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frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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I've watched the entire series at least a half dozen times and there's something that's never fully explained or that I never understood completely.

I was re-watching season 3 ep 6 (I think) where Daniels is explaining to Pearlman the "trophy husband" situation he's in with his wife. He tells her something like "I owe it to her. I disappointed her before. And I did some bad things back in the Eastern." My question is, do they ever fully explain what Daniels actually did back in the day? Is it meant to be ambiguous? What's in the folder Burrell has on him? It always seemed implied, by Burrell's blackmailing of Daniels and Daniel's personal reprimanding of Herc and Carv for skimming money, that Daniels and his crew were stealing drug bust money or something but I don't get how that would be the thing that he'd have to make up for to his wife. Am I missing something?

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frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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The first time I watched the Wire I hated season 2 so much. I was so invested in the Barksdale organization that I almost didn't want to like all the new characters. After many rewatches of the entire series it's grown on me so much that I think season 2 is actually the strongest one. I love the Sobotkas and the Greeks and dock workers and SWEET BEATRICE RUSSELL so much!

The scene after Ziggy kills Glekas and goes back to his car while the police show up always makes me get hot in the face. It's just so intense. Also, when Nick and Ziggy's ex-girlfriend reminisce about Ziggy in the park while getting drunk makes my heart sink so deep in my stomach. "College kids ain't poo poo!"

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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I watched the Wire for the first time with subtitles on as well. They were on by default and I just left them on. It took me some time to understand all the abbreviations and things the cops use. DNR's? Do not resuscitate? What does that have to do with phone calls?

And I know this has been mentioned before but one of my favorite things about the subtitles is things like [Dogs barking] [Spider bags!] [Got that WMD] and everyone's favorite, while Michael smashes Kenard, [Look at that lil nigga gettin his rear end beat].

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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PostNouveau posted:

Dialed Number Recorder. It's the device that records all the numbers any phone number dials. It's the thing that lets them make those phone maps so they can see who's the central node in the group.

Yeah, I'm aware. I was pointing out that I was confused the first time I watched the show because they never explain the abbreviations and such. It's one of the things I picked up through context, not an overt explanation.

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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Yeah, it's just a branding thing. If you look at the actual vials before they're used, like when Omar steals them and dumps them out on the table, the caps on them are colored. So if it's a vial with a red-cap they call them red-tops. Same thing with "spider bags." I don't think they actually show any in the show but I've read enough TCC to figure it's literally being sold in a little baggie or envelope type thing with a picture of a spider stamped on it.

And as much as it's about putting a brand name to product, it can be used to un-brand a product quickly and easily too. If you're out there selling yellow-tops and word starts spreading among the users that yellow-tops are weak, you put the next batch in red-capped vials and suddenly your hard to move weak product becomes the new poo poo everyone wants to try.

edit: ^^ what he said better than me. And I figured I'd be the only one posting about the Wire at 5 am.

frenton fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Aug 2, 2014

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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KORNOLOGY posted:

What is that supposed to mean?

The game is the game. Always.

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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Skeesix posted:

Uhhhhhh beadie? That woman McNulty talks to before planning out the murders in season 5?

Ah yes, the very significant character, That Woman McNulty Talks To.

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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Forgive my ignorance but why can't they release the show in 16:9? They have 16:9 HD episodes of Seinfeld and it's an older show. Fuckin' HD, how does it work??

Man, I would kill for the Wire on Blu Ray.

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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drunken officeparty posted:

So why did people hate Cheese so much? I was :gonk: at his death. It was just so casual and heartless.

Maybe I'm biased because METHOD MAN :allears:

I feel you. At first I loved Cheese when he was just some off-brand East Side nigga because, yeah, METHOD MAN and he was pretty lovable in the dog fighting/interrogation scenes. But then he sold out Butchie AND Prop Joe so Cheese had to die. It's one of the very few "gently caress yeah, JUSTICE!" moments the show gave me.

