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Would an LG G4 65 be a good purchase? I've been wanting to upgrade to an OLED for a while (especially since seeing how good my mother's LG A1 looks, even with only HD content) and it seems like this is the last generation before they really stuff a load of AI poo poo into TVs. I've seen it on sale for about £1600 (or £1800 with a free LG USC9S soundbar which I could flog on eBay or give to someone), which seems a reasonable price compared to the new G5 models (around £3300). I'll be upgrading from a Panasonic LED from 2019 so hopefully it'll be a good upgrade - though going by how sluggish the A1's interface is I think I'll be getting an Apple TV 4K to go with it.
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Mar 28, 2025 13:04
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Carpet posted:Would an LG G4 65 be a good purchase? I've been wanting to upgrade to an OLED for a while (especially since seeing how good my mother's LG A1 looks, even with only HD content) and it seems like this is the last generation before they really stuff a load of AI poo poo into TVs. The G4 is one of the best TV's available for all common use cases. The upgrade to the G5 is bigger than normal because of some new panel tech but would likely not be enough to justify the additional cost unless you're a big time enthusiast. I personally own a G4 and am pretty happy with it.
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Mar 28, 2025 13:37
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Carpet posted:Would an LG G4 65 be a good purchase? I've been wanting to upgrade to an OLED for a while (especially since seeing how good my mother's LG A1 looks, even with only HD content) and it seems like this is the last generation before they really stuff a load of AI poo poo into TVs. I also upgraded from a 2019 qled, to a 2024 flagship oled.  
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Vincent has a new video comparing G5 vs S95F vs his Sony reference monitor. The G5 looks absolutely stunning. It might be a trick of the camera, but I'm amazed at how much of an upgrade the G5 appears to be vs. the G4, plus the 4 stack tandem should substantially reduce burn in concerns. I'm stoked on this year's generational uplifts!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAS-gUh3zvw Mister Facetious posted:As an S95D owner, complaints of the matte screen finish are overrated. This thing loving owns, the anti-glare works as advertised, and the newest one is getting as much of a brightness increase as the D did over the C. That's totally fair. Full disclosure, I own a S95B currently, so I do love QD OLED, and I'm definitely open to the idea that the matte finish is fine. Right now I'm still favoring the G5, but I'll have to head down to Best Buy and check them both out soon (I will be claiming my burn in warranty and getting either the S95F or the G5, either one in 65 inch, not sure yet which one)
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Actually I have a question as well: so, these panels do 4K@165 fps, which I will use (just got my 5090 FE this week!) I have an HDMI 2.1 receiver; my question is, can I still use this receiver as a passthrough, or do I need to use eARC? It's ok if it's the latter, just wondering basically if this new 4k@165 tech is able to fit in under the bandwidth limitations of conventional HDMI 2.1 or if it's some new thing.
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Your receiver can probably pass through 4k@165, but only with DSC. Up to 120 Hz without DSC. Your receiver may be able to pass through up to 4k@240 with DSC Edit: even without the receiver in play, the HDMI 2.1 port on the TV won't do 165 without DSC. We already need beefier TV ports, somehow. Bloodplay it again fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Mar 28, 2025 |
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I see, thank you. I am very dumb when it comes to tv tech (also, in general), but I see that DSC means "Display Stream Compression". My receiver is a Pioneer VSX-LX305, do you think this receiver natively support DSC? Again, I'm ok with using eARC, but I do prefer to use the receiver if possible. I have no interest in buying a new receiver so if it will only work under eARC, so be it  e: Bloodplay it again posted:We already need beefier TV ports, somehow. It's honestly kind of infuriating. I feel like I just bought this HDMI 2.1 receiver, and it's already 35% below spec on what HDMI 2.1 can natively produce vs new gen televisions. HDMI 2.1 was a complete shitshow too. It took years for cables to work reliably, and we're already completely blowing away its spec in 2025. Sigh. I'm reading some stuff about DSC and it appears that it doesn't degrade the image quality, is that true in your experience? Taima fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Mar 28, 2025 |
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Mar 28, 2025 20:09
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Taima posted:I see, thank you. I am very dumb when it comes to tv tech (also, in general), but I see that DSC means "Display Stream Compression". I have never used DSC, so I cannot comment, but DSC is listed under video features on the US product page for that very high spec receiver. The only thing that seems odd is it lists up to 40 Gbps support, whereas HDMI 2.1 should be up to 48 Gbps. It does list 4k@120 but the only way to know for sure if 4k@165 works would be to test it all with a 48 Gbps HDMI cable.
