 17 seconds to make the change but the train is 5 platforms over and you need to solve a Zelda dungeon puzzle to find the right staircase to get to it.

That's my probably-flawed memory of that station, anyway. I'm sure there's a fair amount of racism baked into that station's reputation, but that was going over my head as a kid, I just knew as a teenager finally heading into the city on my own I did not want to need someone to come fetch me stranded in Queens and lose that privilege.

How the gently caress you "accidentally' end up in Jamaica from Manhattan is a mystery, though. I haven't lived there in years and only go back really infrequently, but I don't think that's something you can do without failing at pretty simple navigation tasks at multiple steps.

PSXer
Aug 2, 2006

The most exciting use of 1s and 0s next to internet porn

Groovelord Neato posted:

The fact people watch the interviews is wild.

But you would miss important stories. One time a guy said he celebrated with millions of his friends. His sports team won the championship, and he considers everyone who is a fan of that team his friend. How can you possibly live without knowing that information?

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

BaronVonVaderham posted:

I grew up on Long Island, so that story stood out to me. It didn't trigger my racism radar initially, though, because Jamaica station is just notoriously loving awful and confusing, and that's been a meme about the LIRR forever.

It was like they cured cancer when the option to change in Babylon to get to Penn Station became an option. I've never changed in Babylon and not just been able to walk across the platform straight onto my second train, compared to Jamaica where at least half the time it's either not there yet or I have 17 seconds to make the change but the train is 5 platforms over and you need to solve a Zelda dungeon puzzle to find the right staircase to get to it.

That's my probably-flawed memory of that station, anyway. I'm sure there's a fair amount of racism baked into that station's reputation, but that was going over my head as a kid, I just knew as a teenager finally heading into the city on my own I did not want to need someone to come fetch me stranded in Queens and lose that privilege.

How the gently caress you "accidentally' end up in Jamaica from Manhattan is a mystery, though. I haven't lived there in years and only go back really infrequently, but I don't think that's something you can do without failing at pretty simple navigation tasks at multiple steps.

She was apparently taking the subway and not the LIRR, so she probably stayed on for a couple stops too long? Or took the train in the wrong direction, but I have no idea how you wouldnít notice that after a stop or two. Also, I have no idea why she couldnít apparently take the train back, even if it was a station with two side platforms and not a center one as all that entailed would be going up some stairs, crossing over, and then going back down.

Then again, I havenít been to many of the subway stations in Jamaica for a while now (and yeah, the Jamaica LIRR station is pretty confusing; I havenít really been there since I moved out of Queens a decade ago). Was she at Sutphin-Archer? Or Jamaica Center? No idea, apparently media has been reaching out for some clarification but I would probably disconnect from social media for a while until this blows over...

But yeah, the racism angle is that it was Jamaica the neighborhood that scared her but she felt safe enough riding the subway to other parts of the city alone, and as I mentioned before, even in the area near the LIRR station, itís a lower income neighborhood almost entirely populated by black people.

GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Feb 17, 2021

BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011


That's the confusing part....it's been years, but if I recall there was only one subway line that went to Jamaica and it was only connected there during rush hours. Maybe it's changed and my mental map is out of date, but it would be really difficult, if I'm correct, to end up there by just staying on a few stops too long. But it's the end of the line for sure, so yeah....the solution is you run up and down some stairs to go back the other way.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005



Is the NYC subway way easier to navigate than most? Because I've seen a shitload of lost tourists on the Paris RER even (which has literally five lines named A, B, C, D and E) and you just kind of wonder how the gently caress they managed to screw it up so badly, but people who don't live in cities with subways are apparently naturally very bad at it.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.

Grimey Drawer

HookShot posted:

Is the NYC subway way easier to navigate than most? Because I've seen a shitload of lost tourists on the Paris RER even (which has literally five lines named A, B, C, D and E) and you just kind of wonder how the gently caress they managed to screw it up so badly, but people who don't live in cities with subways are apparently naturally very bad at it.

NYC subway is pretty easy even as a tourist. Even If you literally do not prepare at all, it takes about an hour and you get the hang of it.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs of siren songs
To oohs to ahhs to big applause
With all of my anger I scream and shout
America, I love you but you're freaking me out


Biscuit Hider

Not from New York and I don't believe in bodegas but that story definitely got a raise eyebrow from me. Good to know I'm not alone in that

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

Grimey Drawer

Same. She tried to save it by saying it was back when we didn't all have maps on our phones, but...just get back on the train in the other direction?

