New around here? Register your SA Forums Account here!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

In a different world, one of these would have replaced the C-130 in the Seventies:

C-14: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-tyjLQ4xM0

C-15: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciC9Ij8ILM8

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

HMS Glamorgan, Computer Ship of THE FUTURE! (1967)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2a3_1301768675

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

It's easy to forget that when it first appeared, the F-4 was a half-generation more advanced than anything else in the air--and unfortunately more advanced than the missiles it kind of depended on to do its job.

1964 McDonnell-Douglas promotional film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHcLb_dmLW0

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Phanatic posted:

There's a bigger, marginally better system called Goalkeeper, it's based off the GAU-8 30mm cannon from the A-10. Downside there is that it's not a self-contained unit that can be bolted to the deck like Phalanx is, it requires cutting a big hole and mounting a lot of the system belowdecks so it's not exactly flexible. And really it doesn't range a whole lot furhter.

The Royal Navy is now pulling Goalkeeper off their ships and replacing it with: Phalanx. Apparently, newer iterations have improved the software that it actually has a higher Pk than the bigger gun.

Other more-is-better options that have been tried inlcude the Spanish Meroka, an 8-barrelled 20mm calliope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW8ilPgWc7s

Myriad, an Italian proposal that had two 25mm rotaries on one mount.

Kashtan, the Russian one with two 30mm rotaries and eight short-range SAMs for good measure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7ssNPxyHp8

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

The various Blackbirds get a lot of pic thread time, for extremely understandable reasons, but I came across one not usually seen:



The YF-12 interceptor prototype in mostly bare titanium instead of the black "iron balls" paint. Probably, if the plane had gone into squadron service, it would have looked more like this, in the heat-dissipating silver paint planned for the B-70 Valkyrie.

Here's the cockpit:




And the back seat:

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012



Rade Koncar, formerly a Yugoslav missile boat. German engines, Russian missiles, Swedish guns.

"They're for sale, if you want them." [/obiwan]

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Navy galleys: ever the bastions of cultural sensitivity.



SOUL FOOD MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Brown Moses posted:

Speaking of Syria,and Syria being blown to poo poo, a new bomb has been sighted in the Homs region, and I'm buggered if I can figure out what it is, hoping some of you might have a clue. Here's one of the clearer examples of it being used

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HItSz8JhpU

It's the Russian equivalent of Snakeeye--retarded bombs designed for low-level delivery. Don't recall the designation off the top of my head.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:



The Douglas AIR-2 Genie. An unguided nuclear-warhead-tipped rocket, designed to be fired at an incoming bomber formation.

Someone thought this was a good idea.



You say that like it wasn't. :colbert:

BOMARC remains one of my favorites: a ramjet-powered, nuclear-tipped surface-to-air cruise missile. There was even a non-nuclear version, though the HE warhead was in the vicinity of a thousand pounds. You know, to make sure. When introduced, it had a number in the fighter designator series, since clearly this is what fighters were going to be like in THE FUTURE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvEnFyQCuz8

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Phanatic posted:

That had more to do with the USAF trying to sleeze its way into the Army's SAM turf by claiming they were pilotless aircraft instead of, you know, SAMs.

The Falcon air-to-air missile also had a fighter number, so that might not be as purely political as all that. BOMARC had a better claim, what with the 400-mile range, and all.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

DrCuntmuffins posted:

Sir, if you could please stop making poo poo up.

Thanks

:colbert:

It's quite hard to get into the military, retard.

That's odd, I remember there used to waivers for anything, up to and including felony convictions.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Godholio posted:

They also used to need enough new high school kids to supply two wars.

Fair enough. And on that note, Cold War awesomeness from Yakovlev!

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Frosted Flake posted:

Pretty sweet Coast Guard combination gun from Vietnam. I wish they would bring this back.



and some info:

http://pcf45.com/misfire/mortar.html

It would double the firepower of the LCS!

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

DoktorLoken posted:

Replace all Army headgear with spiked pith helmets.

The Army (and Marines) used to wear the pickelhaub back in the 1890s, so the precedent is there. HERITAGE!

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Veins McGee posted:

They do. For the main weapon system/coax, their sights have the same limitations that the gunner's sights do. Abrams TCs can control their 50 from inside the turret, as far as I know. However, the primary limitation remains: Their situational awareness(i.e., what they can see around them) is degraded because they're either looking out a pinhole(telescopic sights) or they're looking out the periscopes.

Case in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd3H05HgXLg

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Vindolanda posted:

Yeah, I've certainly heard about some kind of manually fired thing mounted to protect the sides and back of the tank, but this was from a Challenger 2 commander boasting about some vision upgrade kit that would make it easier to see AT squads sneaking up, so usual "heard from the military" standards of believableness apply.

You're thinking of Arena, which is sort of a Claymore-like antimissile system.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Indian navy MiG-29, with off-the-shelf Garmin GPS installed.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

brakeless posted:

Is there a reason why the US army seems hellbent on these stupid "universal" camos? With the funding they get you'd think that they could issue separate camos for every single loving environment on the planet. Then you get poo poo like 50 shades of gray: the uniform.
Is this a question where the answer will inevitably be "because everything is retarded?"

