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1000101
May 14, 2003

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GLBP is on the CCNA now? Neat.

I'll be happy to answer any questions that may not be clear from reading/studies as I'm sure many other folks here would be. It can be pretty demoralizing to fail a test twice but I'm sure most of us have been there.

To practice the topics you may consider looking at something like GNS3 to cover things like routing protocols or FHRPs. Optionally you should be able to make Cisco's VIRL work for you.

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May 14, 2003

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sudo rm -rf posted:

I've got my CCNP Switch exam this friday. :ohdear:

I'd be curious if it is still more of a CCNP FHRP exam since the latest updates.

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May 14, 2003

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So, CCNP Switch tomorrow. I feel pretty good about vlans, vtp, stp, and the various gateway redundancy protocols. My weakest area is probably related to the various miscellaneous security features. Anyone got any last-minute advice or had a subject emphasis you weren't really expecting?

I had a couple VLAN ACL questions I needed to address but that's about all I can remember. I took the test some years ago.. I might have posted a trip report so I'm going to go check my post history.

edit:

No trip report :(

me posted:

CCNP Switch down.. Never have to take another test with wireless on it again for as long as I live!

Studied with this: "Implementing Cisco IP Switched Networks (SWITCH) Foundation Learning Guide: Foundation learning for SWITCH 642-813 (Foundation Learning Guides)"

1000101
May 14, 2003

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Which book did you use? Are VLAN ACLs on the new blueprint even? (these will be different from your typical access-lists)

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May 14, 2003

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Retook 300-115. Passed with a 965/1000.

Excellent!

You have ROUTE and TSHOOT left?

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May 14, 2003

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sudo rm -rf posted:

Yep. It's going to more difficult because of how little routing I do at work. Giving myself about 2-3 months to study, shooting for taking ROUTE sometime in June.

e: Even jumping back into traditional IOS was annoying after using nothing but NX-OS for over a year.

Routing protocols themselves aren't too difficult but certainly expect some redistribution stuff. It touches a lot on that.

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May 14, 2003

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NippleFloss posted:

What a weird statement to make without following up in any way on why you think this.

Anyway, there are no vendor neutral networking certs that are worth a poo poo beyond network+, which is very basic, and getting a non-vendor neutral cert from a vendor that has a fraction of the market share that Cisco does doesn't make a lot of sense either. The CCNA is a fine general purpose networking cert. The CCNA DC networking test is also fine for general purpose stuff and not really stuffed with a lot of Cisco-ese. The second CCNA DC test that covers UCS and the Cisco product portfolio is much less generally useful though.

I guess if you're looking at the 5548UP with an l3 daughter card it's a pretty big steaming pile compared to an Arista or Juniper box.

The 5600 series is pretty solid and supports unified port/FCoE though and FEX is pretty awesome in a data center. I'm really not sure exactly what else is lovely between a Nexus and competitors though except maybe cost?

That said, Cisco gets pretty aggressive on the 9k series (but no FC forwarding.)

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May 14, 2003

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BaseballPCHiker posted:

I just got an email from CompTIA. Apparently it's not enough to have passed the CCNA since I've gotten my Network+. They also require a $147 3 year renewal fee! What a crock of poo poo. I dont even think it's worth getting reimbursed by my employer for. Any negative consequences if I let it lapse? I mean I could still list it on my resume if need be right?

If you're already employed in networking you will probably never care about the network+ ever again. If you've already got your CCNA then you will probably never care about the network+ again.

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Race Realists posted:

these CCNA/P Data Center certs seem intriguing to me

anyone here know someone whos taken it or has it?

The CCNP Data Center will cover a lot of UCS, a lot of Nexus and a small amount of storage (MDS switching.) The exams for them are also partner specialist exams and I don't think there are any simlets on any of the tests.

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May 14, 2003

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CheeseSpawn posted:

Anyone have ine access pro pass? I'm on the fence on getting it for a few months.

It seems like ine is trying to sell the pass over buying individual courses and material or am I reading the benefits incorrectly?

AAP is a subscription so they're probably motivated to get you onboard. That said I was pretty happy with mine. Depending on the track the videos are pretty informative.

What you looking at studying?

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May 14, 2003

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Japanese Dating Sim posted:

I have a 10 year goal to get CCIE certified. I'm not even CCNA yet. :sigh:

Take it step by step. Start with CCNA (which can be taken in two parts), work your way up through each of the CCNPs. Start with SWITCH, then ROUTE, then work into TSHOOT. Don't use dumps, try to understand the material. For the CCNP I recommend the foundation learning guides for each of the tests as a starting point.

