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crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
If I plan on working in security eventually, and will receive my net+ and sec+ within the next three to four months or so, is it worth going for the a+ too? I ask because WGU covers all of the voucher costs with tuition, but I transferred in with about half of my program already done. A previous class I took at community college satisfied the need for the course at WGU that grants you the voucher for the a+. I'm trying to land something entry level in IT and haven't had any luck so far, will net+ and sec+ help me in that respect? Obviously a degree is way more valuable than a certification, but when it comes to landing a first job with no previous work experience in IT I'm not sure what is more valuable.

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crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

If it's free, might as well get the certification, it's probably a keyword that HR looks for on entry level positions. I don't think it'd be worth paying full price though unless you were seeing lots of positions that demanded an A+ in order to be considered.

It's not free because the course requirement is already met by a previous class at a different school, apparently. :smith: I really don't want to pay out of pocket but it seems necessary for a lot of entry level spots that I've seen, and asked about by several recruiters.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Sub Rosa posted:

I thought at WGU you pay by the semester, not the course, and also that you can immediately pass a given course by passing the cert? So presuming you can pass A+ cold wouldn't it be no additional cost to you to get the cert compared to having the requirement waived?

That's what I thought but because I've already "passed" the class they can't issue me the voucher to cover the exam fees. Does that make sense?

e: that was weird not sure what happened with the triple quote!

crunk dork fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Oct 7, 2014

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Is the CIW 1D0-520 as easy as practice materials suggest?

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

PneumonicBook posted:

Most CIW exams are pretty easy, I don't remember having any issues with that one when I took it.

Right on, thanks!

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
If I'm hitting like 75-80% repeatedly on my Net+ practice exam I should have a pretty okay time passing the actual test itself, right? :sweatdrop: I feel pretty comfortable with most of the concepts themselves, the only real trouble I seem to have is memorizing IP classes, and the private/public ranges.

e: 720 on a scale of 100-900 is 80% or did I gently caress that up?

crunk dork fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Nov 18, 2014

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

PneumonicBook posted:

Got my Sec+ yesterday.

Just want to echo the OP; I read the book suggested and studied the port chart, although I also read a Sybex Sec+ book I felt the one mentioned in the OP was much better. I've got three years as a (small) network admin so that probably helped, but that book is fantastic. Moving on to Net+, need to knock that out in about four weeks. I've got the Michael Meyers Net+ book and WGU has the Sybex ebook so I should be set.

I'm taking my net+ tomorrow and will be starting to study for my sec+ after that, I'm also at WGU and LabSim helped me a ton. The worst part is watching these dorks ramble on for 20 minutes at a time without nodding off at least once in the middle of it.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

PneumonicBook posted:

The blonde guy's not terrible, the other guy though...

Good luck, if it goes well I'll be sure to use more of the labsim stuff for net+.
Oh good god you're not kidding, he reminds me of Droopy Dog from Looney Tunes. What helped me most was the notes you can print out and the lesson review quizzes, the practice and domain exams are very helpful too. Since you've been working in IT you probably already know 3/4 if not all the stuff they are going to cover.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Just passed my Net+ with a 746 :sweatdrop: I feel kind of ashamed for not doing better but at least I got it out of the way. Onto Sec+ now, I'm hoping the objectives aren't as broad so it's a little easier to focus my attention.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Anyone know off the top of their head how long it takes CompTIA to post certifications to your account? I'm not seeing much about it on their website beside show to order new paper certificates.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Race Realists posted:

Asked this before and I never got an answer. What do you guys do to keep your certs from expiring?

