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Oct 15, 2012

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Just thinking about John C Reilly asking everyone what the gently caress he did

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Frankly, if anything, the Wire still romanticizes the police compared to reality.

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Ginette Reno posted:

I guess you could say the Wire is being unusually sympathetic to cops in that most real world police seem to be huge assholes and in the Wire only most of the cops are assholes and even the ones that are assholes have some redeeming qualities. :v:

Lol thatís actually what I was trying to say but itís cool that it got picked up into a full legit conversation on the topic

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IIRC Prez had a bath back with the right testimony/connections but ultimately decided that he really didn't want to keep being a police officer.

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I feel like there's a missing step. Like, was it his dad's McDonald's franchise he started working at and then inherited or something?

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Ainsley McTree posted:

what were his means exactly

lived in a mountain
commuted via cave

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Iím Pickle McNulty!

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Season 2 is such an underdog season but itís such an important one in the grand scheme of things

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Groundskeeper Silly posted:

What was the point of the serial killer plotline? Almost every other major plotline seemed both realistic (enough) and provided insight into some system or structure or group of people. Was it just to show that the newspaper's bosses were eager to print sensational stories, even if they were a little fishy? Surely there were ways to do that that were had some basis in reality.

David Simon had an axe to grind and he was a little too close to the subject matter. In particular Scott Templeton is sort of cobbled together from a bunch of other reporters that blatantly made up quotes and scenes and even won Pulitzers before being caught.

The serial killer stuff might be a bit out there but the idea that the publishers care more about selling the paper and the prestige than they do about the veracity is not wrong.

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Jerusalem posted:

Yeah, plus it looks like he has lost a ton of weight (in a good way) even if he's one of those guys who looks perpetually 45.

He was actually wearing a fat suit for The Wire.

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It's almost a bit silly to even compare them directly. They're both hour-long HBO dramas but they're just built very differently to tell two very different types of stories. Comparing The Sopranos to The Shield would be easier, I think.

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The Sopranos in the sheets, Homicide: Life on the Streets

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Season 1 starts out pretty rough but starts to hit its stride in the last stretch of episodes, and then season 2 is absolutely fantastic.

Season 3 is easily the worst season because it doesnít have ďYouíll Never Leave Harlan AliveĒ during the finale

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Really everything you need to fundamentally understand Carcetti is contained in that Season 3 scene where he cheats on his wife while staring at himself in the mirror the whole time.

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CBJSprague24 posted:

Through episode 2, he seems like a helicopter parent pushing their kid into doing something they don't want to do so they can live vicariously AND the kid wrapped up into one person. He wants The Prestige of being mayor but can't be bothered to put in the effort to win.

E- didn't he cheat on his wife with Teri D'Agostino? This is my first watch through, but it's been a couple years since I saw that episode.

The scene Iím thinking of is long before DíAgostino ever shows up. Itís back before heís even running for mayor

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Eh, I wouldn't. They're the weakest part of the season certainly but they're still a big part of the show and the throughline of the season.

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Also the newsroom arc directly intersects with the bubbles arc

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Itís also significant because his death comes from one of the civilians that he never interferes with. Kenard isnít in the game and so not only does Omar not see him as a threat, he doesnít see him at all.

And in dying without a confrontation Mario is also denied the respect that comes from killing him. Omar dies and fully becomes a creature of legend, and Marlo merely a coward afraid to face him.

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IIRC at one point McNulty tells him that he "shouldn't talk dirty now that [he's] a judge" which to me implies that his position is fairly recent, and that McNulty knew him before but I don't think anything is specifically states

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McNulty is definitely some kind of libertarian

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Which season gave us Lester asking for the pepper steak?

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That scene alone justifies the season imo

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zenguitarman posted:

But there's also that scene with Herc and Carver where Carver has to decide what to do with officer Collichio (after he assaults the guy in the car I think) and if Carv should bring the hammer down on him. Herc backs him up on his decision and basically says if you think that's the right thing to do, then it's the right thing to do. It's not a redemptive moment for Herc by any means, but its still a nice moment between the two.

