Tide posted:

I've got pretty good eyes, but is there a noticeable difference between 720p and 1080p at the 4'-6' distance? I don't want it to look just "okay", I want it to look great. Would prefer a dumb TV at 60hz, rather than a smart TV at 120hz. Easy test would be to hook up the PS4 to the 720p 32" and see what it looks like but am mostly curious how much I would be missing out by not getting a 1080p of the same size.

Mill Village posted:

I think the first two TVs would be considered mid-range televisions, while the Sony is a top of the line TV. It does have deinterlacing features for 480i games as well. It does cost quite a bit more then the other TVs, though.

Aphrodite posted:

I don't think I've ever seen a photo of a TV screen actually look clear like that.

Phone posted:

After missing out on a 65" then 60" Samsung 6350 series TV, I watched Slick deals like a hawk and picked up a 55" 6350 for $820 after tax and 5% discount. I also won the panel lottery and got the nice Samsung panel.

Everything has been awesome so far outside of the remote. I need to figure out what to do about sound, though.

Phone posted:

Look at the Version on the back of the box. There's a 4 character code, and someone has a table somewhere. Mine's TH01 and it means that Samsung made the panel.

This is from last year on avsforums:

Bonobos posted:

If you are gaming that's no contest, get the Sony. The w802a reportedly one of the smallest input lags of any tv in its size. You want this for gaming. Otherwise you will get annoying delays before your button presses are registered.

GreenNight posted:

Not with Vizio. All of their bezels are the same. I think some of the high end Samsungs are matte, but they are $2000+.

Pain of Mind posted:

I just purchased a LED 65" Samsung UN65H7150 but it has not been delivered yet. Does anyone have knowledge/experiences with this line? Also, I recall seeing talk about different panel manufacturers for Samsung, anyone know how likely this model's panel will be made in a Samsung factory?

Dr Tran posted:

What the fudge

MMD3 posted:

so I know this was covered relatively recently but the last time I asked I wasn't ready to pull the trigger and now I am...

I'm looking for the best Sony or Samsung 65" (willing to go down to 60" if there's a huge price difference) 1080p display in the $2000 or under range.

Last time I asked the tv I was pointed to was the Sony KDL65W-850A, unfortunately it's not available on Amazon anymore but it looks like it may be available at Best Buy for $1699.

Are there any better options in the price range or is this still the best set?

MMD3 posted:

There's actually a like-new UN65H7150 on our local craigslist at the moment for $1750. I'm trying to weigh if it's worth buying it from a private seller to save $250. I did that with my current 40" samsung and it worked out fine for me, have never had a problem with it.

Pain of Mind posted:

Just received the tv and set it up today. It had the Samsung panel as well. What do you mean by Samsung junk to turn off? I read through that link and just tried the most recent recommended settings (page 24/post 700). It looks pretty nice, though I noticed that for some reason some of the settings were ghosted and unable to be changed for me. One example was the HDMI black level; the guide recommended changing it to low, but I was unable to change it and it was set to the default of medium. Does the HDMI input matter? It suggested putting the cable box on 1, but I placed it into HDMI 2 because that is the order of the devices in the tv stand.

What settings are you using?

MMD3 posted:

I'm also curious how the latency is on the H7150's. One of the things I want to ensure I'm able to do w/ the tv is run steam streaming through a media pc of some sort.

JustJeff88 posted:

I would appreciate some Goon help in picking out a modest HDTV.

Laugh all you want, but my only television is a CRT monolith that I bought in 2007 that remains with me to this day. I'm about to move for something like the 11th time in the last 12 years or so, and I'm tired of schlepping that monstrosity with me. Also, I just received a WiiU as a gift and I would like to enjoy the graphical splendour of that system.

