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skooma512 posted:Anybody know where I can get some packet tracer assignments? https://blog.certskills.com/ccna/category/chapter100105/chap01/ https://blog.certskills.com/ccna/category/chapter200105/chap01/ These are some configuration challenges from Odom that I have been using. They are pretty good at getting you familiar with commands and configurations, not much troubleshooting since you are doing the initial configuration yourself. They correspond to the chapters in his books, but I don't think you'd need the book to use them.
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Does the new CCNA still use Class A/B/C? I'm brushing up again after letting my cert lapse.
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Sep 20, 2017 17:40
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Good God the A+ 901 is an insipid test. Took it this morning and man a good 80% of the exam was completely irrelevant to my helpdesk/junior sysadmin job. When the gently caress am I ever going to be crimping cat6 by hand?? Took it mostly cold and passed just fine fortunately. Might study a bit harder for the 902 if its test asks similarly inane questions.
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Sep 20, 2017 18:03
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I've crimped quite a few cables in my day. If the 902 is anything like the 80s was, it'll be easier for you than the 901. The troubleshooting stuff is what people say is "harder" but that's because it's not rote memorization
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Sep 20, 2017 18:06
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902 is full of "What NEXT" and "BEST choice" questions, which just loving suck. If you can think like a bullshit non-IT guy trying to show off how much he knows to a CEO, you can figure out most of the questions by how 'good' they sound. I passed with a huge margin 2 days after taking the 901.
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Sep 20, 2017 18:23
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The Iron Rose posted:Good God the A+ 901 is an insipid test. Took it this morning and man a good 80% of the exam was completely irrelevant to my helpdesk/junior sysadmin job. When the gently caress am I ever going to be crimping cat6 by hand?? CompTIA tests are always full of irrelevant garbage, but if they are asking about wiring CAT5/6, that stuff is useful to know just in a 'I understand how this works, if not the exact pins' sense. I don't think I would trust an network guy who at least didn't understand the difference between a straight through and crossover cable(not that it matters as much anymore) And A+ is all about basic entry-level bullshit.
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Sep 20, 2017 23:01
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I sit ICND1 in 36 hours, other than subnetting what should I make sure to hit hard that will have a large portion of the test? I feel like I'm good on switch configuration, other than VTY config, but I (roughly) know the commands so I should be able to use help menus to round that out during the test, help does work, correct? I've heard it does, unless that changed. I probably need to brush up a bit on router config, especially OSPF, because I don't deal with routers much at work, not as much as switches anyway.
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Sep 21, 2017 05:29
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I highly doubt you'll get an ospf config sim on exam 1. As long as you know how it works, when it should be used, and priority order between ospf and eigrp and static you should be covered.
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Sep 21, 2017 06:19
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MF_James posted:I sit ICND1 in 36 hours, other than subnetting what should I make sure to hit hard that will have a large portion of the test? Here is a question I had on my ICND1 and never saw in my training materials: What Layer does CDP operate on? Well, my book never covered CDP. But it is Cisco Discovery Protocol, and it is a protocol that Cisco devices use to discover each other. Which narrows down to Layer 2 easily enough. Most of the ICND1 was about subnetting, layer levels(know these!), and basic switch/router configs.
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Sep 21, 2017 07:06
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Peachfart posted:Here is a question I had on my ICND1 and never saw in my training materials: Lammle covers CDP so I'm good there, not super in-depth but yeah it covers it. Cool, that jives with what I was figuring, subnetting, theory and basic configs.
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It's been a while (and at least one revision so this may not be accurate anymore) since I took it, but I think there are some questions about common ports. What port is used for ssh, http/s, telnet, smtp, dns, etc.
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rafikki posted:It's been a while (and at least one revision so this may not be accurate anymore) since I took it, but I think there are some questions about common ports. What port is used for ssh, http/s, telnet, smtp, dns, etc. port 69 - TFTP port 666 - doom multiplayer (yes, really) port 420 - reserved for SMPTE whatever the hell that is And with this final lesson, you are ready to sit for your CCNA, my son
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Sep 21, 2017 14:47
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Kashuno posted:I've crimped quite a few cables in my day. Yeah the 902 was easy in comparison. Way fewer questions I was unsure on. The Sims were a tad more difficult than the 901, but not by much and only because they restricted what I'd typically use to troubleshoot and disabled the switch list for commands. Which is fine, whatever, good to know, but while the information relating to how systems work and troubleshooting principles are all fine, the rote memorization was annoying as all hell.