I like that he and Collochio aren't the same kind of shithead cop. Herc genuinely supports his friends, backs them up, and willingly takes all the heat on himself when he tanks his career because he doesn't want to bring down anyone with him. I don't think Collichio would have done that.

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Itís incredible how differently I felt about Prez by the end, even though heís never really held accountable for the stuff he does at the start

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werdnam posted:

Just finished the last episode. Wow, that was depressing. And a bit frustrating that the ones who deserved it landed well, and the ones who didn't got wrecked. But it's not about deserving, right Snoop? I'm legitimately disappointed that the newspaper story, for all it looked to be building up to a climax, turned into a big nothing in the end.

Now I'm wondering how long I can wait to start a rewatch. This is the first series I've ever felt I could get anything substantial out of a rewatch.

Also, I've been going back to read a lot of the episode write-ups early in the thread, that's some quality reading.

The fact that most of the endings are so unsatisfying makes it that much sweeter for Bubbles, imo. I mean if you had to pick just one character to get a happy ending he's the one.

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Eason the Fifth posted:

poo poo I thought was just a post about the scene in the show

OD too, it looks like, man that sucks :(

Same, I thought someone just got to that point in their watch.

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Nothing like watching people on their first watch of the Wire and being so certain that Clay Davis is about to get comeuppance.

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Vichan posted:

Y-y-y-you think I'm done!

What are you reading there, Senator?

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Goes back to the Continental Marines back during the Revolution, I think.

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You can find the full episodes uploaded to YouTube and that's about the only option other than buying DVDs AFAIK

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Poot today is older than Rawls was in season 1


Is that true? No idea. But I bet you feel old now

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Aces High posted:

When you say Rawls do you mean the actor or the character?

Yes.


(Ok, so I can't find an exact birthdate for Tray Chaney but I've seen 1982 thrown around which would put him roughly ~20 when The Wire started and about 40 now. John Doman was born in 1945 so he was in his late 50s during season 1. But he would be around the age Lance Reddick was at the start of the show so you can still feel a little old.)

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I got my 73 year old dad watching The Wire and heís really into it. He just watched the episode where Wallace got killed

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I don't think he knows who any of these people are, but he identified Lance Reddick as the best actor in the show so far.

Tbh I think that's incredibly dangerous game to play but not a bad choice imo

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This season is very meta and I do not like it.

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roomtone posted:

i don't remember the co-op being a failure until marlo shows up at it

Yeah the co-op works fine until someone like Marlo shows up, who values the crown more than the money. Avon understood that. Prop Joe kind of understood that but thought he could civilize Marlo, Stringer never understood that

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WithoutTheFezOn posted:

He did know that. It was never determined whether or not he knew we're gonna look like some punk rear end bitches out there.

I love how Stringer immediately abandons all decorum after that remark

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Itís funny, but itís also the exact same attitude that leads him to try and put out a hit on Clay Davis so itís also just great story telling imo

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Ithle01 posted:

The Borgias with John Doman is the European one made by.... Canal+ I think? It's not the Starz one with Jeremy Irons. The Starz one is .... not ideal. Jeremy Irons is great, but everyone else is meh and the historical changes make me want to stab the writers in the neck because they sort of try to make Cesare the anti-hero, but end up whitewashing a dude who was a legit psychotic monster.

The European one is better, but I have yet to finish the second season. The first season is pretty good though. My only complaint is that the actors are supposed to be Italians/Spaniards and whoever cast them does absolutely nothing to maintain consistent accents or ways of speaking which results in some absolutely hilarious results at times. The entire Borgia family look and sound nothing alike. For example, John Doman does literally nothing about his accent and plays the part of Rodrigo Borgia as though he's Bill Rawls - if Bill Rawls was Pope Alexander VI.

edit: seriously, he plays the part exactly like he's still playing Bill Rawls.

"These are for you, Savonarola"

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McNulty could never be on the take.


I mean, that's mostly because he's already fully compromised in a completely different way but still

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