Barkley 2 DEMO is OUT for backers: Maws Approach the Dark Drakers

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Rotten Red Rod: Mar 5, 2002

# ? May 30, 2019 19:00

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 09:56

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

Pomp posted:

Yeah restart steam

Oh poo poo thanks

47gigs
Must be a lotta gun's!

# ? May 30, 2019 19:21

Shinjobi: Jul 10, 2008; Gravy Boat 2k

I will most likely have a child before this game comes out

# ? May 30, 2019 21:43

Cuntellectual: Aug 6, 2010

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# ? May 30, 2019 22:03

Laslow: Jul 18, 2007

Cuntellectual posted:

.

# ? May 30, 2019 22:28

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Cuntellectual posted:

.

# ? May 30, 2019 22:33

Mr. Lobe: Feb 23, 2007; ... Dry bones...

Cuntellectual posted:

.

yeouch

# ? May 30, 2019 22:34

90s Cringe Rock: Nov 29, 2006

# ? May 31, 2019 05:09

Inexplicable Humblebrag: Sep 20, 2003

if this game ever comes out it will be like a bizarre archaeological trip into late 00's humour

# ? May 31, 2019 17:37

Wrex Ruckus: Aug 24, 2015

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

if this game ever comes out it will be like a bizarre archaeological trip into late 00's humour

that was essentially what happened with Duke Nukem Forever, but early 00's humour

# ? May 31, 2019 17:46

moron izzard: Nov 17, 2006; Grimey Drawer

The Big Word posted:

Platform Masters will come out before Barkley 2

He posted an update in the past week

# ? May 31, 2019 19:39

100 HOGS AGREE: Oct 13, 2007; Grimey Drawer

oh man post that update

# ? May 31, 2019 20:10

Rotten Red Rod: Mar 5, 2002

# ? May 31, 2019 20:20

100 HOGS AGREE: Oct 13, 2007; Grimey Drawer

godspeed, platform master :patriot:

# ? May 31, 2019 20:33

Hiratio: Sep 19, 2006; i will not allow

Chef vanished from the project 2 1/2 years ago. I've tried contacting him multiple times and haven't received a response. Bort left around the same time to be a family man.

The Kickstarter was not necessary, especially in hindsight. The majority of work on this game was unpaid. Myself, Bort, and Chef are the original Barkley 1 creators. I did not join the Kickstarter with them because I was aware of the many problems that could (and did) arise.

I was asked to join the project 3 years after the KS when the project had little money and was in shambles. I was committed to trying to finish the game but it was consistently set back by horrible management and I ended up quitting. The person who owns ToG and is running it now had nothing to do with Barkley 1 and has zero game dev experience. He is the ToG PR guy.

When I quit, Lazrool also quit. We were the only two remaining who understood the technical inner workings of this game. Laz worked on this project nearly from the start, pro bono, and was tired of the nonsense as well.

There is no incentive for "ToG" or anyone attached to the KS to talk about this debacle.

# ? Jun 2, 2019 09:22

EA Sports: Feb 10, 2007; by Azathoth

the promise has been made.

# ? Jun 2, 2019 09:29

super sweet best pal: Nov 18, 2009

Hiratio posted:

Chef vanished from the project 2 1/2 years ago. I've tried contacting him multiple times and haven't received a response. Bort left around the same time to be a family man.

The Kickstarter was not necessary, especially in hindsight. The majority of work on this game was unpaid. Myself, Bort, and Chef are the original Barkley 1 creators. I did not join the Kickstarter with them because I was aware of the many problems that could (and did) arise.

I was asked to join the project 3 years after the KS when the project had little money and was in shambles. I was committed to trying to finish the game but it was consistently set back by horrible management and I ended up quitting. The person who owns ToG and is running it now had nothing to do with Barkley 1 and has zero game dev experience. He is the ToG PR guy.

When I quit, Lazrool also quit. We were the only two remaining who understood the technical inner workings of this game. Laz worked on this project nearly from the start, pro bono, and was tired of the nonsense as well.

There is no incentive for "ToG" or anyone attached to the KS to talk about this debacle.

Amazing.

Kind of wish the Kickstarter never happened and they were all still hanging around on the internet. Their joke's were a big influence on my sense of humor a decade ago and I started to forget that kind of stuff as the years passed.

# ? Jun 2, 2019 09:36

Node: May 20, 2001; KICKED IN THE COOTER; Taco Defender

Hiratio posted:

Chef vanished from the project 2 1/2 years ago. I've tried contacting him multiple times and haven't received a response. Bort left around the same time to be a family man.

The Kickstarter was not necessary, especially in hindsight. The majority of work on this game was unpaid. Myself, Bort, and Chef are the original Barkley 1 creators. I did not join the Kickstarter with them because I was aware of the many problems that could (and did) arise.

I was asked to join the project 3 years after the KS when the project had little money and was in shambles. I was committed to trying to finish the game but it was consistently set back by horrible management and I ended up quitting. The person who owns ToG and is running it now had nothing to do with Barkley 1 and has zero game dev experience. He is the ToG PR guy.

