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Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Are those more practical than the DCUCD exams that they are retiring? SO far the ones I have taken feel like "which of the following gives Cisco the most money?"

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Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

SPICE MUST FLOW posted:

Anyone care to chime in on how long it takes (hours or otherwise) to do some of the certs like N+, S+, CCNA? I'm still trying to figure out where I want to go in my career path so at the bare minimum I want to finish N+ to build a solid knowledge of networking concepts then move onto something like server administration, virtualization, etc. Ideally I'd like to have N+, S+ and RHSCA all within 6 months and then move onto other certs.

That's a really loaded question.

How much experience do you have in said area's?
How (quickly) do you learn?
You say you are still trying to figure out stuff, but what interests you right now?

Getting a bunch of certs if fine, but if rush through them only going for the test requirements, you might miss out on learning some of the important concepts that will help you day to day.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Since you have some Linux, and Network experiences I would start with one of those, whichever one sparks interest with you most and study it. See how long it takes you to read and understand the material and take and pass the exam; that will give you a ball park of further certs.

I have this RHCSA (feel free to ask me about it) book, which does assume you know a good deal of networking prior to going in. I would say test the water with N+, then go to the vendor specifics.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Along with the VMware press
http://paulgrevink.wordpress.com/20...-now-available/
300+ pdf of almost everything you need to know for the DCA.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

GOOCHY posted:

Passed the Sec+ this morning. I hate the way CompTIA words questions on their tests. It's like they were written by a non-native English speaker.

I was debating about just taking it, haven't studied at all but I did take a security+ class at my CC a while back.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Neato, yeah looking to extract my self from this mess and most(if not all) the jobs want a S+.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

DropsySufferer posted:

My understanding of certifications is that unless IT companies/HR are aware of the certs and value them, they aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Now who here is interested enrolling in my exclusive (and very expensive) program to earn your GOON+ certification?

It really depends who you talk to, for example;

I work at an IT firm, where generally partnerships require an X number of employees to hold various certifications(one of many reasons I am fixated on them) held by the company to be considered a "partner". Now you may ask, why is this important? Well different partner levels get various levels of discounted pricing on equipment, and in some cases the ability to sell X product(s). Example; if you work for a Gold Level(or highest level) Dell partner, the higher partner level you have the better discounts you get, the better discounts you get, the lower the cost of the solution you are selling; the lowest cost solution generally wins the bid to the company, resulting in more work for the company, billable hours, and more value to yourself.

In government jobs they hold a different situation, paygrades, work level, and various other things. I am not too keen on it other than you'll need to fit the DoD standards, and I have worked with people who lacked knowledge on making windows images, lacked DCPROMO knowledge, and DNS skills; if that gives you a clue on how clueless people are... But I am sure someone else can give you a through overview.

In private or public jobs certs can be an awesome way to stand out from someone else, or outweigh an HR who is basically googling poo poo to figure out what the department needs. My roommate was able to outweigh the person he was going against for a job due to his CCNA.


Depends on the place entirely, however certs also hold another great function, benchmarking, and setting goals for yourself. Keep in mind certs are great to have passing a VCP test is awesome but understanding the material and the theory is a very good skill to have. Even if you don't know everything about everything, having a basic understanding of what needs to be done, what you need to do to get there, and last but not least, the initiative to go out and do it is a great trait to have.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Tab8715 posted:

May someone explain what's the difference between System Administration and System Engineering positions?

Depends on the job requirements completely however here is what I think it means;

System Administrator: Day to day operations of requests and operations, such as user account management, making sure servers and services are operational to end users, and maintain stability of an existing setup.

Systems Engineer: Indepth knowledge of a systems administrators workload, and engineers solutions to problems that corporations have to deal with; IE we need some FTP site setup can you do it, or We need office communications. Something that requires an amount of forethought and planning in order to resolve an issue that is costing the company time and money.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Guess I'll add this
VCP5-DT - VMware View (NOTE VCP5 IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO THIS TEST)
Material I used VMware View 5: Building a Successful Virtual Desktop, VMware View 5 Desktop Virtualization Solutions, and the exam blueprint.

To pass this test you really need to have some experience with view, if nothing else you'll really need to do some complex lab designs, leveraging AD policies, CA, Thinapp, Security servers, Event Servers; basically push what you know you can do with view and AD/GP to the limit.

