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Andrigaar
Dec 12, 2003
Saint of Killers
I really wish this hopefully very last part of ZeroRanger didn't mimic my absolutely least favorite part of Radiant Silvergun.

Anyway, that's three times now I failed to make the ultimate sacrifice. Only this time the game crashed as I failed.

E: After my fourth failure I looked up how to savescum the TFB and prepped that up, entering that stage with 5 pips. Naturally without the irritation of having to start over if I died, I finished it taking I believe 3 hits and didn't end up actually doing it. But the intent and desire were there.

Andrigaar fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Jul 31, 2020

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leather fedora
Jun 27, 2004

The closest acceptable translation is
"die properly"
Looks like a proper shmup wiki was launched recently. I'm a little surprised there wasn't something like this already (besides the half-baked wikia one).
https://twitter.com/Plasmo_STG/status/1289437878871703553

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

leather fedora posted:

Looks like a proper shmup wiki was launched recently. I'm a little surprised there wasn't something like this already (besides the half-baked wikia one).
https://twitter.com/Plasmo_STG/status/1289437878871703553

Neat!

Blattdorf
Aug 10, 2012

"This will be the best for both of us, Bradley."
"Meow."

leather fedora posted:

Looks like a proper shmup wiki was launched recently. I'm a little surprised there wasn't something like this already (besides the half-baked wikia one).
https://twitter.com/Plasmo_STG/status/1289437878871703553

The Hellsinker page is already doing a pretty drat good job of explaining the game. It's quickly turning into THE knowledge base for shmups.

Kagaya Homoraisan
Aug 28, 2019

You say, run away
Instead, you get scared
For the way that I feel
Drops out into all this disorder

Blattdorf posted:

The Hellsinker page is already doing a pretty drat good job of explaining the game. It's quickly turning into THE knowledge base for shmups.

hello, im the writer for the hellsinker page :P

bees x1000
Jun 11, 2020

I hope the shmups wiki includes stuff like death penalties/respawn behavior: e.g. checkpoints, power down, bomb loss, multiplier loss, etc..

I hate checkpoints with a passion.

Andrigaar
Dec 12, 2003
Saint of Killers
Almost 1CC'd Crimzon Clover on Original/Novice (Hey, it's hard :( ) with the Z-ship I'd unlocked last night. Blew my load on the final EX boss and it just laughed at me did the stupid anime cliche "THAT WASN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM!" and I died shortly after while scanning the new bullet pattern.
Had to continue, didn't die again, saw credits roll.

Hadn't played in 1 year to the day according to Steam, but I think that was also the first time I got past level 3 without a continue. Totally the hardest level on Original/Novice for me so far.

E: Tried again and got it just barely.

Andrigaar fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Aug 3, 2020

Blattdorf
Aug 10, 2012

"This will be the best for both of us, Bradley."
"Meow."

Kagaya Homoraisan posted:

hello, im the writer for the hellsinker page :P

Excellent job. The bit about Fate Control was new to me.

Ineptitude
Mar 2, 2010

Heed my words and become a master of the Heart (of Thorns).
How do i get past Jets N Guns 2, Stage 2 (Skyway Alpha) on Nightmare round 3?

I don't have enough dps to kill the various barriers before i am slammed into them.

Using Cyberia Frostgun and 2x VX Quattro, all 3 with Damage Booster. These are the 3 highest DPS guns i have unlocked so far and all 3 has everything concentrated in forward beams so i don't really understand how it is not enough DPS.
Tigerfun missiles
Godfinger bombs
Flipper and Shrinker devices

Coolingfan, Nanomachines, Circulus, Blast Projector, Shield and G.E.M Connector for equipment

Jolo
Jun 4, 2007

ive been playing with magnuts tying to change the wold as we know it

I don't know what's happening in ZeroRanger but I like it. Music is great. I feel like I'm getting better but still have a few moments where I can't figure out how to get through without taking a hit. It also doesn't help that I keep thinking "oh, I should remap slow or autofire" and then in the moment I forget which button is slow and which is transform and I eat it. There's a part at the start of Stage 4 where a bunch of enemies do this clockwise wave around you and I always get hit when they come up from underneath while rotating. I could use the reverse fire option but I prefer the split shot in the front for a lot of the harder areas.

Also glad that there's finally a new checkpoint to start from after the boss gauntlet and then new music!

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Ineptitude posted:

How do i get past Jets N Guns 2, Stage 2 (Skyway Alpha) on Nightmare round 3?

I don't have enough dps to kill the various barriers before i am slammed into them.

Using Cyberia Frostgun and 2x VX Quattro, all 3 with Damage Booster. These are the 3 highest DPS guns i have unlocked so far and all 3 has everything concentrated in forward beams so i don't really understand how it is not enough DPS.
Tigerfun missiles
Godfinger bombs
Flipper and Shrinker devices

Coolingfan, Nanomachines, Circulus, Blast Projector, Shield and G.E.M Connector for equipment

Do you have the Fireball available? If so, put that in your main slot with an Anarchon. Everything will die.

