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I enjoy Narcos but it's really, really pulpy - not really comparable to The Wire, they're very different things.
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Groovelord Neato posted:i enjoy narcos but it's the game of thrones version of the wire. That's a really good way of describing it, I'm stealing that. God drat The Wire is so good. Except the serial killer plot
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Kemper Boyd posted:Mainly that he's far too centrist for 2018. He's the guy who's telling you today Carcetti is the only realistic option. For a man whose best known work is literally about how the system is fundamentally, irredeemably broken, that is extremely disappointing to hear.
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I can't think of a single po-lice in The Wire who isn't hosed up in one way or another.
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Orange Devil posted:And the only thing either of them can think when reflecting on their long downward spiral is "the gently caress did I do?". Last night I watched the episode where McNulty drinks 14 shots and winds up at Rhonda's and she asks him what they are together and he blows her off and seems genuinely confused why she's asking and I winced hard, because I've been that arsehole more than once in my life
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banned from Starbucks posted:Holy poo poo lol That's a Snoop level murder
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Re-watching with my gf (for me, anyway, her first time) and got up to season 5. Here are my thoughts on rewatch: 1) Bug in his Batman mask is the most unbearably adorable thing ever 2) Gus is so smart and clever and wise and funny and cool. I wish I was just like him
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Aug 31, 2019 21:24
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Bubs does some bad stuff at points but I think one of the high points of The Wire is that it portrays a drug addict as one of the vanishingly few people in the whole show who're actually thoroughly decent
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Ginette Reno posted:He does also say rest in peace or something in Polish after he learns that Frank died. I dunno, I reckon Marlo is pretty irredeemable. I can't remember him doing anything genuinely good or decent. EDIT - I get that's why you put 'pretty much', though
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Eat This Glob posted:Learning that john c reilly auditioned to play mcnulty 
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General Battuta posted:It's not as good as Sopranos. de verdad
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Vichan posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWmryAVUoL8 How have I not seen this til now?!
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Early Sopranos is pretty much the prototype of 'premium' TV and definitely feels/is a bit dated. The really strong stuff comes later. It is really good, but yeah, for my money The Wire beats it hands down. General consensus is that The Sopranos is a character piece while The Wire is a more synoptic essay on capitalism and its decay. Edit oh also The Sopranos is very, very funny. It's funnier than a lot of comedies, frankly
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th3t00t posted:Just finished my 4th re-watch and I've got to say season 5 didn't feel quite as bad as it has previously. I think Hampsterdam was a way more unrealistic storyline than the Red Ribbon serial killer. Unrealistic, you say? 
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werdnam posted:Just got to season 5 on my first watch. After episode 2 , all I can say is, what the gently caress, Jimmy? People like that rarely change, and when they refuse to even recognise they're loving up and try and fix their behaviour 'rarely' turns to 'never'. It's sad but true, and I was impressed by The Wire getting it right
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Orange Devil posted:Serious question though, how does one become a person like that in the first place? Childhood trauma usually
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Jerusalem posted:But man, being reminded that Michael K. Williams is dead is a gutpunch all over again I honestly think I've never been hit by a celebrity death harder
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The Greek is a bigger cog in the Drug War Machine but he is almost certainly as replaceable as anyone else; so long as prohibition exists, the machine will keep grinding away interminably and the violence will continue. I'm sure there'd be plenty of cut throat gangster capitalists ready to pounce on his market at the drop of a hat.
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Aces High posted:Yet every time a cop beats somebody they get put on paid leave pending investigation, or they get back pay if their suspension is reversed, or they don't see any consequences period. All that and the majority of the time when they ask for a budget increase from a municipality, they go the mafia route and smash windows to get their "protection money". Where did this even start and how do you switch this around so that people that actually DO serve the public interest actually get the support and resources they need? Every empire needs its janissaries or its praetorians And they're usually destroyed by them too
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What the gently caress That loving sucks 
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The Wire is a landscape and The Sopranos is a portrait - neither is "better" than the other, IMO, they're just doing different things Both are far and away better than Breaking Bad, though, there's no comparison. Better Call Saul is a lot closer to their level of quality. Mad Men is about on par - or slightly better than - The Sopranos. These are my entirely subjective but also completely objectively correct rankings
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Mar 30, 2023 14:37
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Jerusalem posted:"Whatever it is in you that lets you do the thing you do.... it ain't in me anymore." "He was a man in his day" "He a man today."