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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MrBling posted:

Most likely because David Simon doesn't want it.

Aw, that's too bad. I thought some other poster's were implying it would be impossible to switch to HD because of the techonology, not that it was an artistic choice by the creators.

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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theCalamity posted:

Alan Sepinwall will be hosting The Wire cast reunion tonight at 7:15 PM Eastern. A livestream is provided in the link.

This is really cool. If you've got time definitely check it out.

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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The scene where Avon and Stringer reminisce on the balcony for the last time is one of my favorites of the entire series. They both pretend they're just being nostalgic when they both know they are really secretly saying goodbye. It's just so perfect.

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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I love that scene a lot too. "Lex is in there."

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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Kevyn posted:

I'm nearing the end of S2 and this shot is the first one that really made me notice how nice the 16:9 is



I absolutely love that grain pier building, it's a shame it got all cleaned up and turned into condos.

The finale montage as Nick walks along the fence and stops and stares at the port while being tailed by his witness protection escort looks so amazing too. There's a shot near the end where the camera is behind Nick as he clenches the chain link fence and the background of the port and docks zooms in while Nick stays still, like the port is rushing at him, that was absolutely jaw dropping in HD.

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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Party Plane Jones posted:

One thing you can notice in the HD version is the details on stuff that you wouldn't see in the original broadcast. Like how the prop money appears to have Levy's head on it.

One thing I can't believe I never noticed before was a David Simon cameo in season 2. When the FBI and Valcheck arrest Frank and walk him out in front of all the reporters David Simon is one of the guys hounding him with questions. I'd seen this episode probably 10 times in SD and never spotted him before.

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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Red Crown posted:

Don't know - not Butch, Butch's muscle. You first see him when he gears Omar up for a shivvin' in jail.He's killed when Omar raids the 5th floor apartment.


Art imitates life or???


From the Wikipedia. I had no idea.

Whoa, I didn't know about the real Ed Norris. One of the things he got popped for was the same thing they use to scare Clay Davis into giving up Levy and the leak in the courthouse aka the head shot.

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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Yeah, this is very very good. Thanks.

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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HBO consistently puts out great original programming. The Wire may be the pinnacle for most of us but the Sopranos, Boardwalk Empire, and True Detective are just a few examples of absolutely top notch TV. HBO is great!

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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Rupert Buttermilk posted:

I got kind of teary with that final scene between Michael and Bug :smith:

Michael's last scene with Dukie was brutal too.
"Yo Mike remember that one summer when we threw pee balloons on those other kids?"
".....I don't."

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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Raxivace posted:

I think the thing about season 3, for me at least, is that Marlo only kind of works as an oncoming threat in retrospect. He just doesn't have the same presence that Stringer or Avon or even the Greek had, and he looks and carries himself like half the kids I went to high school with. He just looks like a guy.


Michael is lying in this scene to make Dukie leave, right?

I've seen several people say that he literally doesn't remember this (Because his new life now being so rough that he can't remember such an over the top event I guess), which I find to be a little ridiculous.

I always took it that he literally did not remember and never thought twice about it but I actually think you guys are right and that makes it even more depressing for me.

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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Jerusalem posted:

I always figured he literally didn't remember - I mean consider all the things he has been through since then, especially the return of his abusive step-father and his complicity in removing him from the picture, or his first homicide. That relatively "innocent" Summer is so long ago for Michael that it might as well have happened to a different person, and he is now living a life where he doesn't even have the luxury of remembering childish antics.

Yeah like I think the idea of him deliberately shedding his childhood is spot on but I think it could be argued that he did this long before the Dukie scene, so maybe he blocked that memory out so well that he really doesn't remember it. Either way it's a great, powerful, emotional scene.

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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Wood Harris is in a not-terrible made for TV Jimi Hendrix biopic as Jimi Hendrix.

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frenton
Aug 15, 2005

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I didn't know that either. He's got a round, fat guy head and a normal sized body.

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