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McNerd
Aug 28, 2007

awesmoe posted:

Have you ever worked in a large company before? It's like that, but more so. Unhealthy office politics, people stabbing other people in the back to get ahead, people getting very very upset when someone screws them, petty vindictiveness, etc.

This. Imagine how mad your boss would get if you didn't like his instructions, so you went to tell his boss what a lovely job he's doing. Even in relatively healthy organizations this is frowned upon to a certain extent. If your boss is even remotely responsible and competent, you're supposed to respect his authority enough to not constantly second-guess and undermine him: there's not much point in "authority" if you get bypassed every time your "subordinates" disagree. But at least in healthy organizations, if your boss did something seriously unethical or unprofessional, this would be a rare and extreme circumstance that justified an extreme reaction. In the Baltimore police dept., not so much.

Now multiply that by, you didn't just talk to his boss, you went and talked to a client or a journalist or some other outsider, who's now making a big stink on a larger scale. Even worse.

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McNerd
Aug 28, 2007

thathonkey posted:

PS. To those saying they have trouble understanding the dialogue, i really recommend turning on closed captioning.
This is the way to go. But don't trust it 100%, at least not if you're watching on Amazon; their captions are pretty atrocious.

McNerd
Aug 28, 2007
One of my favorite scenes is when Daniels does his Lester impression to tease Pearlman.

thathonkey posted:

Yeah I have noticed that about other shows on Amazon. Hulu is especially bad too (and usually out of sync as an insult to injury).

HBO Go has the best all around.
I've heard the DVDs are good too, unsurprisingly.

Strange that this is even an issue. Don't they get the rights to HBO's captions along with the rest? It sure seems like a big waste of money to have someone go back through and re-transcribe the whole show. I can understand redoing it for the DVDs if they wanted to improve on the original, especially for a show like this where the language is tricky to get right; but if you're just going to mess it up, why bother?

McNerd
Aug 28, 2007
Amazon has it now, don't know about Europe though.

McNerd
Aug 28, 2007

Basebf555 posted:

In a way its sadder than that( or not I guess, depending on how you want to look at it). Cutty didn't even use willpower or take advantage of luck to get out of the Game, he tries to pretty much pick right up where he left off. Its only when he is about to kill someone and physically can't pull the trigger that he realizes his old life just isn't an option anymore.

This isn't quite fair. He tries to go honest but he's intimidated by the prospect of a long life of unmitigated backbreaking toil, which it's hard to blame him for. Before that, he gets a package as a gift from Avon and tries to sell it; while of course I'm not going to defend him for wholesaling drugs, it's a far cry from picking up his life as a hit man.

Also, didn't they explain that when Cutty was arrested, he killed someone and then just waited there for the police to show up? The people telling the story frame it as proof that he's some sort of fearless badass, and I'm sure he and his friends encouraged that interpretation of events, but it sounds to me like he "broke" way back when he was a kid. That could even have been the first time he killed someone (remembering that the streets were a little less fierce back then).

McNerd
Aug 28, 2007

LordPants posted:

But seriously, him being a tease about the railway in the commentary is pretty great.

Anybody got the goods on the railroad track thing? I refuse to take "an explanation would ruin it" for an answer.

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McNerd
Aug 28, 2007

grading essays nude posted:

Every time I see that episode I'm not sure whether they modified the Joe character a bit in between season 1 and 2. I mean yeah, keeping his ringer on the bench so he can up the bet with Avon at halftime is classic Joe but being so ruthlessly opportunistic in agreeing to Avon's murder - just for a chance at taking the West Side - doesn't really seem like the same character we see later. It's one of my favorite episodes in season 1 regardless just because of Avon insulting him for dressing like "Pat loving Riley".

Prop Joe's as ruthless as any other Baltimore druglord. He had a head for business, and he had the sense to see that the co-op was good for business, but before then he couldn't have imagined a wholly nonviolent approach to dealing drugs any more than anyone else.

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