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tk
Dec 10, 2003

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Rincebrain posted:

So, the good news is, I find myself with a gorgeous TC-P50S60 (thanks in no small part to the tip last page about nearby open box units at physical Best Buys).

The bad news, however, is that it did not come with the pedestal or wall mount, so I am now in the market for a stand for this bad boy.

Should I just try to eBay the relevant official part, since the vendor site doesn't have one? Does somebody make reputable stands that fit standard form factors?

Or am I just screwed?

This may not be what you're looking for, but I somewhat recently moved to a TV stand with a mount similar to this one that I quite enjoy. I felt like I paid closer to $200 for it, but I'm probably wrong.

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tk
Dec 10, 2003

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Don Lapre posted:

For panel types it appears all but the 55" are va panels. The 55" is IPS. Via is preferred unless you need wide view angles.
How wide are we talking about? I'm thinking about replacing my (7 year?) old 50" Panasonic plasma with one of these new-fangled 60" Vizios, but I'm a little out of touch with TV technology. I would say I regularly sit maybe 45 degrees off dead center.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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I suppose that thinking about it a little more, the only time I'm going to be at a terribly wide angle is when I'm in the kitchen, and even then my TV stand swivels a bit. Nevertheless, I'll swing by Best Buy to check things out there. Will also give me some time to reasearch other stuff and talk myself out of buying a TV that I don't particularly need.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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8-bit Miniboss posted:

Sony TV's are one of the best brand name televisions.

Edit: You have to remember that big corporations like Sony have entire groups that focus on one product line. The quality of Sony laptops are not indicative of another product. Also, there's a reason why Sony is spinning of their laptop business.
Are you really linking an article about how poorly Sony's TV and laptop divisions are doing to emphasize how much their laptops suck compared to their TVs?

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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I ended up snagging the 60" Vizio P-Series. It's only been a few days, but so far I'm quite pleased with the purchase. The color distortion at my normal viewing angles isn't noticeable, and even when I'm out in the kitchen it's not bad enough for me to care. I also have a very well lit living room, and the improvement in glare vs. my plasma is enough that I don't think my girlfriend would let me go back even if I wanted to.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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Wowporn posted:

No, not quite that crazy. It's a 60" plasma, amazon says it weighs 80 lbs but I'm inclined to say that is an underestimate. I thought about wall mounting when I got it but the idea makes me nervous and I feel like all the cabling would look like poo poo then.

As an apartment dweller, I wasn't really interested in wall mounting, so I bought something similar to this a couple years ago at Frys: http://www.amazon.com/Z-Line-CO570055MX-Quality-Durable-Shelves/dp/B00DCFVV44/

Used it for about a year with my 50" plasma that definitely weighed more than 80 pounds. No issues.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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EL BROMANCE posted:

Are people talking about soundbars more because they're being forced into a smaller solution (due to space/not destroying their marriage) or because they've jumped up in quality? While I doubt I'll keep a 5.1 system in the new place, I'd quite like to have an amp capable of it for the future and a 2.0 setup with either bookshelves or floor standers still. But if they're capable of comparable sound, maybe I should skip the amp stage too.

I'm in an apartment, so it's a mix of space and not wanting to be a dick, because I know I would use a better system too loudly. Fewer wires isn't terrible either.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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What's the advice for a TV being put into a really bright room? My new place has a ton of windows, and I'm wondering if I can do better than the 2014 (?) P series that I have currently. Or is this just a situation where everything is going to suck enough that I should just get used to closing the shades all the time?

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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Endless Mike posted:

Sony's Android TV is probably the best smart TV implementation other than LG's WebOS.

"Better than most other smart TV implementations" is not a tremendously high bar to clear.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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Cheaper than I would have expected. They must intended to sell a couple.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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I always just assumed something like that would be something they build 10 of to show off as demos and are all "sure, if you want to pay $50,000 for one we'll sell it to you".

tk fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Sep 23, 2016

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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GreenNight posted:

I don't have a TV in the bedroom, am I doing something wrong?

Look at this rich guy with more than one room.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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In my mind the big benefit of the Smart Hub over the others is that the base station / IR emitters are stationary and I can hold the remote like a jackass and it still works. The Smart Remote is also a very nice form factor. There's a small benefit in being able to use my iPad as a remote instead of reaching the whole way over to the coffee table to grab the remote.

