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Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




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Keanu Grieves posted:

I liked Thirst, The Chaser and I Saw the Devil. (Curiously, I hated Oldboy.) Where do I go next?

EDIT: Also, I don't know if this was asked or explained in the last thread, but is there an obvious cultural reason for South Korean thrillers' incredibly graphic violence or am I just extrapolating a false idea from the few South Korean thrillers I've seen?

It's pretty much mandatory viewing to watch Memories of Murder if you're going to get into South Korean movies. It stars the guy from Thirst too. It's not violent or anything though, it's more a crime procedural/mystery. You should try some of their gangster movies.

And yeah, the violence in Korean movies tends to be a lot more graphic than most, no idea why though.


Also, if anyone hasn't heard, three Korean directors are having their North American film debuts in 2013.
Chan-Wook Park is directing Stoker, Jee-Woon Kim is doing The Last Stand with Schwarzenegger, and Joon-Ho Bong is doing Snowpiercer (which sounds really interesting and Kang-Ho Song has a part in it).

Stoker:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brjtL-2kE9A

The Last Stand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIersyq-Gt8




e: Oh yeah, the director/actors from The Chaser did another movie, The Yellow Sea. I think consensus in the last thread was that it doesn't come close to The Chaser, though.

Gringo Heisenberg fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Dec 29, 2012

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Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




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lil sartre posted:

The Host - Saw it a long time ago, it's probably the best example of Korean style 9001 film genres crammed into one movie


You should see Save The Green Planet!, it's incredible how many different genres they use in it and how flawlessly they transition between them.

e: Had a few minutes and skipped through some parts in Arrow. Holy poo poo this thing is going to be annoying to watch with all the stupid shaky cam, it's almost as bad as the Bourne Ultimatum.

Gringo Heisenberg fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Jan 1, 2013

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




:dukedog:
Anybody seen The Last Stand yet?

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




:dukedog:
:siren:Oldboy will be playing at participating Cineplex movie theaters at the beginning of February (4th and 5th), as part of the Great Digital Film Festival :siren:
Battle Royale will also be playing those same two days.
http://www.cineplex.com/Events/DigitalFilmFest/ParticipatingTheatres.aspx

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




:dukedog:
My Sassy Girl and Castaway on the Moon are both really good, Hello Ghost too. Hello Ghost isn't really rom/com, more comedy. Same with Castaway.

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




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Gunna be house sitting for a relative next week and will have nothing to do but watch movies, so I need some recommendations! I feel like I've seen all the really, really good Korean movies, but I'm hoping I missed some. Here's the ones I've seen (also I'll categorize it and definitely recommend pretty much all of them):


Some of them are misnumbered, but whatever.

Gangster:

1. A Bittersweet Life
2. A Dirty Carnival
3. Rough Cut (also comedy)
4. My Wife is a Gangster
5. Friend
6. Sunflower (also drama)
7. The Show Must Go On
47. Number 3 (also gangster)

Crime:
8. Memories of Murder
9. Children
10. The Chaser
11. The Yellow Sea
12. City of Violence
13. World of Silence
44. The President's Last Bang (also part comedy)
45. Bloody Tie

Revenge:
14. Mr. Vengeance
15. Oldboy
16. Lady Vengeance
17. I Saw the Devil
18. The Man from Nowhere

Comedy:
18.The Foul King (wrestling comedy)
19.My Sassy Girl (also Rom-Com)
20. The Host (monster movie)
21. The Quiet Family (Dark comedy)
22. Welcome to Dongmakgol
23. The King and the Clown (also drama)
24. I'm A Cyborg, But That's OK
25. Guns and Talks
26. Attack the Gas Station
27. Castaway on the Moon
28. The Good, The Bad, The Weird
42. YMCA Baseball
43. Hello Ghost
46. Going By the Book
49. No Mercy for the Rude (loved this one)
50. The Big Bang

Drama
29. JSA AKA Joint Security Area:
30. Secret Sunshine
31. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter, and Spring...
32. Crying Fist (also boxing)
33. Friend (also gangster)
41. Failan (also part gangster)
51. Painted Fire/Strokes of Fire
53. A Moment to Remember (romantic)