Your jobs should start getting progressively more advanced as you go taking on more responsibility. If you can get on at a VAR they'll give you exposure to a lot of different environments where you'll start seeing more esoteric features/designs being deployed. If you do a good job they'll probably even invest in training you and paying for your lab since a CCIE in any discipline addresses partner requirements which means more margin on deals for the partner. Most VARs will have no trouble covering the cost for a couple of attempts (you'll likely fail your first so don't be discouraged) but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the befit. Odds are it will get paid for out of MDF anyway.

10 years is a completely reasonable timeframe.

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Race Realists posted:

Has anyone ever tried the CCDA/DP exams?

are they just as expensive as the CCIE exams? Do you have to travel?

please say no

CC*A/CC*P are typically proctored exams you take in the same testing center you'd take your entry level exams. It's the expert level exams that make you travel.

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May 14, 2003

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Alain Post posted:

ROUTE is going to kick my rear end, man. Studying when you actually have a job is so much harder :smith:

Spend some time in GNS3 or optionally Cisco VIRL (worth the money to me.) http://virl.cisco.com/getvirl/

One advantage to VIRL is you don't have to go scouring the internet for IOS images.

In addition to routing protocol fundamentals you're going to want to be pretty solid at route redistribution.

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May 14, 2003

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crunk dork posted:

Is VIRL pretty good to study for the 210-260? Education license 1/yr is only $80

I use it all the time to validate various things before I do them. It's a tool you'll probably use a lot long after you pass any tests. If it includes the devices used in that exam then yes, worthy investment.

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May 14, 2003

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ChubbyThePhat posted:

It would be 0.0.0.1 because it only has to match the last bit in the address.

Conversely if you started at 10.1.0.0, a mask of 0.0.0.1 would only match even addresses.


Of course you would never use it, but it is technically something you can do with a wildcard mask.

Back in the day you used to have to do a lot of funky wildcard masks to cut down on the number of ACL entries since you only had so much TCAM space.

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Spudalicious posted:

So I've got funding for training this year and I want some input. I'm CCNA Routing/Security already, and a lot of what I do is managing our multi-site WAN, but I also have a lot of responsibilities with our virtual cluster (VMWare) and associated hardware and VMs. We are thinking of moving to a 100% VOIP phone system in the next year or two. Funding for training in 2017 and on is not guaranteed.

So the way I look at it I should at least try to get the following certs given my job responsibilities:
CCNP: Routing and Switching
CCNP: Collaboration
VCP: Datacenter
MCITP: Enterprise
RHCSA

Of these, how should I prioritize. My goal is one per year but I could do two. Given that funding for training could collapse after this year, I have a concern that I should try to get a good bootcamp for the toughest one.

This only my opinion but this worked out for me:

1. VCP
2. CCNP R+S (or collab if you're really interested in voice work)

The rest I would take in order of interest level. That makes you a pretty attractive hire for 1099 work, VARs, consulting, etc.

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May 14, 2003

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sudo rm -rf posted:

I've got CCNP - ROUTE tomorrow. wish me luck!

For me this was the hardest of the 3 tests. Mostly because it can be pretty easy to get lost in redistribution if you're not paying attention.

I took it a couple years ago, but I'm pretty sure redistribution is still going to be a thing..

The moral of this post is know redistribution, AD, etc.

1000101
May 14, 2003

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Moey posted:

Ahhh never mind, is it the Cisco Nexus 1000V I am thinking of?

Probably closer to being accurate though if ACI becomes a thing it may end up being relevant again.

1000101
May 14, 2003

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NippleFloss posted:

I don't believe ACI will ever be a thing.

Fair statement.

Better off just doing EVPN and keeping network ops mostly the same. Then optionally layer NSX on top of that if needed.

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May 14, 2003

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OhDearGodNo posted:

I'm going to start going completely in for CCNP, I plan to use GNS3 and a mix of CBT Nuggets and INE.

I'd like to have this separate from my home PC, something light but also not crazy expensive. I looked into the Surface and while its around what I'd like its a bit too pricey.

What do people here use to run labs? I really don't want to buy a stack of routers and switches.