When I quit, Lazrool also quit. We were the only two remaining who understood the technical inner workings of this game. Laz worked on this project nearly from the start, pro bono, and was tired of the nonsense as well.

There is no incentive for "ToG" or anyone attached to the KS to talk about this debacle.

This only strengthens my resolve.

# ? Jun 2, 2019 09:38

Uncle Wemus: Mar 4, 2004

Hiratio posted:

Chef vanished from the project 2 1/2 years ago. I've tried contacting him multiple times and haven't received a response. Bort left around the same time to be a family man.

The Kickstarter was not necessary, especially in hindsight. The majority of work on this game was unpaid. Myself, Bort, and Chef are the original Barkley 1 creators. I did not join the Kickstarter with them because I was aware of the many problems that could (and did) arise.

I was asked to join the project 3 years after the KS when the project had little money and was in shambles. I was committed to trying to finish the game but it was consistently set back by horrible management and I ended up quitting. The person who owns ToG and is running it now had nothing to do with Barkley 1 and has zero game dev experience. He is the ToG PR guy.

When I quit, Lazrool also quit. We were the only two remaining who understood the technical inner workings of this game. Laz worked on this project nearly from the start, pro bono, and was tired of the nonsense as well.

There is no incentive for "ToG" or anyone attached to the KS to talk about this debacle.

oh dear

# ? Jun 2, 2019 09:41

super sweet best pal: Nov 18, 2009

This really cheats the beef.

# ? Jun 2, 2019 09:48

Pretty good: Apr 16, 2007

Hiratio posted:

Chef vanished from the project 2 1/2 years ago. I've tried contacting him multiple times and haven't received a response. Bort left around the same time to be a family man.

The Kickstarter was not necessary, especially in hindsight. The majority of work on this game was unpaid. Myself, Bort, and Chef are the original Barkley 1 creators. I did not join the Kickstarter with them because I was aware of the many problems that could (and did) arise.

I was asked to join the project 3 years after the KS when the project had little money and was in shambles. I was committed to trying to finish the game but it was consistently set back by horrible management and I ended up quitting. The person who owns ToG and is running it now had nothing to do with Barkley 1 and has zero game dev experience. He is the ToG PR guy.

When I quit, Lazrool also quit. We were the only two remaining who understood the technical inner workings of this game. Laz worked on this project nearly from the start, pro bono, and was tired of the nonsense as well.

There is no incentive for "ToG" or anyone attached to the KS to talk about this debacle.

So what's the deal with frankie continuing to work on graphics for so long? Was he paid up front?

Also please leak a build.

# ? Jun 2, 2019 09:48

Yoya: Nov 6, 2009; I already bought the chicken

ok but BBall Tactics is coming out tho right????

# ? Jun 2, 2019 10:43

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

Welp. Change thread title to game dead.

That's very sad. Thanks for your work on the original game, I loved that poo poo, it helped get me through a pretty hard time in my life actually.

# ? Jun 2, 2019 11:06

Kia Soul Enthusias: May 9, 2004; zoom-zoom; Toilet Rascal

Hiratio posted:

Chef vanished from the project 2 1/2 years ago. I've tried contacting him multiple times and haven't received a response. Bort left around the same time to be a family man.

The Kickstarter was not necessary, especially in hindsight. The majority of work on this game was unpaid. Myself, Bort, and Chef are the original Barkley 1 creators. I did not join the Kickstarter with them because I was aware of the many problems that could (and did) arise.

I was asked to join the project 3 years after the KS when the project had little money and was in shambles. I was committed to trying to finish the game but it was consistently set back by horrible management and I ended up quitting. The person who owns ToG and is running it now had nothing to do with Barkley 1 and has zero game dev experience. He is the ToG PR guy.

When I quit, Lazrool also quit. We were the only two remaining who understood the technical inner workings of this game. Laz worked on this project nearly from the start, pro bono, and was tired of the nonsense as well.

There is no incentive for "ToG" or anyone attached to the KS to talk about this debacle.

Aww. What about Gotarius? He was posting in here for a while but stopped.

# ? Jun 2, 2019 11:08

Anne Frank Funk: Nov 4, 2008

*cries into cyberdwarf's bosom*

Th...the pro....ooomise has b-b-been made..?

# ? Jun 2, 2019 11:46

DrManiac: Feb 29, 2012

Hiratio posted:

Chef vanished from the project 2 1/2 years ago. I've tried contacting him multiple times and haven't received a response. Bort left around the same time to be a family man.

The Kickstarter was not necessary, especially in hindsight. The majority of work on this game was unpaid. Myself, Bort, and Chef are the original Barkley 1 creators. I did not join the Kickstarter with them because I was aware of the many problems that could (and did) arise.

I was asked to join the project 3 years after the KS when the project had little money and was in shambles. I was committed to trying to finish the game but it was consistently set back by horrible management and I ended up quitting. The person who owns ToG and is running it now had nothing to do with Barkley 1 and has zero game dev experience. He is the ToG PR guy.