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Apr 3, 2023 10:36
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BiggerBoat posted:So this is weird He said it was something an older family member (I think grandpa?) used to say, and he adopted it. It's not a The Wire thing, basically - it's an Isiah Whitlock Jr. thing
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POWELL CURES KIDS posted:Motherfucking season 4. 
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Frank Sobotka was valiantly fighting a desperate/doomed rearguard battle against the overwhelming force of capital, on behalf of his family both blood and union He may not have been perfect, but he didn't have to be to be a genuine working class hero
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Mu Zeta posted:Frank is the same as the people protecting the coal industry. Better to move on or get left behind. Easy for you to say!
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Tampa Bae posted:I've been pretty slow about watching season 3 but lol McNulty is going to fall in love with Greggs because he's a dumb self-destructive horndog isn't he weirdly, actually nah. He knows she's gay and he's cool with it
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Count Roland posted:I... also haven't seen the news? Shane MacGowan died.
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pokeyman posted:Definitely worth watching. It's not campy but they're clearly having some fun with the premise, if that makes sense? Maybe it's just that I'm not American, but if it's not quite campy it's certainly pretty cheesy. Love the concept, but I only watched the first three or four episodes before the lip quivery 'murca speeches turned me off. It's very...Ronald D Moore
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PriorMarcus posted:For me I think the order would be 2, 4, 1, 3 and 5. I agree, although I flip back and forth between 2 and 4 being the best
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Hell yeah, looks like it https://twitter.com/realchrisbauer/status/1653264475896844288?s=20
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christmas boots posted:I think Avon is also one of those people who knows who he is, where he stands, and what he wants. And that he recognizes and respects those qualities in others. Cutty knows what he wants and who he is, Stringer thinks he does but has one foot in each world because he doesn't. Yeah, this is my read too. EDIT Avon respects people who are being real. It doesn't matter if that means you're in the game or not.
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No-one identified Marlo for what he was until it was too late. You either kill dudes like that early in the game or you will get killed by them eventually
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Enshittification is a bitch EDIT (that said there's still lots of excellent television being made)
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Jerusalem posted:Assuming David Simon would love having AI write for him is akin to those poor bastards who showed Miyazaki their AI tool that they thought he could use to replace animators, and proceeded to have their souls flayed by his response. Did this actually happen? I'm stuck between wanting to see it and wishing it to be not real
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deoju posted:Anybody with a passing familiarity with Simon or just did a little research would have known what his response would be. The right question would have been, "what are your thoughts on AI?" and just record him going off.  It's about exactly what I expected It's absurd (obviously! Why wasn't it obvious to them??) that they went to a man who has spent a lifetime working hard at his craft, said "we're trying to build a machine that can do all the things you do, except without all the things that make what you do worthwhile", and expected approval
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Precambrian posted:The problem with this is you could so easily make The Wire in the Soviet Union or Cuba or in any socialist state with sufficient state capacity,. So either "capitalism" is a godlike force far too powerful for a feeble ideology like Marxism to defeat, or... The Game is about something bigger than capitalism. The Wire is about systems, about how increasing system capacity, whether in street gangs, corporations, or government agencies, demands greater sophistication, and with it, a greater reliance on data, doctrine, and hierarchy. You could say that Chernobyl is HBO's socialist equivalent to The Wire: men who need to hit quota and check off a box to secure their promotions, a disastrous reliance on numbers without any consideration that the methodology matters, and bosses who will sacrifice their underlings to preserve their status only to be sacrificed by their bosses to preserve their status. The poster you're replying to is one of the most vocal capital C communists on the forums (laudatory), haha
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Count Roland posted:Poverty Alleviation Drama? Are we being trolled? No. China has achieved extraordinary levels of poverty reduction. They have made dramas about this. Why is that so hard to believe?
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