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Bloodplay it again posted:I have never used DSC, so I cannot comment, but DSC is listed under video features on the US product page for that very high spec receiver. The only thing that seems odd is it lists up to 40 Gbps support, whereas HDMI 2.1 should be up to 48 Gbps. It does list 4k@120 but the only way to know for sure if 4k@165 works would be to test it all with a 48 Gbps HDMI cable. I don't think it's uncommon for HDMI 2.1 parts out there to just do up to 40gbps because that gives them support for the resolutions they want (especially with DSC) and not have to use more expensive top speed parts. The spec allows for 48gbps but doesn't require it. DSC is considered "visually lossless". You can read on the wiki page for it what that means...I've never noticed any artifacts from it myself.
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Very few receivers actually support 48gbps because the chipset they all used is from a single vendor and could only do 40 [after promising 48 and coming out a year later than expected]. IMO it's usually best to just connect directly to the display and use ARC. HDMI 2.2 is supposed to support 96gbps, I look forward to it being implemented in 2030 at the eariest
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Mar 28, 2025 23:35
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Taima posted:Vincent has a new video comparing G5 vs S95F vs his Sony reference monitor. The G5 looks absolutely stunning. It might be a trick of the camera, but I'm amazed at how much of an upgrade the G5 appears to be vs. the G4, plus the 4 stack tandem should substantially reduce burn in concerns. I'm stoked on this year's generational uplifts!!! hopefully it trickles down to monitors so there's a straightforward technology without pixel layout and vrr flicker conceits
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qirex posted:Very few receivers actually support 48gbps because the chipset they all used is from a single vendor and could only do 40 [after promising 48 and coming out a year later than expected]. IMO it's usually best to just connect directly to the display and use ARC. Hilariously, HDMI 2.2 still couldn't support my monitor at native resolution and full frame rate without compression (7680x2160@240). Sure, it's a flagship monitor, but a next gen spec that isn't even out yet should at least support every current display.
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KillHour posted:Hilariously, HDMI 2.2 still couldn't support my monitor at native resolution and full frame rate without compression (7680x2160@240). Sure, it's a flagship monitor, but a next gen spec that isn't even out yet should at least support every current display.
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Why isn’t dual mode displays a thing for TVs? You’d think that would be better and cheaper than using upscalers?
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technically a question about a projector but this feels like the better place to ask because it's more about HDCP i just received this little mini-projector as a gift (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/aurzenzip/aurzen-zip-tri-fold-projector/description) and i'm curious if there are any decent workarounds for HDCP on the input side. USB-C port seems to be charging only, so all data goes through some sort of screen mirroring protocol that forces HDCP blocking is there anything i can do to suppress this on the input device? i imagine it's not realistic with a phone, but on a PC/laptop maybe?
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xgalaxy posted:Why isn’t dual mode displays a thing for TVs? You’d think that would be better and cheaper than using upscalers? stuker posted:technically a question about a projector but this feels like the better place to ask because it's more about HDCP edit: It looks like they sell an addon dongle that takes HDMI in and converts it to Miracast, so you might be able to just use that straight up if the dongle supports HDCP, and if not it could then hypothetically be paired with a device that strips HDCP. wolrah fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Mar 31, 2025 |
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This stupid loving LG TV. I have this LG 47LM6700 that I got firesaled, basically. Pretty good picture for it's age! Never had the remote, but generally that was fine. I got it configured at some point so that when My PS5 or Roku turned on, it would automatically change inputs. It worked really well! I was loving around trying out HDMI ARC, and now I broke that feature. No matter what I do, it won't come back. At the time, they called it "Simplink" which is just CEC commands - and I have CEC turned on.... but it's not the same. There must be some trick to getting the inputs to register as CEC or something. They used to have green "SimpLink" labels under the inputs labels on the input menu, but they're gone now.
