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Shame... we could have had a legit MudCat™ variant. Paint it all dark gray and/or tan.
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iyaayas01 posted:The A-12 was developed solely for the CIA under Project Oxcart in the late '50s/early '60s. It flew operationally for the CIA from '63 to '68, flying several sorties over North Vietnam as well as a couple over North Korea during the Pueblo incident. The YF-12 was developed for the USAF as a next-gen interceptor in the early '60s; it had its first flight in '63. The three YF-12 airframes were actually produced as part of the A-12's production run because Lockheed convinced the USAF that the YF-12 would be a relatively cheap fill-in for that mission after the XF-108 got cancelled. The SR-71 was developed for the USAF as an expanded/improved A-12; it had its first flight at the end of '64. As you can see from the timeline the YF-12 and SR-71 were kind of developed in parallel from the A-12, in separate efforts. The SR-71 actually conducted a fly-off with the A-12 in '67 to determine which program to leave in service. The decision was made that the SR-71 was the superior choice, despite being slightly lower performing (extra crewman and equipment) and slightly worse cameras...the increased flexibility brought on by the increased payload capacity, extra crewman, and ability to simultaneously collect IMINT and ELINT was judged superior. LBJ publicly acknowledged the YF-12 in '64, followed shortly thereafter by acknowledging the SR-71. The motivation was twofold: first, Goldwater had leveled charges against LBJ during the '64 campaign that LBJ was weak on defense. This was intended to address that. Second, by publicly acknowledging the YF-12 and SR-71 they were providing cover for the A-12. The YF-12 and SR-71 were both acknowledged as being still in development, so they were providing cover for the already operational but still covert A-12. Only one full YF-12 survived the program. One was completely lost but the crew ejected safely. One's in a museum (Dayton?). The other was in a landing accident, but the rear half survived well enough to be mated to a static airframe's front half forming the only SR-71C, which is now parked about 3 miles from me.
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to add to my next trip to the states where can i view a sr71?
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Godholio posted:Only one full YF-12 survived the program. One was completely lost but the crew ejected safely. One's in a museum (Dayton?). The other was in a landing accident, but the rear half survived well enough to be mated to a static airframe's front half forming the only SR-71C, which is now parked about 3 miles from me. Combined with the SR-71 that's also on display there I think that makes Dayton the only museum to have two Blackbirds on display. fake edit: Forgot about Blackbird Airpark outside Plant 42 in Palmdale. Real edit: Two Finger posted:to add to my next trip to the states where can i view a sr71? There's a list on both of the wiki pages for the SR-71 and A-12...they're all over the country. iyaayas01 fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Dec 31, 2014 |
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iyaayas01 posted:Combined with the SR-71 that's also on display there I think that makes Dayton the only museum to have two Blackbirds on display. so there is, awesome i may die of hypoxia due to all the blood in my body rushing to my enormous erection when i finally see one
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Two Finger posted:so there is, awesome That's not what hypoxia is! ![]()
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Two Finger posted:to add to my next trip to the states where can i view a sr71? if you visit Utah, they have a neat sr-71C at Hill Aerospace Museum called 'The Bastard'.
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The best one to go see is probably the one at the Air and Space Museum in DC, then you go take a look at the space shuttle Discovery as well.
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The A-12 in San Diego is free to see (infront of the Air & Space Museum) and is dope as hell especially considering it first flew over 45 years ago.
Chinatown fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Dec 31, 2014 |
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That museum by Eglin has the big tail SR-71 out front. Neat little place. If you visit that area of Florida you definitely need to visit the Naval Aviation Museum at Pensacola.
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Shalhavet posted:That museum by Eglin has the big tail SR-71 out front. Neat little place. If you visit that area of Florida you definitely need to visit the Naval Aviation Museum at Pensacola. I think most people go to the Eglin site to see The Bench.
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TonySnow posted:The best one to go see is probably the one at the Air and Space Museum in DC, then you go take a look at the space shuttle Discovery as well. As well as the Enola Gay. They also added an F-14 a few years ago (it's next to the X-35B, making it look even more terrible in comparison).
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eglin is good too because its a short drive to the naval aviation museum in Pensacola which is loving awesome. Even more awesome because you can watch lots of planes (mostly trainers, sometimes some F-18s) land/take off there.
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For an A-12, the Intrepid in NYC has one. The Intrepid is already cool incarnate because it's an aircraft carrier converted to a museum, so you see the A-12 sitting on the deck before you even pay for a ticket.
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The National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola is one of the best aerospace museums in the United States, possibly the world, full stop. Equal to or better than the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum or any of the private collections. Bonus hint: go in November for the better (read: cooler) weather, and the Blue Angels homecoming air show. (Free to the public.)
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If you are near the UK, go look at Imperial War Museum Duxford, which is good itself, but especially the American Air Museum. There's not many places that have a B52, an SR71 and a B17 withing spitting distance of each other under one roof. The B17 has a little cut out in the bomb bay where you can stand up inside and have a look round the interior. It's small. There's an awesome walkway memorial outside with a silhouette of every plane lost during WWII, as in every plane. It's pretty amazing. List of the planes in the static display I really need to learn how to post images....
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MrYenko posted:The National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola is one of the best aerospace museums in the United States, possibly the world, full stop. Equal to or better than the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum or any of the private collections. Also Tuesday and Thursday are blue angle practice days, open to the public.
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classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZe5J8SVCYQ airforcebriefings.mp3 e: reddit produces gold: quote:AWACS: "Welcome back to 'Real Missile Talk Live'!" terrez fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Dec 31, 2014 |
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Just an FYI, this thread needs to be rebooted for 2015 I don't particularly care who makes the new one as long as it gets done by Saturday ![]()
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don't do it because making monthly yearly threads is dumb as gently caress I am glad I am out of the military
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MrYenko posted:The National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola is one of the best aerospace museums in the United States, possibly the world, full stop. Equal to or better than the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum or any of the private collections. This man speaks the truth. I've been there like 3 or 4 times and every time my mind is still blown that I can physically touch an airframe that was on the ground at Pearl Harbor and that flew in combat at Midway. Also Derek Dominoe posted:I think most people go to the Eglin site to see The Bench. lol
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The Navy knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn’t. By subtracting where it is from where it isn’t, or where it isn’t from where it is (whichever is more expensive), it obtains an acquisition program. OPNAV uses acquisition to generate corrective commands to drive the Navy from a position where it is to a position where it isn’t, and arriving at a position where it wasn’t, and now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn’t, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn’t. In the event that the position that the Navy is in is not the position that it wasn’t, the service has acquired a budget shortfall, the shortfall being the difference between where the Navy is, and where it wasn’t. If budgetary shortfall is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the OSD. However, the Navy must also know where it was. The Navy planning process works as follows. Because a budget shortfall has modified some of the information the Navy has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn’t, within reason, and knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn’t, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn’t be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the acquisition program despite the budget shortfall. This is called “strategy.” ![]()
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iyaayas01 posted:Don't forget about the bomber design study Lockheed did. ![]() ![]()
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es_KyFbL5BA
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From the gbs India thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ0ue-XGl9c It's a march off (pro click btw) Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jan 1, 2015 |
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Christoff posted:From the gbs India thread jfc
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marching game strong
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The militaries that look the best fight the worst.
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uhh russia or any eastern euro army then?
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![]() Rocking that side-pipe
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that's a sweet rifle
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Christoff posted:
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N4i gonna hold a very extensive uniform inspection.
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you couldn't afford it honey
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a good post
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