First off I'll say the exam is not as focused on vSphere as much as the VCP510 exam did. The exam is going to go more into AD policies to optimize view, ThinApp(Setup and requirements to run), supported backed servers(Windows, vCenter, SQL, connection servers), and user interactions. The exam for me was a mash up of 50/50 real world and theory. Prepare to be asked questions like "You need to make sure only X user in Y Dept can access their desktop remotely, while keeping all other workers LAN only. How do you do this?" and "Which of these vmware setups could support view?" A big portion of the exam you probably won't see coming is the Group Policy, don't spend too much time on the customizing the windows 7 OS as you do Group Policy, be prepared to know about the process for setting up and deploying Thinapp solutions, and read the material I posted, if you do that you should do fine.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Well this new job has a pretty nice perk. They want me to get (min 1 cert/year), but preferably 3 or 4. I'm going to be working on various teams for the first 6 months so I can get an understanding of how each "team" works and the responsibility of the department/team. After which it is straight to VMware/storage/network. The good part is they pay for the cert and give you a nice bonus if you hit the goal of 3 certs a year. They pay for the books and training

The certs I am thinking about doing are;

VCAP-DCA, AutoDeploy and image building tripped me up I really should have just moved on and probably would have passed fine(taking it after a week in vegas probably wasn't the smartest thing in retrospect), got a 287... However my exam is on the 5th so I will probably get this prior to my hire date.
VCAP-DCA View, as I will be working quite a bit I am told with this product.
As well as the Windows 411 exam.

I would really, really, like to go for the DCD at VMworld, when I spoke to 1010101 about it, it seems like a fun exam. However I feel I should branch out a bit more into something else.

So, I am looking into CCNA-Datacenter, or RHCSA.

I like the objectives of the CCNA-Datacenter and think I could learn some best practice networking skills, however the RHCSA, while they don't have many unix customers in need of support they are growing, I feel it would be more fun and teach me a lot more.

Suggestions?

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Jelmylicious posted:

As a networker, I would say: go for that CCNA-DC. The workings of the network (storage or data) is integral to the working of your virtual environment. It will help you diagnose problems faster and help you speak the lingo with your networking team.

Since you seem to be compiling a list, how about some storage certs?

Already have the EMCISA, but the place I am going isn't an EMC reseller. Nettapp ain't going to happen in my area, I do hear they work a lot with 3Par.

I know a good amount of networking already, my current job is a huge Cisco Partner. I think I need to look up what sets the DC different from the CCNA.

Oh wait I never re-certified for the new EMC E10-001 ISM v2 Exam, I should probably just knock that out.

Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Mar 20, 2013

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

What do you study for EMCISA? I don't even see books specifically geared for it, is it just the Information Storage and Management book? I guess I expected there to be more, that seemed pretty high level, I dunno.

You study for how various SAN stuff works, it is actually pretty cool stuff if you want detailed insight on how things work.
http://www.amazon.com/Information-S.../dp/1118094832/

Covers how FC vs. IP base traffic work, how raid levels affect reads and writes, data replication and protection, how data is moved accessed, etc etc.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Manta posted:

I just got my A+, now I want to work towards getting CCNA. I can take some preparation classes, but it is kind of confusing. Maybe a dumb question, but what (if any) classes should I sign up for?

How familiar are you with networking, believe me there is a lot to it, if you are new to networking, when going for the CCNA.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

forever gold posted:

Is a CCNA without experience worthless?

Only if you CertKing'd it(course any cert is at that point). If you actually set up the labs(even packet tracer is head and sholders above most), and read the material it is full of worth.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

forever gold posted:

I see people on other tech forums and youtube going crazy with the labbing, having a full rack of switches/routers and whatnot. Curious how much of that is necessary. Makes the whole thing seem a bit daunting.

The farther you go obviously the better, and using real material is great. You can usually pull some cheap 296(5)0's, 1811's, and 28xx off ebay for cheap and play around. For some hands on stuff without buying all the equipment, check your local community college. Besides people networking is really important too, and most of the time people in CC's for things like CCNA study have jobs, sometimes if you are really good you can get them for an interview.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Tab8715 posted:

This has to be a joke... Right?

If it wasn't for the people we have interviewed(our process includes a lab) with a CCNA who;
Didn't know how to log into or access the cisco device
Didn't know the syntax structure
Didn't know the operation levels in IOS
etc etc

Packet tracer is FAR from perfect but it does give you at least an idea of what to do when you are in a device. But they could Subnet for me all day, tell me how many usable IP addresses there are, and recite me OSI model!

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

At least you are getting it the right way.

So loving over dealing with paper VCP's... I can't believe some of the poo poo I have heard these past few weeks.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

stubblyhead posted:

Any recommendations for VCP practice exams? Somewhere non-shady and not a braindump, of course. I don't mind paying if it's good content.

