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HolyDukeNukem
Sep 10, 2008


Holy crap, I didn't expect them to actually announce a new rotary anytime soon.

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MiniFoo
Dec 25, 2006

METHAMPHETAMINE

Aaaaaaaaaw poo poo. :munch:

This was in the related links, and I made the mistake of clicking on it. Now I can't wait to visit my parents for Thanksgiving and drive mine again...

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/mazda-rx-7-revisited-driving-rotary-engined-king-spin

MiniFoo fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Oct 27, 2015

meltie
Nov 9, 2003

Not a sodding fridge.

HolyDukeNukem posted:

Holy crap, I didn't expect them to actually announce a new rotary anytime soon.

Apparently the announcement is happening right now (23.30 GMT)

MiniFoo
Dec 25, 2006

METHAMPHETAMINE

MAZDA RX-VISION

SKYACTIV-R

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





That engine note :flashfap:

Not a bad looking car either.

Nodoze
Aug 17, 2006

If it's only for a night I can live without you
It looks like the batmobile from Batman:The Animated Series

MiniFoo
Dec 25, 2006

METHAMPHETAMINE

is this the real life

is this just fantasy

THE DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS LOOK LIKE POP-UPS

McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


Sweet Jesus - that reveal was basically hardcore pornography.

meltie
Nov 9, 2003

Not a sodding fridge.
Yeeesh, that thing is ugly as sin and twice as derivative.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Where are you seeing the announcement?

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Comrade Flynn posted:

Where are you seeing the announcement?

http://insidemazda.mazdausa.com/mazda-news/mazda-new-sports-car-concept/

Looks like now they've just got some drat overlay on the video blocking the actual car, but it says they'll have more info up literally any minute now.

Nodoze
Aug 17, 2006

If it's only for a night I can live without you

Comrade Flynn posted:

Where are you seeing the announcement?

It was here http://insidemazda.mazdausa.com/mazda-news/mazda-new-sports-car-concept/

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.
I missed it because I was playing rocket league :(

MiniFoo
Dec 25, 2006

METHAMPHETAMINE

Friendly reminder that the FT-86 Concept was pretty ugly as well



[edit] Here's a temporary Twitter image:

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





There we go.




I'm down with this.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

That looks rad besides the dumb headlights. Given concept cars are always toned down I think this will end up a good looking car.

MiniFoo
Dec 25, 2006

METHAMPHETAMINE

Comrade Flynn posted:

That looks rad besides the dumb headlights. Given concept cars are always toned down I think this will end up a good looking car.

Personally, I love the headlight idea.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011



MiniFoo
Dec 25, 2006

METHAMPHETAMINE

And in case you wanted wallpapers: http://www.mazdausamedia.com/RX-Vision-concept#assets_70:24114

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
Ummm.... ONE pedal and a foot rest????

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
Gas pedel is hiding in that picture, but yes- the concept's an auto.

the spyder fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Nov 26, 2015

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

the spyder posted:

Gad pedel is hiding in that picture, but yes- the concept's an auto.

Auto so you can't short shift it and kill the engine under revving.

I can dream!

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.
Why is the hood so long? You easily fit a straight-6 under there.

stevobob
Nov 16, 2008

Alchemy - the study of how to turn LS1's into a 20B. :science:


Cat Hatter posted:

Why is the hood so long? You easily fit a straight-6 under there.

Six rotors, that is. :getin:

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

stevobob posted:

Six rotors, that is. :getin:

Alternate answer: They tucked a two rotor engine behind the seats like the mid-engined Lotus Evora and the "hood" is actually an enormous frunk.

