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Jerusalem posted:Omar, Brandon and Bailey are laying out a plan of attack for their next heist. The crude drawings in the dirt of the layout of the streets We see the police doing exactly this in S03E01, though their gang has twice as many people. A testament to Omar's efficiency.
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Fragmented posted:Jesus talk about giving a gently caress when it ain't your turn to give a gently caress. I'm sure we can handle more than one of you doing write-ups on the same episodes. Or, if y'all really get your poo poo together, combine the effort into a single super excellent write up.
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Awesome job comes along bort, Jerusalem (as usual), and 3Romeo! Nice to get some new voices in there too.comes along bort posted:Thanks, man. The hard part is balancing between having something decently lengthy and not getting too far out in the tall weeds with masturbatory over-interpretation, which is ridiculously easy to do. Don't worry about the tall weeds, go as far as you want. We're all sitting here in a thread retelling, nearly shot for shot, every episode of one of the meatiest TV series there is. Anyone scared of a few extra words is long gone.
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cletepurcel posted:I think Snoop was a bit more of a psychopath than Slim. Early in season 5, when Marlo is forced to be quiet because the cops are watching, she complains about not being able to kill people. And Slim would never have done stuff like torturing Butchie (he says so himself) or the conversation in the hardware store. Mind you that was on Marlo's orders but still. I think you're right about the orders part. Slim Charles was a very loyal soldier. If Avon ordered him to make sure Butchie felt the pain, I don't see him saying no. I think you're also right about Snoop though. She could torture someone like that without being asked.
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And it might be hard to recruit soldiers willing to do their two days if their reward is death.
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Jul 3, 2013 17:34
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Jerusalem posted:Part of it is lashing out against a subconscious realization that what they do makes no appreciable difference, part of it is believing that this violence is the only thing the dealers understand/respect, and I'm sure there is also some part of it that fulfills some need/desire to inflict violence/dominate or otherwise influence power over somebody (anybody!) else. Look at Officer Walker, I'm sure he didn't just appear in the world fully formed, and if anything seems to piss him off it's when people don't pay him the respect he thinks he is owed or act like they are in some way above him/worthier than him. All that said, there are assholes in any group. There's probably dozens of Walkers and Colicchios in the department, and there doesn't need to be so many, but you'll always get a few.
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Jul 15, 2013 05:01
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Oh poo poo, Jerusalem replied to The Wire: The Rewatch thread! ... That's not the next episode 
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Jul 22, 2013 03:18
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Jerusalem posted:Is there anything I should be doing differently in these write-ups, by the way? I had hoped that they were extensive enough/asked enough questions/raised enough points that they would generate a little more discussion on the episodes themselves, the overall themes of a particular season, contrary opinions on how particular scenes played out and what we should take from an episode etc, and that doesn't really seem to be happening. I'm a lazy gently caress who prefers to enjoy your hard work and contribute nothing in return. The write ups are great. I am starting to get that semiannual itch to rewatch, though, and I plan on doing so with your write ups in hand. Maybe I'll start necroing your old write ups and add to them as I go?
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Jul 25, 2013 00:41
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Jerusalem posted:I hadn't considered it from that point of view, but you're right - Prez was extremely naive about the depth of the problems in the school even though he'd spent years as police, including 2-3 years with inside access to the everyday world of the drug trade. Or he didn't want to believe the corner had so thoroughly invaded the schools. Willful ignorance can be just as powerful.
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Aug 19, 2013 06:18
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cletepurcel posted:I think even if Marlo hadn't been arrested he would have tried to off Michael eventually. Totally agree, but for a different reason: Michael has the potential to dethrone Marlo one day. I bet Marlo can smell that possibility on someone from a mile away. Keep your enemies closer and all that.
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Sep 2, 2013 08:24
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comes along bort posted:The one thing that was really unrealistic is Prez's class looked like it had at most about 20 desks. No way he'd have a class that small. His class has a 50% attendance rate and the school makes up for budgetary shortfalls by not replacing busted desks!
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Oct 28, 2013 04:30
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ChikoDemono posted:To be fair, Carcetti doesn't murder people on a whim. Maybe not, but he sentences loads of schoolchildren to life without education. On a whim. If you want to tally murders then sure, no comparison. I wonder how close it'd be if you tallied lives ruined.
