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Giacchino's music sounds like the kind of thing you get for a Star Wars fanfilm. Little of its own identity but distinct enough to avoid a lawsuit. So I actually find much of his rogue one soundtrack pretty lame. The hero theme for the movie is so bad it actively ruins the star destroyer ramming scene because it is just so out of place. The best non-Williams Star Wars composer is Mark Griskey, hands down. His music hits a lot of the subtler stuff that Williams can do rather than aping his bombastic themes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcxMiGjA1u0 This music is written entirely for a single, incredibly minor character in the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGI8mWG9VCk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjngOprs6As They still nail the atmosphere of Star Wars while also having a muted, uneasy feel to them that matches the game's tone perfectly. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Aug 31, 2019 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:Giacchino's music sounds like the kind of thing you get for a Star Wars fanfilm. Little of its own identity but distinct enough to avoid a lawsuit. So I actually find much of his rogue one soundtrack pretty lame. The hero theme for the movie is so bad it actively ruins the star destroyer ramming scene because it is just so out of place. The Hope theme is fine when it's presented in an understated form (Jyn's speech to the Rebel council, for example) but when it kicks into overdrive it gives me heavy Starcrash vibes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGjGx-BUrx4&t=41s quote:The best non-Williams Star Wars composer is Mark Griskey, hands down. His music hits a lot of the subtler stuff that Williams can do rather than aping his bombastic themes. KotOR 2 also has the distinction of not being scored by an alleged rapist!
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Cross-Section posted:Trinity and Beyond almost sounds more Holst-ian than Williams-esque, which, I guess, is appropriate enough. I'm pretty sure Stromberg is a big Herrmann fan - I hear a lot of Mysterious Island in the Trinity and Beyond soundtrack.
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i hated the score in there will be blood so much that i couldnt finish the movie. so loud and in your face and on top of everything else.
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I love meself some plucked strings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0T3vJ7u-j4 But I like Jonny Greenwood to begin with, even when he’s just being very Radiohead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMgJW8pxPwQ Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Sep 6, 2019 |
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It's a licensed song, but it's instrumental so I think you won't mind. Featured in Ad Astra. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIwwjy4slI8 It's a shame they don't use the second half of the song. I think it would be perfect for the third act. The last time I was caught that off-guard at the use of a song I know was Equals in 2015. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fy4YPd7viU This plays during a love/sex scene. That sounds really weird out of context, but it makes perfect sense in the movie, which features classical compositions as diegetic music. So there is a contrast between the harmony of their working environment and the dissonance of their private life.
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Slaapaav posted:i hated the score in there will be blood so much that i couldnt finish the movie. so loud and in your face and on top of everything else. Used to feel like this but it grew on me.
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Just got out of Monos and gotta say Mica Levi is absolutely the best working film composer
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I am digging the poo poo out of the Watchmen score. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQBmALfSFEU I don't really want to spend $75 on it, but I probably will.
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Sorry for the double post, but the first album is streaming on Spotify. It's pretty loving great if you like their previous scores.
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It's pretty great yeah. Really seems like Atticus Ross keeps Reznor in check from his NiN tendencies of starting a track off solid and then ruining it by devolving it into cacophonous noise. Unrelated but why is Elliot Goldenthal not more appreciated? He made the best Alien score after all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQrcwBJU6f0
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Elliot Goldenthal also made the best 300 music that Tyler Bates used as temp tracks and then released as his own plagiarized score.
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The Lighthouse soundtrack is one of the most intense and off kilter I’ve heard in a long while. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7opqWLgMCE
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Like, drat, Ludwig Göransson's Mandalorian score really loving slaps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXp4GnC1Z3Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0Q0jx0Jk8Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBvQ75bwn28
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Holy poo poo HE did the score? That makes sense why it rules.
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it only took them forty years to make an honest to goodness space western
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Cross-Section posted:Like, drat, Ludwig Göransson's Mandalorian score really loving slaps ![]()
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Oh I don't actually like it very much. Huh. I should give it another chance, maybe I was tainted by not enjoying the actual show a whole lot (it's not bad tho)
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I got some Temple of Doom vibes from the main titles for The Mandalorian. The trumpet section is a meaner variation of Parade of the Slave Children.
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Cross-Section posted:Like, drat, Ludwig Göransson's Mandalorian score really loving slaps
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Listened to that Mandalorian main theme a couple of times on repeat and it's giving me some really wonderful old school 80s TV action adventure vibes, like The A-Team.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzkOHxuWGv4 I hope göransson keeps this up because it is such a nice change of pace from John Williams imitators.
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Vegetable posted:Usually Hollywood composing avoids big melodies so the music doesn't distract from the visuals. But the style here is really heavy on the melodies, typically something you hear more with wind ensembles/symphonic bands. As a former band member... extremely into this poo poo. Doing the nice Morricone-era callbacks but extremely his own thing also.
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About 50 minutes of the TROS score is out via the Disney FYC site Not the entire thing mind, (no main title or credits, which is usual for the FYC score) but what is there is so, so good. edit: looks like it was taken down, but I'm already seeing tracks going up on Youtube and elsewhere Cross-Section fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Dec 11, 2019 |
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Cross-Section posted:About 50 minutes of the TROS score is out via the Disney FYC site I was going to wait to watch it first... but gently caress it. I can’t wait.