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

BaronVonVaderham posted:

That's the confusing part....it's been years, but if I recall there was only one subway line that went to Jamaica and it was only connected there during rush hours. Maybe it's changed and my mental map is out of date, but it would be really difficult, if I'm correct, to end up there by just staying on a few stops too long. But it's the end of the line for sure, so yeah....the solution is you run up and down some stairs to go back the other way.

The E line and the J/Z lines run to Jamaica Center (and if she was here decades ago as a 15 year old, sheíd probably never take the latter, since they run through neighborhoods in northern Brooklyn that have only gentrified over the past decade or so) and the stops before it, as does the F, if youíre defining Jamaica the neighborhood and not just the LIRR station.

Both the E and the F run through stretches of central Queens that arenít bad tourist/eating/general walking locations like Woodside/the area around the Roosevelt Ave hub, Forest Hills and Kew Gardens and the like (also the Queens Center Mall on a transfer to local trains).

Duckman2008 posted:

NYC subway is pretty easy even as a tourist. Even If you literally do not prepare at all, it takes about an hour and you get the hang of it.

Iíd agree, but thatís due to me growing up here. I see tourists confused all the time, and thatís even with Google Maps or new electronic signage helping them out. Again, I have no idea when she was doing this summer program, but pre-smartphone era, I can imagine it being a lot easier to get lost, especially if this was during the period when the subways were more dangerous and nobody was there to help a tourist out with directions. But seeing as how she was a 15 year old riding the subways alone, I can only imagine that this wasnít the period when crime was apparently rampant on the trains like some commentators are trying to say have come back again...

BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011


HookShot posted:

Is the NYC subway way easier to navigate than most? Because I've seen a shitload of lost tourists on the Paris RER even (which has literally five lines named A, B, C, D and E) and you just kind of wonder how the gently caress they managed to screw it up so badly, but people who don't live in cities with subways are apparently naturally very bad at it.

It's not the easiest, there are A-F and maybe 1-5 or 6? But if you're a tourist, only like 3 lines matter to you. But even then, there are charts and maps EVERYWHERE, even inside the train so you can figure that out en route. It's really not hard to read them and figure out where you need to go.

It's like people who say they're bad at math and then don't put in any effort and inevitably fail. People go in thinking it's complicated and set up this self-fulfilling prophecy of getting lost. That said, I grew up outside the city and was going in on the weekends all the time, so I fully acknowledge I'm definitely biased in my assessment.

BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011


GhostStalker posted:

The E line and the J/Z lines run to Jamaica Center (and if she was here decades ago as a 15 year old, sheíd probably never take the latter, since they run through neighborhoods in northern Brooklyn that have only gentrified over the past decade or so) and the stops before it, as does the F, if youíre defining Jamaica the neighborhood and not just the LIRR station.

Both the E and the F run through stretches of central Queens that arenít bad tourist/eating/general walking locations like Woodside/the area around the Roosevelt Ave hub, Forest Hills and Kew Gardens and the like (also the Queens Center Mall on a transfer to local trains).

Ok I thought it was just the more obscure lines like the J that you have no business being on unless you WANT to go out there. The E is definitely one of the big ones I could see using and then ending up out on the island (I thought it only went to Brooklyn, but again my mental map is easily 15+ years out of date, we didn't use the subway last time we were in town exactly a year ago today actually).

More understandable now, but still really stupid.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

BaronVonVaderham posted:

It's not the easiest, there are A-F and maybe 1-5 or 6? But if you're a tourist, only like 3 lines matter to you. But even then, there are charts and maps EVERYWHERE, even inside the train so you can figure that out en route. It's really not hard to read them and figure out where you need to go.

There are currently 1-7 trains and there used to be a 9 before it was discontinued a little after 9/11, the letter lines go from A-G, then J, L, M-N, Q-R, a couple of S shuttle trains, then the W and the Z. There also used to be a V train but was also discontinued about a decade ago and itís route consolidated into a rerouted M. Again, depending on the era, there couldíve been even more. Most are grouped by route/local or express and have the same color scheme, which is why I grouped the J/Z together above (which also happens to be Jay-Zís namesake) like that. We sometimes refer to the lines by their specific colors, so the A/C/E are collectively the Blue lines because their logos are blue, where the A is Express, the C local, and the E local in Manhattan/Express in Queens when it runs to a different part than the rest of the line. Legacy of having multiple subway lines that used to be independently operated before they were consolidated.