You might want to swap your devices for some antimatter weapons too. You definitely won't need a Flipper on that level.

Hwurmp fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Aug 13, 2020

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

I just played back through Skyway Alpha 3 and you don't get Fireballs and Anarchons that soon, but this should work great instead:



The Flamethrower is way, way stronger than its on-paper DPS would indicate. Eventually you can match it to higher-DPS guns and make it the strongest weapon in the game. For now, drone it up as much as possible with Rammers in your side slots and a Muon Time Ring for double range, Aim Enhancer to kill whatever you click on, and Heat Sink combined with Cyberia Frostgun in the back so you never have to stop burnin'.

Jolo
Jun 4, 2007

ive been playing with magnuts tying to change the wold as we know it

I need a little nudge in the right direction in ZeroRanger. I must be missing something.

Currently I can start from Stages 1 to 4 and 2-1 to 2-3. I finished 2-3 and afterwards the game put me back at the results screen.

Weapon wise, I have two options for each upgrade. It looks like I can get 3 for each but I don't know what would unlock those. I just got what looks like my final extra continue unlocked. This game is a lot of fun and the music is excellent. I'm definitely improving because going back and doing stages 1 through 4 was easy after getting a bit further.

Andrigaar
Dec 12, 2003
Saint of Killers
Do you mean the two YES/NO prompts? You'll need to risk everything, which means that you: ante up your save file, and there's no going back without duping your save file on the down-low.



VVVV
E: OH, that. Actually my favorite part of the game too.

Andrigaar fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Aug 15, 2020

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Jolo posted:

I need a little nudge in the right direction in ZeroRanger. I must be missing something.

Currently I can start from Stages 1 to 4 and 2-1 to 2-3. I finished 2-3 and afterwards the game put me back at the results screen.

Weapon wise, I have two options for each upgrade. It looks like I can get 3 for each but I don't know what would unlock those. I just got what looks like my final extra continue unlocked. This game is a lot of fun and the music is excellent. I'm definitely improving because going back and doing stages 1 through 4 was easy after getting a bit further.

you should show the 2-3 boss what you got from them the first time around

Jolo
Jun 4, 2007

ive been playing with magnuts tying to change the wold as we know it

lets hang out posted:

you should show the 2-3 boss what you got from them the first time around

Oh duh, I did that the first time and got smoked and I guess on the second go I didn't use it at all.

Holy smokes, this is way harder than pretty much everything else. Getting absolutely wrecked.

edit: Got past that and this poo poo has gone off the rails and this new boss is a nightmare and is very aptly named. Good god. This boss is so hard that it feels like I've hosed up and it's actually literally impossible :(

Jolo fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Aug 15, 2020

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

New indie shmup done by a tiny dev team, Super XYX, was recently released on Steam and itch:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXGTj7T8nA0

If you're into obscure PC indie shmups, you will recognize the visual style - dev made previously ZenoHell and Fire Arrow

https://store.steampowered.com/app/654500/Super_XYX/

https://gryzor.itch.io/super-xyx

Ineptitude
Mar 2, 2010

Heed my words and become a master of the Heart (of Thorns).
Thanks!

It makes no sense why that loadout is so powerful; its preposterous how much better it is than my previous loadout.
Thats my least favorite aspect about JnG2 tbh, all those extra doodads to put in your ship multiplies the amount of various "builds" so much and i am terrible at finding "builds" in any game
I got through every level of JnG1 on the hardest difficulty, eventually, by trying weapon after weapon. Eventually something would stick and the level was completable. In that game it was only weapons though, not devices and equipment and G.E.Ms

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

laserghost posted:

New indie shmup done by a tiny dev team, Super XYX, was recently released on Steam and itch:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXGTj7T8nA0

If you're into obscure PC indie shmups, you will recognize the visual style - dev made previously ZenoHell and Fire Arrow

https://store.steampowered.com/app/654500/Super_XYX/

https://gryzor.itch.io/super-xyx

That looks kickass and has an awesome demoscene feel

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Ineptitude posted:

Thanks!

It makes no sense why that loadout is so powerful; its preposterous how much better it is than my previous loadout.
Thats my least favorite aspect about JnG2 tbh, all those extra doodads to put in your ship multiplies the amount of various "builds" so much and i am terrible at finding "builds" in any game
I got through every level of JnG1 on the hardest difficulty, eventually, by trying weapon after weapon. Eventually something would stick and the level was completable. In that game it was only weapons though, not devices and equipment and G.E.Ms

I stopped fiddling with loadouts in the first game once I got the hexagonal laser weapon. Too powerful.