It probably depends on the issuing body. CompTIA has a continuing education program and as far as I understand, you only have to keep your most advanced cert current. If you have A+, Net+, and Sec+ you only have to keep up on your Sec+. I could be completely wrong too though, I'm new to this stuff myself!

http://certification.comptia.org/stayCertified.aspx

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Will TestOut's LabSim and the Sybex book for Sec+ be enough for me to pass if I've never worked in InfoSec? I scraped by on my N+ using the LabSim solely, but since then I've read that Sec+ is much more in depth. I'm trying to tap every resource available to make sure I pass on my first attempt.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

PneumonicBook posted:

Seriously, just use the book in the op. I read the sybex book too and it's okay, but the one in the op is better. I didn't use the labsim stuff at all.

:sweatdrop: I should've asked before ordering the Sybex book probably. LabSim is supplied through WGU and sometimes the labs and quizzes help me I guess but they go on forever about mundane bullshit in the videos. Would you be willing to sell your copy of the book in the OP?

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

PneumonicBook posted:

I've actually been using the wgu provided stuff less and less for the IT classes because yea the labsim guys go all over the place. I bought the book on my kindle so I can't sell it to you unfortunately. Are you planning on testing before January? If not you'll need the book for 401, although the wgu coursework includes both.

No, I just started studying, so I was shooting for the end of January for my test date. I know they supply a digital copy of the Sybex but I seem to focus more and retain more knowledge when I study from an actual book. The temptation of opening another tab to browse the forums or Facebook or whatever always distracts me.

If I can skip the 20 hours of videos in LabSim and just do the simulations and quizzes that would be great and save me a ton of time, I might try that.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

skooma512 posted:

I just passed the Security+! :slick:

Congrats! Did you find it difficult?

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
On the topic of Sec+ how in depth are the questions about different types of encryption? Is it just knowing the difference between symmetric and asymmetric or should I be trying to learn and memorize info about each individual system/algorithm?

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

skooma512 posted:

There's about a dozen on the exam that's expiring today (301), though it's not like they make new ones frequently.


I would go ahead and memorize the types of encryption, how they're used, and the core concepts like (a)symmetric encryption, PKI etc.
Well I'm studying for the 401, but the guys in LabSim go way out on a limb compared to the Sybex book.

Dumb question, do you mean there are a dozen questions about encryption or a dozen encryption methods on the exam?

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

skooma512 posted:

Encryption methods, at least in the 301 book. RC4, PGP, SSL, AES, DES, 3DES blah blah blah.

Ah crap, time to buckle down then.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

This is kind of the opposite of what I would be thinking, were I you?

That's what I was thinking too. 85% is pretty drat good isn't it?

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Elucidarius posted:

I thought 83% was passing? That's generally 1 or 2 questions less than what I've been scoring so I'm nervous I'll miss them because I am a poor test taker.

It's weighted, not all questions are worth the same amount and some aren't scored at all. What are you using for practice exams? I'm using the ones provided with LabSim and I've been hitting 80-85, I feel pretty confident about it.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Tab8715 posted:

Where are you guys find these practice exams? I assume they aren't free :(

Mine are included in TestOut's LabSim. I use the review questions in the Sybex book too.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
It might just be because I started Sec+ almost immediately after getting Net+ but I feel like there is a good amount of overlap on some of the topics covered.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
I take my Sec+ in about three and a half hours, I hope I don't get any dumb Linux CLI questions. I got a couple on a practice test last night and it threw me for a loop. :eng99:

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Ozu posted:

You wont. You're more likely to get "Choose which one of these is hardware-based encryption". You'll pass.

Well in that case I've probably over studied like hell which is good. I'm ready to forget all this inane BS as soon as I pass. Good to know that a Class C fire extinguisher using CO2 or Halon is ideal for electrical fires. :jerkbag:

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Passed with an 800 :yotj:

Does anyone else feel like they are bombing the test the entire time theyre taking it? I've been like that for every exam I've taken so far.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Bigass Moth posted:

That's a self confidence issue brother. :smith:

I'll never be good enough :negative:


rock2much posted:

Yup! Also congrats!
I'm worried about the icnd-1 because I'm so used to being able to check over my work and looking at old questions helped a lot with S+ and N+

Thanks. Is there no option to flag questions for review on the CCNA?