GNS but now I just use VIRL:

http://virl.cisco.com/

Also here:
https://learninglabs.cisco.com/

might have some stuff (I think even a hosted version of VIRL)

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May 14, 2003

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Ahdinko posted:

For our CCIE's out there, what material did you use to pass (for R&S)?
I've got a meeting in two weeks to kick off my CCIE, I need to go in there with what I want in terms of costs and time. Theres alot of companies that do material but I've personally only ever used CBT Nuggets' CCNA/CCNP videos which were awesome. Can anyone vouch for any training in particular or tell me what you used to pass?

Also with VIRL and GNS and whatnot nowadays, can you train well in a virtual environment or do you still need real lab access?

If I do need the labs, I saw INE do a pretty cool deal where you get the materials and some lab hours bundled in together for a fair price

A lot of INE stuff, reading the actual documentation (it's dry but trust me its worth doing) and books on any topics I wasn't strong on. I budgeted out enough rack rental tokens with INE to cover my study ramp up and two attempts at the lab.

From a timeline perspective I'd expect to take from 12-18 months. As you get closer to the lab date you'll probably be labbing 8-12 hours a day on weekends and on weeknights 2-4. I probably started with 8 hours a week and every couple months I'd add a few more hours a week.

I'd say VIRL will probably get you most of the way there/you could start there. You'll still want to burn some rack time. INE often does pre-configured/pre-staged for CCIE lab rack rentals and they'll offer simulated labs with grading.

I also used an IPExpert lab guide which seemed to be pretty challenging as well.

Also I can't stress reading the actual documentation enough.

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Bigass Moth posted:

One of the ccies I work with said once I'm at a level of experience that the ccnp is easy I'm not far from the ccie. Do you feel that way? My focus is collaboration so it may be different from routing.

I guess its relative. I mean if you're close to being ready for CCIE R+S then good odds that the CCNP R+S is going to feel easy. There's a lot of stuff that won't be covered by the CCNP. For example I don't think it covers things like PfR, VRF, ODR, tunnels, it barely touches ipv6 and the BGP content on the CCNP is pretty elementary. I don't think it covered MPLS or DMVPN either.

The other thing is going to be the pressure of time. You're going to get a 2 hour block of troubleshooting, a new diagnostic section (which I've never done) and 5 and a half hours of config time and you half to take lunch when the group does.

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May 14, 2003

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Eletriarnation posted:

Well, every path is of course different but from knowing basically nothing about networking I needed about 4 months of being a networking lab intern and some off-hours study (mainly just reading the Cisco Press and Sybex guides) to pass the CCNA with two tries. Would have been one except they still asked about Frame Relay on the version I took and I never worked with it, so I missed a lot of the details.

About a year later, most of which was spent on unrelated coursework, I went back for a second term as an intern and at the end of that with about a year's total work experience and having read the Cisco Press guides I passed the CCNP. It took a couple tries each on the Route/Switch tests and one try for TShoot, which I thought was easiest by far of the three.

Several months after I got the CCNP, graduated, and started permanent employment I tried the CCIE R&S written without any preparation and didn't really get anywhere close to passing. The material was of a similar nature to what's on the CCNP, but went into much more niche details and had at least a few questions that were somewhat subjective IMO.

That was like 4 years ago and I've since considered the CCIE SP instead due to a change in job focus and finally settled down to work on the CCIE DC due to another change in job focus. The shifting target and taking on work responsibilities in the interim certainly didn't help, but now that I've settled on the DC I'm still struggling with studying for the written because there's not really a good feedback mechanism on how much you know except taking the test again. With the CCIE R&S at least you have an official guide for the written exam to use as a reference, but with DC and SP you just get a reading list and a topic list.

I'm actually hopeful that the lab will be more straightforward to study for once I can pass the written, since even if there's serious time pressure to get things finished it seems more structured and there are a lot of materials out there for lab study. Most of the written materials seem to be either "read a whole book about FC and hope you remember the specific details we ask about" or something that breaks the NDA/other rules.

Part of what's behind the recommendation to have years of experience is that it's just not likely that you will recall all the information you need unless you have worked with it and put it to tangible use for some time. This is doubly true in the lab exam and it's also part of my problem with the DC since I don't have much experience with the SAN technologies.

I did the DC lab exam and yeah studying for it meant a lot of reading of product documentation. The written itself was kind of horrible, not so much in difficulty but in just outright memorization of stupid details like how many of what DIMMs fit in a particular C series model. Of course then the next question might be about how fabricpath behaves given a set of specific conditions. All in all the CCIE DC written is a pretty disjointed exam.