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Nov 30, 2013 13:08
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frenton posted:The first time I watched the Wire I hated season 2 so much. I was so invested in the Barksdale organization that I almost didn't want to like all the new characters. After many rewatches of the entire series it's grown on me so much that I think season 2 is actually the strongest one. I love the Sobotkas and the Greeks and dock workers and SWEET BEATRICE RUSSELL so much! I'm in the same boat, and I wonder if it has to do with familiarity. I guess it's possible to love season 2 immediately on first viewing but it seems pretty rare. I know I haven't seen much (any?) other TV about blue collar union workers, and beyond the superficial level I didn't really get how it fit in with the show until the second go round. This thread helped a lot too, explaining how it's just another side of the same coin. If, I dunno, I knew more about my grandpa as a steel guy then maybe it would've made sense right away. Whereas I've been to middle school so failing schools makes a bit more sense to me, and I've seen cop shows and drug shows on tv so my total inexperience there at least has a bit of a fallback. Season 2 sneaks up on you.
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Lutha Mahtin posted:I'm on my first trip through season 2 and I "got" how the docks storyline is showing a different facet of how systemic issues affect the working class, but it's jarring to have the show basically split in half now: one half involves characters and plots that I'm already invested in, and the other half starts out with me being apprehensive over whether it's going to be a "heh, unions are mobsters amirite" caricature. It's clearly not (and I'm only at episode, like, 5?), but it was still jarring at first. Right, I got the "white folk getting hosed too!!" angle the first time, but I shared that apprehension that the show was going off into the weeds somewhere or totally dropping all these awesome characters from season 1. That apprehension took awhile to disappear, probably until season 3, when it's made clear that the world of season 1 still exists. (It sounded less tautological in my head.)
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Jun 30, 2014 16:33
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Ainsley McTree posted:It's been said before, but it's very normal to be super confused the first time you watch the show until around 4 or 5 episodes in. The show doesn't really make any effort to explain what it's talking about to you, you have to sort of pick it up through context, and it can take a few episodes before it clicks. Stick with it! Yep, it took me a few tries to actually get into the show. I'd get an episode or two in and realize I had no idea who anybody was. Probably didn't help that I would start watching it in bed as I was falling asleep. Totally worth it though.
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Jul 16, 2014 23:05
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I love how when the streets are all abuzz with the (for once, true) rumour of Omar's death, the journalist at the newspaper doesn't even give a second glance at his name. The biggest, most fearsome/mythologized name in one world isn't even recognizable in the other.
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Jul 28, 2014 17:42
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drunken officeparty posted:This plotline about them moving everyone to a vacant street to openly sell drugs is kind of testing my limits on believability. To be fair, exactly nobody thinks it's a good or workable idea except for the one guy with just enough power to get it going.
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Jul 28, 2014 19:02
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the_american_dream posted:I can stretch my believability to literally everything but Brother Mouzone but he's still a great written character without the superhuman stuff Sometimes I see Mouzone as an embodiment of "out-of-town gangsters". Seemingly from nowhere a bunch of local boys get got, and the rumours start going around that some scary hired guns have arrived for a brief stay. It's a bit of literary shorthand to just make it one guy instead of a larger crew. This obviously falls apart when Chris and Snoop go dropping the New York (?) soldiers when they get trivia questions wrong. Really I'm just making excuses, but I'm at peace with it.
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Jul 28, 2014 20:22
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Lester's a manipulative dick, he just gets away with it most of the time by being right. Even the time when his methods are wrong, faking the serial killer, I remember he goes all out to avoid actually touching anything with his own hands. He gets McNutty to do the dirty work, and merely enables it. It's been awhile since my last rewatch (about due for one actually) but that's how I remember it.
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Jul 30, 2014 22:25
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RichardDunn posted:I do have a s2 question that I somehow missed. What is with Valchek's big hard-on for catching Frank? The only thing I can remember is the stained glass church window. That would be hilariously ridiculous if all the poo poo that happened in S2 was because Frank got a better window than Valcheck. lol I read that scene as them having some vague grudge against one another. Probably from some past, similarly small-time bullshit. I forget, does Valchek recognize the name Sobotka when he hears it? Or does he have to look him up. Either way I don't think there's any real evidence of a longstanding grudge from the text of the show. It could also be some beef Valchek has with longshoremen in general, maybe from some past case, and he decides to take it out on the current union head.