Trainsignal has some good ones, vmware elearning also provides you will some;
http://www.simonlong.co.uk/blog/vcp5-practice-exams/
http://mylearn.vmware.com/mgrSurvey...p=0&ui=www_cert

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

AntennaGeek posted:

So, the training budget got canned at work-- I was supposed to be sent off for RHCSA class this fall, followed by the exam.

Is it unheard of for someone already familiar with Red Hat/Centos in a production environment to be able to study/pass the RHCSA class on their own, without the week-long class?

( I've been studying the test objectives, and can do 3/4 of them by pure muscle memory alone... )

Any suggestions for study materials would be welcomed; I was planning to sit for the exam in August.

I never took it but I own this book, and can say it gave me a really solid understanding of the UNIX environment, and yeah I used Centos to do it. Going off the reviews it appears it has helped some people get there RHCSA.

Here is the updated version. http://www.amazon.com/RHCSA-Certifi.../dp/007180160X/

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

I am/was in a situation where my employer has the ability to take any training from the past year if I leave. Basically nothing became of it, my new company offered to pay if he did demand it.

Also, if they fire you then really good loving chance that breaks the contract, seeing as they were the party that did it you could not be held responsible.

If you want your bases covered for any huff puff, take the document to a lawyer and ask him to look it over. He should be able to say what options to company has if you are terminated.

Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Apr 24, 2013

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

jmu posted:

Passed 70-410 today, 968/1000. I don't know if its cool to link exam dumps here or not but that's basically what I used. In addition to CBT Nuggets which now I think I just watch because I hate myself.

Why did you use a dump? You just negate the value behind the cert...

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

I guess I can see where you are coming from but I have just met too many vcps who did just that, which followed up as them looking like an idiot in the interview. It's good you studied additionally, a lot don't do that. But still I try to separate myself from anything like that. My thing is if I didn't reseqch the blueprint and objectives enough I don't desirve the cert.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Found out my office has a CBT nuggets subscribtion

Can't find anything about the VCAP certifications on CBT


Anyone have some thoughts on TrainSignal?

Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 18:05 on May 13, 2013

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Anyone Got some good VCAP-DCD Study material?

I thought Trainsignal had some good packages, but it looks like they don't offer it past 4.

So far I am following the brownbags, blogs, and keeping up with the blue print but I know it is a big test.

I'd like to avoid the 3 day design workshops, but my work will pay for them.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Pantology posted:

I found the design workshop to be a bit dry, but the course materials were pretty comprehensive--I think they covered just about everything on the blueprint. I'd ask around to see if you can find someone that already sat through it, and borrow their books.

Yeah, I never liked them either, planning to couple/blogs/brownbags/etc it with this, wish it didn't only come out a month before VMworld(when I plan to give my first attempt).

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Can we get sometime added to the OP or title "don't talk about cheating".

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Pudgygiant posted:

I've been doing Cisco netadmin work for going on 5 years now. There's a difference between dumping to sit an exam you'd bomb otherwise, and doing it to know that Cisco doesn't allow "do" or "sh" on the exam.


No there isn't, you either know the material, or you have gaps where you need to study. That has to be the lamest excuse I hear constantly "I know how to do it, I just can't pass the test".

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

routenull0 posted:

Note: I am against braindumps in every fashion, no matter what explanation is put forth, time in the hotseat tends to rule those individuals out, but I have an interesting question.

What is your method to find the gaps on where you need to study? Pony up the money (or worse, have work pony up the money) and take the test and if you fail, hope the score report tells you what areas you did the weakest in?

My new job pays for the test regardless pass or fail, their angle is "we don't want to add pressure that you have to pay us back looming over you", so long as you show you put effort into it.

But mostly I will read a book or chapter covering a specific topic, write down the keywords/terms and write a 1-2 sentence description of what it is/does. I then attempt to do a lab with purely based off what I read, no following a lab guide, then if I can't get it I'll re read the chapter and then do the lab guide.

VMware is pretty good with practice exams so long as you utilize the mylearn site. Generally I will buy a book that has a cd with a mock exam, I only take them once or twice a week to avoid the memorization on answers. I also like to talk to myself in the car a lot about a chapter of a book I read or what not. There are poo poo load of mock exams out there, especially for CCNA(which other than the CCNA, for personal merit, I am not interested in much else)

Doing Teach assisting at my CC really helped me focus on weak points and what not, you get the most left field poo poo sometimes which has proven useful.

I also don't do much else at night/weeks than tinker with labs and try to know more than person/roommate/etc. Now that CS:Go has lost it's charm I am really doing a bunch more tinkering.

It also helps my Community college has a poo poo load of certificate programs for cheap.