WAR
34. Silmido
35. Taegukgi

OTHER
36. Save the Green Planet: (Mix of pretty much every genre)
37. Secret Reunion (spy/action)
38. Thirst (vampire movie)
39. Fighter in the Wind (like a Korean Ip Man)
40. Musa
48. Art of Fighting
52. Countdown


To watch: Mother (shameful, I know), Breathless, The Thieves, Arrow (loving shaky cam)

Movies I didn't enjoy: Spring, Fall, etc (just too quiet and boring, I see why others like it though), Secret Sunshine, A Moment to Remember, I'm A Cyborg but That's Okay, My Wife is a Gangster (just really forgettable), and Failan. The others I either really loved or at least liked.
I'm not sure how much I'm going to like Kim Ki Duk's movies, from what I've seen/heard so far.

So, anyone think of any really obvious great movies that I'm missing?
Ones I've got that I'm iffy on watching: Barking Dogs Never Bite, Voice of a Murderer, Who Slept with her Sexy Teacher, Marathon, The Classic, The President's Barber, Masterpiece, Tazza: The High Rollers, Kick the Moon, The Unjust, Puzzle, Public Enemy, Handphone, Low Life (Raging Years), Hi Dharma, Blood Rain, Cold Fish (Japanese), Bad Guy, Champion, Antique, Cyrano Agency, Holiday, Moss.

Gringo Heisenberg fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Feb 1, 2013

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




:dukedog:
Thanks for the suggestions everyone, I'm going to get started on watching a bunch of the recommendations this week.

And speaking of limited US releases, a reminder that :siren:Oldboy is playing tomorrow and Tuesday at select Cineplex theaters.

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




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tofes posted:

I watched The Yellow Sea a few days ago and was left underwhelmed, but it caused me to come back and revisit The Chaser. That movie is a still a real drat good thriller, cant wait to see what the director does next.

I feel the same way.


^ I don't regret watching The Chaser first, and you could go either way really. Watch Yellow Sea first so your hopes aren't super high for it after watching The Chaser, or watch The Chaser first so it's your first introduction to the director & cast.

Also I watched Breathless last night and it was really bleak. It's about the cycle of abuse/domestic violence where a miserable rear end in a top hat debt collector befriends a highschool girl. I've never really been bothered by violence, but there were some pretty drat uncomfortable/depressing scenes in this movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsh07veWqmU



e: Anyone seen No Blood, No Tears?

Gringo Heisenberg fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Feb 19, 2013

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




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WillBBC3 posted:

The director of Thirst will be in town doing a Q and A.

That's awesome, someone go and post about it.

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




:dukedog:
I thought they put The King and the Clown twice those posters are so similar. How is Masquerade?

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




:dukedog:
So Stoker has started playing at a theater in my city, so maybe it's getting a bit of a wider release now?

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




:dukedog:
I really disliked Spring, Summer, etc etc, because of how slow and quiet it was, would I still like Pieta?

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




:dukedog:
Oldboy remake poster and trailer.

http://movies.yahoo.com/video/oldboy-red-band-trailer-230022287.html



Don't think I'll be seeing it.

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




:dukedog:

ladron posted:


One movie you may not have seen because it's Japanese (although about Korea, in a way) is Blood and Bones. I'd suggest checking it out if you like the depressing, gritty brutal life stories like Breathless (the original name is "poo poo Fly", which I think is much more appropriate).

Breathless
was awesome and I wish more people would see it. Top 3 for sure, huge downer though.

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




:dukedog:
The Front Line is about the Korean War and is directed by the same guy who did Secret Reunion and the writer for JSA. It's follows a group of South Korean soldiers and a group of North Korean soldiers as a hill changes hands over and over and over. Also, one of the South Korean officers is trying to solve a suspicious death (and was in JSA).

Silmido is about a bunch of criminals who basically agree to be sent to an island by the military instead of being executed. There they're trained for their mission of assassinating Kim Il-Sung. Not sure if it's exactly what you're looking for though because it's just them on the island for the most part, no Northerners.