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Aug 6, 2014 20:22
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Rile the thread by proclaiming season 5 as your favourite. Do it.
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Aug 7, 2014 00:07
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ChikoDemono posted:It seems to me more like Slim, Wee-Bay, Chris all knew what they were doing was some evil poo poo and accepted it as a job. They are killers and they make no qualms about it. This rings true to me. To put it another way: can you see Snoop getting out of the game? I can see the others retiring (not necessarily by choice, mind you), but Snoop just seems like she's a permanent fixture. Even Marlo gets out of the game.
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Aug 8, 2014 00:38
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Hahaha I went in the opposite direction but yep. He really doesn't seem to have any characteristics aside from being the harbinger of poo poo. If you compare him to, I guess Rawls is his Homicide Department equivalent? it's season-five-problems.txt right there.
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No secret about it, it's just not readily apparent the first time around.
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Nov 20, 2014 20:51
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This thread is a testament to preferring quality over fast turnaround. No rush, I'll excitedly read it when it's ready!
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I just finished reading Homicide for the first time and it’s basically a season of The Wire (in every positive sense that comparison can convey). Absolutely go read it if you haven’t.
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Mar 17, 2018 13:26
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Did the thread ever talk about Nicko's pi tattoo on his neck? It looks pretty fresh in one of the later episodes of season 2 and it’s prominent in some of the last shots of the season finale. No idea what the significance is but it can’t be a coincidence that he’s becoming buddies with "the "Greeks"" and gets a Greek letter tat?
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Mar 22, 2018 12:39
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Valchek is a strangely fascinating character. He’s an rear end in a top hat but he’s kinda our rear end in a top hat, you know? I can’t quite put my finger on it, but he’s making me laugh a ton on this rewatch. Unfortunately he doesn’t get a Rawlsian moment of total police competence so I can’t tell if he’s genuinely good at his job.
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Apr 4, 2018 03:17
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Ainsley McTree posted:There's a beautiful bit of background work in the first episode of season 2: Ahaha love it. Goes with homicide's dedication to hunt-and-peck.
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Apr 4, 2018 03:43
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I was on season five of my rewatch when saying earlier that I enjoy the cop toadies like Valchek. The newspaper toadies are just completely unlikeable and unenjoyable in comparison.
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Apr 21, 2018 00:44
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And for all I know it’s an entirely accurate rendition of life at the Baltimore Sun city desk in 200X. Doesn’t make it fun to watch.
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Apr 21, 2018 03:41
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I think you mean "has a depo"
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Feb 14, 2019 13:35
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algebra testes posted:Can I be honest? I dont understand how David "the System is broken" Simon isnt all for the system is broken candidate. My guess is he doesn't see any of the candidates as outside the system, so he picked one who he thought most likely to win and/or do something useful? While pledging to support another candidate if they get the nomination? Fucknuckle. Dumb Lowtax posted:And I guess it's sealioning now if anyone wants to have a conversation at all after someone publicly declares for a presidential candidate, on open discussion forum in a thread they started. Especially if how they did it is wildly inconsistent and off-tone for them, in a way that their fans will have loads of questions about. Nobody would interpret your reply as interest in having a conversation. You came in hot and got burnt. No big deal, though "badge of honor" is a stretch.
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Feb 20, 2020 15:25
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eleven extra elephants posted:Completely forgot about this scene but upon rewatch it absolutely slayed me This and when they all run into each other at the movies. Perfect "morning Ralph" "morning Sam" scenes.
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Jerusalem posted:Good point, it IS time for a full rewatch! Was thinking the same thing. What are the odds!
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Apr 2, 2020 06:21
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Levy’s a non-sleazy non-lawyer in one episode of Veronica Mars!
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Apr 13, 2020 00:57
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empty baggie posted:Michael Kostroff (Maury Levy) is also currently in the HBO show “The Plot Against America”. Being the brother of the producer of every David Simon show probably didn't hurt.
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Always forget how much fun some of these characters are. Valchek is such a joy. Also I like how the first time we see Royce, he's pushing a giant plunger to blow up the towers, and the camera makes a point of catching the actual workers squatting nearby who push the actual button.
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Eau de MacGowan posted:rewatching in 16:9 and it feels weird Pagers! In HD! They did a surprisingly good job though, I stopped thinking about it real quick.
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