The Harmony software has improved over the years, in the sense that I don't want to tear my hair out ever time I have to change something. The iOS version seems to at least reliably connect (and work), even if it's slow and the interface is balls.

tk fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Oct 5, 2016

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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qirex posted:

One thing I don't get about the current crop of harmony remotes is the non-LCD model seems dumb. The volume control is in a weird place and although it says it controls 8 devices there's exactly 3 activity buttons on the remote with six "smart home" controls underneath. Who has wifi light bulbs and home automation but only has 3 sources? I know you can remap all the buttons but "press the slightly larger light bulb to turn on the PS4" isn't a great compromise.

I have the remote without the home automation buttons, so just three activity buttons (short+long press for 6 mapped activities), and none of them are mapped to anything that remotely resembles the on-remote icons. Even so, the benefit is that the remote is small enough that I don't have to move it around in my hand, and I can hit any button on the remote without looking. Even though the buttons don't make any sense, it's not too hard to put together something memorable (left=streaming devices, middle=game consoles, right=tv+music).

I just have guests use their phones and that's easy enough.

Edit: I really can't emphasize enough how much I like the form factor of this guy. Most comfortable remote I have used in ages.

tk fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Oct 5, 2016

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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EL BROMANCE posted:

Deserved for being mounted above a fireplace, imho.

If they had mounted it maybe they would just have sore necks, but they apparently decided to go with the "I'm sure the mantel can hold this much weight" approach.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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Above my fireplace is the only place in my apartment that I can realistically put the tv. The bottom of the screen is at about the height that I would like, which sucks, but worth it to have a functioning furniture layout. We originally had it mounted about 5 inches higher, and moving it down made a world of difference.

On the plus side, either side of the fireplace makes a really nice place to put floor standing speakers, so being able to actually hear stuff is nice.

Elderbean posted:

Even in western Washington, I don't understand why a fireplace is necessary. It doesn't get that cold here.

I'm live in western Washington and use my fireplace all the time. It's not because I'm cold, it's because being in front of the fire feels awesome.

Probably won't seek out a fireplace when I move out of here, but as long as it's here I will be toasty warm all the time.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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Elderbean posted:

What TV mount would be recommended for someone who has a fireplace and no other options? I'm looking for a nice mount with the ability to pull the TV out and lower it a bit so it's closer to eye level. Are soundbars good enough for a small living room? What's the typical speaker solution in the 200-300 price range?

There's a lot of full motion mounts that pull out and tilt, but I don't recall seeing anything that drops down when I was looking. Full motion is pretty cool. I love when I'm home alone and get to swing the tv around so it's straight in my face.

Monoprice has some good mounts with decent specs available. Most mounts are pretty similar, but things like "how far does the tv stick out from the wall" weren't terribly easy to find out.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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Wilford Cutlery posted:

Odd question, I know: is there any way to find out what the largest TV available to consumers would have been in 1997?

You could probably comb through old tv user manuals. A quick search shows Sony had at least a 61" available: https://www.manualslib.com/manual/510550/Sony-Kp-61v45.html

Maybe search through reports of CES 1997 or something.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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Kobayashi posted:

Any thoughts on the Samsung Frame TV from the information available so far? I love the idea of industrial design other than a black rectangle, so this looks great to me.

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/6/16/15816296/samsung-frame-tv-will-start-at-2000

I think it looks quite nice. According to CNet though, it's roughly a $700-1000 premium on the screen, plus another $200 if you want a non-black bezel. Hard for me to justify that kind of premium when the superior LG OLED screen is the same price, but whatever floats your boat.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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codo27 posted:

Who the holy sweet jesus could possibly gaf about the Vizios not having a TV tuner? Go buy a big new 4K TV and watch over the air TV?

That's the easiest way to watch football?

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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Aeka 2.0 posted:

GOD drat HDMI loving sucks!

I need a cable that can pass 4k @60hz. I'm running a projector so I have a 30 foot cable run. I've tried standard cables, ive tried the redmere. So far the best solution has been a regular cable with a little booster at the end of a run on a 1 foot hdmi cable. But the image wiggles a bit.