I did the DC because it touched on everything I was living with day to day. UCS, FCP, iSCSI, and even FabricPath were all things I had to deal with on a day to day basis. I was actually fortunate enough to train on UCS back when it was still called "California" and I spent 18 months at a customer site that was UCS/Nexus and MDS.

I can tell you now that those years of experience help tremendously (gently caress you Cisco for making an oversubscribed fibre channel switch) because the lab exam itself is like 10-12 hours worth of work with a lot of exercises that are dependent on previous exercises. You'll have nice big tasks that are worth say 6-8 points but then you might have a task worth 2 points (you need 80 to pass) and if you gently caress it up then you won't be able to make 4 more tasks down the road worth 2 points each work.

If you're gunning for the lab I'd say the IPExpert workbooks are probably better overall than INEs (for the DC at least) but you'll end up renting racks from INE to fill in the gaps.

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Eletriarnation posted:

That's good to know, I'll definitely look into it. Were there any materials in particular that you found valuable when studying for the written test, or was that mostly gleaned from real world experience?

Taking this tomorrow to renew my certification. Will come back with a trip report if my notes are worth a poo poo!

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Eletriarnation posted:

That's good to know, I'll definitely look into it. Were there any materials in particular that you found valuable when studying for the written test, or was that mostly gleaned from real world experience?

My old study materials were largely worthless. They've revamped the test pretty significantly even on the 1.0 blueprint so I'm going to have to take it again sometime in the next 4 weeks. Previously there were a lot of NXOS internals and a couple basic ACE questions. Now it's covering more fabricpath, more FCIP, more iSCSI, more UCS and oddly more ACE.

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crunk dork posted:

CCNP lab practice suggestions? Something that I could throw on my laptop would be top notch, been looking at Boson NetSim for CCNP but wasn't sure if anyone else had a suggestion.

Cisco VIRL is a solid choice. I run it on my macbook pro without issue.

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I'm pretty sure his viewership just spiked from that getting pasted in here. The real question is, when you hear that voice in a job interview can you stop yourself from laughing?

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Fudge posted:

No, let me clarify: if all you have is an A+, I'm throwing it out. I'd value a six month contract doing nothing but password resets at a call center over an A+ at this point. These are entry level positions - were getting people with just A+'s and they aren't worth anything.

If its entry level then just hire someone (A+ or otherwise) with a reasonable personality thats willing to learn. The only people who are going to know how to do the job you've probably already fired or they've been promoted. Unless you're paying better than market rate I wouldn't expect anyone to make lateral moves to your open position that already knows everything you're looking for.

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Ahdinko posted:

To CCIE's or someone who has passed something with similar study requirements:

What the hell did you do to remember all of this? I'm reaching the point where im 150 or so hours in, and the stuff that happened in hours 1-50 has almost fell out of my brain. I did a review test on the stuff I learnt at the start and missed half the questions.
So far I've been doing INE video training, stopping the video every now and then to take some brief notes in word on what I think were key points and then resuming. I can't imagine how screwed my brain will be at 600 hours in.

Also can anyone recommend some decent practice test engines or material for the CCIE R&S written? The review questions in the INE stuff are good, but once you've done them once then you know the answer so I'm struggling to measure when I'm actually ready.

Study, understand and apply it on a regular basis. I would consider going through some of INE's lab materials to help cement it in there and even do some science experiments on your own. I believe they offer some VIRL topologies on their github. If your day job involves networking start thinking of problems on a deeper level and maybe try to determine your network's behavior based on the configuration then go validate it with appropriate 'show' commands.

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Japanese Dating Sim posted:

Is there a vendor-neutral storage certification? I know that sounds boring as gently caress and probably is, but I feel like knowledge of storage is a big black hole in my skillset. I don't necessarily want to get certified in something but I would like to have a structured study plan.

I found the SNIA SCSP - looks like CompTIA retired their Storage+ thing without much fanfare.

I dunno if I'd invest time/effort into a storage-centric certification or training. The storage industry is changing pretty significantly and I fall back on approximately 0 of my previous knowledge. Now-a-days you can buy all flash storage for pretty cheap and there are plenty of reliable vendors out there that are also stupidly easy to manage.

Some exceptions to this might be something like Ceph.

What sorts of storage are you encountering in your job?

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