Welcome to Dongmakgol
is downright pleasant. It's about the Korean War again, this time a small group of North and South Korean soldiers are stuck together in a remote village whose inhabitants have no idea what's going on in the outside world. So they basically just have to work together and be friendly until they hopefully get picked up by their countries and can get out.

e: director stuff

Gringo Heisenberg fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Oct 27, 2013

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




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Woops, yes he did. Shoulda been director of Secret Reunion and writer of JSA. Editing post.

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




:dukedog:

Xandoom posted:

So could someone explain the end of Oldboy to me? I was confused.

Oh Dae-su saw Woo-jin loving his own sister back when they were in school and told everyone and (I think?) spread the rumour that Woo-jin also got her pregnant. Woo-jin's sister threw herself off a dam because of it and Woo-jin blamed Dae-su.

Note: His sister wasn't actually pregnant, she just thought she was because of the stress from the rumour Dae-su started or something.

As a result, Woo-jin threw Dae-su in that hotel jail years and years later as revenge. Woo-jin also took Dae-su's young daughter, Mi-do, while he was in the jail and sent her to a foster parent of his choosing. While in the hotel jail, Dae-su saw on the news that he iwas being accused of killing his wife and running away, leaving his daughter. While in the hotel jail Woo-jin has Dae-su hypnotized to prime him to do certain things once released. I think he also does this to Mi-do to make her forget what her father looks like?

Dae-su gets lets out by Woo-jin and meets a sushi chef, Mi-do, and doesn't realize it is his daughter. Mi-do starts helping him and they have sex. At the big climax of the movie, Woo-jin reveals that his revenge was setting up Dae-su to gently caress his own daughter so that he feels the same pain Woo-jin does/did or something. Dae-su begs him not to tell Mi-do and cuts off his own tongue because his big mouth is what Woo-jin sees as killing his sister. Woo-jin kills himself in the elevator because the only thing he had left to live for after his sister killed herself was getting revenge on Dae-su.

At the very end, Dae-su goes to see a hypnotist to ask her to erase his knowledge of Mi-do being his daughter. Possibly so he could stay in a relationship with her?

So the whole thing was about Woo-jin's revenge, not Dae-su's.

e: Oh, also there was some stuff about "the monster" that I forget, someone can probably cover it better.


Been a while but I think I got most of it.

Gringo Heisenberg fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Dec 2, 2013

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




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I'd love any write ups you can give, lately I've been feeling like I've watched most of the really great movies of the new wave and don't have much left. Been on the fence about watching The New World, and any write ups of Kang-Ho Song movies are always good. I've been reading all of your write ups but don't usually have much to contribute. Have you seen Breathless?

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




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EvilElmo posted:

I really enjoyed A Company Man and The Man From Nowhere, are there other Korean movies you guys would recommend that are similar?

Watched War of Arrows yesterday and enjoyed that. About to watch Masquerade. The hard part is finding these movies, when I lived in Sydney (Australia) there is a huge Korean community so easy enough to find DVDs. Not so much where I live now.

If you're looking for revenge/action then in addition to The Chaser (top 3 favourites for me): Oldboy, A Bittersweet Life, No Mercy For the Rude (lots of comedy too, it's also about a hitman), The City of Violence, I Saw the Devil.
You could branch out to gangster flicks and get some more good movies to watch.

I tried watching War of Arrows once, but oh god the shaky cam was unbearable. Please post about Masquerade when you've watched it, I've been interested in watching it for a while.

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




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Ok, if you want gangsters too there are a ton of great options.

Gunna plug Breathless for the nth time. Without getting too much into the plot, it's a movie about a vicious debt collector who befriends a high school girl. It focuses a lot on domestic violence and the cycle of abuse, and is the only movie I can remember that actually made me really uncomfortable during some of the violent scenes. Bleak and depressing. You know when you have a trailer like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUE77_OMF0g
You're in for an experience.
Probably hard to find though.