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The Iron Rose posted:Good God the A+ 901 is an insipid test. Took it this morning and man a good 80% of the exam was completely irrelevant to my helpdesk/junior sysadmin job. When the gently caress am I ever going to be crimping cat6 by hand?? If you want to work on networks you by God better loving drat well learn your color order! At my last job I had a CCNP coworker who refused to touch the goddamn network. I hated her with every fiber of my being. When she was forced to have to run some cable with me I had to teach her the color order. I was loving flaberghasted. MrBigglesworth fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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Sep 21, 2017 17:14
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You should never have to teach anybody the color order anyway. If they can't google "cat 6 color order" they don't deserve to work in IT.
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That is beside the point. The fact she got as far as she did without ever really touching the network is what pissed me off. She tried to do everything from her desk via remote console.
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MF_James posted:I sit ICND1 in 36 hours, other than subnetting what should I make sure to hit hard that will have a large portion of the test? Good luck!
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Judge Schnoopy posted:You should never have to teach anybody the color order anyway. If they can't google "cat 6 color order" they don't deserve to work in IT. The little punchdown block I have helpfully lists the colors right on it.
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MF_James posted:I sit ICND1 in 36 hours, other than subnetting what should I make sure to hit hard that will have a large portion of the test? My advice, even though you said "other than subnetting" - write up a big subnetting chart right when you sit down during the tutorial portion. Block sizes/slash notation/classes/number of subnets/etc just to get it on paper and save you time. It helped me a lot during the test in terms of time management. I guess if you have any ports off the top of your head, throw those on there too. Edit: Something like this - https://danielmiessler.com/images/subnetting-table.png Japanese Dating Sim fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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For ICND1 you can be a bit iffy on subnetting from what I remember, it asks rather basic questions like 'What is the final routable IP address in 192.168.5.33/26'. But on the ICND2 if you can't count binary in your head, you will be in serious trouble. Every testlet I had assumed you knew your subnetting, and then asked you the real question.
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:My advice, even though you said "other than subnetting" - write up a big subnetting chart right when you sit down during the tutorial portion. Yeah you get 15 minutes to prepare before starting, so write down all the charts and acronyms you can think of so you don't get confused later.
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MrBigglesworth posted:If you want to work on networks you by God better loving drat well learn your color order! Nothing about color order was actually in the book or on the test, though I think I've had the importance of knowing your CAT6 suitably impressed upon me  In any event, A+ is done. Already have a job so I'll wait till I've been there long enough for them to pay for certs before doing my Network and Security+. After that, CCNA or the various Microsoft certs I think.
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The Iron Rose posted:Nothing about color order was actually in the book or on the test, though I think I've had the importance of knowing your CAT6 suitably impressed upon me  Congrats!Cat6 color order is on the N+, they even had a sim where you had to place them in the correct order when I took it. I think I hosed it up because I gave them A when they asked for B or some bullshit.
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If your work makes you get you N+, or pays you more, get it. Otherwise I'd skip N+. Studying for the ICND1 will teach you so much more, and is useful towards a CCNA. N+ was probably the worst CompTIA test I took in terms of 'memorize a bunch of dumb bullshit'. Sec+ is decent though. And I say this as someone who has an A+, N+, Sec+.
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Peachfart posted:If your work makes you get you N+, or pays you more, get it. Otherwise I'd skip N+. Studying for the ICND1 will teach you so much more, and is useful towards a CCNA. N+ was probably the worst CompTIA test I took in terms of 'memorize a bunch of dumb bullshit'. Sec+ is decent though.  ICND1 might seem scary at first and it's definitely harder than N+, but it's more practical and valuable and doesn't get blown away by the next Cisco cert you already plan on getting.
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I've been buying books and studying for my drat CCNA for a decade. I was up for a job at Cisco (non-technical) and was so excited to throw all my certificate training books in the trash. Alas I'm still in a NOC. At some point I'll get my act together and at least get the ICND1. The best suggestion I've found is to schedule your test and then worry about studying because that at least cures the procrastination. Does Cisco offer a test tier with a free exam retake like CompTIA? I feel like the only reason I passed my Sec+ was because I knew I had a second shot and could relax.
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Krispy Kareem posted:I've been buying books and studying for my drat CCNA for a decade. No, as far as I know there are no retakes. In fact, after you fail you can't retake the test for a week. And if you have been working with Cisco equipment for years, you should be able to pass the ICND1 without much difficulty. It is basically: can you subnet? Do you know basic router/switch setup? Know your ports? Know your layers? If so, you can pass.
