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Finally getting around to this show and just finished S3. Good stuff. Also this from the OP: quote:Carver is called in to see Colvin in his office, where he has the most pivotal encounter of his career. What follows is a massive turning point in his life, even more than Daniels' warning at the end of season one. Colvin starts by thanking him for his loyalty in moving the dead body out of the free zone, but then proceeds to calmly and gently lay out some cold hard truths to him - Carver isn't worth poo poo as a police officer. Carver's initial arrival had an air of a nervous student summoned to the principal's office, and now he sits and listens as he is insulted in an oddly amicable fashion. Colvin explains it isn't Carver's fault, harking back to Daniels' own warning by noting he has had nobody to offer him guidance, and plenty of bad examples to follow. He lays the blame squarely on the "war", explaining that the idea for the Free Zones came to him after Dozerman was shot over the "bullshit" of a simple buy-bust. "This drug thing, this ain't police work. No it ain't," he insists, and lays out just why. This episode was written by former police detective Ed Burns, and I have to think that Colvin's reasoning is very close to his own dismay over the way the system worked while he was there. You call something a war, people start thinking and acting like "warriors", they start to think of the dealers they're pursuing as the enemy, as the corners they're clearing as occupied territory. It becomes them and us, the "good guys" vs the "bad guys" and all sense of community is lost. He speaks nostalgically of how in the old days a patrolman walked his beat and knew his neighborhood - it wasn't occupied territory, it was their beat, and they built relationships and established networks. When a crime happened, there were people the patrolman could talk to/rely on for information. Nowadays though? Carver can bring him stats and organize buy-busts and running dealers temporarily off of corners but every time he comes to him for information on what is going on out there... he gets nothing. Carver is his Drug Enforcement Unit Sergeant and he doesn't know anything about what is actually happening on the street. They're interrupted by Mello, who has bad news for Colvin - a reporter from the Baltimore Sun has been through all three of the drug zones and he wants a statement. Colvin takes it in stride, he knew it was only a moment of time, and leaves Carver to sit pondering what he's just been told - everything he knows about being police is absolutely, 100% wrong. Really means something to me personally, as I saw it in real life. My father was one of the types Colvin was speaking about. He was a beat cop who really got to know the residents in his districts on the east side of Pittsburgh. He actually was proud that they knew him, trusted him, and cooperated with him. Things are a hell of a lot different now. My brother is also cop in Pgh, and is much like Carver. Cartouche fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Jun 10, 2016 |
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:Lucky You! You'll probably want to plan on doing at least one re-watch too, it's very rewarding once you are more familiar with the characters. The show is a lot to take in the first time around. "All the pieces matter". No doubt. My wife is not fond of the show, so I get to watch it all on my lonesome without distraction. Will definitely be rewatching. Now all done with S3 and so far it has been my favorite. S2 was kind of eh and only the last few eps were compelling to me. Just didn't care about the new characters beyond the female port cop, who I was really glad to see McNulty pay a visit to at the end of S3. Really enjoyed the Cutty arc. PS: Legalize Drugs. Unironically. Cartouche fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Jun 10, 2016 |
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Jun 10, 2016 13:37
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Tirranek posted:One of my favourite scenes in the whole series. Seth Gilliam absolutely nails Carver's reaction. What gives it even more punch is that Carver was shown to be 'on his side' and trying to cover Colvin over Hamsterdam. Being told you are a bad cop after putting yourself out like that would make it sting even more. I think it was more of advice to be more a cop than a soldier, as what they were doing was not being a cop.
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Jun 12, 2016 04:59
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LadyPictureShow posted:My memory is lacking on Cutty. Did he ever show up again after he got shot in the leg after one of the boys tried to get him to back off? Seeing as I haven't watched past S3 yet...  he showed up in The Walking Dead and died like a chump.
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Jun 13, 2016 19:47
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LadyPictureShow posted:Agreed on WD he went out as a chump. Especially after his big speech to try and help the guy from Everybody Hates Chris. Or especially after taking out a dozen zombies alone solo prior. Seriously, Cutty should have been able to simply punch zombie skulls and kill them instantly. Wire talk: Still savoring S3 and am holding off on S4 for the moment.
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Jun 14, 2016 13:49
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Just finished S4. RIP in peace Bodie. 
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Jul 3, 2016 04:53
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HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:Why the gently caress isn't "Homicide" on any of the streaming services The book was delivered to me on friday and I am nearly halfway through already. I cannot help but overlay the faces of the Wire cast onto the ones in the book, but it gets all confusticated when people randomly call each other Bunk. Damned good book, BTW.
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Ainsley McTree posted:In your head, is landsman tv landsman, or real life landsman (Mello)? TV Landsman
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Jul 19, 2016 18:12
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Finally finished S5. Omar getting offed was jarring. Shoehorning old characters got tiresome. Seeing Bubbles and Omar be "reborn" as the kids was... I dunno how to feel about that. I could have done without the whacky round about way of getting money for the Marlow investigation. Best part? Cheese getting offed.
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chesh posted:In interviews he will even say he had trouble narrowing the accent down, and it really slipped out when he A) Had a British director or B) Had scenes with Idris Elba. 3.5 year lag on this response: I just finished S5 recently, and I don't think it would have been the same had I known the actors from other work. For that I am grateful.
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