In no particular order:

1. A Bittersweet Life: probably the most popular gangster movie in this thread. Basically a gangster getting his revenge (also, the main actor has been breaking into Hollywood. He was in G I Joe and Red/Red 2)

2. A Dirty Carnival: Another really popular one: "Byung-Doo (Zo In-Sung) is a low-level gangster, barely able to take care of his family and the gang members working under him. His boss frequently short changes Byung-Doo and gives the more lucrative jobs to other people in his organization. Byung-Doo soon attempts to change his fate by risking his own life."

3. Rough Cut: An action star infamous for being too rough with his co-stars/stuntmen asks an actual gangster to co-star in his movie because he can't find anyone willing to. The gangster agrees, on the condition that they do the fight scenes for realsies.

4. My Wife is a Gangster: found it mediocre, can't actually remember much.

5. Friend: One of my favourites: "At a time when students had to fasten their collars and crease their slacks till they're razor sharp, these four friends strutted around in their own custom-fashioned uniforms. They walked the streets with their heads held high, shoulders straight, and chests out, fearing nothing when they were together. Joon-suk, a son of a vigilant gang boss; Dong-su, the only son of an undertaker; Sang-taek, a diligent student; Joong-ho, who never keeps his mouth shut. Those are the gang of friends who share their fantasies about naked woman on the porn magazine and their awe at Bruce Lee's Kungfu. Each of their lives takes different turns as they grow up and their paths cross in conflict with each other's. Joon-suk becomes the leading henchman of his father's crime ring and Dong-su is serving for Joon-suk's rival gangs. Sang-taek and Joong-ho find themselves helplessly watching their two best friends wield knives at each other... "


6. Sunflower: Dude gets out of jail and doesn't want to be involved in crime at all anymore. Everyone (especially local gangsters) is scared shitless of him and thinks he's planning something. Not much action through most of the movie (but it doesn't really suffer for it IMO), and a really good pay off at the end. Really liked it.

7. The Show Must Go On: "Kang In-Goo (Song Kang-Ho) is a mid-level member of a Korean criminal organization. With middle age creeping up on him, Kang In-Goo worries about his family. His wife (Park Ji-Young) is more restless about his job and his daughter (Kim So-Eun) grows more distant everyday. Kang In-Goo plans to quit the mob and buy a large suburban home for his wife. Kang In-Goo needs to do one last big score to retire. Meanwhile, Kang In-Goo's boss (Choi Il-Hwa) favors him over his own son (Yoon Je-Moon), which causes the son to lash out against Kang In-Goo. "

8. City of Violence: if you want an action packed gangster movie, this is one of em. Basically, two guys return to the town they grew up in to raise hell trying to find out who killed their friend.


Oh, and as an aside, I haven't seen Masquerade yet but another good movie set in the past that you might want to check out is The King and the Clown. It's about a group of court jesters who have to keep putting on shows for a crazy king, it's a mix of some comedy and drama.

Gringo Heisenberg fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Jan 21, 2014

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




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Stare-Out posted:

Just rewatched Memories of Murder and yup, still an excellent loving movie. Are there any other movies similar to it out there worth a watch? Primarily talking about quality thrillers/crime procedurals here.

I thought Children was pretty similar.

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Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




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qwako posted:

This is me exactly. Watch Breathless http://instantwatcher.com/titles/195998

I also thought Crying Fist was very good http://instantwatcher.com/titles/190103

Both of these are really, really good and whoever hasn't seen them should. I keep meaning to rewatch Breathless but it's just such a downer.





Some more from epoch's netflix list:
Rough Cut is a gangster/comedy about an rear end in a top hat action star who always hurts his stuntmen. Since he's filming a gangster movie and none of the stuntmen will work with him anymore, he gets the great idea to hire and actual gangster. Gangster agrees to do the fight scenes with him, but only if they do them for realsies. I haven't seen it in a long time but I remember enjoying it.

Musa usually gets good reviews from people, although it's a bit old now so I'm not sure how it holds up. All I remember about it was that it's basically a Dynasty Warriors game but in movie form.

Never seen Woochi cause it looked a bit silly for me, but it got recommended a couple times in the original thread I think.
Been meaning to give Masquerade a watch, again it got good reviews in the thread (and it stars Byung-hun Lee).

Gringo Heisenberg fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Mar 5, 2015

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