It needs to be CL3 rated. I'd love to be able to split 2 15 foot cables with a booster but I don't know if it will work, and I also don't think that booster will be in wall compliant.

HDMI sucks.

I went through entirely too many HDMI cables before landing on AmazonBasics. Only needed the one 15 footer, but it works swimmingly for 4K @ 60hz.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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priznat posted:

Holy shiiiiiit they made HD remasters? I am an idiot and never knew this and have been watching my rips of my series DVDs.

And they're on Netflix?? Christ ~facepalm~

It's not your fault that finding things on Netflix is a nightmare.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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I have my TV mounted above my fireplace and it’s great. Mount yours wherever you want it.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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Boris Galerkin posted:

Mantle mounting is dumb and you’ve all got 4K HDR might as well take advantage of it with Netflix’s fireplace shows and a fireplace mount



It saves energy because now you’re House is sealed off. No more drafts coming in through the fireplace or sneaky thieves!

I can’t believe somebody took this picture without a fireplace video on the tv.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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dalstrs posted:

Looks like my Vizio just died (will not power on at all), what are the best brands at the cheaper end of the spectrum? I'm looking for something 60-70" with at least 4 HDMI inputs. Would like to spend less than $600 if possible.

FWIW, when my Vizio died I was able to locate a replacement power supply for like $100 and it’s been chugging along for another couple years since then. It was a pretty easy operation.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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The harmony hub / smart control are fantastic. Just wish you could connect multiple remotes to the hub at once.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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Boxman posted:

As a Harmony hub haver - maybe its different but its still mind bogglingly bad. The only reason this is acceptable is because you only have to wrestle with it for an hour or so then you can go forever before having to deal with its bullshit again.

My dog chewed up the remote that goes with the hub and while it works, I would buy another...except I don't want to have to deal with setting it up.

All the settings are stored on the hub / in the cloud. Replacing the remote is just a matter of pairing it with the hub. I don’t think you even need to touch the software.

The iOS app is a lot more usable than the old windows app was. It’s still pretty painful.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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Discussion Quorum posted:

We are moving into a 4th-floor apartment with a large living room and TONS of windows. We love it, but but it's probably a challenging environment for a TV :v: The TV will be on a north-facing wall. Nearly the entire east-facing wall and probably 75% of the south-facing wall are windows. The windows have built-in shades that do a good but not perfect job of blocking light, and they will probably be open a lot of the time. The viewing area will most likely be +/- 45 degrees off the TV center but I'd like it to have some flexibility since it will be a living room TV and not a home theater TV.
I live in a similar place. Which TV you get will not have nearly as big an impact on your viewing experience what exactly will be reflected in the tv at your particular viewing point(s). When it’s dark, any light source (street lights, signs, interior building lights) is going to be apparent, and the better reflection rating is going to be a bit like having a slightly smaller red spot in the middle of your nice white sweater. We are lucky to able to position our tv and couches such that there aren’t any major light sources visible from the couches.

Higher brightness will help a bit with indirect light during the day. When the sun is shining directly in there’s not a whole lot to be done aside from pulling the blinds.

tk fucked around with this message at 23:02 on May 1, 2020

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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I have my C9 in an extremely windowed room that gets direct sunlight in the mornings. It’s also hanging above a fireplace that I keep turned on most of the time. Three months in and I absolutely love it. I’ll report back when it craps out on me.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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Almost Smart posted:

It's impressive that LG can make the tops of these televisions so thin, but at the same time I kind of wish they wouldn't. We were terrified we were going to bend or crack the screen just moving the TV to its stand.
I could not agree with this any more. I do not spend a whole lot of time looking at my tv from the side, and something more substantial to grab on the top half would have made mounting 10x easier.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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unpurposed posted:

Thanks yall! The Harmony Hub is what I was looking at but I didn't know about the IR extender.

I think the likely setup I would do would be the hub with the components and an IR extender through the wall to the TV. Would it be possible to have the IR extender be hidden behind the TV and still work? I suppose I don't know where the IR port on the C9 is. I want to avoid having a visible cable.

