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Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -


Shame... we could have had a legit MudCat≠ô variant. Paint it all dark gray and/or tan.

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Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?


iyaayas01 posted:

The A-12 was developed solely for the CIA under Project Oxcart in the late '50s/early '60s. It flew operationally for the CIA from '63 to '68, flying several sorties over North Vietnam as well as a couple over North Korea during the Pueblo incident. The YF-12 was developed for the USAF as a next-gen interceptor in the early '60s; it had its first flight in '63. The three YF-12 airframes were actually produced as part of the A-12's production run because Lockheed convinced the USAF that the YF-12 would be a relatively cheap fill-in for that mission after the XF-108 got cancelled. The SR-71 was developed for the USAF as an expanded/improved A-12; it had its first flight at the end of '64. As you can see from the timeline the YF-12 and SR-71 were kind of developed in parallel from the A-12, in separate efforts. The SR-71 actually conducted a fly-off with the A-12 in '67 to determine which program to leave in service. The decision was made that the SR-71 was the superior choice, despite being slightly lower performing (extra crewman and equipment) and slightly worse cameras...the increased flexibility brought on by the increased payload capacity, extra crewman, and ability to simultaneously collect IMINT and ELINT was judged superior. LBJ publicly acknowledged the YF-12 in '64, followed shortly thereafter by acknowledging the SR-71. The motivation was twofold: first, Goldwater had leveled charges against LBJ during the '64 campaign that LBJ was weak on defense. This was intended to address that. Second, by publicly acknowledging the YF-12 and SR-71 they were providing cover for the A-12. The YF-12 and SR-71 were both acknowledged as being still in development, so they were providing cover for the already operational but still covert A-12.

Also whoever was talking about Cheney forcing Lockheed to destroy all the tooling is about 25 years too late, McNamara forced them to destroy all that poo poo in '68.

Only one full YF-12 survived the program. One was completely lost but the crew ejected safely. One's in a museum (Dayton?). The other was in a landing accident, but the rear half survived well enough to be mated to a static airframe's front half forming the only SR-71C, which is now parked about 3 miles from me.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers







to add to my next trip to the states where can i view a sr71?

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd


Godholio posted:

Only one full YF-12 survived the program. One was completely lost but the crew ejected safely. One's in a museum (Dayton?). The other was in a landing accident, but the rear half survived well enough to be mated to a static airframe's front half forming the only SR-71C, which is now parked about 3 miles from me.

Combined with the SR-71 that's also on display there I think that makes Dayton the only museum to have two Blackbirds on display.

fake edit: Forgot about Blackbird Airpark outside Plant 42 in Palmdale.

Real edit:

Two Finger posted:

to add to my next trip to the states where can i view a sr71?

There's a list on both of the wiki pages for the SR-71 and A-12...they're all over the country.

iyaayas01 fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Dec 31, 2014

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers







iyaayas01 posted:

Combined with the SR-71 that's also on display there I think that makes Dayton the only museum to have two Blackbirds on display.

fake edit: Forgot about Blackbird Airpark outside Plant 42 in Palmdale.

Real edit:


There's a list on both of the wiki pages for the SR-71 and A-12...they're all over the country.

so there is, awesome

i may die of hypoxia due to all the blood in my body rushing to my enormous erection when i finally see one

bloops
Dec 30, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!


Two Finger posted:

so there is, awesome

i may die of hypoxia due to all the blood in my body rushing to my enormous erection when i finally see one

That's not what hypoxia is! :spergin:

Edgar
Sep 9, 2005

Oh my heck!
Oh heavens!
Oh my lord!
OH Sweet meats!

Wedge Regret

Two Finger posted:

to add to my next trip to the states where can i view a sr71?

if you visit Utah, they have a neat sr-71C at Hill Aerospace Museum called 'The Bastard'.

TonySnow
Mar 24, 2008


The best one to go see is probably the one at the Air and Space Museum in DC, then you go take a look at the space shuttle Discovery as well.

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

~*Problematic Poster*~

Fun Shoe

The A-12 in San Diego is free to see (infront of the Air & Space Museum) and is dope as hell especially considering it first flew over 45 years ago.

Chinatown fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Dec 31, 2014

Shalhavet
Dec 9, 2010

This post is terrible


Doctor Rope

That museum by Eglin has the big tail SR-71 out front. Neat little place. If you visit that area of Florida you definitely need to visit the Naval Aviation Museum at Pensacola.

Sax Offender
Sep 9, 2007



College Slice

Shalhavet posted:

That museum by Eglin has the big tail SR-71 out front. Neat little place. If you visit that area of Florida you definitely need to visit the Naval Aviation Museum at Pensacola.

I think most people go to the Eglin site to see The Bench.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!




TonySnow posted:

The best one to go see is probably the one at the Air and Space Museum in DC, then you go take a look at the space shuttle Discovery as well.

As well as the Enola Gay.

They also added an F-14 a few years ago (it's next to the X-35B, making it look even more terrible in comparison).

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...

eglin is good too because its a short drive to the naval aviation museum in Pensacola which is loving awesome. Even more awesome because you can watch lots of planes (mostly trainers, sometimes some F-18s) land/take off there.

chitoryu12
Apr 23, 2014



For an A-12, the Intrepid in NYC has one. The Intrepid is already cool incarnate because it's an aircraft carrier converted to a museum, so you see the A-12 sitting on the deck before you even pay for a ticket.

MrYenko
Jun 17, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...



The National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola is one of the best aerospace museums in the United States, possibly the world, full stop. Equal to or better than the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum or any of the private collections.

Bonus hint: go in November for the better (read: cooler) weather, and the Blue Angels homecoming air show. (Free to the public.)