I should note that I don't watch television live, so this is purely for gaming. I have a PS2, original XBox, Wii, and now a WiiU as well. I spent a good hour+ at Best Buy today and apparently plasma TVs are the thing amongst hard-core gamers, but I think that that is mostly for the Call of Duty monkeys - I just want to play Mario games in bright colours. I really prefer the look of LED to plasma anyway (much more bright and striking), and I thought that perhaps a 120hz model would help avoid the stuttering that can happen with gaming systems. I was going to get just a 32" system as that is the viewable area on my current monstrosity, but I could see myself going into the low 40's. I just don't want to spend a huge amount on this TV as it's going to see fairly light use. I originally wanted one with a built-in DVD player, but now that I think of it I don't really need it with all of those game systems. Best Buy has a sale this week with a 42" LG (1080, 120) for $389 and, though it's a bit over my budget, I was really impressed with it in the store and the customer reviews on it have been very strong. Does this sound like a good fit for my needs, or do you have any other suggestions?

PS I know that upgrading to a HDTV will require changing cables for my PS2 and my X-Box (not sure what I need for my Wii yet). Is there a decent hub out there for component input? I already have one for A/V input, but that obviously won't work with a new TV and only the very large TVs these days have 4 HDMI inputs.

bull3964 posted:

It's really a common thing on all edge lit LCDs from $500 Vizios to $3000 Sonys. If you can't see it during normal viewing, don't drive yourself crazy about it.

If it really bothers you, buy a 2014 Vizio that's full array backlit.

Aphrodite posted:

It's probably cheaper to go over the border and stay 48 hours to get up to the $800 duty exemption bracket and bring a TV back. It's ridiculous.

suddenlyissoon posted:

As I said before, I get lost in the craziness of AVSForums but I recently have stumbled through a few people saying questioning why anyone would actually by an 4K TV when they will not be compatible with the final spec of UHD Blu-Ray or broadcast. I mean, that can't be completely true, right? These things have been on sale for 3 or 4 years now and they're being marketed this year as "future compatible". Surely they're not going to alienate an entire group of people (mainly the people who are buying 4K's during the holiday sales) in less than a year, right?

Martytoof posted:

What's the general consensus on 1080p upres'd to 4K? Is it going to look as comical as SD was when upres'd to HD?

I'm looking at replacing my 8+ year old Westinghouse (lol) HDTV and I figured if I'm going to spend the cash I may as well just go 4K at this point, unless we're expecting the price to start plummeting in the next 6 months. Anyway, all the demo units in stores are always running pristine 4K source material and all the sales people are "no it's going to look AMAZING" which is what I'd say too if I was trying to push a $2k+ TV

Don Lapre posted:

There is 4k content right now. Netflix, YouTube, amazon soon, and there is a uhd only TV app coming out by the end of the year. There should ask be 4k BluRay next year

That being said, buy a 8500 plasma

Don Lapre posted:

Clouds shouldn't really bother it too much. Probably just poor aiming.

Aphrodite posted:

Also Destiny is floaty, weak Halo gameplay so it's not the best example.

Loomer posted:

Meanwhile in Australia the only 4k telly in town costs 20,000. Of course it's also 84", but still, gently caress that. I just bought (going on a year now, actually) a 64" Samsung and I figure by the time 4k rolls around in proper numbers it'll be breaking down anyway. Going from one of the cheap-ish early plasmas to a high quality end-of-tech one was mindblowing incidentally.

Don Lapre posted:

The reason not to go above fireplaces is its simply so freaking high up. Tv's should be eye level.

Reverse Centaur posted:

Kaedric posted:

Based on that link the input lag is 43.4ms on the 7150. I have been looking for a TV to put up in my loft for video games with the kids, does that rule it out as a contender? Are there better options for a large TV for this purpose given that I don't care about 3d or about 4k?

EDIT: Also, the 51" 8500 is 999 bucks right now. Is that a steal? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...90071&cp=1&lp=1

Constellation I posted:

Canadian

Don Lapre posted:

LG's oled tv 2 years ago was 4mm

BonoMan posted:

They don't go far enough around to show the bulge in the lower back I'm guessing.

Constellation I posted:

Yeah, from TV hunting in the past couple of months, all the research I've found is that all these thin TV's have horrible flashlighting, black uniformity, grey uniformity and sound. It probably contributes to why most of the TVs nowadays have such lovely build quality. The race to getting them thinner and thinner is getting pretty ridiculous. I wouldn't mind if it doesn't hurt the quality, but it does.

I understand the need for it for laptops, phones and tablets but for a TV? Eh, it's impressive for like the first hour but a thicker TV isn't a dealbreaker even if you consider wall-mounting.