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Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


deoju posted:

Honestly, there's nothing that compares to the Wire imo. Everything falls short in one way or another, characterization, accuracy, social critique...

I just picked up watching this show because of some people gushing about it in C-SPAM, and I gotta say, it's just TV man.

It has some good moments that make you think - if you want to. Like in season 2, where perennial gently caress-up Ziggy can be interpreted as either an obnoxious character you wish would just go the gently caress away and stop being forced in front of your eyeballs or the stand-in for a generation of kids with no future. If you wanted to, you could examine this constantly failing-upward idiot who eventually snaps and ruins everything for everyone as the product of his situation, and and I'm sure people have written treatises about it. But doing so does not make the author or the show any better for the effort, and the character's greatest contribution to fiction remains having put Baloogan on film.

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Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Groovelord Neato posted:

i enjoy narcos but it's the game of thrones version of the wire.

deadwood probably has the best dialogue for a tv show ever but yeah it certainly aint realistic.

If you like Narcos, then give Queen of the South a shot!

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Ainsley McTree posted:

Bodie is in an episode of the sopranos. I think itís in season one, he fucks up stealing a truck.

There's crossovers? Please show me on the chart how many steps removed Munch is from all this.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Avon Barksdale was in 2049

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


I was king of rooting for Stringer

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


I think Stringer's entire arc is best summarized when Clay Davis tells him he doesn't belong in either the street or business.

He is Icarus.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


In a show that goes out of its way to show that the more things change the more they change the same, Stringer never had a chance

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


As an aside, why is it that characters in The Wire use the word "police" as an unmodified noun? "I am a police", for example, or "he is a good police". Is that some kind of authentic, Baltimore-specific thing or did they make it up for the show? Because while I've heard that pronunciation before, "pō-lēs", I've never elsewhere heard it used as an unmodified noun. What's up with that?

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Just finished the series, and I'm really happy about the positive ending for Bubbles.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Stairmaster posted:

The wire is about how capitalism must be destroyed

The Wire is about Reginald "Bubbles" Cousins navigating addiction, betrayal, corruption, danger, and probably another word for every letter in the alphabet, on the way toward eventually getting his life back on track to be at peace with himself and make amends with people he cares about.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Jerusalem posted:

Bubbles walked up those stairs and sat down at the table for dinner

The happy ending for the good guy of the show.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


awesmoe posted:

as is bubbles, with sherrod

Bubbles did nothing wrong.

Bubbles is the hero of The Wire, and he wins.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Basebf555 posted:

The best part is how the desperation and horror really has nothing to do with potentially getting major time in prison, it's the idea that Omar was out there making GBS threads all over his name in the streets and now there was going to be no way for Marlo to come back on him for it(for multiple reasons). I think Marlo would've been ok going to prison if he would've done it as a street legend, he doesn't want to be remembered as the guy that cowered and hid from Omar though.

Of course this is true. Throughout the show we are shown that this is the expected attitude of the street. People go to jail, do what they have to do while they're in, and so long as they don't snitch that's actually good. It's like they are war veterans come home. It is a badge of honour to be a soldier.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


when i grow up i want to be brother mouzone

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Orange Devil posted:

What does it say that so many people just flat out don't understand anti-heroes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuzPN_8GwYA

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Season 5 is bad. Just watch the last half of the last episode.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Rand alPaul posted:



was David Simon actually pro-Carcetti? Did I misread his show?

What if Carcetti was the hero

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


My connect is your connect. Socialism in the streets.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


TV criminals have to be dumb so the TV police can look smart.

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Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Ornithology posted:

Why would anyone like Snoop or be upset at her death?

She's hard in a way many people are not used to seeing portrayed, especially at the time.

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