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

Cat Hatter posted:

Why is the hood so long? You easily fit a straight-6 under there.

stevobob
Nov 16, 2008

Alchemy - the study of how to turn LS1's into a 20B. :science:


I assume the engine note was actually the 787b or Furai? Are there videos/audio of a running engine, or specs? The long hood is absolutely fantastic.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

the spyder posted:

Gad pedel is hiding in that picture, but yes- the concept's an auto.

gently caress that poo poo, manual or GTFO

I have an RX-7 again, or more precisely the RX-7 I bought in 1991 has boomeranged back to me. Series II, now with a 13B, Series III rear end, 4.9 LSD. Pics to come.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.
Ugh, I hope prices on performance 285/35-20 tires goes down by the time this hits market.

mafoose
Oct 30, 2006

volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and vulvas and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dongs and volvos and dons and volvos and dogs and volvos and cats and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs

Comrade Flynn posted:

That looks rad besides the dumb headlights. Given concept cars are always toned down I think this will end up a good looking car.

"Toned down" meaning all the aggressive lines will be removed and all the fat rolls curves will be let out.

shodanjr_gr
Nov 20, 2007
This car looks like a Corvette C7 and Mazda RX7 made sweet love after a night of binge drinking and then had a baby.








Which is something that I am perfectly fine with as an owner of the former and a wanna-be owner of the latter. This thing better have some power and rev to eight billion RPM though.

McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


What the gently caress Mazda, this is the second clutch pedal bracket that has snapped in a year. JB Weld better hold it together until the properly welded unit from BHR shows up. I wonder if someone at Mazda USA could find out which engineer designed that thing...and get me their name. So I can pay them a visit. Bet it's the same guy who decided to re-design the apex seals as well.

DarkLikePoe
Mar 17, 2008

what happens when you play catch without arms
Goddammit Mazda, why do you tease us so?

I love Mazda and will always go to bat for them, but I got to say, the market's been waiting for a high-performance rotary replacement since 1994/2011 (choose your own adventure, RADL goons), and at least for me, it's been a lot like being a Dodger fan:

"Things are looking up! Maybe this is our year!" --> Disappointment. Again.

DarkLikePoe fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Nov 25, 2015

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
While I admire the series 1-2 rx7, it was a cramped hatchback. While I admire the FD, it was too expensive.
Hell, I've been waiting longer than 94/2011. The older series were lighter and had a useful rear seat. If I wanted no rear seat I'd buy a ute.
I've been in the back seat of every older RX model as a passenger and wasn't cramped. I mainly bought rx3 sedans and rx4 coupes, mates had rx5s, rx2s. I haven't been in the back of an actual r100, but a mate's girlfriend had a mazda 1300 which is the same body-shell and I could sit back there. (We were all about mazdas back then, getting family, friends and girlfriends to buy mazdas. I even got my girlfriend to buy a mazda 323 after she wrote off her mk2 escort ghia - that went out in style when she rolled escort).
I've helped mates buy rx7s previously, but back then they were bottomed out in the market and only ~$1k, while the older rxs were ~$2k+ and more my thing.
The rx8 chassis and design for a usable rear was perfect, doing the same suicide doors like their trucks, shame about the motor in it though. I guess what I'm saying is even if they were cheap, I'd probably never buy an rx7 or this new car if it comes out looking like the concept. But if they make it, I may buy a wrecked one for the motor in 5-10 years and think about buying a cheap rx8 to put it in.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Nov 25, 2015

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

In absolute honesty though I want the Vision to be a no compromise 2 seater.
And I really like the concept: Massive wheels and everything.

parid
Mar 18, 2004
Twister rotors finally got more stock in. I have been trying to get my hands on one for a couple of years. Just getting the word out in case anyone else has been looking.

http://www.twistedrotors.com/order.html

McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


parid posted:

Twister rotors finally got more stock in. I have been trying to get my hands on one for a couple of years. Just getting the word out in case anyone else has been looking.

http://www.twistedrotors.com/order.html

I have one of these on the way. Here's hoping I can make some cash on the side with this thing.

Edit: New Black Halo Racing clutch pedal bracket showed up. Such pretty welds. I swear if this breaks, I'm setting fire to the car.



McTinkerson fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Dec 6, 2015

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

Shut up, Nick! You're not Twilight.
My wife and I have been shopping around for an RX-8 after she test drove one and really liked it. There is an absolute astounding number of these cars from 04 and 05 up for sale for a song and a dance, usually right about at 100,000 miles. I know these two model years in particular have been problematic, but if we find one that has the ECU updated and good compression with a manual transmission, how reliable is it likely to be?