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Is the CIW database design specialist as dumb and easy as the Web design specialist exam?

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Elucidarius posted:

So, I'm taking the Security+ tomorrow and am really nervous. I'm a generally poor test taker to begin with.

Anyone have any last minute study suggestions? I've gone through 2 different books, made a ton of flash cards that I've memorized, and watched a couple of the cbt nugget videos. Am I preparing for the worst when it really won't be all that bad? I have zero clue what to expect.

I'm basically retarded and passed with an 800 less than a week ago, it's not as hard as you think. Make sure you read the questions very carefully as there are a few gotchas with the wording that I encountered. Be certain you know your port numbers and like the guy above me said know the dumbass terms they invented for spam and fishing and you'll be cool man. It's a lot of common sense stuff so don't overthink it.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Maybe it's just because it was the first exam I took but I thought Net+ was much more in depth and overall harder than Sec+. If you've passed Net+ with a decent margin then security should be a cakewalk I think.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Elucidarius posted:

Woo, passed the Security+ with a 787. Not as high as I'd hoped but given that I have no professional experience or previous certificates, I'm pretty happy.

Nice! It's definitely a confidence booster.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

Do you guys think there's ever a risk of getting too many certifications? Assuming that someone's not using test dumps and such.

Just wondering since my job is willing to pay for basically everything and I'm starting to take full advantage of it... just don't want to go overboard and make my resume look odd for my experience level.

You can never learn too much I would say, and you don't necessarily have to list every last cert you've earned, you know?

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Just watched the first CBT nugget video for CCNA and this guy is coked out of his mind or something

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

PneumonicBook posted:

It's loving amazing. Sooooo much better than the labsim guys.

I watched a 30 minute video and it wasn't god awful! At the end I thought this exact same thing :hfive:

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Do you think it's worth investing the money to set up a physical lab or should I just go with the simulations?

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
That's enough convincing for me to just find the stuff for cheap on eBay, thanks!

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Sheep posted:

Do some shopping around (craigslist especially). Some dude('s wife) sold me a new in box 2960X-24PS-L for $120 (retails for 1900) just to get it out of their garage which was A-OK with me.

Now I can authentically recreate the audio from the flight deck scenes from Top Gun in my home office.

I'm watching a 2950 on eBay that's sitting at $45 shipped, kind of on a tight budget so I think I'll grab it. I see a 2620 router for $40 shipped too. I understand these are both old but the reviews say they used them for labs and it's what CBT course suggests too, so I guess that's a pretty good deal yeah? :shrug:

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

PneumonicBook posted:

I'll second the book recommendations. Meyers has a net+ book that's pretty good also.

I'm heading into my last week and a half studying for ICND1, I've gone through all of the CBTnuggets, have subnetting down pretty well, and read Lammle's book, assuming I should just lab all week. I used to work on Cisco switches so I'm fairly familiar with Cisco IOS. Anything in particular I should go nuts on?

How long did you spend studying altogether? I'm like halfway through the CBT nuggets and feel like other than using IOS I haven't learned a whole lot. I ordered the Lammle book too because I suck at reading digital texts and the one supplied was horribly dry, I hope to read through it once solidly and then skim back over spots I don't feel good about

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Ahdinko posted:

What video are you on? up to about video 16 its likely just a recap or slightly more indepth N+, but videos 16-40 are where I'd say it starts to get into some of the specifics and cool stuff.

Switch port control is the video I last watched I think, so that's good to know that it starts getting more complicated soon

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Ahdinko posted:

Looks like thats video 14, so you're right on the cusp. Video 25 will probably blow your mind, VLSM took me a while to grasp properly.

Is that the poo poo where the shorthand for a subnet mask is a weird number that isn't a multiple of 8?

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crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Yeah Net+ didn't cover that in depth at all and I don't get hands on enough with networking yet to know that stuff from memory so it will be nice to learn something new

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