Also work approved my VCAP-DCD goals for VMworld, this time I am taking it at the beginning of the trip, or first workshop, NOT after. Probably won't achieve it, but I am shooting for my VCDX at PEX/VMworld '15

Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 18:00 on May 15, 2013

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Mugaaz posted:

Why do people use such complete bullshit arguments that the most qualified guy is some raging rear end in a top hat who pulls his dick out while working, surfs porn on his computer, then hangs around the woman's bathroom. Using social connections is par for the course, I agree. Doesn't mean it's not completely unfair advantage, and not really any different than cheating on certs. Both are unfair advantages compared to the rest of the people on the level playing field. I'm not out to change the world regarding this, but do we have to glorify it? Everyplace I work see people hiring the most attractive girl, or the guy they know from high school, or the director's cousin, etc. It's stupid bullshit. Give me a cutthroat meritocracy any day. There is nothing better than losing because someone else is better, or winning because you're the best.

I got my YOTJ by donating my free time to my local CC VMware courses, I became friends with the VP of the company by helping out him and other students learn, and one of the teachers who turned out to be the lead Systems Guy at YoTJ. Through my donation of time and resources, I was able to show the people I knew my poo poo and I would be a valuable asset to their company.

I guess I was doing some pretty unfair "bullshit", huh?

Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 15:01 on May 16, 2013

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

AlmightyBob posted:

I'm about to start working on the 70-680 book and, uh, the Win7 Enterprise evaluation doesn't exist anymore. Microsoft replaced it with Win8...

http://www.mydigitallife.info/free-...icial-download/

Link to some of the official download links

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Well just turned in my Development path

Using the following books if anyone is interested

VCAP-DCD @ VMworld/ August

VCAP-DTD December
Building Virtual Desktops
VMware View 5 Virtual Desktops
Thinapp 4.7
Planned Mastering VMware View

70-341 (Exchange 2013) October
Exchanged 2013 Unleashed
CBT Nuggets

70-411 (Manage 2012) Novemeber
Big fan of the academic books
Windows Server 2012 inside and out
CBT Nuggets


Not super excited about Learning MS stuff but eh, '14 is full of Network and Storage, and PEX '16 VCDX attempt. But yeah probably not going to be as active on the forums coming up here.

Going to be a busy fall, but hey I get a nice bonus for each test I take + a end of year bonus.

Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 16:50 on May 21, 2013

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Tab8715 posted:

Is Citrix essentially remote desktop?

It can't possibly be that simple, there has to be more to it than this...

What do you mean?

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

CatsOnTheInternet posted:

I would rather watch old people gently caress than watch PCoIP perform over WAN.

What's wrong with PCoIP over WAN? I've really never had a problem with it, even the new BLAST(view in a browser) is surprisingly good prior to tuning.

Tab8715 posted:

What makes Citrix so good? It's essentially a better version of RDP... Why couldn't Microsoft make a better version of RDP for their own OS?

Windows has something like this and it sucks, I don't want to derail too much but there is much more that goes into VDI than just getting the image to the end user. Follow up in the VM thread if you want to go into it deeper.

Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 13:16 on May 24, 2013

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Well heading up to DC for an exam on June 8th(saturday) any goons want to grab dinner or something?

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Langolas posted:

Well fun cramming and studying. Passed my test to get my EMCISA cert. Felt like the exam studying was a dive into EMC products and propaganda. It was touted to me as an industry cert thats more agnostic. Yeah not really, but it did have some great information if you haven't done much with storage.

Yeah, it basically is that for the test. It felt like a VSTP to me

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Depends what is your experience with networking?

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

DropsySufferer posted:

I'm looking at starting on the VCP5-DCV cert from vmware as I'm told that would easier than a citrix certification. Just how difficult are vmware certs? Apart from the cost which I'll figure out how to deal with. Are they equal or harder than Cisco's? Less math I'm told which is a huge bonus for me but asking here.

Citrix is by far easier to get than VMware. VMware's tests are very very difficult if you haven't worked with the product, or architecture of a virtualized environment.

I wouldn't say they are as hard as cisco's "you forgot the - so it is wrong", but if you haven't been working with VMware or Virtualization you are going to have a tough time.

My friend did a right up of his expirence FYI
http://www.vhersey.com/2013/02/citr...a-for-xenapp-6/

Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jun 17, 2013

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Derp I can't read

Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Jun 17, 2013

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

demonachizer posted:

Does this allow you to take the VCP exam though? I know that you have to take the course through an authorized organization.

Wow it does. Why the hell would anyone pay 3k to do it if this exists?

Ones 3 days the other is 8 weeks, some people such as vendors will need to get X in order to sell Y. Or people just don't know about the VMware Academic Alliance.


also cool my school is still the only one that does the VCAP and VCP

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Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster


Pillbug

Hell most of the 180-120-90 day trials should last you long enough

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