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I've complained a few times in this thread and probably the monitor thread about how all the fiber optic HDMI cables have the ends permanently attached instead of using standard fiber ends, and today a video came up in my recommendations where someone actually did what I wanted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aIK01S5qa4 https://www.amazon.com/RUIPRO-Detachable-Armored-Compatible-Projector/dp/B0DPWR4BXY A pair of dongles with MPO connectors shipped along with a standard fiber patch cable. It's beautiful. Pricing seems to be basically $100 for the dongles plus whatever the cable costs. It's more expensive than most of the single-part cables, but the flexibility advantages are obvious.
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wolrah posted:Anything that can strip HDCP works on the HDMI interface (technically could be DisplayPort as well, but I've never seen one that wasn't HDMI), usually it'll be sold as a splitter where "conveniently" the second output just ignores HDCP or something along the same lines. If the device isn't able to take a HDMI input and only works via Miracast as it seems that won't help. appreciate the advice! i believe that add-on dongle is specifically to address the whole HDCP issue, and it does fix one of my use cases though unrelated to HDCP (connecting a steam deck via a dock w/ HDMI output) sounds like the second (streaming HDCP-blocked media via phone/etc) is iffier, though combining the dongle with a USB-C/HDMI adapter might do the trick?
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wolrah posted:It's more expensive than most of the single-part cables, but the flexibility advantages are obvious. This stuff is golden if you want to pull a hdmi link thru walls, I’m currently checking who imports it in Italy to grab a few.
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stuker posted:it does fix one of my use cases though unrelated to HDCP (connecting a steam deck via a dock w/ HDMI output) quote:sounds like the second (streaming HDCP-blocked media via phone/etc) is iffier, though combining the dongle with a USB-C/HDMI adapter might do the trick? SlowBloke posted:This stuff is golden if you want to pull a hdmi link thru walls, I’m currently checking who imports it in Italy to grab a few. I was already planning to run a lot of MPO cables around my house as I do rewiring projects to enable future high-speed networking, this definitely added a few more paths to the list. wolrah fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Apr 4, 2025 |
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wolrah posted:I've complained a few times in this thread and probably the monitor thread about how all the fiber optic HDMI cables have the ends permanently attached instead of using standard fiber ends, and today a video came up in my recommendations where someone actually did what I wanted. hell yeah  is there a usb equivalent of this? I'd love to move my desktop, work laptop etc into the garage and then just run three-four fibers through the floor with a single kvm bolted to the underside of my desk
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Hadlock posted:hell yeah There are a lot of optical usb extender, they are just stupid expensive as they are strictly business av stuff. This Lindy kit https://www.lindy.co.uk/usb-c4/usb-extension-c222/100m-fibre-optic-usb-3-2-type-c-extender-p13383/s13543?cid=GBP&glCurrency=GBP&glCountry=GB is about 500€.
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I'm fantasizing about a usb over HDMI package via raspberry pi(s) or something now
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Hadlock posted:I'm fantasizing about a usb over HDMI package via raspberry pi(s) or something now If your wall conduit has enough room for a single twisted pair wire and you don’t need more than 4k60p, hdbase-t will provide usb, Ethernet, serial, irda and video at a relatively cheap price. If you can only fit fiber, the prices will go thru the roof.
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If you were on the fence on a new OLED TV, the new Bravia 8 has been announced and it's not a new Bravia 8, it's a replacement for the A95L, i.e. much more expensive, $1,000 by UK pricing, US hasn't been announced yet. Not clear if the Bravia 8 and Bravia 8 II are going to co-exist but I'm guessing not. I've been extremely happy with our Bravia 8 and glad I went with it over the comparable LG and Samsung models. Probably safe to pull the trigger on the Bravia 8 now if the Sony OS is worth it to you, among other random preferences.