When I quit, Lazrool also quit. We were the only two remaining who understood the technical inner workings of this game. Laz worked on this project nearly from the start, pro bono, and was tired of the nonsense as well.

There is no incentive for "ToG" or anyone attached to the KS to talk about this debacle.

This sucks. I talked poo poo but I didn�t think the game was actually dead.

# ? Jun 2, 2019 11:47

Inexplicable Humblebrag: Sep 20, 2003

Charles posted:

Aww. What about Gotarius? He was posting in here for a while but stopped.

he's the pr guy

# ? Jun 2, 2019 12:11

Rotten Red Rod: Mar 5, 2002

I'm assuming the person who is "running" ToG now has bailed too?

Sad to hear that's how it went, but not surprising. The worst thing to happen to many indie projects is Kickstarter success. You very quickly learn that some creators are not meant to be managers, and might also be giant piles of poo poo. And if you don't deliver, the best thing to do is dissappear and ever make anything creative again, ever.

Also gently caress making people work for free on a game.

# ? Jun 2, 2019 12:11

FabioClone: Oct 3, 2004; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

So slaves are good enough to make my shoes but not my video games?!

# ? Jun 2, 2019 12:18

Truecon420: Jul 11, 2013; I like to tweet and live my life. Thank you.

Very sad to hear this. What was Frankie doing them up until a few months ago? He must have just been helping out, what a great guy

I wonder how far done the game was?

Also I volunteer to help the game in any small way, if you�re reading this Goratus or whomever the hell has control of game files.

TOGether we can finish the game (with our unpaid labor)

# ? Jun 2, 2019 12:39

Inexplicable Humblebrag: Sep 20, 2003

where did the money go then, if everyone worked for free?

# ? Jun 2, 2019 12:55

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

I knew this was true in my heart. Oh well. Thanks for communicating though.

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

where did the money go then, if everyone worked for free?

This is the real question.

# ? Jun 2, 2019 12:57

Wrex Ruckus: Aug 24, 2015

Hiratio posted:

Thanks for your work on the Barkley's, and for bringing some much-needed closure.

The Something Awful Barkley 2 thread: The world's #1 source for Barkley 2 news

# ? Jun 2, 2019 13:03

Mr. Lobe: Feb 23, 2007; ... Dry bones...

Well it's sad news, but it is better than no news.

# ? Jun 2, 2019 13:05

oddium: Feb 21, 2006; end of the 4.5 tatami age

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

where did the money go then, if everyone worked for free?

pillowcases

# ? Jun 2, 2019 13:06

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

where did the money go then, if everyone worked for free?

The unpaid dudes joined 3 years after the KS which is easily enough time to burn through 100k with more than 2 devs

At least that's how I read it

# ? Jun 2, 2019 13:26

Anne Frank Funk: Nov 4, 2008

Hiratio posted:

[...] There is no incentive for "ToG" or anyone attached to the KS to talk about this debacle.

Ok guys' we're back in business. This is obviously the guy who paid for the Kickstarter tier where the ToGsters would let you pose as a dev and give fictional status updates on the game to the media.

# ? Jun 2, 2019 13:43

Hiratio: Sep 19, 2006; i will not allow

The development of Barkley 2 is extremely complicated and unnecessarily dramatic. So it's very difficult to explain things without walls of text. I'll do my best to keep things short and sweet.

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where did the money go then, if everyone worked for free?

People were paid, the point that I was trying to make in the original post is that the majority of work on this project was done for "percentage" / good faith. This could have been done without a KS. I didn't have direct access to financial info, but from what I gathered in my time on the project, about 2/3rds of the money went towards wages and the other 1/3rd went to other expenses (conventions, etc.)

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Aww. What about Gotarius? He was posting in here for a while but stopped.

Gortarius is Lazrool. He was too crestfallen / embarassed to post.

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So what's the deal with frankie continuing to work on graphics for so long? Was he paid up front?

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Very sad to hear this. What was Frankie doing them up until a few months ago? He must have just been helping out, what a great guy I wonder how far done the game was?

Frankie did get paid, of all people who worked on the game he contributed the most work and was also paid the most. However, as Hentai Jihadist mentions, the money eventually dries up when split between so many people and over many years.

I can't speak for Frankie, but when I quit is around the same time Frankie stopped his work. In my mind, Frankie did more than what was expected of him and he did not need to do as much as he did. However, it seems that Frankie was told otherwise by ToG management.

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I'm assuming the person who is "running" ToG now has bailed too?

Nope. Despite him admitting to me directly the game will die without me working on it, when I finally got tired and said I'll quit unless changes happen, he accepted my resignation and as far as I know is trying to keep the project alive by finding new "hires".

# ? Jun 2, 2019 14:09

oddium: Feb 21, 2006; end of the 4.5 tatami age

should have tried to pitch it to devolver or something

# ? Jun 2, 2019 14:25

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Super Rad: Feb 15, 2003; Sir Loin of Beef

Tales of... Lie's & Deceit??

# ? Jun 2, 2019 14:26

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