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Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 1967


BiggerBoat posted:

Definitely.

He was completely in over his head on that and quite a few other things. Perfect example though.

But I get what he was trying to do. To Stringer, as long as the money came in, the product was good and the heat was low, that's all that mattered. Well, that and laundering the money legit which, still, was not a dumb idea. He wanted less street drama over corners, a much lower profile for the business, far less heat, fewer bodies and a basic sense of legitimacy. Seems like a smart enough goal.

Stringer thought money was the end all be all. He assumed if he brought everyone money, nobody would think twice. But that's not the game. (That's not even mentioning Strings half in/half out failure)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPS9YKGaKQE

Poot, Brodie, and Slim Charles are right. They are telling Stringer his "Money for everyone, everyone happy" plan wont work, all it would take for someone like Marlo to show up and gently caress it up. You cant just buy your way out of every situation. The guys who just want the name, who just want corners so people know their name wont go for the "rising tide lifts all boats."

Brother Mouzone mentions it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNEj2cMPTvQ#t=94s

Avon asks how much to save String. Brother Mouzone tells him it's not a money thing. Your word and your reputation go further than the money. Stringer never got that. He wanted to buy the reputation and got played by Clay Davis.


That 2nd clip is one of my favorite scenes in the entire show: the king sacrificing the queen. Even the small things in it are great: at 2 minutes in, he contemplates doing something, Mouzone drops his arms, ready if that's what it is going to take, and Avon thinks better.

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Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 1967


Brother Mouzone's power is knowing his exact place in the game.

He knows how it works, and he knows his spot.

Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 1967


Syrian Lannister posted:

Avon giving money to Cutty I think falls back to the respect he had for him, both in Jessup, and when he walked away from the game in season 3.

I absolutely love that scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaA0nmn8_fk

Cutty being honest with Avon and himself.

Slim Charles nervous look back and forth, unsure what is about to happen.

The look of absolute shock when Avon just says "Alright, we good"

Avon's leadership, Slim's loyalty and Cutty's bravery.

Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 1967


It's from the season 5 gag reel that was edited into that clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRlw9hKDU-Q#t=132s

Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 1967


Poot also stood by Bodie when they were coming for him at the end. He was there the entire time till Bodie looked back and let him know this was it, he wasn't backing down and he let Poot go.

Poot stood there while every other person on the corner bailed at the first shot.

Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 1967


bucketybuck posted:

As he so eloquently said to Dukie, "poo poo got old".

Those aren't the words of a man tormented by his memories, just a guy who recognised that the time had come to move on.

If you think about it as well, Poot was living in a squat trying to earn his living selling drugs on a corner. It wouldn't be easy at all to be in that situation but then find, get and keep a real job, but you see Poot in that shoe store and you get the sense that he will be running it soon enough. Man knows how to graft.

In the Wire "everyone becomes someone" way, Poot is the new flower guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pazj7Vo-wk

Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 1967


The only shot of the towers that matters:

Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 1967


God Hole posted:

for the person who was talkin about the towers, i recommend checking out the pruitt-igoe myth. it's a documentary about a housing project in st. louis, but unfortunately the story of pruitt-igoe is also the story of urban black housing projects in post-war america. you'll have no problem picturing some of the scenery that might have been found in the towers after watching. there's even a sickening publicity stunt demolition!

for those less familiar about the rise of urban crime, degradation, and white flight to the suburbs in the mid-20th century; it's a pretty nice overview of those phenomena and their causes as well.

optional extra credit: show me a hero (also david simon)

Thank you for this recommendation. Here it is streaming free with ads: https://pluto.tv/on-demand/movies/the-pruitt-igoe-myth-1-1

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Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 1967


Syrian Lannister posted:

It took me, probably three or four re-watches to appreciate seasons two and four.

2 sets up so much stuff so when you rewatch it or think back, it is so much better. First watch I was down on it, but once I hit the end: all the pieces matter.

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