IR port on the C9 is center bottom where the power led is. IR blasters are fairly forgiving and I’m pretty confident you’ll be able to find somewhere unobtrusive in the room to place one. Although directly on the back of the tv might be the one place that won’t work.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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The positioning of this tv is killing me. It’s not centered on the wall, it’s not centered above the media cabinet, it’s not centered in front of the seating area. I’m imagining that the first thing they did was hang up the tv and we’re going to be getting a bigger tv soon anyways why would I rehang it now?

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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Senor Tron posted:

When I bought the Bravia the showcase to make the most of it was Planet Earth. What's the 2021 go to for something to really see what a 4k screen can do?

Planet Earth II

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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FilthyImp posted:

Dude just really wanted to justify buying the dumb frame tv.

They wanted the frame tv and they bought the frame tv. It’s justified.

I don’t know if it makes you feel good to harp on somebody because they have different television priorities than you, but it makes you look like a self-centered insecure rear end in a top hat.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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FilthyImp posted:

Self centered rear end in a top hat sure, but insecure? :xd:

Honestly there was a decent conversation about just what the demo for the Frame was and then the poster came back with
"Ok, thanks for the videophile lectures but let's assume that when I said I know it's overpriced for the panel I in fact already know that."

So yeah, they deserved some ribbing.

How many The Frame did you buy for your condo, TK?

Yeah, I’m going to double down on that insecure thing.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

the point of this thread is to discuss what is the best television to buy, so if you come in here waving your dick about buying a dumb tv, you can't get all huffy if you get dunked for it

Sounds like the dumb tv was the best television to buy for this scenario? And lol at characterizing that response as huffy.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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bull3964 posted:

The thread is fine with not buying OLEDs, it's the spending the same amount of money or more for a TV of same size that's not an OLED where the eyebrow raising happens.
Then you need to grow the gently caress up.

There are people out there buying frame TVs even though they know an oled has superior picture quality. Can you think of any reason that somebody would do that?


BonoMan posted:

It's SA - we rib people for weird choices. The guy mentions he's *going* to get an OLED later but for now he needed a flush mounted TV.

Are you really going to call FilthyImp’s posting a “ribbing”?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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BonoMan posted:

Yes. You are really overreacting.

Nah, I’m not. This isn’t Something Awful 2004. Calling people insane because you’re too small minded to consider other perspectives isn’t good natured-ribbing. It’s being an rear end in a top hat, and it’s exhausting to read.

FilthyImp posted:

The same poo poo happens in the Used Car recc thread. It happens in the other building/buying recommendation threads.

Then go gently caress off to the used car thread. There has been plenty of reasonable discussion on the topic, but none of it is coming from you.

People buy those frame TVs because it’s a good product that appeals to their needs. They didn’t make a bad decision. They aren’t stupid or insane.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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BonoMan posted:

Frame purchaser spotted.

Grow up. A television isn’t a reason to put somebody down.

I don’t own a frame. I own a C9 and a CX. But to be honest I would give either of them up for 4K + Plasma caliber motion. I merely think that attacking people because you’re unwilling to understand their opinion is obnoxious, boorish, and has no place here.

tk fucked around with this message at 01:00 on May 30, 2021

tk
Dec 10, 2003

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FilthyImp posted:

I like the guy who hadn't posted here in 6 months acting as tone police and gatekeeper.

I wasn’t aware there was a minimum posting quota to maintain my membership.

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And kind of tangential to everything but people apparently loving love the miniLED ipads that just came out.

It’s nice. It is extremely bright. If you are a person who watches a lot of movies in the sun, this is the device for you. In more normal environments it’s definitely better than my 2-3 gens older iPad but nothing to write home about.

In a bit of a new problem for me: it’s doesn’t get dim enough. Old iPad gets a couple notches dimmer on the low end. In a very dark room the miniled is a bit uncomfortable on my eyes.

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tk
Dec 10, 2003

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KingKapalone posted:

I have the Smart Control and the Harmony Hub. There's a list of buttons from the LG remote when I go to edit a button on my Harmony remote and don't see that one.

The Disney+ button is presumably new and not yet in Logitech’s database. Either Logitech has to update or you can teach your hub the code yourself: https://support.myharmony.com/en-ls/teach-harmony-a-missing-command

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