Burt
Sep 23, 2007

Poke.





If you are near the UK, go look at Imperial War Museum Duxford, which is good itself, but especially the American Air Museum. There's not many places that have a B52, an SR71 and a B17 withing spitting distance of each other under one roof. The B17 has a little cut out in the bomb bay where you can stand up inside and have a look round the interior. It's small.

There's an awesome walkway memorial outside with a silhouette of every plane lost during WWII, as in every plane. It's pretty amazing.

List of the planes in the static display

I really need to learn how to post images....

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...

MrYenko posted:

The National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola is one of the best aerospace museums in the United States, possibly the world, full stop. Equal to or better than the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum or any of the private collections.

Bonus hint: go in November for the better (read: cooler) weather, and the Blue Angels homecoming air show. (Free to the public.)

Also Tuesday and Thursday are blue angle practice days, open to the public.

terrez
Mar 20, 2012


classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZe5J8SVCYQ

airforcebriefings.mp3

e: reddit produces gold:

quote:

AWACS: "Welcome back to 'Real Missile Talk Live'!"
Fleet applauds and cheers. The recovery helicopter's whoop whoop their rotor blades in approval.
AWACS: "Today we have a real problem facing the current generation of guided missiles."
Sober, stoic silence.
AWACS: "Please welcome our guests for this evening: UGM-109B Tomahawk missile--!"
Mixed response from Naval section. Carriers look uncomfortable. GM destroyers cheer.
AWACS: "--and the USS Decoy!"
Somewhere, perhaps in the rafters, a cricket chirps its lonely song.
AWACS: "Now, Tomahawk, would you tell us about the difficulties you face in your relationship with the USS Decoy?"
Tomahawk: "Yes, you see...well, there are errors, and deviations. He moves sometimes, and I'm not sure where he is at any one time, but I'm pretty sure where he isn't, and I'm kind of sure where I'm not--"
USS Decoy: "Typical guided missile..."
Boos and whoops from the audience. Carriers unsure. Producer looks relieved all other guided missiles are in deployment at the time, else USS Decoy might need a destroyer escort to leave the theater.
AWACS: "Please let Tomahawk speak, Decoy, then you can have a turn."
Cheers, applause. Cricket feels inadequate; files complaint to IG.
Tomahawk: "What am I supposed to do? I know where I'm not going, and I know where I'm not supposed to be going, but I also have to factor in where I haven't been and where I'm not supposed to be, but he moves, and that causes error!"
USS Decoy: "You're trying to ram me with your warhead, you explosive bitch! What am I supposed to do? Stand still. Look at this!" Decoy pulls at a chain attached to its stern. "It's a literal anchor and chain!"
AWACS: "Now, don't get dramatic."
Tomahawk: "He does and doesn't do this all the time." Sniffles. "I don't know what to not expect, and yet I have to expect him not to be, you know?"
AWACS: "Not really, no."
Random carrier from the audience: "Guided missiles be crazy!"
Cricket's sense of inadequacy and lack of a consistent romantic partner in life leads cricket to commit suicide from the rafters. No one notices.

terrez fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Dec 31, 2014

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Just an FYI, this thread needs to be rebooted for 2015 I don't particularly care who makes the new one as long as it gets done by Saturday :)

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

don't do it because making monthly yearly threads is dumb as gently caress I am glad I am out of the military

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd


MrYenko posted:

The National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola is one of the best aerospace museums in the United States, possibly the world, full stop. Equal to or better than the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum or any of the private collections.

Bonus hint: go in November for the better (read: cooler) weather, and the Blue Angels homecoming air show. (Free to the public.)

This man speaks the truth.

I've been there like 3 or 4 times and every time my mind is still blown that I can physically touch an airframe that was on the ground at Pearl Harbor and that flew in combat at Midway.

Also

Derek Dominoe posted:

I think most people go to the Eglin site to see The Bench.

lol

Red Crown
Oct 20, 2008

Pretend my finger's a knife.


The Navy knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isnít. By subtracting where it is from where it isnít, or where it isnít from where it is (whichever is more expensive), it obtains an acquisition program. OPNAV uses acquisition to generate corrective commands to drive the Navy from a position where it is to a position where it isnít, and arriving at a position where it wasnít, and now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasnít, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isnít.

In the event that the position that the Navy is in is not the position that it wasnít, the service has acquired a budget shortfall, the shortfall being the difference between where the Navy is, and where it wasnít. If budgetary shortfall is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the OSD. However, the Navy must also know where it was.

The Navy planning process works as follows. Because a budget shortfall has modified some of the information the Navy has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isnít, within reason, and knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasnít, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldnít be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the acquisition program despite the budget shortfall. This is called ďstrategy.Ē

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.




Sugartime Jones

iyaayas01 posted:

Don't forget about the bomber design study Lockheed did.

:stare:

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es_KyFbL5BA

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!



:airquote: warning shots :airquote:

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.



From the gbs India thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ0ue-XGl9c

It's a march off (pro click btw)

Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jan 1, 2015

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT



Christoff posted:

From the gbs India thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ0ue-XGl9c

It's a march off (pro click btw)

jfc

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

~*Problematic Poster*~

Fun Shoe

marching game strong

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012


The militaries that look the best fight the worst.

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

uhh russia or any eastern euro army then?

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.






Rocking that side-pipe

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.


that's a sweet rifle

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Christoff posted:




Rocking that side-pipe

Would

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009


bloops
Dec 30, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!


N4i gonna hold a very extensive uniform inspection.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

What, Me Worry?



you couldn't afford it honey

Dilettante.
Feb 18, 2011


EBB
Feb 15, 2005

What, Me Worry?


Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

~*Problematic Poster*~

Fun Shoe


a good post

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Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?


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