But yeah, itís not that hard to learn (again, speaking as a New Yorker, tourists might have it harder). But again, even without Google Maps, there are maps posted everywhere in stations and in the subway cars themselves. The blue lines got electronic signage a couple years before the smartphone era too, with automated stop and direction announcements every station.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Groovelord Neato posted:

The fact people watch the interviews is wild.

How else will you know that someone had kids that were born on or close to nationally recognized holidays?

Albino Squirrel
Apr 25, 2003

Miosis more like meiosis


HookShot posted:

Is the NYC subway way easier to navigate than most? Because I've seen a shitload of lost tourists on the Paris RER even (which has literally five lines named A, B, C, D and E) and you just kind of wonder how the gently caress they managed to screw it up so badly, but people who don't live in cities with subways are apparently naturally very bad at it.
I have no idea how you'd get lost on that system as a tourist. The C goes to Versailles. The Metro goes everywhere else you'd want to go.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!



loving at Phil thinking that Milwaukee was somehow on the Mississippi. It flows from Minnesota, you dumbass.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012



The interviews are the most inane waste of time on the show. And I sit through that last geico ad to not miss the first few seconds before reading the final clue.

If anything good happens in them, I know itíll get posted somewhere.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005



I was honestly surprised when there was a poll done in one of the J! groups at the part people were most concerned about when going on the show and the overwhelming answer was the interview. I don't think I gave mine a shred of thought since I always fast forward through them and assume everyone else does, too.

And yeah that one with the guy wearing his horse hoof hands was funny, and it got posted on the Facebook page.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




Zesty posted:

The interviews are the most inane waste of time on the show. And I sit through that last geico ad to not miss the first few seconds before reading the final clue.

If anything good happens in them, I know itíll get posted somewhere.

Apart from the ones that go viral I haven't seen one since the invention of TiVo.

HookShot posted:

I was honestly surprised when there was a poll done in one of the J! groups at the part people were most concerned about when going on the show and the overwhelming answer was the interview. I don't think I gave mine a shred of thought since I always fast forward through them and assume everyone else does, too.

When I was younger and first got into taking the test I was also concerned about that bit. At the time I'd read they have you come up with five stories and the producers or Alex (can't remember which) chose which one he'd bring up during that portion but I don't have one interesting story about my life let alone five.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Feb 18, 2021

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Groovelord Neato posted:

When I was younger and first got into taking the test I was also concerned about that bit. At the time I'd read they have you come up with five stories and the producers or Alex (can't remember which) chose which one he'd bring up during that portion but I don't have one interesting story about my life let alone five.

For me, they had a choice of three from the 5 stories supplied (and other prompts from the questionnaire) on the contestant info card given to Alex, and they went over all three during the Green room paperwork and asked which was my preference, but stressed that it was Alexís choice which of the ones to ask about.

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013

oh ar


A naturopath.

zakharov
Nov 30, 2002

Tater Love


Loudly booed the following moments from tonight's episode:

-Not a single contestant knowing Sublime
-The contestant who thought Madonna sang The Boy Is Mine
-"Skeleton" in Final

Groundskeeper Silly
Sep 1, 2005

My philosophy...
The first rule is:
You look good.


zakharov posted:

-"Skeleton" in Final

Is "skeleton" not a skill you possess?

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005



It also wasn't an Olympic sport until 2002. Which I mean, I know the question didn't say Olympics, but presumably they're not going to include a sport that was for all intents and purposes not a real thing internationally in 1990.


And I say that as someone whose contestant interview was about how I do skeleton LOL

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011



Groovelord Neato posted:

When I was younger and first got into taking the test I was also concerned about that bit. At the time I'd read they have you come up with five stories and the producers or Alex (can't remember which) chose which one he'd bring up during that portion but I don't have one interesting story about my life let alone five.

When I did a Jeopardy tryout at a hotel banquet room ~15 years ago (pre-online testing), they had you write down your five interview tidbits.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012



packetmantis posted:

A naturopath.

Not a good sign when ďpseudoscienceĒ is in the first line on its Wikipedia page.

Old Kentucky Shark
May 25, 2012

If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.



That extra t was a kick in the teeth.

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KICK BAMA KICK
Mar 2, 2009



Real rough way to lose when you're the only one even close on a not super hard question.

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