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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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I enjoy Narcos but it's really, really pulpy - not really comparable to The Wire, they're very different things.

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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Groovelord Neato posted:

i enjoy narcos but it's the game of thrones version of the wire.

That's a really good way of describing it, I'm stealing that.

God drat The Wire is so good. Except the serial killer plot

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Kemper Boyd posted:

Mainly that he's far too centrist for 2018. He's the guy who's telling you today Carcetti is the only realistic option.

For a man whose best known work is literally about how the system is fundamentally, irredeemably broken, that is extremely disappointing to hear.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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I can't think of a single po-lice in The Wire who isn't hosed up in one way or another.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Orange Devil posted:

And the only thing either of them can think when reflecting on their long downward spiral is "the gently caress did I do?".

Last night I watched the episode where McNulty drinks 14 shots and winds up at Rhonda's and she asks him what they are together and he blows her off and seems genuinely confused why she's asking and I winced hard, because I've been that arsehole more than once in my life

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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That's a Snoop level murder

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Re-watching with my gf (for me, anyway, her first time) and got up to season 5.

Here are my thoughts on rewatch:

1) Bug in his Batman mask is the most unbearably adorable thing ever
2) Gus is so smart and clever and wise and funny and cool. I wish I was just like him

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Bubs does some bad stuff at points but I think one of the high points of The Wire is that it portrays a drug addict as one of the vanishingly few people in the whole show who're actually thoroughly decent

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Ginette Reno posted:

He does also say rest in peace or something in Polish after he learns that Frank died.

He's a piece of poo poo but as with pretty much every character on the Wire he's not totally irredeemable.

I dunno, I reckon Marlo is pretty irredeemable. I can't remember him doing anything genuinely good or decent.

EDIT - I get that's why you put 'pretty much', though

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Eat This Glob posted:

Learning that john c reilly auditioned to play mcnulty

:psyduck:

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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General Battuta posted:

It's not as good as Sopranos.

It's so much better you can't even compare the two :smug:

e: Sopranos is a great show about a guy's psychology, with great characters stuck in an endless cycle of keeping each other lovely. The Wire is an exploration of an entire city and the collapse of America. They're both great TV but the Wire is just something else.

de verdad

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Vichan posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWmryAVUoL8

There's always the musical. (Spoilers)

How have I not seen this til now?!

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Early Sopranos is pretty much the prototype of 'premium' TV and definitely feels/is a bit dated. The really strong stuff comes later. It is really good, but yeah, for my money The Wire beats it hands down.

General consensus is that The Sopranos is a character piece while The Wire is a more synoptic essay on capitalism and its decay.

Edit oh also The Sopranos is very, very funny. It's funnier than a lot of comedies, frankly

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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th3t00t posted:

Just finished my 4th re-watch and I've got to say season 5 didn't feel quite as bad as it has previously. I think Hampsterdam was a way more unrealistic storyline than the Red Ribbon serial killer.

Unrealistic, you say?

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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werdnam posted:

Just got to season 5 on my first watch. After episode 2 , all I can say is, what the gently caress, Jimmy?

I really enjoyed McNulty's arc up to this season and was happy to see him settle down with Beadie. I even thought he'd learned something and be able to keep his poo poo together in major crimes. No, now he's loving it all up again. I don't think I've ever been so angry at a TV character.

People like that rarely change, and when they refuse to even recognise they're loving up and try and fix their behaviour 'rarely' turns to 'never'. It's sad but true, and I was impressed by The Wire getting it right

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Orange Devil posted:

Serious question though, how does one become a person like that in the first place?

Childhood trauma usually

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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God, that's awful :(

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Jerusalem posted:

But man, being reminded that Michael K. Williams is dead is a gutpunch all over again :smith:

I honestly think I've never been hit by a celebrity death harder

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Those strippers absolutely own

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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The Greek is a bigger cog in the Drug War Machine but he is almost certainly as replaceable as anyone else; so long as prohibition exists, the machine will keep grinding away interminably and the violence will continue. I'm sure there'd be plenty of cut throat gangster capitalists ready to pounce on his market at the drop of a hat.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Aces High posted:

Yet every time a cop beats somebody they get put on paid leave pending investigation, or they get back pay if their suspension is reversed, or they don't see any consequences period. All that and the majority of the time when they ask for a budget increase from a municipality, they go the mafia route and smash windows to get their "protection money". Where did this even start and how do you switch this around so that people that actually DO serve the public interest actually get the support and resources they need?

Every empire needs its janissaries or its praetorians

And they're usually destroyed by them too

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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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What the gently caress

That loving sucks :smith:

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