Also how difficult is it to rebuild one of these engines? Ive been looking around for a guide of some sort with pretty limited luck, getting them out of the car seems comparatively simple but I cant find much information beyond that. Also is there a particular go to site to buy things like rebuild kits, ignition stuff and other general parts? For our E39 Pelican Parts has become our go to, do RX8s have a similar retailers?

McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


Disclaimer: I / my SO owns a 2006 RX-8 and I am a huge rotary nerd / fanboy.

CoffeeBooze posted:

My wife and I have been shopping around for an RX-8 after she test drove one and really liked it. There is an absolute astounding number of these cars from 04 and 05 up for sale for a song and a dance, usually right about at 100,000 miles. I know these two model years in particular have been problematic, but if we find one that has the ECU updated and good compression with a manual transmission, how reliable is it likely to be?
As reliable as a RX-8 S1 can be. Even with everything done to it as early as possible ECU wise AND it has good compression, it's still a S1 '8 with physically different oiling than the S2's. I would use it as a bargaining chip, spend the ~$300 and toss one of these at it. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/RHD-231-Mazd...URTh923&vxp=mtr
There are a select few RX-8's with 200k km on them that are still on their orig engine - they're the anomaly though. Every single one of them was owned by someone who understood the car from day one.

CoffeeBooze posted:

Also how difficult is it to rebuild one of these engines? Ive been looking around for a guide of some sort with pretty limited luck, getting them out of the car seems comparatively simple but I cant find much information beyond that.
Rebuilds are easy. There's quite a few really good instruction videos on how to do it. It's the parts that are expensive. When a rotary actually loses complete compression on at least one rotor face, a hard part has failed and that has damaged at least half the engine right there. So you need to buy replacements. With the RX-8's, you could buy three blown engines and still not have enough hard parts between the three to build one good one.

CoffeeBooze posted:

Also is there a particular go to site to buy things like rebuild kits, ignition stuff and other general parts? For our E39 Pelican Parts has become our go to, do RX8s have a similar retailers?

Mazdatrix, Racing Beat, Atkins Rotary, Pineapple Racing, Goopy Performance, many Australian and NZ shops, many small Japanese shops. There are quite a few places out there, but due to the specialized nature and small pool of vehicles / enthusiasts, the economies of scale really aren't in our favour price wise. That being said, now is for sure the time to be into rotaries because there has been gradual growth since the 70's so it's not that bad now.

I'm sure the spyder and the other rotary goons who have been in this game longer than I have and have some financial skin in the game regarding services, etc will also chime in and correct me on a few things.

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DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

Shut up, Nick! You're not Twilight.

McTinkerson posted:


Mazdatrix, Racing Beat, Atkins Rotary, Pineapple Racing, Goopy Performance, many Australian and NZ shops, many small Japanese shops. There are quite a few places out there, but due to the specialized nature and small pool of vehicles / enthusiasts, the economies of scale really aren't in our favour price wise. That being said, now is for sure the time to be into rotaries because there has been gradual growth since the 70's so it's not that bad now.

Thanks for the reply. This in particular is incredibly useful. There are so many retailers out there now for parts, finding a few that will provide reasonably priced kits that are just what you need can be hard. On top of that I am totally new to rotary engines and they seem very, very different from what I am used to. They also seem fun as hell.

Anyway, I am thinking we will probably pick up an 04 or 05 with around 100,000, on the odometer and decent compression. Preferably a six speed. Right off the bat we will install a third party oil metering pump and then just drive it until the engine fails, which seems to be a bit of a crap shoot but will likely be sooner than later. At that point we will rebuild the engine using one of the various kits out there (the top price for a kit including everything seems to be $1200, I assume since we would like to keep the car for quite a while it will be worthwhile to replace everything) and then hopefully drive the car for another 70,000 miles or so. Does this seem like a reasonable plan?

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