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My Odom ICND1 book arrives tomorrow. Hoping to have my CCENT by January. I'm still planning to pursue a MCSA later in 2018, but thinking about doing the Sec+ after the CCENT (especially now that my new job uses a .edu address, hello discount). Would y'all recommend it as a general-purpose cert for someone probably not pursuing a security career? I was mainly considering it for fleshing out my resume and being eligible for DoD jobs (of which there are several in my area), but if it's not worth much I might skip it til I'd actually have specific use for it.
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Space Racist posted:My Odom ICND1 book arrives tomorrow. Hoping to have my CCENT by January. Get ICND2 after ICND1. Once you've passed ICND1 it's not that much of a slog to finish the process and then you've got your CCNA. Sec+ is probably worthwhile even if you aren't necessarily going for a security position. If nothing else the material is a good foundation. Companies that aren't doing DoD stuff are probably more likely to care about it in a DoD heavy area too. Also it should only take you like 6 weeks at most.
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Peachfart posted:No, as far as I know there are no retakes. In fact, after you fail you can't retake the test for a week. 90% of it is being paranoid I'm going to fail and putting it off. Also, I'm really bad at subnetting. Like I'll study and know my CIDR tables like a pro and almost be able to do it in my head and then I don't use it (because my job doesn't actually require me to subnet) and all that knowledge is flushed out of my brain in favor of Trump tweets or some poo poo. So I have to schedule a test to coincide with that brief period of time I actually remember something. But I'm a pro at my ports. TFTP! 
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Peachfart posted:No, as far as I know there are no retakes. In fact, after you fail you can't retake the test for a week. I would also say knowing the different show commands and what information they contain is also important. Even if you have e worked with the gear, it's possible that you may not have had the chance to use some of the more specific show commands they ask about if you're in the habit of just always looking at the full running config in order to troubleshoot.
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810/832 on ICND1 arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh There were 2-3 questions that I didn't even recall reading about, and 4-5 that I felt were somewhat ambiguous, but I was probably just not comprehending them well enough and another 2-3 that I know I got wrong because I didn't slow down and think about it for long enough. Gonna schedule again for 2-3 weeks out and just read over everything again especially my weak areas.
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MF_James posted:810/832 on ICND1 arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh You should have a 'percentage of answers correct' separated by topic, which were your lowest?
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Bummer, friend, but you'll be stronger for the experience. Good luck!
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832 is the passing score right? gently caress that sucks man. I'm sure you'll nail it next time
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skooma512 posted:832 is the passing score right? IIRC the passing score varies slightly based on the questions you get.
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:IIRC the passing score varies slightly based on the questions you get. I think it does, I had heard 830, but mine was 832, so I assume you're correct. Peachfart posted:You should have a 'percentage of answers correct' separated by topic, which were your lowest? oh yeah I got that, LAN switching fundamentals was my lowest, followed by routing fundamentals. Not oddly enough, I spent less time cramming those because I thought, obviously incorrectly, I had that nailed. I'm pulling the exam objectives for those sections off of ciscos site and going to hammer through those harder but still review everything over the next few weeks and nail it. Not really super bummed about it, more irritated I threw away $150 or whatever and burned some time off (though my work gave me a day and a half for free, so I only spent a day and a half)
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MF_James posted:I think it does, I had heard 830, but mine was 832, so I assume you're correct. From the documentation I see here, the nasty stuff in that section is: Port security VLANs Trunking Spanning Tree Did the old version of the test have Spanning Tree on it? Anyway, out of those, port security is usually 'memorize a few commands', but trunking and VLANs are something you need to know really really well. And I have no idea how in depth you need to get into spanning tree other than to know it exists(ICND2 has a lot of spanning tree). I'd practice using a simulator on 'router-on-a-stick' sims until your eyes bleed, that should get VLANs and trunking burned into your brain.
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You will get it. Thing is once you get into a network engineer job you will realize how old hat CCNA really is. Its just coming into it fresh that is overwhelming.
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To the dude that failed the ICND1 by 2 points: I recently passed the ICND1 last month and I had to take it twice. I thought it was a lot harder than everyone told me it would be, and what my school prepared me for. I also felt really bad about myself after my failure. But the next day, I logged on to netacad (student perk) and just downloaded every pertinent packet tracer and lab and just did them over and over for two weeks and then took the test again, got an 836, and passed. Its just a loving grind, that's all it is. Some of the questions that were on my test still have me scratching my head as to whether or not I got the correct answer, even now. I took the comptia A+ tests and passed them both in my sleep. The ICND1 and ICND2 are really different beasts, and kind of remind me of how taking the LSAT was back a decade ago. Im sure there are some genius level people that can walk into them and pass them first try without studying hung over, but that is not me or most people.
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