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Hadlock posted:hell yeah In the AV industry it's just standard to send EVERYTHING via CAT cable because it's cheap and fairly hardy (plus you can send via switches etc). My workplace uses reasonably spendy Extron stuff but there are other companies out there selling products that do the same thing for less cash. Sling 'usb extender cat' into whichever search box you like and take your pick.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:In the AV industry it's just standard to send EVERYTHING via CAT cable because it's cheap and fairly hardy (plus you can send via switches etc). My workplace uses reasonably spendy Extron stuff but there are other companies out there selling products that do the same thing for less cash. Sling 'usb extender cat' into whichever search box you like and take your pick. Extron does both copper (DTP) and fiber (FOX), the main issue with FOX is that it doesn’t push power to the encoders/decoders so you need an extra power brick per endpoint. I’m not a big fan of DTP/HDbaseT since you need to very cautious with people unplugging endpoints and plugging those patches to active devices (power is passive and will fry anything downstream, be it switches or computers) and it’s super picky with wiring.
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Not exactly TV related but wiring things related, I had never heard of MoCA before moving into a new house and trying to figure out how to move the router from outside in the garage to a more central location in the house so my TV would have a better wifi signal. Whole house is wired for coax so I just bought two MoCA adapters and moved the router inside the house and connected to an existing coax connection. Getting full gig upload/download through it. Blew my mind. A Proper Uppercut fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Apr 7, 2025 |
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A Proper Uppercut posted:Not exactly TV related but wiring things related, I had never heard of MoCA before moving into a new house and trying to figure out how to move the router from outside in the garage to a more central location in the house so my TV would have a better wifi signal. I'm pretty sure we have a dedicated coax line going upstairs, I've been tempted to try this but a mesh router upstairs proved to be good enough. But you know, I want it to be perfect. Did you do anything to test if it would work before you bought it?
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TheOneVader posted:I'm pretty sure we have a dedicated coax line going upstairs, I've been tempted to try this but a mesh router upstairs proved to be good enough. But you know, I want it to be perfect. Did you do anything to test if it would work before you bought it? Depending on mesh kit brand you could still gain performance from MoCA by having a wired backhaul (freeing radio spectrum for clients).
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TheOneVader posted:I'm pretty sure we have a dedicated coax line going upstairs, I've been tempted to try this but a mesh router upstairs proved to be good enough. But you know, I want it to be perfect. Did you do anything to test if it would work before you bought it? I didn't do any testing, but I knew the house had been remodeled to the studs about 20 years ago so I assume the coax was in good shape. This is what I got, you more than likely need one on both ends. https://a.co/d/exngC4B
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A Proper Uppercut posted:I didn't do any testing, but I knew the house had been remodeled to the studs about 20 years ago so I assume the coax was in good shape.
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TVs don't have enough HDMI ports. Are there any HDMI switchers out there that feel actually good? The ones I've bought before, they're basically...serviceable. They get the job done at a basic level and that's it. I'm not even sure exactly what I'm looking for, but I'm willing to pay more for a better switcher. Maybe if it could handle the auto-input switching when devices turn on, like the HDMI ports directly on the TV do? VRR support would be cool too.
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You’re looking for a receiver. You can use them as just hdmi switchers, and keep using your tv for audio.
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Interesting, I hadn't considered a receiver, probably because of the association with fancy home audio systems (I'll get there someday, but not just yet). Thanks for the tip!
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This feels like a stupid question, but I can’t find a good answer: I bought an LG tv recently and noticed after I hooked up the antenna that it has not only the broadcast channels I receive, but also maybe 200 LG-branded streaming channels that have various things on loop: forensics files, mythbusters, the old Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon, and also themed movie channels. Are these really just free streaming channels that are paid for by ads and that came free with my tv? All together they simulate the experience of having basic cable in the 90s pretty well (I don’t know if the movies are tv edits, but I assume they are).
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I AM GRANDO posted:This feels like a stupid question, but I can’t find a good answer: I bought an LG tv recently and noticed after I hooked up the antenna that it has not only the broadcast channels I receive, but also maybe 200 LG-branded streaming channels that have various things on loop: forensics files, mythbusters, the old Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon, and also themed movie channels. Are these really just free streaming channels that are paid for by ads and that came free with my tv? All together they simulate the experience of having basic cable in the 90s pretty well (I don’t know if the movies are tv edits, but I assume they are). My Samsung has the same thing. All the shows on these "channels" are probably incredibly cheap to license, most are low bitrate, and selling adspace for a captive audience is easy money. Confession: i did leave the top gear one ona few times
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