Probably because VII Corps fought all of Desert Storm in woodland camo and somebody got a burr up his rear end to make sure NEVAR AGIN!

So, yes, you were right.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

First arrested landing by a UAV:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z2vpnbEbXc

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Loving Africa Chaps posted:


Anniversary of the battle of jutland is coming up at the end of this month


And yet Ben Kingsley's Jutland movie is still nowhere to be seen.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

More X-47 hijinks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S22QXubgH84

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

iyaayas01 posted:


edit - Good point, here's a picture of the last time the navy thought building a bunch of really fast small unarmored ships was a good idea (click for huge):



Point of order: the navy has no armored ships of any speed.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Lily Pond was a concept for a modular floating airfield; little hexagonal sections bolted together and covered with a heavy mat. I think we can all agree it's for the best it didn't see much service, but the footage of a Fairey Swordfish taking off using JATO bottles is pretty cool.



http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675053379_Floating-Air-Strips_emergency-landing-field_Lily-Pond_hexagonal-segments

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

kemikalkadet posted:

I thought that was a pretty neat idea until I saw this:

:stare:

If you had to choose between landing on that and ditching in the North Sea...

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

grover posted:

Yes. F-35 with a laser would be a pretty fantastic asat weapon.

Literally fantastic.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

ded posted:

How bad does it gently caress up the vehicles when they get air dropped like that?

In 1989, two out of the ten Sheridans airdropped were total losses. I assume the ratio is better for lighter loads.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Mortabis posted:

Can Hornets even hold enough gas to tank more than, say, one other plane?

A Super with an all-fuel load has about the same load as the last dedicated tanker the navy fielded, the KA-6D.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Godholio posted:

Didn't the Osprey have fewer crashes in development than existing helicopters? I remember hearing that the problem was the Osprey's tendency to be full of people for some reason.

It was the same problem the C-2 had.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

MRC48B posted:

That thing is the machine of nightmares. A nuclear powered, nuclear bomb dropping cruise missile. You think ICBM/ABM political balance are bad, think how hosed stability would get if someone deployed something like that.

It would have been the first combat drone. Only it carried the (at the time) equivalent of an entire SSBN in nuclear warheads. Burning nuclear-powered laps in the sky until someone gave it the go order.

Well, until someone shot it down. It would have been flying during a time when nuclear-tipped SAMs were still a thing.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012


The Hornet gives me some very grown-up feelings in my pants.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

The Polish have riced up a CV-90 with some not-terribly-practical-looking "stealth," but also a 120mm gun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4U3MwV9jeA

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Godholio posted:

I'd expect mud to be pretty radar-transparent. If that's the most radar reflective surface on the tank, it's going to blend into the ground pretty effectively.

I'm not sure what sensors they're trying to defeat. Millimetric-wave seekers in a presumed future generation of guided weapons? JSTARS or equivalent? Those little ground radar sets nobody's used since the Seventies?

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Risket posted:

I know I shouldn't ask, but why is the gear down? Is he landing during this bombing run?

I was more wondering which model of MiG-23 had an internal bomb bay, and how buff those Syrian rebels must be to shoulder-launch a Guideline.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Slo-Tek posted:

Ran across this, related to that. Here is an early F-4 mockup, before they decided they had to fold the wings and tail all origami-style to get decent lateral stability.



The cockpit was also quite a bit lower, and there was still provision for four 20mm guns around the engine intakes.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Oxford Comma posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMs4IJQVRYM

Ammunition ship John Burke exploding after a kamikaze attack.

This is pretty much what was going through my mind while escorting Kiluea during Desert Storm.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

Plus camera calibration(?) targets.



The A-5 Vigilante. Because the navy wanted a thermonuclear dick to wave at the Soviets too.



Designed and built entirely at North American's Columbus, OH Plant, where there is not a single thing memorializing that fact, nor the many, many other aircraft produced there. A Three-engined variant was also proposed for the USAF to use as a Phoenix-armed interceptor, but they passed, I'm guessing at least in part because of Navy Cooties.

The Vigilante is 100% pure ridiculous awesomeness. Referred to as "flying emergencies," especially when on short final. Designed around a tubular bomb ejector between the engines so it would poop out a bomb while in a vertical climb over the target, which did not work at all and was quickly forgotten.

Additional fun fact: bears suspicious planform similarities to the MiG-25.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Attn: Grover



http://www.army.mil/article/116793/Army_tests_vehicle_mounted_laser_against_multiple_targets/

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

bennyfactor posted:

This is from a few pages back, but what is that ROC plane in the middle? It almost looks like an F-4 but there's just enough things different about it that makes it seem unlikely to just be a variant.

RF-101C, the dedicated photorecon version of the Voodoo.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Booblord Zagats posted:

Because Down Periscope was a good movie

Down Periscope was filmed aboard USS Pampanito, which is still pierside in San Francisco.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Snowdens Secret posted:

I think the consensus is they never really did. Sea trials were done on the Coral Sea IIRC and it was pretty squirrelly



As was the F-14, by accounts. Unsurprising, given it's the same weight and powerplant.

  • Locked thread