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This is a favorite of mine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jynq4lEwbew
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQBodvlbSI0 This will probably get taken down soon, but John Williams seems to be pulling out all the stops for his last hurrah. Certainly better than his Last Jedi score, which I feel is probably his weakest Star Wars music due to it mostly being variations on existing themes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cz7dSYNhxE The way Kylo's theme pops up here had me actually doing a double-take.
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Arcsquad12 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQBodvlbSI0 Having listened to this a few times, I think it's pretty much hands down the worst of the Star Wars scores. Copied from the spoiler thread: quote:This is easily the worst Star Wars score and I'm including Solo and Rogue One in this assessment.
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The Mandalorian score has continued to be stellar at least.
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I didn't think it was to remarkable or memorable. It's serviceable but they lean on the main theme way too much for my taste.
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Darko posted:I re-listened to Phantom Menace (which is a really, really excellent score and possibly top 3 in the series) and then Revenge (as a more fitting comparison) to compare, and the big issue is that this one has nothing really new at all for themes. I mean, it has two new themes/motifs, but they don't seem to peak anywhere or do anything interesting and sound like lesser versions of stuff from his scores from, like, Minority Report. So then, everything else are just motifs peaking in and out of Mickey Mousing. This is how I felt about The Last Jedi's score. Having watched Rise of Skywalker, I feel the same way, but I also noticed some really weird music choices that were lifted straight from the Prequels and sounded really out of place. When Zori and Poe are chatting on the rooftop it's playing the music from Attack of the Clones where Cliegg tells Anakin about the Sand People attack on their farmstead. That's a really subtle piece of music but it's also one of the best tracks from Episode 2 so it sounds weird being played out of context. Force Awakens still has an excellent soundtrack but honestly it feels like Williams was tapped out so he just started playing his classics and edited them to fit the timecodes. Still better than Rogue One's first draft soundtrack that sounds like something out of a fanfilm. Somebody hire Mark Griskey and get him to make more Star Wars music. The guy gets the subtle parts of Williams's scores and doesn't go overboard on the bombast.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/consequence/status/1209506029802795008quote:As is the case with all of his film scores, Reznor worked on Bird Box with fellow NIN member Atticus Ross. However, he felt others involved in the project were simply not up to the task. “When we got immersed in it, it felt like some people were phoning it in,” Reznor commented.
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So, I've recently fallen down a Max Richter hole and discovered this song from Hostiles and this song from Ad Astra and love them. I probably don't have the technical chops to explain what I love so much about these songs but it's essentially that the entire song swells while there's a consistent, sometimes repeating, chord progression underneath that kind of drives it all? Zimmer and his students do a similar thing (e.g., Time, Journey to the Line, Duck Shoot, His Majesty, etc.) but Max Richter is the only one that does it in this specific way as far as I've heard. Are there any other songs in his discography that have this same kind of structure? Or other composers that are doing similar things?
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Chaotic Flame posted:this song from Ad Astra and love them. I probably don't have the technical chops to explain what I love so much about these songs but it's essentially that the entire song swells while there's a consistent, sometimes repeating, chord progression underneath that kind of drives it all? Zimmer and his students do a similar thing
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I only recently saw the director's cut of Donnie Darko and holy poo poo replacing the Echo and the Bunnymen song with the INXS song made the opening seem like a fan-made music video. It's dreadful. Other songs were moved around from one scene to another too and it's just.. weird.
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Michael Giacchino did good work for EA games really early in his career https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZHuUkrWPiI
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Chaotic Flame posted:So, I've recently fallen down a Max Richter hole and discovered this song from Hostiles and this song from Ad Astra and love them. I probably don't have the technical chops to explain what I love so much about these songs but it's essentially that the entire song swells while there's a consistent, sometimes repeating, chord progression underneath that kind of drives it all? Zimmer and his students do a similar thing (e.g., Time, Journey to the Line, Duck Shoot, His Majesty, etc.) but Max Richter is the only one that does it in this specific way as far as I've heard. Are there any other songs in his discography that have this same kind of structure? Or other composers that are doing similar things? I've only now gotten around to listening to the Ad Astra score and what I've heard so far I really like. My main thought is basically how little I paid attention to the score while I watched the movie because on its own it's pretty drat good. I should point out, as more of a response to your post that Lorne Balfe worked on the Ad Astra score too and he's one of Zimmer's guys so what of that there is in Ad Astra could well come from him. And to answer your question I can't think of many other composers who utilize layering in a climactic piece in the same way Zimmer does, "Chevaliers De Sangreal" from The Da Vinci Code is one of the prime examples of that where he adds repeating layers to a steady "core" to work up to a climax. E: I've had the score on loop for almost two days and when it's not weird, noisy and bombastic (not in a bad way), it's.. sad, like genuinely melancholy stuff. I need to watch the movie again. Julius CSAR posted:Michael Giacchino did good work for EA games really early in his career I've posted this before but this is a pretty good example of Giacchino mimicking Williams' style which seemingly wound up being his only notable trait. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4PM-4cRTx0 Stare-Out fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Mar 9, 2020 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XaBl9Wem1s Going back and listening to more of The Mandalorian score and holy loving poo poo I forgot just how good the music in Chapter 4 is.
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So I've never been much of a fan of Don Davis. You know, that guy who scored the Matrix movies and crucially wasn't John Williams for Jurassic Park 3? But then I watched this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhRjn_jpQxk And it turns out Don Davis was basically playing fourth dimensional musical chess with the score to the first Matrix movie. I mean, holy poo poo.
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