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Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




Troll Bridgington posted:

This scene still makes me laugh even after so many rewatches

https://youtu.be/uvwNPMX-mOQ?t=155


Konstantin posted:

I think this scene is funnier, all you need to know is Cheese shot an actual dog:

https://youtu.be/LfsQaeIYWoY

For my money, this is the funniest scene in the series, even though it skirts pretty close to being racist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrzpoUjJ_0g

The delivery is so strong.

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Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




Der Kyhe posted:

There are a couple of really jarring Law&Order (Orig., SVU don't remember) episodes where half of the non-regulars are from the cast of Wire. I really suspect that it wasn't intentional casting choice.

Peter Gerety was in every goddamn cop show ever made and I am sick to death of seeing him. He's not good at what he does.

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




Orange Devil posted:

TVIV has made me realize people can be bad at watching TV.

People who can't be bothered to pay attention to the shows they watch make as little sense to me as people who don't listen to the lyrics of music. Yet they're out there, masquerading as human beings.

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




theCalamity posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85FzjM-GkCk

Screen Prism is doing a series on The Wire. They're starting off with McNulty and Good Police

This poo poo sure is pointing out obvious things and adding no insight whatsoever.

Thanks for the "STRINGER BELL" text pop-up, I might not've remembered him.

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




Ainsley McTree posted:

Homicide the TV show isn't on the level of the wire, no; it suffers from being on a network, so they had to tone it down a little. There's a dramatic scene in which one of the detectives has the audacity to call his captain a butthead!

I think Homicide has higher highs than The Wire, but it does suffer a bit from being restrained by the network, and the fact that they bleed talent like nobody's business makes the last 2 seasons pretty dire.

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




Breaking Bad #3

Homicide #2

Darkwing Duck #1

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




cargo cult posted:

if the fifth season is bad it's primarily cause of the newspaper stuff, not the serial killer. the serial killer plot is firmly in jump the shark territory but some of the comedic writing and delivery is amazing. the newspaper stuff on the other hand is awful, i dont give a poo poo about these surly, snarky old fucks. gus is an insufferable sanctimonious prick and none of their plot lines intersect with the street stuff in a way that anyone can possibly give a poo poo about. it makes me think of a great landsman line from one of the eulogies "his poo poo was as weak as ours" all of the cops are drunks and gently caress ups but because of the casting theyre all super watchable. the newspaper people are apparently flawless, except when lovely decisions get forced on them by corporate. except in real life they basically enabled trump and the alt right at every given opportunity.

if theyd had more of kima in homicide and more of michael, a character they spent an entire season building up, it'd have been fine. instead they short change him for the newspaper bs.

I agree they're a bunch of boring assholes(and a lot of that is due to poor casting) but they're not flawless, they're just people who've convinced themselves they're Very Ethical and act accordingly. But they don't actually do poo poo to help anyone or report on anything that matters in the least. If the show had been made a few years later there'd probably some interesting dissection of the media's obsession with The Discourse, but this was still Bush era so things were different. The storyline doesn't do as good a job as the docks or the school subplots to show that the numbers game ruins everything, but ultimately that's what it's trying to say. The only people who care about the truth get buried because management wants to sell papers.

Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Mar 1, 2019

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




Lemon posted:

Cheese never bought a nail gun. A scene like that goes a long way for a character.

That's one of the best scenes in the entire series.

Ornithology posted:

Haha that's a funny quote. Why would anyone like Snoop or be upset at her death?

I mean I loving love the emperor from Star Wars.

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




Yeah to me the early seasons of Homicide and the movie are even more compelling than The Wire, despite having to work within strict FCC guidelines. The show's success and expansion of the characters from the book is a big part of what inspired Simon to get The Wire produced.

They have amazing guest stars too.

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




Bruce Cambpell's two-parter is really good too.

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




Bodie had it coming.

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




Bojack inadvertently causes the death of someone who might as well be Bubbles as a throwaway gag in season 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lMSWwAoe4E

Now obviously this has more to do with the zany cartoon aspect of the show, but it's also a good example of how his wealth insulates him from both consequences and the plight of those in lower socio-economic classes.

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




algebra testes posted:

I'm watching Homicide. I don't mean to jump to conclusions after half an episode but it seems pretty great.

Andre Braugher :discourse:

Edit: Polito being fired on NBC's insistence sucks though, he is great.

Maybe the best episode in the entire series is the fifth ever so it's ok to jump to conclusions. The show opens really strong.

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




Whatever it is Marlo and Stringer don't have it.

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.





If you look at David Simon on social media I'd say he's too out of touch to handle a reboot the way it needs handling.


Rollie Fingers posted:

I found Prez to be the most problematic and fantastical cop in the entire series. I have a feeling he was an Ed Burns creation/indulgence.

He's a violent and trigger happy cop who permanently blinds one person and then murders another, but these things can happen! He deserves another chance. He leaves the force after "unfair" accusations that he's racist (for shooting dead the first black guy he saw running) and then becomes a teacher with a heart of gold.

I thought he was pure fantasy.

In real life a violent cop like that would stay in the force and keep murdering.

I thought they went out of their way to show that, consciously or not, Prez's racism is very real and that his firing was completely justified, disappointing as its timing may be considering how much he's grown when it happens. And the reason he's a teacher with a heart of gold is that someone like him should never have been given a badge and a gun, he only became a cop because of family expectations and nepotism when it's clear his talents lie elsewhere. Once he's freed of the mantle of a cop he becomes a better person because being a cop is bad for your soul.

If he'd shot anyone but another cop I'm sure he could've stayed in the force, but it's clear he probably wouldn't have wanted to anyway. You can argue it's too sympathetic a depiction of what's ultimately a racist murdering cop like there are millions of, but I don't think it's as whitewashed as you portray it.

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Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




Stop talking about The Sopranos and start talking about Homicide: Life on the Streets.

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