Jolo
Jun 4, 2007

ive been playing with magnuts tying to change the wold as we know it

1. Success! Elation!
2. Defeat
3. A new beginning

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

laserghost posted:

New indie shmup done by a tiny dev team, Super XYX, was recently released on Steam and itch:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXGTj7T8nA0

If you're into obscure PC indie shmups, you will recognize the visual style - dev made previously ZenoHell and Fire Arrow

https://store.steampowered.com/app/654500/Super_XYX/

https://gryzor.itch.io/super-xyx

this is cool but don't close the program by clicking on the x in the corner because it won't save your scores and unlocks

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS-1G-ZyGMM

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Ineptitude posted:

Thanks!

It makes no sense why that loadout is so powerful; its preposterous how much better it is than my previous loadout.
Thats my least favorite aspect about JnG2 tbh, all those extra doodads to put in your ship multiplies the amount of various "builds" so much and i am terrible at finding "builds" in any game
I got through every level of JnG1 on the hardest difficulty, eventually, by trying weapon after weapon. Eventually something would stick and the level was completable. In that game it was only weapons though, not devices and equipment and G.E.Ms

You were already off to a good start with the Blast Projector and drones; the Flamethrower just has bullshit power that the numbers don't show.


:cumpolice:

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.


Charlie's (of Scoregasm/Deathbase 9kk/Bullet Candy) first game, I think.

He also made a sole vertical scrolling score attack game, Irukandji:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tph_Y1ppXrM

japtor
Oct 28, 2005
This looks pretty cool:
https://twitter.com/boghogooo/status/1292112373248077825

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


Was super hydorah considered decent?

bees x1000
Jun 11, 2020

Ineffiable posted:

Was super hydorah considered decent?

If you like classic Gradius, it's classic Gradius.

I think the game is competent but kinda dull.

Diabetes Forecast
Aug 13, 2008

Droopy Only

I've played a test build, and while it was def an old one, it feels way too hard and really unbalanced.

On another note, I got my favorite shooter, Dotechin working again thanks to DxWnd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJeR9uNkjeM

I'm not as good at it as I used to be, honestly. but I atleast remember most of the stage layout for stages 1 and 2B. I rarely see 2A much anymore but it's got a way more annoying boss. (I will have to fix volume on the next recording)

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Ineffiable posted:

Was super hydorah considered decent?

Super Hydorah kicks rear end and got some real hype moments. The graphics and music are top notch.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Hydorah isn't just Gradius, it's a love letter to lots of shmups in that style, including Turrican of all things.

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

Also, if you're bad at Gradius-style memorising the routes, you will have a bad time. I never got past that huge fleet invasion.

Check the freeware version, the game is still ace, and has great presentation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF6IQgOpsoQ

bees x1000
Jun 11, 2020

Rumors/hints going around that shottriggers Ketsui is going to get an NA PSN release to coincide with the upcoming SGDQ run. If this run is as good as gus' Futari run, Cave would be wise to cash in on the hype.

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy
Getting Futari on PSN or Steam would be so loving nice, on that note.

I have Futari on XB360 but I don't have a 360 anymore, so uh.

Kagaya Homoraisan
Aug 28, 2019

You say, run away
Instead, you get scared
For the way that I feel
Drops out into all this disorder
ketsui was caught because of a website that tracks things uploaded to the psn, even if they dont get a public facing page, so its on the store somewhere. whether it comes out in time for sgdq is one thing but the chance we get it period is pretty high.

as for the run itself, moglar is a really talented person and has been grinding like crazy for this so i think it wont disappoint.

FanaticalMilk
Mar 11, 2011


The Illmatic game that got teased for Switch got revealed to be Illmatic Envelope Swamp and will be releasing in Japan this Winter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHhR_ysuSc

Ineptitude
Mar 2, 2010

Heed my words and become a master of the Heart (of Thorns).
Wow the JnG2 Fireball is absurd.

Its destroying things i didn't even know could be destroyed, like the various floating islands with buildings on them on some levels. Other weapons destroy the buildings, fireball just destroys the whole island.

Whats the best application for the equalizer G.E.M?

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Put the highest-DPS gun available in your rear slot with an Aim Enhancer(Tesla Devastator is the highest possible) and then Equalize your main gun to that.

Zeether
Aug 26, 2011

All of Degica's shmup releases are on sale this weekend, I picked up DFK and Dariusburst. Was able to do burst counters a few times in DB but hot drat is it hard to get it right.

Zeether fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Aug 21, 2020

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Blattdorf
Aug 10, 2012

"This will be the best for both of us, Bradley."
"Meow."

Zeether posted:

All of Degica's shmup releases are on sale this weekend, I picked up DFK and Dariusburst. Was able to do burst counters a few times in DB but hot drat is it hard to get it right.

Fly into the beam as you're winding up the burst. That wind-up is the timing window.

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